Tennessee Titans Daily Links: Black, Two Sugars Nate Edition
by August West on Feb 1, 2012 11:50 AM CST
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Kenny Britt pled guilty to disturbing the peace back in Hoboken, NJ, and was assessed a $1,500 fine. The charges were the downgraded result from the incident last June where police accused Britt of crushing a joint/blunt and getting rid of it before police could find it. It'll be interesting to see if the guilty plea, despite the reduced charges and toothless punishment, will be enough to warrant a suspension to be served next season from the commish.
The Titans have hired Nate Kaczor to fetch Bruce Matthew's coffee be the assistant offensive line coach. Kaczor has spent the past four seasons as the assistant special teams coach in Jacksonville, and before that he coached for 17 years at the college level. Kaczor will replace Art Valero (whom I'd never heard of), who left the team because he wanted to coach a position group.
Paul K unveils his All-AFC South defense and special teams units, and Titans Jurrell Casey, Cortland Finnegan, Rob Bironas and Marc Mariani make the cut. Mariani gets in there as a punt returner, which you know Jimmy and Gramsey are going to love...
Jim Wyatt has photos from Super Bowl week over at the Tennessean.
Eli Manning is on the verge of eclipsing his brother's number of Super Bowl rings, but in Indy, he's still in Peyton's shadow.
PFF says that Matt Hasselbeck was the 10th best in the league at avoiding sacks when pressured, though the most impressive number here is the freakishly few number of pressured drop backs he faced compared to any other QB who played 14 or more games. Of the 112 times he did face pressure, Hasselbeck only went down 18 times.
Marshall Faulk weighs in on Peyton Watch 2012.
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GoldenGrams and Jommy... did you guys hear M.ega M.an made the All-AFC ST list??!
Did you??
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by StPrattrick on Feb 1, 2012 12:00 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
for punt return
he’s meh on kick returns
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by Ice0ne (CAJ) on Feb 1, 2012 12:06 PM CST up reply actions
13th in the league - and he's 1 of 14 other people that do duel punt/kick return duties.
I’d say early in the year, when he was still getting use to the kick-offs, really hurt his average… but he’s always getting us where we need to be.
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for 2 years...
not a really back up worthy stat
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regardless of the sample size
he is bringing back punts for td’s at the same rate as deion sanders and eric metcalf. the point being is mariani is good. end of story.
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i know!
i’m trying to make an arguement for entertainment’s sake!
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i was just trying to start an arguement, and now you have!
it should be spelled like that!!
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by Ice0ne (CAJ) on Feb 2, 2012 11:25 AM CST up reply actions
Yes, ha haha ha
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8th all time among Kick/Punt returners in total yardage in their first two years in the league.
per SuperH
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getting used to the kickoffs?
the titans didn’t return a KO until like the 6th game. we were the last team to do so. i think all the rest were kicked out of the endzone or were EXTREMELY deep.
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That is what I mean, they were being kicked to the back of the endzone or just completely kicked off the field
Typically KR’s are told not to return a kick if its farther then 3 yards into the endzone… which would have made it pretty difficult for him to judge whether or not he should bring it out or down it.
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true
i remember him running out his first KO… he got to like the 12 yard line. but he looked SO excited! :p
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Mariani gonna do his thang, so whatevs.
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So he beat Jacoby Jones?
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by Jimmy on Feb 1, 2012 12:09 PM CST reply actions 3 recs
yeah
says more about the returners in the AFC South than it does about Mariani.
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He was 4th in the league in punt returns
actually, Jacoby Jones was 3rd in yards.
MM had a slightly better average though.
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what about mccourty??
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by Ice0ne (CAJ) on Feb 1, 2012 12:33 PM CST up reply actions
... depends on what cleats I am wearing.
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even ringer or kb at kick returner?
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by Ice0ne (CAJ) on Feb 1, 2012 12:43 PM CST up reply actions
Bring it!
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lolz
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by Ice0ne (CAJ) on Feb 1, 2012 12:32 PM CST up reply actions
I gotta ask.
What do you and August expect out of a Kick Returner that Mariani isn’t producing? The dude didn’t return one for a TD this year, but that only happened 8 times this year…all by different players.
The kid protects the ball, and almost never makes a boneheaded mistake. I think the Sportscenter age has tricked us all into thinking that big returns are happening all over the league, but they aren’t.
Mariani was 15th in the league this year among kick returners with an average of 23.38 YPR. #1 posted a YPR of 27.68. The difference is marginal. Those are solid numbers (better than Sportscenter extraordinaire Devin Hester, I’d add).
The downside in replacing him is dramatically lower than the marginal potential upside of finding a replacement.
by SuperHorn on Feb 1, 2012 1:33 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Mind you too, he had duel duties of punt and kick returning, plus trying to crack the line-up at WR
for those saying he is a waste of a roster spot.
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Add to the fact that the downside as SH points out
Would be reverting to what he had before. For those who can’t remember (or those that choose to forget) were games that were sometimes literally decided on whether or not we returned the ball or coughed it up. I know I wasn’t the only one who held his breath when a punt or kick came to us before Mariani.
Point being, that area of the game has not been a concern at all since we got him. And, every now and again, he’ll take it to the house
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by TitanNDCClothing on Feb 1, 2012 2:07 PM CST up reply actions
Ugh... the worse.
I honestly remember watching that game thinking “THIS IS CHRIS HENRY’S TIME!!!!” … then that happend.
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I wans't nearly as down on him as Jimmy and Gray
but it’s still disheartening that he was an ace KR, and that just isn’t very important when 80% of kick-offs sail though the uprights. I hope he can become as good of a PR as he is a KR, but he isn’t there yet. His net returns don’t speak to the kicks he misjudged, which screwed us on field position.
That being said, I’m still damned happy to have him back there.
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No doubt, he could have been better.
I just think when you really start looking around the league, the alternatives could be MUCH worse.
I love it
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It's all that needs to be said.
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Don't get me wrong.
I really like Mariani, and I’d hate to see him go.
But that stat brings one phrase to mind: sample size.
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by TennesseeTyrants on Feb 1, 2012 5:00 PM CST up reply actions
Where is he going?
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Hopefully nowhere.
"Do the Titans have a miracle left in them in what has been a magical season to this point? If they do, they need it now. Christie kicks it high and short. Gonna be fielded by Lorenzo Neal at the 25; he dishes it back to Wycheck; he throws it across the field to Dyson. 30, 40, 50, 40, 30, 20, 10, 5, endzone...touchdown, Titans! There are no flags on the field! It's a miracle! Tennessee has pulled a miracle! A miracle for the Titans!"
by TennesseeTyrants on Feb 1, 2012 5:05 PM CST up reply actions
montana?
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by Ice0ne (CAJ) on Feb 2, 2012 11:30 AM CST up reply actions
The sample size issue is completely irrelevant Einstein
If I was saying that Mariani is the best returner ever, or one of the top 15 return men of all time, then you would have been justified in bringing the issue of sample size into the debate.
But that’s not what I was saying. I was saying he has done a good job so far, and all of this talk about him not being great, and us needing to find another returner – is GARBAGE.
The fact of the matter is Mariani has been on this team for 2 years. During those 2 years, he has played very, very well. If he plays as well as he has for the rest of his career he will be one of the best ever. For some stupid reason people seem to want an upgrade over Mariani, or at least they are being subtle in hinting at it. My guess is because these people want someone who makes people miss more, i.e. someone who is on ESPN every week because they dance around a lot on their returns. Those people need their brains checked. It sounds like you may be one of those people. Are you one of those people??
Regardless if you are or not, bringing up Mariani’s ‘sample size’ is completely ridiculous. It is like you are punishing Mariani for not being born 3 years earlier. WHO CARES if it is a small sample size? The fact of the matter is Mariani has played well since being drafted, and there is absolutely no reason to bring in another returner to replace him.
WHO CARES if it is a small sample size?
given the outrageously mercurial nature of the careers of return men, I care.
we're gonna skate to one song and one song only.
so then you are saying Mariani should be replaced because he hasn't played long enough?
Use your brain Reese
This is the same guy who said he would re-draft Pacman Jones...
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and drops a wu tang as his profile picture
which brings me to my profile picture. Goodbye Givens, hello Mariani. Let this profile picture change serve as a reminder that Mariani belongs on this team.
I am, it just works differently than yours. I see a pretty replaceable player who hasn’t had enough sustained success to prove to me that he’s worth a big effort to keep around.
we're gonna skate to one song and one song only.
how is it a big effort to keep mariani?
he is under contract….a very small contract at that. he may be one of the cheapest players we have.
and if he is that replaceable, then why is he the best returner this franchise has had in the past 20 years? yes, i would take mariani over pacman (much more reliable, team player, no legal issues) and mel gray (who was on his last legs when we had him). the only player that compares to him is mason.
I’m saying when the time comes to renew his contract, he’ll undoubtedly ask for a raise, something we shouldn’t be obliged to do. someone else will come along and pretty much seamlessly step into his role.
I think that speaks more to the quality of return men that we’ve had than it does to Mariani. I don’t think he’s a bad player, but he’s replaceable, that’s all.
we're gonna skate to one song and one song only.
I don't want to replace him unless we have something better
Which we don’t.
I don’t think our special team blocking gets enough credit for Mariani. He does real good when there are no would be tacklers close, but he isn’t gonna make somebody miss.
I was watching Patrick Peterson highlights and just made a comment that I would like a dynamic returner. Mariani is a safe returner, and that’s fine. He just doesn’t excite me.
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by TitanNDCClothing on Feb 2, 2012 12:33 PM CST up reply actions
Clearly a softball question
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by TitanNDCClothing on Feb 2, 2012 5:18 PM CST up reply actions
Haters gonna hate.
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by fanoftheunderdogs on Feb 1, 2012 10:50 PM CST up reply actions
But Naters will still Nate
Won’t they?
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by Ice0ne (CAJ) on Feb 2, 2012 11:30 AM CST up reply actions
What do you guys think of AFTER drafting OL and DL in first two rounds then...
…drafting Joe Adams WR-PR-KR specialist from Arkansas…MVP of south team in Senior bowl, 8 catches for 133 yards…and he worked for those yards.
We could get him in 3rd…probably not 4th if he continues to impress at combine but I’ve actually seen him mocked to us in the 4th.
Just food for thought….
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I like it, but we still need to get a WR in either FA or earlier in the draft imo.
by NoMoreMustache on Feb 1, 2012 12:39 PM CST up reply actions
I am all for a GOOD WR in FA...but I'll believe it when I see it. And then I would be ecstatic!
WR in first round…I dont think Floyd or Jeffrey would fall to us…if so I would be for that, other than those two..and obviously Blackmon….I wouldnt draft WR in first.
Then go DL and OL in the next two rounds.
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by Deaconbrodie on Feb 1, 2012 12:44 PM CST up reply actions
WHY DO YOU WANT TO REPLACE MARIANI!!!!!!!!1111111111111111111111111111111
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I think Hass' stats are a more a product of his getting rid of the ball quickly
Than anything else.
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by TitanNDCClothing on Feb 1, 2012 12:41 PM CST reply actions
freakishly few number of pressured drop backs he faced compared to any other QB who played 14 or more games.
Props to the line.
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by TennesseeTyrants on Feb 1, 2012 1:19 PM CST reply actions
Just saw this tweet from PFF:
I was so up in arms about the Titans calling a pass on 83% of J Cook’s 575 snaps this year that I overlooked the 85% rate on LHawkins’ snaps
I feel like those are obvious tells. We need more versatility, Cook needs to learn to block.
Wow, I knew about the Jared Cook one cause of the weekly snaps report, didn't know about Hawkins.
I agree, it’s an obvious tell. Do you have the stats on how many run players were called when Mariani or Craig Stevens were on the field. I am sure that they are similar to Cook’s numbers, just for run plays, as they were the main blockers. That, I think also needs to be fixed, so that opponents don’t know what’s coming.
by infinitystealth on Feb 1, 2012 4:44 PM CST up reply actions
I guess we got to a point in the season where we had to work with what we've got...
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The only other option is to run
which we super sucked at. Unless you want to punt on 2nd down…
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Hawkins makes some sense.
He was the 4th receiver to get on the field, most of the time. We pass 85% of the time in 4 WR sets? That’s not much of a tell. That’s just obvious.
Cookie’s is also probably exaggerated because he did line up at WR so much in those passing sets, so again, many of his snaps came in obvious passing situations anyway. Still, his inability to block is borderline inexcusable for a TE.
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by TennesseeTyrants on Feb 1, 2012 5:05 PM CST up reply actions
I remember reading toward the end of the season that Thor mentioned his blocking ability increased significantly (probably from bad to moderate)
but then again, towards the end of the season we nearly abandoned the run
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Yeah his blocking did get better
against the texans he blocked two dbs at once on cj’s sweep to the left that went for 25
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