NFL Power Rankings Time

by Jimmy on Nov 7, 2007 3:07 PM CST in News Comment 36 comments

It is time to take a look at where the so-called experts think the Titans rank against the other teams of the NFL.

7. Titans

LenDale White this season: 670 yards rushing/receiving, 5 TDs. Former USC teammate Reggie Bush in New Orleans: 711 yards rushing/ receiving, 5 TDs. White was the 45th overall pick in '06; Bush was 2nd. Hey, we're just saying ...

FOXSports.com:

7. Titans

The Titans' defense did it again. Making up for yet another sub-par day from Vince Young, the Tennessee defense kept the Panthers bottled up and flustered all afternoon in Nashville. Albert Haynesworth recorded three sacks, as the Titans recorded a season-high seven sacks in the game. The D held their opponents to 14 or fewer points for the sixth time this season. LenDale White, meanwhile, finished with 100 yards, his third straight game of 100 rushing yards or more. With a suffocating defense and a pounding rushing attack, Tennessee's 6-2 and right in the thick of the AFC playoff picture.

FootballLocks.com:

6. Titans

The Titans improved to four games above .500 thanks to holding the Panthers to under 200 yards of offense. Additionally, Tennessee gained 1 game on the Colts, thanks to New England's come from behind win at Indianapolis. The Titans also moved 1 game ahead of the Jaguars who lost at Tampa Bay.

NFLReport.com:

7. Titans

Three straight victories for the streaking Titans. Vince Young was less than perfect, but the Titan D teed off on Carr and the Panther offense, logging seven sacks, limiting Carolina to one meaningless TD, and dishing out a concussion for Carr.

CBSSportsline:

7. Titans

It's all about the defense with this team. They get after the passer. Jim Schwartz is doing a heck of a job.

NewsDay.com:

7. Titans

LenDale White might be better than Reggie Bush.

NFL.com:

7. Titans

Albert Haynesworth continues to be a one-man wrecking crew.

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7. Titans

No commentary.

The Big Lead:

7. Titans

Combined record of the six teams they have beat: 21-28. Can you say ... FRAUD?

They too will become believers.

This week's average is 6.88.

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Finally

We're ranked above the Jags on all the boards. And it only took 8 weeks, impressive.

I prefer that we stay below the radar though. The Titans play much better when no one respects them.

by TmanInTennessee on Nov 7, 2007 3:51 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

35-38

That is the record of the Patriots opponents. I guess they are frauds too. What a moron.

by SuperHorn on Nov 7, 2007 9:16 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Comment on the quarterback MY thoughts exactly

By John Mcfarland, Associated Press Writer
When Vince Young zipped into the end zone for an easy first-quarter touchdown run, fantasy football players everywhere rejoiced.
Finally, they hoped, Young was on his way to that long-delayed monster game. Instead, he again sputtered to victory last week with the usual feeble numbers: 110 yards passing, two interceptions, no TD throws.

This latest flop should be the last straw for fantasy owners who've been cleverly tucking Young away on the bench. It's time to face the sad reality that this sleeper has nothing, at least this year. He must be cut simply because his roster spot would be better used on free-agent gambles.

Scared to let go of a guy with so much upside? Just check out his downside. Halfway through the season, Young has three TD passes, eight interceptions, a high-schoolish 122 yards passing a game and meager rushing yardage.

In retrospect, even University of Texas fans should have seen it coming. He wasn't very accurate last year and had more interceptions (13) than TDs (12). Plus, the Titans entered the season with the perfect recipe for conservative play: no receivers, a gaggle of running backs and a brutal defense.

Joy Kat

by Joy kat on Nov 7, 2007 9:48 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

But

that's fantasy football. What does it have to do with reality?

Joy Kat, I have this new theory. You're really Dan Snyder, no?

DannoE

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by DannoE on Nov 8, 2007 7:13 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Everyone needs to stop responding to Joy Kat

Ignore his comments, never mention his name, and never read nor reply to his messages.

That's the only way he'll go away. Arguing with him just adds more fuel to the fire.

