2012 NFL Draft: Todd McShay Big Board
by Jimmy on Jan 5, 2012 2:01 PM CST
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After the jump is Todd McShay's latest big board (In$ider). There is a lot of defensive end meat on the bone in the top 20.
| Rank | Player | Position | College | Last Week |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | Andrew Luck | QB | Stanford | 1 |
| 2 | Matt Kalil | OT | USC | 2 |
| 3 | Morris Claiborne | CB | LSU | 3 |
| 4 | Trent Richardson | RB | Alabama | 4 |
| 5 | Quinton Coples | DE | UNC | 5 |
| 6 | Robert Griffin III | QB | Baylor | 9 |
| 7 | Riley Reiff | OT | Iowa | 8 |
| 8 | Dre Kirkpatrick | CB | Alabama | 9 |
| 9 | Justin Blackmon | WR | Oklahoma St | 10 |
| 10 | Jonathan Martin | OT | Stanford | 6 |
| 11 | Andre Branch | DE | Clemson | 14 |
| 12 | Melvin Ingram | DE | South Carolina | 11 |
| 13 | Luke Kuechly | ILB | Boston College | 12 |
| 14 | Mark Barron | S | Alabama | 13 |
| 15 | David DeCastro | G | Stanford | 15 |
| 16 | Courtney Upshaw | OLB | Alabama | 16 |
| 17 | Landry Jones | QB | Oklahoma | 17 |
| 18 | Sam Montgomery | DE | LSU | NR |
| 19 | Vontaze Burfict | ILB | Arizona St | 19 |
| 20 | Michael Brockers | DT | LSU | NR |
| 21 | Michael Floyd | WR | Notre Dame | 21 |
| 22 | Devon Still | DT | Penn St | 18 |
| 23 | David Wilson | RB | Virginia Tech | 22 |
| 24 | Fletcher Cox | DT | Mississippi St | 20 |
| 25 | Alfonzo Dennard | CB | Nebraska | 23 |
| 26 | Jarvis Jones | OLB | Georgia | 24 |
| 27 | Alshon Jeffery | WR | South Carolina | 25 |
| 28 | Kevin Reddick | OLB | North Carolina | 26 |
| 29 | Ryan Tannehill | QB | Texas A&M | 27 |
| 30 | Lamar Miller | RB | Miami | 28 |
| 31 | Dwayne Allen | TE | Clemson | 29 |
| 32 | Kendall Wright | WR | Baylor | 30 |
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Any chance
We can get more information and a better picture of the Prospect in the White Shirt behind and between the two goof balls?
Yup
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hahaha
he doesnt get it
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Oh "That" prospect haha
Oops, ya she could easily replace Michelle Griffin in the secondary day one.
This
Jones will be nothing more than a backup QB, IMO. Tannehill, same for him.
Outside of Luck and RG3, this year’s QB class is pretty mediocre.
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by Dynamic Dreadlocks on Jan 5, 2012 2:22 PM CST up reply actions
Exactly L. Jones is a system QB and even then he bombed...Mcshay be smoking!
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by MexicanTitanFreak on Jan 5, 2012 3:10 PM CST up reply actions
Burfict at 19?!
woooooow.
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It looks like he'll do well in the NFL...
but when I watched him play, he had a problem keeping his temper in check. He got a lot of 15 yarders.
This is his biggest problem by far
He cost ASU a lot of games because of it.
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yeah which is why i know we will not draft
at least in the 1st round
i say he still goes late 1st
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nah
Quentin Mercilus
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by Ice0ne (CAJ) on Jan 6, 2012 12:08 AM CST up reply actions
Yea I was surprised too.
I go to ASU and I know how much of a problem he is. He just doesn’t know how to play clean.
Marc Barron
would be a steal if he makes it to 20. No idea about his character, but he’s a dominate safety… the kind that are so good they don’t have to have a great front 7 to make plays.
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dominant > dominate
rough past few days, folks.
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oh yeah, just crazy at work
prepped a big presentation for the bosses to take out of town, and now we’re left running the ship with a ton of hot deadlines. I’m used to January being slow, but no luck there this year.
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Total opposite for me, Jan. is suppose to be our crazy busy month
this year starting out slow though. No doubt it gets nuts here shortly.
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Guess people are lazier then ever this year...
