Peyton Manning Won't Be A Titan.
by D. Reese on Feb 8, 2012 2:55 PM CST
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PrintNo, there aren't any reports that have quoted someone with knowledge of the situation as saying that the Titans will not try to bring Manning in, but when you consider a number of factors, it's pretty much a no brainer.
1. Tennessee already has a viable veteran option under contract. Matt Hasselbeck was brought in for basically two reasons. First, the front office thought he could win some games, and he did. 2011's nine-win campaign was a pleasant surprise in a season that many, including myself, had written off as a lost year. Second, and probably most importantly, the front office also thought that he would be an ideal guy to learn from for their shiniest new investment, Jake Locker. I really don't know how much of Locker's astounding growth can be attributed to Hasselbeck, but at this point in his career, even the slightest edge could mean the difference between rousing success and total disaster.
Another important and somewhat unique aspect of Hasselbeck's tenure here is that he expressed not just a begrudging affirmative that he would step down when the time came for Locker to take over, he actually seemed very willing, and in a weird sort of way, excited to do so. It seems as though Hasselbeck recognizes that his best days as a player may be behind him, but that he has a lot to offer as a player/coach. In short, he relishes the mentor role. I think another interesting part of this is that while Hasselbeck and Locker are two completely different players in terms of skill sets, that may end up being more beneficial for the young field general. Ideally, Hasselbeck will help him learn different skills to make Locker a more well-rounded player.
2. We don't even really know if he's going to play or not. Of course, this should change pretty quickly, I don't expect the Titans to sign a guy they know won't play again. But all of this talk about whether or not he'll even be physically cleared should raise a ton of red flags. He was seriously hurt and is at a large risk of staying that way. As he gets older, that's only going to become more apparent.
3. There are approximately 20 players who need new contracts, some of those, like Cortland Finnegan, are very important to the teams' success going forward. This is finally a year that the team has a chance to keep a good part of its' core together and has the rare luxury of being able to pursue a couple of really good free agents. While I think that extending Finnegan should be priority number one this year, that doesn't seem to be a view that the front office shares, so I now advocate looking at the list of free agents and finding long-term solutions. As a team on the rise, it would be extremely counterproductive to sign a player who is both costly and old. Manning will not be the quarterback of the next Titans' Super Bowl winning team, it doesn't make sense to throw buckets of money at him. Instead, throw Bud's money at Robert Meachem, Carl Nicks, or Mario Williams, go nuts and sign a difference maker at a premium position.
4. Jake Locker's time is now. With strong indications coming from up top that Locker will be given the shot during an open camp competition, it's becoming more and more clear that it's almost time to set phase two into gear. It's clear to me that he was the most talented quarterback on the roster, but give the Titans credit for not throwing him out there too soon to be mauled without his best weapons a la Blaine Gabbert.
There are plenty of reasons to not bring Peyton Manning to play here without having to resort to simply "He played for my least favorite team!" Manning was a great player, maybe he even still is, but with his healthy in doubt and skills likely beginning to deteriorate, he doesn't play a part in building a team focused on the future.
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But we'll never win another game without PeyPey!!
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D. Reese. You cant be serious can you???? Equating Hassleback with a healthy Manning is crazy talk.
Hass is a viable veteran but a healthy Manning would be a game changer…instead of being 9-7, we would be easily 11-4… I dont get it. If Manning is healthy why the hell would we not want him? I like my teams to win.
"I wear a tinted visor not to trick other players, but so hot girls in stands don't see me looking at them" - Alex Ovechkin - May 2, 2009
sorry meant with manning we couldve been 12-4
"I wear a tinted visor not to trick other players, but so hot girls in stands don't see me looking at them" - Alex Ovechkin - May 2, 2009
for me at least, it’s not really about 2012’s finished product, I’m not expecting this team to peak for another couple of years. basically if it doesn’t help 2013 (Jake Locker) get better and it’s part of the offense, I don’t really care for it all that much.
we're gonna skate to one song and one song only.
Agreed on all counts.
Honestly, the people who think he will be the difference for the Titans are blind Manning loyalists or UT fans who just want him to be back in-state.
I also think you nailed it mentioning the “mentor” aspect of Hasselbeck. I’m sure as a competitive guy it’ll be tough for him if he loses out, but he also seems to understand that that comes with the territory when you’re at his stage and not necessarily an all-timer like a Brady or Manning. If Locker had looked more like Gabbert in his playing stints, I might be a little more open to bringing in a Manning and keeping Locker on the bench, but we saw enough flashes of promise from Locker this year to warrant not keeping him benched in favor of what could be a very injury-prone guy who is only a shell of his former self…if he even plays again.