Oh yeah, and if you have to talk about him, just call him/her it.

The only way to get it away is to ignore it.

by nvemvp23 on Nov 8, 2007 7:19 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

I'm still

waiting for the POS to respond to my diary!

by white02slpss on Nov 8, 2007 7:29 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Giants Opponents Record in wins

13-36.
yes, 13-36.
with wins over the jets, falcons, dolphins, and 49ers. they must be frauds too...pshh thats terrible. i bet 20-28 teh titans have is one of the higher statistics in the league...

by titanbt53 on Nov 7, 2007 10:09 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

the consensus seems to be 7

i'm fine with that....

this sunday is the biggest game of the year so far....gotta get up for it....pretty much a must win!

by zackmann on Nov 8, 2007 12:01 AM CST reply actions 0 recs

The problem with the records thing...

...is that there is A LOT of lousy play out there. There are maybe four complete teams in the NFL, by which I mean decent rush defense, pass defense, rushing attack, and passing attack (I'm purposefully ignoring special teams). They are: Colts, Pats, Steelers, Giants, and maybe the Cowboys, though their secondary is suspect IMHO. Beyond that, there are a few teams that are good but only because they are notably strong in one or two areas: Titans, Jags, Lions, and maybe the Bucs, Saints, and Chiefs.

Pretty much everybody else is actually lousy, with at best one strong area and nothing more than the occasional ability to win games against other very flawed teams. See also: Chargers, Ravens, Browns, Broncos, Panthers, etc.

DannoE

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by DannoE on Nov 8, 2007 7:20 AM CST reply actions 0 recs

Can't really agree...

I agree with part of what you're saying. The Colts, Pats, and Steelers are complete teams playing really consistent football. (I think you're stretching when you add the Giants and the Cowboys)

However, I don't think that makes everyone else lousy. Due to the salary cap and free agency, the teams change every year and it's hard to field a 100% complete team every season. On top of that, the coach has to get the team ready to play every single game.

Last season it was a Colts/Bears Superbowl, but there's no way you could call the Bears a complete team.

I believe that a complete NFL team is rare. This year we happen to have three.

Well... two... I think you left out an important aspect in Coaching. If the Steelers had better coaching (Not a slight to Tomlin, but he's no Tony D.), they wouldn'tve lost those 2 games to beatable teams.

You're right about the Dallas Secondary... there are questions there. However, they are a good team. Any other year and they might be considered a great team, but this year they couldn't hang with the Patriots.

Also, to me a great defense can make up for a lot. The '06 Bears for example...

by theologic on Nov 8, 2007 8:26 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

This goes back to the question...

...of what makes for better football--a handful of truly great teams or a league of parity where anyone can win in any year but truly complete teams are rare. It seems like parity has broken down a little this year.

Anyway, I agree with everything you said. "Lousy" is a comparative, relative term, of course, but I guess I just don't see that much seperation between, say, the Chargers and the Bills and/or the Bills and maybe the Falcons. Once you get into what I've started thinking of as "the band of mediocrity," you're apt to see some strange and often unimpressive play, even out of teams that are ostensibly very good.

Anyway, my actual point was only that if you have a few teams with VERY good records, then you MUST have some teams with VERY BAD records because somebody has to lose all those games. The proof of that, I think, is that this year there are quite a few teams that are basically still in contention--in both conferences--despite having .500 or worse records. Hence, the idea that some team can have a 9-0 or even 6-2 record against teams with a combined winning record is actually statistically unlikely. If multiple teams are gonna go 9-0, 7-1, 6-2, then there also must be a bunch that must do the reverse, and more to the point, the best teams simply can't play each other every week. It's a physical impossibility.

DannoE

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by DannoE on Nov 8, 2007 8:39 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Point

I think that you are right. Parity has broken down a little. There were supposed to be no more Dynasties, but the Patriots and the Colts have dominated the AFC (which has dominated the NFC) for the past few years.

I love this blog for conversations just like this.

by theologic on Nov 8, 2007 8:52 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Heh. Cool.