Nothing new.
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I was lifting yesterday getting my sweat on and I see a chubby kid come walking in..
and he proceeds to run on the treadmill wearing steel toed boots.
That was definitely a new year’s resolution person.
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lol, wha?
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yea I just laughed, he ran for about 5 minutes and then stopped the treadmill..
gasping for air and a twinkie (kidding about the last part)
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i would've written on a piece of paper
“You’re doing it wrong”
and just walked away lol
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I would have told him to his face, "just stop."
but I think that would be frowned upon lol.
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Hey, man, no sense in giving someone a hard time who's trying to better himself.
Everybody starts somewhere.
Helping him choose better footwear would have been nice of you, however. haha
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by TennesseeTyrants on Jan 5, 2012 3:15 PM CST up reply actions
Exactly this
lots of people get turned away from bettering themselves because of people laughing at them when its already a struggle for them to be there…
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i was laughing
at the “steel toed boots” myself.
i have no problem with someone trying to better them self
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wait, give him the piece of paper, let him read it then when he asks
“what do you mean?”
then say that lol
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Eh everyone has to start somewhere
he’ll learn when his feet and shins are in ultimate pain.
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Already completed my New Years resolution
Sent a letter to my gym to cancel my membership…. Feeling accomplished
Nice work!
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I wasn't aware that was a type of safety.
You mean Griffin and Hope AREN’T the greatest safeties to ever play!?
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by BonzosMontreaux on Jan 5, 2012 2:26 PM CST up reply actions
I honestly think Barron could be phenomenal
don’t know if he’s Reed/Polamaloiadhjbcoqv good. but he’d be right beneath them if he isn’t.
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I'm right there with you. I'd find it hard to justify taking him over an elite OL, though.
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by BonzosMontreaux on Jan 5, 2012 2:34 PM CST up reply actions
I agree if one is there
but right now, on a lot of boards, the 1st round OL talent trends very heavily towards the top half. Plus, we just haven’t spent top picks on O-linemen historically.
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Thats true. I think we just havent needed to spend a top pick on one in quite awhile, though.
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by BonzosMontreaux on Jan 5, 2012 2:45 PM CST up reply actions
If DeCastro and Jeffrey are on the board when we pick, who would you rather have?
As much as I’d love to add the shiny new toy for Locker to throw to in the future and add insurance in case Britt’s knees have issue again, upgrading this offensive line is an absolute priority. It’s a tough call.
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by Dynamic Dreadlocks on Jan 5, 2012 2:24 PM CST reply actions
DeCastro without question for me.
So much less confident in our O-line than our receivers.
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by BonzosMontreaux on Jan 5, 2012 2:27 PM CST up reply actions
it's kind of the blessing and the curse
we have a slew of spots where we need upgrades enough they could go for the best player available and we’d be better for it. Pretty much any first round-caliber playmaker at DE, DT, S, OG, OC or WR would make sense. You could even argue for an OLB if it’s a special guy.
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Jeffrey
i think im in favor at the moment of a FA center and a 2nd round Guard. that means best available of DE, S, OLB, WR in the 1st. a 1st round guard better damn well be absolutely amazing from day 1, as they rarely start coming off the board til round 2.
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Jeffrey was predicted to be drafted by us a day after the 2011 NFL Draft was over.
might as well make it true.
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my online hesitation with a FA center or (epsecially) guard
is they seem to be really a poor salary cap value, generally. Too much money for a spot rookies can do well a lot of the time.
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right but 1st round OG is poor draft value too
if it were a Pouncey level center, maybe. but there are lots big guards in round 2.
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conpletely agree
that’s one of the main reasons I don’t think we will go that direction, but I’ll be really excited if they do because it’ll mean they really see something amazing in whomever it is.
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I wouldn't mind grabbing Jeffery at 20 and going G/C C/G in the 2nd and 3rd.
But you would have to either keep Amano at center, shift him out to guard, or bring in a FA. If Decastro is on the board at 20 it is hard to pass him up, but a Jeffery/ Britt/ All State combination could be lethal for Beck or Locker.
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Also would like to say that I know we need a better pass rush,
but I am willing to give Morgan another chance to come through in year three, and maybe someone else steps up as well. I have no faith in anyone playing G or C on the roster so IMO it is the most urgent position of need.
At the same time, we have a history of success with late round lineman so I wouldn’t be upset to see us grab a DE early, as long as we get someone new on the OL because they have reached their ceiling…and it is as high as the floor.
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i'd rather get someone on the depth chart other than scott, harris, or amano to play the other spot
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a lot of these guys don't update their evaluations until the bowl season starts
I’m guessing McShay is the same way
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Correction.
a lot of these guys don’t update their evaluations begin looking to others and starting the herd mentality until the bowl season starts. I’m guessing McShay is the same way.
The herd mentality among the talking heads leading up to the draft never ceases to amaze me.
Also, speaking from a VT bias
I don’t know why David Wilson makes it on at 23, but Jayron Hosley is absent. I would think Hosley is the better prospect.
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DeCastro but
Is anyone else really intrigued by the possibility of seeing a speed demon like Zach Brown (OLB) UNC playing opposite Ayers?
i think we wait on OLB, Sean Spence would be nice and could probably get him in the 3rd round.
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I agree on Spence. LBs from Da U usually don't bust and are willing to work for it
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Maybe even a 4th or 5th for Spence?
Isn’t he a little on the short side? I don’t see there being much demand for 4-3 OLB of his stature. Outside of interior o-line and DE I don’t see another weak spot where it would be worth waiting around the for the middle of the draft for
Where's trevor when we need him?
I want to know about these LSU linemen that are in the range we’re picking.
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Its possible that some of them are overrated due to a terrific team defense overall.
I’d be much more comfortable taking a DL that was the only threat on his line than one where you can’t quite tell who was really commanding the attention.
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by BonzosMontreaux on Jan 5, 2012 2:56 PM CST up reply actions
Fair point.
I just want to get to know the more highly-rated DL prospects as I think we’re going to go that way early.
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by ronburgundy7427 on Jan 5, 2012 2:57 PM CST up reply actions
They are both sophomores
Montgomery could be a really good DE, but he’s not gonna be that premier pass rusher like Jared Allen, Osi, or someone like that. Especially when I see my boy Mingo tearing it up on the same team..he looks like Derrick Morgan this year compared to Mingo when it comes to rushing the passer. He is good vs. the run though…probably better than any of our DE’s vs the run already. Brockers is a beast vs the run. Just the thought of him lining up next to Casey one day has me salivating. But like I said, they’re both sophomores so it really doesn’t matter
De Castro without question! Anybody know if he could play Center?
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by MexicanTitanFreak on Jan 5, 2012 3:12 PM CST reply actions
nice...ba da pum!
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by MexicanTitanFreak on Jan 5, 2012 3:17 PM CST up reply actions
Hey, Bama folks.
Not that we’ll be looking at OLB in the first round, but how does Upshaw project as a 4-3 player? Could he get it done, or is he more of the pass rushing 3-4 guy?
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by TennesseeTyrants on Jan 5, 2012 3:14 PM CST reply actions
put him at FS!!
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man...
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Y U Hatin?
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Thanks for the unbiased responses, guys.
"Do the Titans have a miracle left in them in what has been a magical season to this point? If they do, they need it now. Christie kicks it high and short. Gonna be fielded by Lorenzo Neal at the 25; he dishes it back to Wycheck; he throws it across the field to Dyson. 30, 40, 50, 40, 30, 20, 10, 5, endzone...touchdown, Titans! There are no flags on the field! It's a miracle! Tennessee has pulled a miracle! A miracle for the Titans!"
by TennesseeTyrants on Jan 5, 2012 4:20 PM CST up reply actions
I know that your officials blow, so I don't overlook that!
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by BonzosMontreaux on Jan 5, 2012 4:21 PM CST up reply actions
So PFT had something to say about Casey that I enjoyed.
9. Jurrell Casey, DT, Tennessee Titans
There’s some chatter amongst the PF analysts that Casey may have already peaked in his role as running game nuisance. I looked at our Signature Stat that breaks down how many stops a defender makes in relation to the time they are on the field and Casey was third in the entire league. A great find in the third round.
Third in the entire GODDAMN league.
yeah. what a suprise casey has been. rookie of the year contender.
Still amazed by this rookie draft class. Its amazing what new blood can do. Keep drafting defense and see if jerry gray can make them beast is my draft plan.
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Landry Jones is returning to OU next year
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