2012 NFL Free Agency: Titans Wishlist #3 Carl Nicks
by Jimmy on Feb 15, 2012 3:01 PM CST
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PrintCarl Nicks is one of the best interior lineman in the NFL. It is going to be interesting to see what happens with him in New Orleans. The Saints have a lot of work to do between now and the start of free agency with Drew Brees, Carl Nicks and Marques Colston. I don't see any shot they can re-sign all three.
There is no doubt the Titans need to upgrade the interior line. I think that adding Nicks in Jake Scott's place would probably be enough to at least make the run game serviceable. I would love to see them replace at least 2/3 of last years interior line, but that is just a pipe dream.
Of course Mike Munchak did say on the Midday 180 on 104.5 today that he thinks the Titans run game would have been middle of the pack if they got a chance to re-do the season. That does not give me much hope for change.
Click through the jump to see the previous players on the list.
#10 Ben Grubbs
#9 Carlos Rogers
#8 Stevie Johnson
#7 Vincent Jackson
#6 Marques Coltson
#5 Cliff Avril
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Anybody>Jake Scott. Get this done!!!
GO TITANS!!!
by RhiNo6705 on Feb 15, 2012 3:06 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Jake Scott > Leroy Harris + Amano
by -Erock on Feb 15, 2012 4:14 PM CST via iPhone app up reply actions
You serious?
What makes you think that? Scott was pretty clearly the worst out of the bunch, to me.
"Do the Titans have a miracle left in them in what has been a magical season to this point? If they do, they need it now. Christie kicks it high and short. Gonna be fielded by Lorenzo Neal at the 25; he dishes it back to Wycheck; he throws it across the field to Dyson. 30, 40, 50, 40, 30, 20, 10, 5, endzone...touchdown, Titans! There are no flags on the field! It's a miracle! Tennessee has pulled a miracle! A miracle for the Titans!"
by TennesseeTyrants on Feb 15, 2012 4:18 PM CST up reply actions
You're kidding, right?
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Jake Locker > Peyton Manning
by fanoftheunderdogs on Feb 15, 2012 4:20 PM CST up reply actions
Scott achieved new levels of fail compared to Harris and Amano.
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by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Feb 15, 2012 4:27 PM CST up reply actions
maybe playing next to both of them made him look that bad
Amano was terrible at the point of attack and got blown back or run through on almost every play. Harris just looked lost.
by -Erock on Feb 15, 2012 4:51 PM CST via iPhone app up reply actions
All three were bad,
but there’s no doubt in my mind at least that Scott was the worst.
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by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Feb 15, 2012 4:54 PM CST up reply actions
Amano tackled Chris Johnson 3 times this year that I can recall
When you’re tackling your own runningback because you suck so bad, then you’ve earned the title of being the worst.
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Jake Locker > Peyton Manning
by fanoftheunderdogs on Feb 15, 2012 6:39 PM CST up reply actions
Why must it be "Amano tackled CJ"
instead of “CJ ran into Amano”?
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You apparently didn't see those plays if you're asking that.
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by fanoftheunderdogs on Feb 16, 2012 5:34 PM CST up reply actions
What makes you say that?
You seem pretty resolute about this, yet I can’t find anything in your post history even resembling Scott dissent that precedes the Muth article.
Personal opinion.
Tom Gower’s opinion.
Muth made his points, though I trust his opinion substantially less.
I think you can make an argument for keeping Amano. Blocking calls, experience.
You could craft a weaker argument supporting Harris. Clearly the staff trusts him and feel he can regain some of that potential they saw in him earlier.
I’m not sure why you would keep Scott around, apart from his experience on the team.
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by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Feb 15, 2012 8:22 PM CST up reply actions
Nope.
I do my best to form opinions of lineman based on things other than who the new MCM punching bag is, though. That might be where I’m going wrong.
"Do the Titans have a miracle left in them in what has been a magical season to this point? If they do, they need it now. Christie kicks it high and short. Gonna be fielded by Lorenzo Neal at the 25; he dishes it back to Wycheck; he throws it across the field to Dyson. 30, 40, 50, 40, 30, 20, 10, 5, endzone...touchdown, Titans! There are no flags on the field! It's a miracle! Tennessee has pulled a miracle! A miracle for the Titans!"
by TennesseeTyrants on Feb 15, 2012 4:32 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
hahahaha
For the Jake of argument ...
by BythePowerofMunchak! on Feb 15, 2012 4:50 PM CST up reply actions
That's exactly where you're going wrong.