Maybe you can tell me why you disagree with this statement: The Giants are the most under-rated team in the NFL.

DannoE

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by DannoE on Nov 8, 2007 9:39 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

I disagree!

On most Power Rankings the Giants are ranked above Tennessee even tho we have the same record.

The Giants are on a great 6 game win streak, but over the past 4 games they're beaten:

The Dolpins, 49ers, Falcons, and the Jets. Their only loses are to Dallas and the Redskins, but I would like to see them beat someone good besides the Eagles (who are questionable anyway).

I am not saying they are bad, but that can be inconsistent at times (I question their coaching). Also, the way they're hyping the Cowboys-Giants matchup this week I think it's hard to say they're underrated.

I would say they're ranked exactly where they should be.

by theologic on Nov 8, 2007 11:50 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Look, I am a fan of everyone on the team Except

I am a fan of every man on the team except of Young. I am glad Pacman is gone, I hope he figures it out though and can have success elsewhere, I really do. The article just solidifies what I have been saying. You have to have your head in the sand to not see what is going on.

Joy Kat

by Joy kat on Nov 8, 2007 7:49 AM CST reply actions 0 recs

Not only that, but wouldnt you want a more......

Wouldnt every Titan fan want a more productive quarterback. AKA K.Collins He has shown that he can throw the ball well, and is a good leader. IF you truly are a TITAN fan you would want that for the good of the team. The rest of the team is doing its job. Young is ranked last or second to last in a LOT of areas. That is pathetic given the team around him. He should be in the top 10 at least.

Joy Kat

by Joy kat on Nov 8, 2007 7:54 AM CST reply actions 0 recs

Why is it

that you only focus on the stats? but not what the team says or the coach says.

Fisher just said that Young improves weekly and that is what they want.

Fisher also says that Young does what he wants him to do.

what you also fail to realize is that this is a TEAM and the team wants Young out there.

Would our defense be as good if Collins was out there? Would their mind set be, "are QB is young and is going to make mistakes, so we need to make up for those mistakes"

Also take into account that most Titans fans were excited to be considered for Possible playoff contention (mainly because of young) and going into this Season the Defense wasn't expected to be this good (I knew they would be vastly improved, but not this good) So had the defense been Ranked 32 again and the titans behind in all games, don't you think that would give Young better numbers with the increased chances? I DO.

Look at Youngs #'s on a per game bases. they aren't that bad. This last game he threw 2 INTs, one of which wasn't his fault. So be it. collins will throw INT's too. If you ask me I think Youngs developement is being slowed by the coaching staff trying to protect him to much.

If we are lossing a game by 25 points in the 4th qt then they wouldn't have much to lose and let it fly. But when you are in every game they are calling plays and having Young manage it and not allowing him to go down field.

again look at the game and tell me when the INT's come. it's early in the game.

But yes Young has to play better and each and every week he is!

by white02slpss on Nov 8, 2007 8:58 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

I focus on the stats because they tell a lot

I focus on the stats because they tell most of the story, no they are not everything. I watched a high school football game the other night, my hometown team was in state playoff action. They ended up winning the game, they really should not have, they were beat on both side of the ball. However our team got lucky and caused a couple of key turnovers that led to a victory. Statistically we were beat. I am certain what will happen in the final round of playoffs this Saturday. Our team will probably lose, by a lot. The team we just beat had better stats, and they would challenge the upcoming team more than ours can I am quite sure. I am happy we won, but realistically I know our odds are bad to make it to the Championship and I am alright with that. I feel the team that is the best should get the Championship.
No, stats are not everything, but when it comes down to it, the statistically better team will prevail most of the time. That also means the statistics of individual players mean plenty. Would you rather have Rex Grossman or Brett Favre?

Joy Kat

by Joy kat on Nov 8, 2007 9:42 AM CST reply actions 0 recs

Favre?

Since you love stats so much, you know Favre holds the NFL record for INTs in a career, right?

And he got that this year, at 38, while the guy who had it before him played until he was 48.

So it took him 10 fewer years to throw that many interceptions, and that was a record that had stood for over 30 years.