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Actually Webster said yesterday:
“Obviously [Manning] is a great player in the league,” Tennessee general manager Ruston Webster told season-ticket holders in a conference call, as reported by John Glennon of The Tennessean. “But on the flip side of that, we’re excited about our quarterback situation.”
Pretty much tells me there isn’t a chance in hell.
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by StPrattrick on Feb 8, 2012 3:09 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
This is another non-story that's getting too much hype simply because it's Pey-Pey and the state of Tennessee happens to have a NFL team.
He’s got as much a chance of coming here as I do of getting signed to be the new FS.
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by ronburgundy7427 on Feb 8, 2012 3:12 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
.... does that mean the MCM jet is finally coming to pick me up?!
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It's probably still frozen-over in Canada...blame Winny.
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by ronburgundy7427 on Feb 8, 2012 3:19 PM CST up reply actions
Sorry man.
We’re still paying on those luxury interiors. Two years ago, they were all the rage, so we felt good about paying a premium. Turns out that while they do look nice, they are completely dysfunctional. As luck would have it, when the manufacturer started up the company 4 years ago, he worked hard to put out a quality product. Once the demand got pent up, he gouged us and no longer produced a legitimate product.
I digress a bit. We neglected the basics, and now all we’re left with is a huge bill for these (sexy) non-functional seating. At least they amortized over 5+ years, though, right? As a result of all this, we still cannot afford jet fuel.
by SuperHorn on Feb 8, 2012 3:34 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
Or wings
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by TitanNDCClothing on Feb 8, 2012 5:04 PM CST up reply actions
GD JET FUEL!!!!!!!????!!!!!1
(luck… i see what you did there mwhaha)
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Oh, well played.
At least, I think I get it.
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by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Feb 8, 2012 6:08 PM CST up reply actions
Yea if you go off
anything somebody tells you
"you kiddin me? PRACTICE? I just hope we can win a game!"
by AirMohawk on Feb 8, 2012 4:05 PM CST via Android app up reply actions
"Somebody" happens to be the GM of the team.
There is a better chance of Eddie George returning to this team than Manning coming. You can dream all you want but it’s not happening and would not be in the best interests of this team.
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by ronburgundy7427 on Feb 8, 2012 4:07 PM CST up reply actions 3 recs
THE GM IS JUST A SOMEBODY
DON’T COUNT OUT PEYPEY TO TITANS JUST YET BRO WE NEED THE SEATS TO BE FILLED BECAUSE WE’RE ALL LAZY
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Jake Locker > Peyton Manning
by fanoftheunderdogs on Feb 8, 2012 4:18 PM CST up reply actions
Shzeea
"you kiddin me? PRACTICE? I just hope we can win a game!"
by AirMohawk on Feb 8, 2012 5:26 PM CST via Android app up reply actions
.. Shzeea?
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Jake Locker > Peyton Manning
by fanoftheunderdogs on Feb 8, 2012 6:13 PM CST up reply actions
Whats really good with those cheezy ass pictures
What are you 12? You obviously never heard of MC eiht
"you kiddin me? PRACTICE? I just hope we can win a game!"
by AirMohawk on Feb 8, 2012 6:36 PM CST via Android app up reply actions
Yes, I'm clearly 12 years old because I post pictures and I've never heard of a rapper.
Or maybe I’m just not into rap and you’re a walking stereotype.
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by fanoftheunderdogs on Feb 8, 2012 10:08 PM CST up reply actions
Since we talkin sterotypes distinguish the difference between "rap" and hip hop
Because they are NOT the same
"you kiddin me? PRACTICE? I just hope we can win a game!"
by AirMohawk on Feb 8, 2012 10:23 PM CST via Android app up reply actions
Aaron Tyler (born on May 22, 1967 in Compton, California), better known by his stage name MC Eiht, is an American rapper.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MC_Eiht
Fail.
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by fanoftheunderdogs on Feb 8, 2012 10:27 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I bet you’re the guy who makes all of their American friends call soccer “football”.
we're gonna skate to one song and one song only.
by D. Reese on Feb 8, 2012 10:28 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
You know MC 8, remember Grand Treft Auto:San Andreas.
CJ.
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By the way you can't call something cheesy and say "What are you 12?" in the same post.
Pot, meet kettle.
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by fanoftheunderdogs on Feb 8, 2012 10:12 PM CST up reply actions
Yes Please.
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God please
it would easily be the biggest move the Titans have ever made
For the Jake of argument ...
by BythePowerofMunchak! on Feb 8, 2012 5:02 PM CST up reply actions
You intentionally misunderstood him right?
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by fanoftheunderdogs on Feb 8, 2012 10:14 PM CST up reply actions
Sarcasm font isn't helpful anyway.