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Jake Locker > Peyton Manning
by fanoftheunderdogs on Feb 15, 2012 6:38 PM CST up reply actions
Completely agree with Tyrants,
I played guard in HS and I know a lot of things that go on in the interior of the line ( IE, position BLOCKING [ I’m not saying it’s the same in the NFL, but I at least know the concept others don’t). and that is exactly what Jake Scott did. He never was physical, EVER. He was a pussy. Leroy Harris was at least physical and tried, ( failed , but tried ) going at full speed. Jake Scott flat out sucked.
GO TITANS!!!
Scott has always been a better pass blocker
What did Amano or Harris do well. My point is simply that Scott isn’t horrible and better than a lot of guards in the league. Playing next to 2 guys that do nothing well probably made him look worse. Amano is terrible. Only 2 guys touch the ball on every play. The center and the qb. Both of those guys better be the best at what they do ie Manning and Saturday.
by -Erock on Feb 15, 2012 6:14 PM CST via iPhone app up reply actions 1 recs
All 3 of them are good to excellent pass blockers.
Anything short of admitting that is just plain old uninformed hate.
I thought Jake Scott was more consistently out of position and getting beat on run blocking plays, though. Harris being the best of the 3, Amano behind him.
Not that any of the 3 of them were particularly good, but Harris and Amano were both better about playing (what appeared to be) their assignments and just all around being “in position.” In my opinion. Not that my singular opinion is worth all that much, but I feel like it’s a little more informed than calling Harris or Amano horrible players worthy of death just because it’s the cool thing to do.
"Do the Titans have a miracle left in them in what has been a magical season to this point? If they do, they need it now. Christie kicks it high and short. Gonna be fielded by Lorenzo Neal at the 25; he dishes it back to Wycheck; he throws it across the field to Dyson. 30, 40, 50, 40, 30, 20, 10, 5, endzone...touchdown, Titans! There are no flags on the field! It's a miracle! Tennessee has pulled a miracle! A miracle for the Titans!"
by TennesseeTyrants on Feb 15, 2012 7:43 PM CST up reply actions
This isn't necessarily directed at you. You're one of the few who was somewhat vocal of Scott's lackluster play during the season.
Still, if anything, bashing Scott has been “the cool thing to do” ever since the Word of Muth article. Prior to that there is chatter of his substandard performance is limited at best. Even then, it’s basically confined to a couple of FO linked posts that grade our O-line (one of which is the other Word of Muth article).
There are 82 comments ever on this blog with the name Jake Scott in them. 39 of them came after the Word of Muth article.
At this point, I’d say that, if anything, E-Rock’s position on the O-line bucks the latest trends.
by SuperHorn on Feb 15, 2012 8:17 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Oh, yeah.
It was the cool thing to do after the Muth article. No doubt, haha.
And it’s not like I’m taking pride in saying “Oh, I had this opinion and no one else did” or saying that there’s any real value in holding an opinion that’s unpopular.
I just think Amano had the really obviously ugly plays during the season and Harris had the crucial penalties, and those earned them the hate that Scott didn’t get, even though he was consistently worse, to me.
"Do the Titans have a miracle left in them in what has been a magical season to this point? If they do, they need it now. Christie kicks it high and short. Gonna be fielded by Lorenzo Neal at the 25; he dishes it back to Wycheck; he throws it across the field to Dyson. 30, 40, 50, 40, 30, 20, 10, 5, endzone...touchdown, Titans! There are no flags on the field! It's a miracle! Tennessee has pulled a miracle! A miracle for the Titans!"
by TennesseeTyrants on Feb 15, 2012 9:17 PM CST up reply actions
I wouldn't say it's the "cool thing to do" - most of us, even with a football back ground, don't catch the little things O-line players do correctly or do terribly
Muth opened our eyes to exactly who was the problem. We knew there was something terribly wrong with the O-line, just not quite sure who to place the blame on.
-I still believe Amano is a decent linemen, just playing the wrong position.
-Harris relies too much on athletic ability and does not have the smarts to be a starter.
-Scott regression started last season and just got awful this year.
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by StPrattrick on Feb 15, 2012 10:17 PM CST up reply actions
Ya seems like Scott is just the latest scape goat
I’m sure you’ll go back to bashing someone else later. Flavor of the week I guess. Fact is Amano spent too much time getting beat by average tackles let alone the good ones. It’s hard for a guard to be in position if your center keeps getting blown off of his. You can damn him if you want just understand what you are really doing: looking for one guy to point the finger at.
by -Erock on Feb 15, 2012 11:09 PM CST via iPhone app up reply actions
Haha
You have no idea what you’re talking about. That is literally exactly the opposite of what I’m doing.