That's a lot of interceptions, and yet you seem to think he's good...

...so that means that guys who throw INTs can be good! Guys like Vince.

Thanks for agreeing with everyone else here after all.

by hartley on Nov 8, 2007 10:13 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Beleive me I am not extolling the greatness of

I am not proclaiming Favre to be the greatest quarterback at all. He wouldnt make my top 10 list of all time. I am weary of talking about Manning and Brady though. They are the greatest quarterbacks of our time, especially Tom Brady.
Right now the Titans have a choice between Young and Collins. Yes the Titans would sacrifice mobility with Collins in place of Young, but they would gain in passing offense stats with Collins, which I feel is much more important in light of the fact that Young's running ability really hasnt shined this year.
The Titans cannot possibly make it to the Superbowl with Young, the defense and White cannot do it without a decent quarterack. Grossman last year had fantastic numbers in comparison to Young this year. Last year Grossman threw for 23 TDs with 20 picks. So Young's numbers this year 2 Tds to 8 INT look quite sad.
It does help to explain that Grossman wasnt horrible though, even though he didnt look very good. I can think of about 17 active quarterbacks I would rather have than Grossman.
Yes I like statistics, they generally tell most of the story. Like I said earlier, they dont account for everything, but who would you say is going to go to the Superbowl? Probably the Colts or the Patriots. Why? Because statistically they are leading in many categories.

Joy Kat

by Joy kat on Nov 8, 2007 1:12 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

what?!?!??!?!

favre not on your top 10 of all time. wow.
do you even know the name of this sport?

by titanbt53 on Nov 9, 2007 12:53 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Brett Favre also holds the most TDs thrown

You forgot to mention (conveniently) that he holds the record for the most Touchdowns thrown.
Also his numbers look way better than Youngs for passing in his first two years.
Anyhow, Favre is not my top guy, I would take him in a heartbeat over Young though. No question.

Joy Kat

by Joy kat on Nov 8, 2007 1:23 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Where the heck do you live

that ya'll are already in the final round of the playoffs??

Tennessee hasn't started yet!

Go Titans!

by gramsey712 on Nov 8, 2007 10:25 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Not in Tennessee

Joy Kat

by Joy kat on Nov 8, 2007 1:24 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Then

explain the stats in my dairy to you please!!! stop avoiding it!

Statistically Vince Young appears to be on the same path that John Elway was!

So guess what? according to you we have a whole hell of a lot to look forward to.

by white02slpss on Nov 8, 2007 11:15 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

I did reply to you I sent you an email

I sent an email because I did not notice the question until days later. Check your email, I sent it on Nov 6th.
Anyway I cut and pasted what I wrote.
...............

I honestly did not notice it until today. Of
course someone answered John Elway.Those are interesting numbers on him.
There are other factors that come in to play, how good was his offensive line in those years? It must have been ok since they made it to the playoffs. As I am certain you seen, Elway's numbers improved the second year, they did not decline (unlike Young) and they improved in the third year.
His TD to interception ratio is far better than Young's as well.
Would have I been concerned with Elway after year one? Yes, I would have a little, not enough to let him go though. Young should be improving this year not going the other way. The overall Titan team is better than last years. The offensive line is sound and the defense is first in the league. That should be fertile ground for a 2nd year quarterback to showcase his abilities and he just isnt doing that.
Thanks for the question and I will try to notice it next time.
Joy Kat

So, yes I did respond to you.

Joy Kat

by Joy kat on Nov 8, 2007 12:35 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

I'll have to

check me email again!

What you fail to see is that because the Defense and running game are performing so good that it's making Young look worse in the Stat column.

Have we had the 32nd rank defense again and terrible running game then Young wouldn't look so bad. He'd just be a struggling young QB on a young team that isn't that good. But the team would also not have much to lose by letting Young go.

Kind of what they did last year when he took over the team.