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by fanoftheunderdogs on Feb 8, 2012 10:17 PM CST up reply actions
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by Titans_Firefighter on Feb 8, 2012 8:03 PM CST up reply actions
Luvs me some Mario,
but if the Titans offer a mint they can have him.
He’s great when he’s healthy (ask Rapelisberger), but that’s damned seldom.
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but but but it's not a Titans offseason unless there's a QB controversy!
comehomepeyton!
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by nolesbroncos3456 on Feb 8, 2012 3:41 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
Guy in front of picture
“He.. He really that he was going to be a titan? HAHAHA!! For REAL?! Hahahaha!!!”
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Why are we still talking about this?
its stupid to bring Manning in when no one even knows if he is going to be the same player anymore and we have locker
This isn't a serious debate, surely?
Even the people who would like to see Peyton in Tennessee because of our Volunteer loyalty (me) never actually thought it had a snowball’s chance in hell of happening. The few people who did are probably the same folks who think the moonlanding is fake.
Next up, an article about how we’re definitely not going to colonize Mars within the next few weeks.
"Do the Titans have a miracle left in them in what has been a magical season to this point? If they do, they need it now. Christie kicks it high and short. Gonna be fielded by Lorenzo Neal at the 25; he dishes it back to Wycheck; he throws it across the field to Dyson. 30, 40, 50, 40, 30, 20, 10, 5, endzone...touchdown, Titans! There are no flags on the field! It's a miracle! Tennessee has pulled a miracle! A miracle for the Titans!"
by TennesseeTyrants on Feb 8, 2012 4:26 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
The few people who did are probably the same folks who think the moonlanding is fake.
lol’d
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by fanoftheunderdogs on Feb 8, 2012 4:27 PM CST up reply actions
Area 51'd
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It's an article to incite debates and heated arguments, which equals page hitz!!!!11
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by ronburgundy7427 on Feb 8, 2012 4:33 PM CST up reply actions
It's a Master-Serious-Debate
… and don’t call me Shirley.
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No shit
I’ve been reading this for over a week now.
For the Jake of argument ...
by BythePowerofMunchak! on Feb 8, 2012 5:03 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
And also, "come home peyton" makes no sense.
He was born & raised in Louisiana, and he’s lived in Indy for 3 times longer than he was in Tennessee.
He went to college here, that doesn’t make it “home.”
by hartley on Feb 8, 2012 5:18 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
he is married to a girl from tennessee ans has an offseason home here from last i heard...
…so TN is just as home as those other places.
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by Deaconbrodie on Feb 8, 2012 5:29 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
...
Lousiana: Born in, raised in. Home.
Indianapolis: Made his career, made his millions of dollars, spent a ton of time there, sports icon… Home.
Tennessee: Has an off-season house here and is married to a girl who was born here… uh… home?
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by fanoftheunderdogs on Feb 8, 2012 6:11 PM CST up reply actions
Uh yes.... what do you think house means?? It means a place you make home.
And his wife was more than born here…born and raised and has family in East Tennessee.
Just curious, Are you from Tennessee?
"I wear a tinted visor not to trick other players, but so hot girls in stands don't see me looking at them" - Alex Ovechkin - May 2, 2009
Does he have a house in Nashville/Davidson Co/Williamson Co?
Then bringing him to the Titans won’t bring him “home”
Knoxville is about 4 hours east of here. He can go back there for all I care, but saying he should come back to Nashville where hes from is bullshit.
by asian phil on Feb 8, 2012 7:35 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Asian Phil... I was only pointing out that Manning does have strong ties to TN.
What he calls home … I dont care about.. what I care about is WINNING.
A reworked contract based off play and a healthy Manning would mean we WIN.
Why wouldnt any Titans fan be on board for that? With Manning this year we wouldve easily had 11-12 wins. Manning has said he’s willing to be paid based off performance. Why wouldnt any and every team in the NFL jump on that.
We would have 2-3 years of great teams rather than putting our hope in a young QB. Who by the way would be learning from one the greats.
"I wear a tinted visor not to trick other players, but so hot girls in stands don't see me looking at them" - Alex Ovechkin - May 2, 2009
And thats fine.
I’m not saying Manning isn’t a good QB and that he wouldn’t “better” the team (debatable).
I just take issue of bringing Manning “home” when he played college football in Knoxville for 4 years some 15 years ago. Part of this also just stems from people that cheer for Peyton only. As a Titan fan, I just hate that.
DReese laid it out pretty well as to why Peyton probably won’t be coming here. Really I can’t be objective because I hate the guy for his reign of terror for the damn Colts.
That's understandable. I would hate having Tom Brady here...cause I loathe him.
That being said, I would take one for the team if the exact same scenario was set up except it was Brady instead of Manning. And I do believe if Manning is healthy whoever gets him will be the better for it. And in the end..thats what I want for the Titans.
The home thing….its not my main thing…but he does have a huge following in TN because he was a Vol. I understand that too. Since I am a Vol fan.
"I wear a tinted visor not to trick other players, but so hot girls in stands don't see me looking at them" - Alex Ovechkin - May 2, 2009
With Manning this year, we go 9-7
he didn’t play…
Am I the only one who misses Lendale White...the good version?
Thats why its a hypothetical.
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You are not gonna win against these people
Manning considers Tennessee home. He spends most of his off time back and forth between Chattanooga and Knoxville.
Those who hate him are gonna argue with you until they are blue in the face. They don’t want to hear the facts.
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by fanoftheunderdogs on Feb 9, 2012 11:35 AM CST up reply actions
Good.... another bonafide Titans & Vols fan. Again, glad to hear I am not alone.
"I wear a tinted visor not to trick other players, but so hot girls in stands don't see me looking at them" - Alex Ovechkin - May 2, 2009
Whaaaat! You know people Nashville dont like Peyton Manning!!!!!
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Lets be realistic
The Titans are going to to look for diamonds in the rough in this free agency as they always have. Ever since they got screwed by salary cap woes during the Reese era all they do is sign second tier free agents and build through the draft. Would be all love Mario Williams and Colston? Absolutely! However we probably won’t open up the checkbook. Look for another offseason like when we signed Hope, Mawae and Givens.
We arent interested in a legendary 3 time MVP QB??
I’m puzzled by new GM Webster and think him quite foolish not to even consider adding a guy who could propel us deep into the playoffs.
The fact that Manning is willing to rework his contract to be benchmark oriented is a HUGE incentive for any GM with half a brain.
Losing money wouldn’t be an issue if he’s not healthy and not producing….But if he is… Imagine Manning working with Brittle, Washington and Cook…. And the run game would part like the Red sea for CJ.
Plus, who beats and knows our division rivals more than Manning…not only does Manning know how to beat the Texans, Jags but he’d know how to beat the Colts. Manning if healthy could catapult our team!
It’s very foolish not to consider signing him.
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by Deaconbrodie on Feb 8, 2012 5:46 PM CST via mobile reply actions
"But he'd know how to beat the Colts."
This is almost like the guy on Stampede Blue last year who said them signing Collins was great cause he knew the Titans playbook. Colts have an entirely new coaching staff and are going to have a different playbook, ton of new personnel and different philosophies. No guarantee that that will be the same Colts Manning was with.
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by ronburgundy7427 on Feb 8, 2012 5:51 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
so your only nit picking on one point I made?
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by Deaconbrodie on Feb 8, 2012 7:05 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I can nitpick the rest too if you'd like...
D. Reese already beat me to the Favre punch with the 3-time MVP.
a guy who could propel us deep into the playoffs. /blockquote>
This is speculation, there is no guarantee that he could do that. How many Super Bowls has he won again? (not that that is the be-all, end-all, but if you want a deep playoff run you’re just as well off with Mark Sanchez based on recent history).
The fact that Manning is willing to rework his contract to be benchmark oriented is a HUGE incentive for any GM with half a brain. /blockquote>
Do you have a source for this? With Manning, it is all relative. He’s not going to take an entirely incentive-based contract, there’s going to be a fair amount of guaranteed money in there. And as D. Reese mentions in his article, we’ve got plenty of areas of need on this team, for once, QB is not one of them.
Manning is a big, big risk at this point and frankly, one not worth taking for this team.
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by ronburgundy7427 on Feb 8, 2012 7:33 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Dammit...blockquote fail.
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by ronburgundy7427 on Feb 8, 2012 7:33 PM CST up reply actions
I was still able to read it. lol. Manning himself said he would take an incentive based salary.
I would say any GM in the league…short of top 10 QB teams….should look long and hard at Mannings offer.
No one else in this thread was making my point but to simply sweep Manning under the rug without a thought is kinda silly in my opinion.
I want to WIN….and with a healthy Manning we would win. And comparing Manning to Sanchez is crazy talk! Sanchez is borderline a bust…Manning is a HOF… Sanchez was not the reason Jets made playoffs… Manning has shown what he’s worth to his team.
"I wear a tinted visor not to trick other players, but so hot girls in stands don't see me looking at them" - Alex Ovechkin - May 2, 2009
But dood! Jake locker is a top 10 qb!
So is hasselbeck! So we got no qb problems to even worry about! If we draft a receiver early and a guard or center later, we could legit have a top 5 offense next season. Ima put up a fanpost sometime soon detailing all my genius thoughts about our offense next year.
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by Chris Colgan on Feb 8, 2012 10:52 PM CST via Android app up reply actions
look forward to it
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by Deaconbrodie on Feb 8, 2012 11:01 PM CST up reply actions
a legendary 3 time MVP QB??
we're gonna skate to one song and one song only.
by D. Reese on Feb 8, 2012 5:55 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Ooops. Did I say 3.... I meant 4 time MVP for P. Manning. Most ever.
"I wear a tinted visor not to trick other players, but so hot girls in stands don't see me looking at them" - Alex Ovechkin - May 2, 2009
I was gonna correct that but I felt like this made a better point. in any case, the point is I think Kurt Warner won a couple of MVPs once, I don’t want him on my team either. know why? he’s old and doesn’t help the 2013-2016 Titans get better.
we're gonna skate to one song and one song only.
Yeah...Kurt Warner is older and retired. Manning is only 36 with a few good years left...if healthy.
I guess we can just agree to disagree huh.
So how’d ya feel about Cundiff being wide left??? You know both of us living in MD and all.
"I wear a tinted visor not to trick other players, but so hot girls in stands don't see me looking at them" - Alex Ovechkin - May 2, 2009
point is: neither help the team get better in the future.
I didn’t really know who I was rooting for in that game, then he missed, I knew I wanted the Ravens to lose. one of my favorite plays in awhile. you?
we're gonna skate to one song and one song only.
Well...I was rooting for the Ravens to win...I hate the Pats more...but then I wanted the Ravens to lose in Superbowl
That being said…I did feel bad for all my Maryland friends.
My favorite play lately was seeing Brady on the ground with his head hunched over…. Now people the Tebow and are now doing the “Brady Hunch”
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by Deaconbrodie on Feb 8, 2012 8:28 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
Wish there was an edit button...meant to say: people have STOPPED doing the Tebow are now doing the Brady Hunch.
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Non-story, honestly.
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by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Feb 8, 2012 6:10 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
Not really. For you guys who like the Titans and not from Tennessee you don't understand the Love MOST TN Titans fans have for Manning and his days at UT. Its not a non-story.
If it was a non-story this article wouldnt be posted and the media wouldnt be writing about it and TN Vols and TN Titans fans wouldnt mind having Manning back for his last couple years…and not just for our love for him but because he if healthy he would be a STUD and our Team would be incredibly upgraded for the next 2-3 years as he finished out his career.
"I wear a tinted visor not to trick other players, but so hot girls in stands don't see me looking at them" - Alex Ovechkin - May 2, 2009
I like the Titans and am from Tennessee...
I don’t want Manning.
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by ronburgundy7427 on Feb 8, 2012 7:34 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
lol....but I didnt hear you say you bleed orange too??!?
"I wear a tinted visor not to trick other players, but so hot girls in stands don't see me looking at them" - Alex Ovechkin - May 2, 2009
Cause I don't...
That’s probably grounds for me being banned from the state, but I grew up in the Nashville area and none of my family went to UT so I really had no allegiances. The first time I got interested in a football game was when I happened to see the last twenty seconds of this playoff game the Titans were in where they had a miracle finish…pretty hard to not become a diehard Titans fan after that. My dad also was a pro guy first and foremost, so college ball just never had priority in our house.
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by ronburgundy7427 on Feb 8, 2012 7:59 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
this is refreshing
as someone with no UT ties either, I never understood it.
no longer forever alone in being meh on the Vols
by asian phil on Feb 8, 2012 8:02 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Actually I feel like I am the loner in this thread...maybe in all of MCM??
I am born and bred in TN…LOVE with all my heart the VOLS and TITANS. : )
BUT for me I was always a Vols Fan first…because Tennessee did not have a NFL team. That being said, I am definitely a bigger Titans fan now.
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Pretty much how I am with ASU
raised in Arizona and I absolutely loath ASU – except for the women.
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I have a niece that said I wanted to go to ASU
I died a little inside.
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I don't know.
I’m a die hard Vols fan AND a die hard Titans fan, and I can only assume you are, too, but we truly in the minority.
There is some serious hate for a lot of Titans fans towards the Vols that I don’t really get (unless it truly stems from Peyton).
"Do the Titans have a miracle left in them in what has been a magical season to this point? If they do, they need it now. Christie kicks it high and short. Gonna be fielded by Lorenzo Neal at the 25; he dishes it back to Wycheck; he throws it across the field to Dyson. 30, 40, 50, 40, 30, 20, 10, 5, endzone...touchdown, Titans! There are no flags on the field! It's a miracle! Tennessee has pulled a miracle! A miracle for the Titans!"
by TennesseeTyrants on Feb 8, 2012 8:22 PM CST up reply actions
But anyway...
My point was, most Titans fans don’t love Peyton. All Vols fans love Peyton, but those two alliances rarely completely overlap.
"Do the Titans have a miracle left in them in what has been a magical season to this point? If they do, they need it now. Christie kicks it high and short. Gonna be fielded by Lorenzo Neal at the 25; he dishes it back to Wycheck; he throws it across the field to Dyson. 30, 40, 50, 40, 30, 20, 10, 5, endzone...touchdown, Titans! There are no flags on the field! It's a miracle! Tennessee has pulled a miracle! A miracle for the Titans!"
by TennesseeTyrants on Feb 8, 2012 8:23 PM CST up reply actions
Tennessee Tyrants - My buddy, my friend! I love it. Titans and Vols fan.... so I am not alone at MCM.
To be honest…. I’ve never understood why MCM’rs werent BOTH Vols and Titans fans. Then I just assumed a lot of folks were Titans fans from out of the state.
That being said…this situation on MCM may be the anomaly because I believe most Tennesseans who love football (College & NFL) are both Vols and Titans fans. It would be illogical for that not to be true.
This would be true for any state who has an NFL team and a college team. I am pretty darn sure Falcons fans are Bulldog fans and vice versa. Cowboys fans root for Texas college teams….and so on and so on.
So…Tennessee Tyrants…I believe we are in the majority but not necessarily on MCM.
"I wear a tinted visor not to trick other players, but so hot girls in stands don't see me looking at them" - Alex Ovechkin - May 2, 2009
I still don't think we are in the majority.
Not for the long-term football fans. And a lot of it has to do with the timing of the whole thing.
Peyton graduated in 1997, about the same time that the Titans(Oilers) moved to Tennessee. There was a decision to be made—follow that so-so NFL team that plays in Memphis, or follow Peyton Manning (a proverbial demigod to Vols fans) to the Colts. It might have split 50-50. I think 1999 gained the Titans a lot of Vol fan following.
There are also other factors. The big time Vols fans who followed the NFL prior to the late 90s probably already had a favorite NFL team. The area college football fans in states like Mississippi, Kentucky, Alabama (or perhaps Tennesseans who just happened to root for those colleges) who didn’t have an NFL “home team” could latch onto the Titans.
Either way, the end result is that the fan bases are actually quite different. Don’t get me wrong, there’s a lot of overlap, but now having lived in Knoxville and having been around Nashville quite a bit, it’s hard to say that the majority of Titans fans love the Vols or vice versa.
But yes, I do think it’s WAY more pronounced on MCM than it is in the actual state of Tennessee among the common fan.
"Do the Titans have a miracle left in them in what has been a magical season to this point? If they do, they need it now. Christie kicks it high and short. Gonna be fielded by Lorenzo Neal at the 25; he dishes it back to Wycheck; he throws it across the field to Dyson. 30, 40, 50, 40, 30, 20, 10, 5, endzone...touchdown, Titans! There are no flags on the field! It's a miracle! Tennessee has pulled a miracle! A miracle for the Titans!"
by TennesseeTyrants on Feb 8, 2012 8:46 PM CST up reply actions
Okay so it may be more convoluted.....but as you concluded....in the State of TN there are more Titans AND Vols fans than at MCM.
I grew up in Chattanooga Tennessee where everyone was Braves and Falcons fans but I felt more allegiance to my state and never followed the Atalanta teams.
I was a die hard Vols fan growing up and didnt really have a favorite NFL team till the Titans came to town.
"I wear a tinted visor not to trick other players, but so hot girls in stands don't see me looking at them" - Alex Ovechkin - May 2, 2009
Being both a Titans and Vols fan also has to do with what part of TN your from....
….I would say it is a large majority of east TN folks who are both. Central less and western TN even less. I know a lot of Memphis folks who are love the Tigers and hate the Vols…its a lot more split there.
"I wear a tinted visor not to trick other players, but so hot girls in stands don't see me looking at them" - Alex Ovechkin - May 2, 2009
"I would say it is a large majority of east TN folks who are both"
Not even close. East Tennessee is Vols country. I see as many Colts jerseys in Knoxville as I see Titans jerseys. Probably more, actually.
I grew up in West TN. Plenty of Vols/Titans fans, there. In Nashville, it’s all about the Titans, and therefore, less about the Vols. Lots of Vandy fans, etc.
"Do the Titans have a miracle left in them in what has been a magical season to this point? If they do, they need it now. Christie kicks it high and short. Gonna be fielded by Lorenzo Neal at the 25; he dishes it back to Wycheck; he throws it across the field to Dyson. 30, 40, 50, 40, 30, 20, 10, 5, endzone...touchdown, Titans! There are no flags on the field! It's a miracle! Tennessee has pulled a miracle! A miracle for the Titans!"
by TennesseeTyrants on Feb 8, 2012 10:00 PM CST up reply actions
Huge Vols following here still.
It’s pretty much Titans/Vols most the time around here. James Franklin has changed that a bit with Vandy this year, but for the most part sports radio here is dominated by “FIRE CHRIS PALMER!!!!111” and “BRING BACK FULMER!!!111”
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by ronburgundy7427 on Feb 8, 2012 10:02 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah, that's true.
I just think it decreases a bit as you get further away from East Tennessee, and understandably so.
That said, I think I have a slightly off perception of Nashville just because I’m around the Vandy crowd a little too much for my liking. Haha.
"Do the Titans have a miracle left in them in what has been a magical season to this point? If they do, they need it now. Christie kicks it high and short. Gonna be fielded by Lorenzo Neal at the 25; he dishes it back to Wycheck; he throws it across the field to Dyson. 30, 40, 50, 40, 30, 20, 10, 5, endzone...touchdown, Titans! There are no flags on the field! It's a miracle! Tennessee has pulled a miracle! A miracle for the Titans!"
by TennesseeTyrants on Feb 8, 2012 10:14 PM CST up reply actions
Here's how I feel.... I am a Manning supporter...but not a Colts fan. Does that make sense?
I could pull a Fisher and wear a Manning jersey cuz I like the guy, but I am in no way gonna support the Colts. Some of the same sentiment is probably going on in Knoxville…but also I am sure there are legit Colts fans there too…like you said, with the timing…Manning was here before the Titans arrived in TN.
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by Deaconbrodie on Feb 8, 2012 10:31 PM CST up reply actions
It does make sense because Manning was a Vol first.
But considering the torture Manning has inflicted on our team and us as fans when we’ve seen him throwing the ball all over our two-toned blue defenders… All of that is much more recent and happened for much longer than Manning’s tenure at UT did, so that’s why most Titans fans don’t want him here.
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by fanoftheunderdogs on Feb 8, 2012 10:35 PM CST up reply actions
This argument is going in circles...
…some Titans fans hate him, division rivals and all.
…some Titans fans like him and respect him still.
Both have good reasons for both opinions and feelings.
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by Deaconbrodie on Feb 8, 2012 10:39 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Yeah, you have the grams on your side!
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by fanoftheunderdogs on Feb 9, 2012 11:49 AM CST up reply actions
And thats good to know! So in this entire thread there are 3 of us! lol.
"I wear a tinted visor not to trick other players, but so hot girls in stands don't see me looking at them" - Alex Ovechkin - May 2, 2009
I believe most Tennesseans who love football (College & NFL) are both Vols and Titans fans. It would be illogical for that not to be true.
Uh, well.. there’s this place called Vanderbilt… and there’s some people that are living in west TN that aren’t Vols fans but are Titans fans… and there’s people that are basically indifferent about the Vols but love the Titans… and then there’s the people outside TN that just love the Titans and not the Vols.
So actually, it’s not illogical for that not to be true. There’s plenty of logical reasons that it wouldn’t be.
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by fanoftheunderdogs on Feb 9, 2012 11:57 AM CST up reply actions
That is why I said "Most" - I understand local loyalties (and mentioned that earlier). But the big players in the state are the Vols and Titans.
and I would still say that it makes sense that just as the Titans represent the entire state the University OF Tennessee represents the whole state and therefore I still believe most football fans IN the state of TN are both Vols and Titans fans.
But I know there are folks who are Vandy and Memphis fans first.
"I wear a tinted visor not to trick other players, but so hot girls in stands don't see me looking at them" - Alex Ovechkin - May 2, 2009
Vanderbilt?
…never heard of em.
Ps – this is sarcasm..GO VOLS! GO TITANS!
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I don't hate the VOLS, but
I lived in Nashville when the Oilers came to town. I picked up on a vibe of complete indifference from die hard Vols fans, who felt they didn’t need an NFL team since they had the Vols. I’ve been out of Tennessee for nearly a decade, but maybe that attitude is still around.
I still remember some of the anti-Volunteer jokes…
I like Peyton, but this shit is just dumb
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by rothbard on Feb 8, 2012 8:39 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
you think its dumb to talk offseason stuff? OR the possibility of signing one the all time great QBs?
"I wear a tinted visor not to trick other players, but so hot girls in stands don't see me looking at them" - Alex Ovechkin - May 2, 2009
OR the possibility of signing one the all time great
QBsWRs?
couldn’t resist.
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by D. Reese on Feb 8, 2012 9:01 PM CST up reply actions 3 recs
of course you couldnt.
I guess one of us gets to say “I told you so” sometime in mid-season next year.
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I love the Titans and I am from Tennessee.
And fuck Peyton Manning.
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by fanoftheunderdogs on Feb 8, 2012 10:09 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
to the commenters and regular visitors? yeah, you’re right, but consider all the fans out there who are more or less in the dark about the whole situation. I’m sure we could find a whole mess of folks who have no idea where Peyton wants to go.
we're gonna skate to one song and one song only.
Guess its all about your desired audience.
To me, as I’ve gotten to know most of everyone here, I think a huge majority would say this is a non story. For the general and perhaps less educated (I realize this sounds elitist but MCM’s general intelligence is superior to the public’s) crowd, its a story.
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by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Feb 8, 2012 9:01 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Call it elitist if you want
But MCM in general is FAR more educated about the Titans than the average fan.
But I think it’s probably just because we’re the kind of folks who care enough about it and sink enough time into it to post in the comments on a Titans blog. It comes with the territory. haha
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by TennesseeTyrants on Feb 8, 2012 9:04 PM CST up reply actions
Guess its all about your desired audience.
basically. this site has about 4k visitors per day, I can assume (and this is generous) that about half of them, maybe a little less, are regulars. the idea is that somebody will see this and learn something.
we're gonna skate to one song and one song only.
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by StPrattrick on Feb 8, 2012 9:09 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
yes, all but two are Pratt and his multiple personality disorder, but those two might very well be uninformed. you never know.
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Jake Locker > Peyton Manning
by fanoftheunderdogs on Feb 8, 2012 10:10 PM CST up reply actions
"Non-story, honestly."
Truth.
Peyton to Nashville? Not happening.
Titans are betting their future on Locker.
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let me just say
I absolutely hate the Vols even more than I hate the Colts which is saying a lot. I also said the second he got injured that he would never play again.
That being said, if he proves to be healthy, I completely disagree with most statements made above. First of all, to say we would not win a Super Bowl with Peyton is not exactly fact. I think we can all agree we would have a better chance of winning with a healthy Peyton in the next two years than with Hass or Jake.
Second who’s to say Locker wouldn’t benefit from sitting behind Manning. Yes, Hasselback has been a gracious mentor/friend to Locker, but Manning is essientially a coach on the field and has seemed to have great relationships with all of his teammates throughout the years (besides that liquored-up kicker). Hell, Rodgers benefitted from watching a great QB, who by all accounts was kind of a selfish prick. You can’t tell me Locker would learn more from Hass than he would from arguably the finest QB ever to put on pads.
I mean hell, we all get excited about what locker would do with a healthy Britt, Cook, Nate and (plug in your favorite free agent WR). Imagine what a healthy Peyton could do.
Obviously there are a lot of “IFs” in this situation. But if the stars somehow manage to align, it could be one of the great things to happen for this franchise.
by The Nasty One Lives on Feb 9, 2012 12:42 AM CST via mobile reply actions 1 recs
finally, another MCMer who can get past their emotions and logically see that a healthy Manning would be a great thing for the Titans
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by Deaconbrodie on Feb 9, 2012 7:25 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
Emotions have nothing to do with it for me
We already have 1 big money-old-nearly broken down QB on the roster that is basically a place holder for Locker… we don’t need to further prevent him from starting, plus mess-up the relationship Locker/Hass has developed so far as the Mentor/Student.
Peyton is not the future, Locker is and the FO is fully committed to making that happened, clearly.
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by StPrattrick on Feb 9, 2012 8:13 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I love Peyton, he’s the best quarterback ever, breaking the bank and starting him over Jake Locker is a huge mistake.
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by D. Reese on Feb 9, 2012 11:22 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I can logically see that Manning would not be a great thing for the Titans.
And I hate how this narrative is becoming “LULZ YOU DON’T WANT PEYTON MANNING SO YOU AREN’T USING LOGIC”. Come on, you guys.
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by fanoftheunderdogs on Feb 9, 2012 11:36 AM CST up reply actions
I feel like the logical argument against bringing Manning in was made in the article.
And that the more emotional argument is coming from people wanting to see him come back to TN.
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by ronburgundy7427 on Feb 9, 2012 12:01 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I think there's a logical and emotional element both ways.
The logical argument for bringing him back would be that, if he’s healthy, Tennessee is an immediate Super Bowl contender. This year. The emotional portion is obvious—Vols fans love him.
The logical argument for not bringing him back was more or less made in the article. The emotional element is that Titans fans hate Manning because he has won our division every year except for twice prior to this season.
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by TennesseeTyrants on Feb 9, 2012 1:17 PM CST up reply actions
Totallly agree with your post TT.
The whole reason I was playing devils advocate is I believe a healthy Manning could make us instant Superbowl contenders. And until I spoke up no one was willing to admit that possibility or consider it.
I personally would not care if Locker sat another 2 years if that means we go to or win the Superbowl. It did not hurt Rodgers at all to sit a couple years.
My main concern is WINNING. Not in 2016, but in 2012.
This has been a fun debate.
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