Trust me, it’s not like I like bashing the linemen. If anything, I’ve defended them more than most people all season. I’ve also been down on Scott since the season, as SuperHorn pointed out.
"Do the Titans have a miracle left in them in what has been a magical season to this point? If they do, they need it now. Christie kicks it high and short. Gonna be fielded by Lorenzo Neal at the 25; he dishes it back to Wycheck; he throws it across the field to Dyson. 30, 40, 50, 40, 30, 20, 10, 5, endzone...touchdown, Titans! There are no flags on the field! It's a miracle! Tennessee has pulled a miracle! A miracle for the Titans!"
by TennesseeTyrants on Feb 16, 2012 7:04 AM CST up reply actions
"If they had a chance to re-do the season"?
WTF?
"Keep your eyes on the prize and your hand out of my pockets"
by TNAHenderson22 on Feb 15, 2012 3:14 PM CST via Android app reply actions
We will start the season with the same oline we ended with.
Book it.
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BRING BACK MOSS
I don't believe we're bringing him back for a single second.
"Do the Titans have a miracle left in them in what has been a magical season to this point? If they do, they need it now. Christie kicks it high and short. Gonna be fielded by Lorenzo Neal at the 25; he dishes it back to Wycheck; he throws it across the field to Dyson. 30, 40, 50, 40, 30, 20, 10, 5, endzone...touchdown, Titans! There are no flags on the field! It's a miracle! Tennessee has pulled a miracle! A miracle for the Titans!"
by TennesseeTyrants on Feb 15, 2012 4:07 PM CST up reply actions
He won't be back.
I’ll wager 10 MCM bucks on it because that’s how big a spender I am.
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by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Feb 15, 2012 4:15 PM CST up reply actions
NOOOOOOOOO!!!!!
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by ronburgundy7427 on Feb 15, 2012 3:40 PM CST up reply actions
hahaha
is there someone who thinks he should be signed??
I am thinking more end of the world… Cats and Dogs, living together, Mass Hysteria!
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Why would we re-sign him to play back-up... to who?
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I don't think either one of them should be starting, that being said... Harris is better then Scott
Unfortunately
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Velasco
"Keep your eyes on the prize and your hand out of my pockets"
by TNAHenderson22 on Feb 15, 2012 5:05 PM CST via Android app up reply actions
Where do people actually think he's good?
Don’t you think he would be starting if he was…? This isn’t the Jeff Fisher-system we run here.
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I remember Velasco coming in as a backup when somebody else had a minor injury
And those few plays were running plays, where CJ ran behind Velasco and actually gained a rushing first down and three straight rushes (which was an amazing feat last year)… then Velasco was pulled out when the other guy came back, and alas, CJ was stuffed.
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Jake Locker > Peyton Manning
by fanoftheunderdogs on Feb 15, 2012 6:42 PM CST up reply actions
*a rushing first down on three straight rushes
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by fanoftheunderdogs on Feb 15, 2012 6:42 PM CST up reply actions
The 'other guy' was Harris - wow facts!
and that is sample size FTW
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Sample size?
What is this? A statistics class?
"Do the Titans have a miracle left in them in what has been a magical season to this point? If they do, they need it now. Christie kicks it high and short. Gonna be fielded by Lorenzo Neal at the 25; he dishes it back to Wycheck; he throws it across the field to Dyson. 30, 40, 50, 40, 30, 20, 10, 5, endzone...touchdown, Titans! There are no flags on the field! It's a miracle! Tennessee has pulled a miracle! A miracle for the Titans!"
by TennesseeTyrants on Feb 15, 2012 7:44 PM CST up reply actions
If you are FOTUD it is!
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by StPrattrick on Feb 15, 2012 10:19 PM CST up reply actions
Locker's performances were also sample size
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by fanoftheunderdogs on Feb 15, 2012 7:58 PM CST up reply actions
Yes, they certainly were.
But we saw him lead entire drives. Nearly win games.
You saw Velasco play 3 plays.
"Do the Titans have a miracle left in them in what has been a magical season to this point? If they do, they need it now. Christie kicks it high and short. Gonna be fielded by Lorenzo Neal at the 25; he dishes it back to Wycheck; he throws it across the field to Dyson. 30, 40, 50, 40, 30, 20, 10, 5, endzone...touchdown, Titans! There are no flags on the field! It's a miracle! Tennessee has pulled a miracle! A miracle for the Titans!"
by TennesseeTyrants on Feb 15, 2012 8:03 PM CST up reply actions
Still sample size either way.
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Jake Locker > Peyton Manning
by fanoftheunderdogs on Feb 15, 2012 10:13 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah.
But one sample size is more statistically significant than the other.
"Do the Titans have a miracle left in them in what has been a magical season to this point? If they do, they need it now. Christie kicks it high and short. Gonna be fielded by Lorenzo Neal at the 25; he dishes it back to Wycheck; he throws it across the field to Dyson. 30, 40, 50, 40, 30, 20, 10, 5, endzone...touchdown, Titans! There are no flags on the field! It's a miracle! Tennessee has pulled a miracle! A miracle for the Titans!"
by TennesseeTyrants on Feb 15, 2012 10:30 PM CST up reply actions
Overused phrase of the week:
Sample size
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Jake Locker > Peyton Manning
by fanoftheunderdogs on Feb 16, 2012 5:36 PM CST up reply actions
... who is talking about Locker...?
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by StPrattrick on Feb 15, 2012 10:20 PM CST up reply actions
We're talking about sample size not mattering.
Why discriminate with that?
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Jake Locker > Peyton Manning
by fanoftheunderdogs on Feb 16, 2012 5:35 PM CST up reply actions
But it will give me good mailbag fodder...
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by ronburgundy7427 on Feb 15, 2012 3:52 PM CST up reply actions
You haven't answered my mailbag questions...
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I'm collecting them for an end-of-the-week thing.
Similar to Peter “King Douchebag”’s mailbag column but way better.
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by ronburgundy7427 on Feb 15, 2012 3:53 PM CST up reply actions
MCM Reaction if that happens:
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Jake Locker > Peyton Manning
by fanoftheunderdogs on Feb 15, 2012 4:21 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I can see it now
Same group offensive linemen plus a draft pick in the 3rd/4th round. We bring in 1 CB from FA, drop Finny and Hope and keep the rest of the DB. Draft a DE in the first round. I hate it, but that’s what i see our FO doing.
Write this man a blank check.
"Do the Titans have a miracle left in them in what has been a magical season to this point? If they do, they need it now. Christie kicks it high and short. Gonna be fielded by Lorenzo Neal at the 25; he dishes it back to Wycheck; he throws it across the field to Dyson. 30, 40, 50, 40, 30, 20, 10, 5, endzone...touchdown, Titans! There are no flags on the field! It's a miracle! Tennessee has pulled a miracle! A miracle for the Titans!"
by TennesseeTyrants on Feb 15, 2012 4:07 PM CST reply actions
Jake Scott has been a leader for years ...
His experience is invaluable to an Oline that will now have a full offseason to gel and improve. He’s already blocked for a 2,000 yard rusher, won a Super Bowl and been a part of Olines that have allowed very few sacks for his entire career. He’s only 30 years old and he hasn’t missed a game since 2004. We’ll be negotiating with his agent over the next month.
/munchak’d
For the Jake of argument ...
by BythePowerofMunchak! on Feb 15, 2012 4:13 PM CST reply actions
I don't get what this post is supposed to mean.
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Jake Locker > Peyton Manning
by fanoftheunderdogs on Feb 15, 2012 4:22 PM CST up reply actions
that is me pretending to be Mike Munchak defending Jake Scott
For the Jake of argument ...
by BythePowerofMunchak! on Feb 15, 2012 4:49 PM CST up reply actions
Maybe By the Power of Munchak is actually Munchak in disguise!
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Jake Locker > Peyton Manning
by fanoftheunderdogs on Feb 15, 2012 6:43 PM CST up reply actions
A man has to have a vice.
"I’ve had a great supporting cast my whole life. Family and friends have given me a good example of what leadership is and I’ve just tried to do my best to follow suit in that. Learn from what they have taught me and apply it to my life in every situation on and off the field. I look forward to bringing that to the Titans." - Jake Locker
The Saints will lock up Nicks.
The Titans have a better shot at Colston, who will make a fine WR2 across from Britt.
but Colston will want WR1 money
And unfortunately for us he’ll probably get it.
by -Erock on Feb 15, 2012 11:17 PM CST via iPhone app up reply actions
It's unfortunate when the Titans spend money on anything, isn't it?
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Jake Locker > Peyton Manning
by fanoftheunderdogs on Feb 16, 2012 5:36 PM CST up reply actions
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