But this year it's more about learning the management of the game. If young masters the management of the game early then he has the tools to excell beyond most peoples expectations.

by white02slpss on Nov 8, 2007 1:12 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

That really doesnt make sense

What you just said doesnt make any sense. If the overall team is performing well, almost always the quarterback is doing well. Not only that but generally when a team performs well it is because of the quarterback, not the other way around.
The Titans have an atmosphere a quarterback dreams of, having a great defense that can hold other teams nearly scoreless and an offensive line that gives him plenty of time to throw or run or make decisions. That is the stuff dreams are made of and yet he (YOung) is not making the most of it. Almost any decent throwing quarterback would have had 8 TDs this season by now. I think that is a conservative estimate.

Joy Kat

by Joy kat on Nov 8, 2007 2:04 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Ok

Ok! You are Right and the rest of us are wrong! Include Mr. Adams, Coach Fisher, and Coach Chow. Along with Young's National Championship Longhorns and Mack Brown and all the Coordinators he scheme to protect against Vince Young!

This also includes the Fans that actually witnessed what Vince Young can do, but don't post on this site!

You should probably be the next Commish of the NFL, or at least a GM!

I'll let Vince Youngs and the win's speak from here on out!

Have a Good day.

by white02slpss on Nov 8, 2007 2:34 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Vince Young has spoken for himself

He speaks for himself a lot, usually to brag about how great he is. The fact is, he is not backing up is comments. This is not college anymore. It doesnt come easy in the NFL like he expects it to. Why else would he say that he will be in the NFL hall of Fame someday? Do you hear Brady making those statements when he actually proved that he will be in the Hall of Fame. No, because he is not full of himself like Young. Make no mistake about it, I do not like Vince Young. He has a big mouth and a huge ego and it just gets in his way. It will hurt the team as well, he had a shirt on that said "I am a quarterback" recently. Apparantly that was a statement to profess his passing skills. Well then, why did he choose to throw when he could have run it in for an easy score the last game. He probably wanted to prove to everyone that he can throw well. It didnt work out. It is his ego costing the Titans. Do you get it???

Joy Kat

by Joy kat on Nov 8, 2007 2:53 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

The Titans franchise has invested a lot of dollars

The Titan franchise has invested a lot of money into Young, he is the face of the Titans and is a marketing dream currently. However if his individual performance continues to sputter like it has so far that will change. Fisher will not allow a mediocre quarterback to be at helm when someone better is waiting in the wings. Fisher is a smart guy, and he has a job to protect and a boss to keep happy. He has to stick with Young right now because they are winning. IF you think the wins are because of Young that is absolutely absurd. Read Jimmy's comments about how the defense has come up big week after week. It is no secret that Young has a very poor year going and if you expect that to magically turn around, you just go ahead and think that. I am certain it wont. BRING BACK COLLINS!!!!

Joy Kat

by Joy kat on Nov 8, 2007 3:08 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

:-o

<yawn>

by white02slpss on Nov 8, 2007 3:36 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

GO AWAY JOY GO AWAY

SERIOUSLY.

NO ONE would miss you.

by TitansFanatic on Nov 8, 2007 7:45 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Collins is the answer NOT YOUNG

Joy Kat

by Joy kat on Nov 8, 2007 7:58 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

vince

we gotta remember, this team is extremely lacking in pass catchers. i read an article on si.com the other week describing our wide reciever core as worst in the league, and im not gonna argue that. it's hard to get good stats when your receivers are never open. i mean, vince can't throw it THROUGH the chest of opposing players. he's not THAT superhuman haha...

by titanbt53 on Nov 9, 2007 12:57 AM CST reply actions 0 recs

That...

...is a fact. The Titans WRs get NO seperation, frequently run confused routes (note: that second interception, in which two receivers ran to the same spot... Doh!), and drop what passes still somehow hit them in the chest. To say that this group has underperformed is an understatement. I mean, seriously, Bo Scaife is probably the best receiver on the team, and he's not even a receiver. Argh.

That no seperation thing is what's killing the passing game. Every time you look, the CB is climbing all over the receiver. It's just sad. And that's why the only passes that get completed are the short ones that hook. Everything else has been blanketed.

DannoE

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Thanks!

by DannoE on Nov 9, 2007 6:57 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs