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2012 NFL Draft: Todd McShay Big Board

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After the jump is Todd McShay's latest big board (In$ider). There is a lot of defensive end meat on the bone in the top 20.

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Rank Player Position College Last Week
1 Andrew Luck QB Stanford 1
2 Matt Kalil OT USC 2
3 Morris Claiborne CB LSU 3
4 Trent Richardson RB Alabama 4
5 Quinton Coples DE UNC 5
6 Robert Griffin III QB Baylor 9
7 Riley Reiff OT Iowa 8
8 Dre Kirkpatrick CB Alabama 9
9 Justin Blackmon WR Oklahoma St 10
10 Jonathan Martin OT Stanford 6
11 Andre Branch DE Clemson 14
12 Melvin Ingram DE South Carolina 11
13 Luke Kuechly ILB Boston College 12
14 Mark Barron S Alabama 13
15 David DeCastro G Stanford 15
16 Courtney Upshaw OLB Alabama 16
17 Landry Jones QB Oklahoma 17
18 Sam Montgomery DE LSU NR
19 Vontaze Burfict ILB Arizona St 19
20 Michael Brockers DT LSU NR
21 Michael Floyd WR Notre Dame 21
22 Devon Still DT Penn St 18
23 David Wilson RB Virginia Tech 22
24 Fletcher Cox DT Mississippi St 20
25 Alfonzo Dennard CB Nebraska 23
26 Jarvis Jones OLB Georgia 24
27 Alshon Jeffery WR South Carolina 25
28 Kevin Reddick OLB North Carolina 26
29 Ryan Tannehill QB Texas A&M 27
30 Lamar Miller RB Miami 28
31 Dwayne Allen TE Clemson 29
32 Kendall Wright WR Baylor 30

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Any chance

We can get more information and a better picture of the Prospect in the White Shirt behind and between the two goof balls?

by white02slpss on Jan 5, 2012 2:04 PM CST reply actions  

Yup

Its David Kuharksy, you know who’s half sibling.

by CeolsigeWK87 on Jan 5, 2012 3:39 PM CST up reply actions  

hahaha

he doesnt get it

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by Ice0ne (CAJ) on Jan 5, 2012 4:20 PM CST up reply actions  

Atleast

Smash’s Dad made it in the pick…

USC > UT (Both of them)

by SoCalTitan on Jan 5, 2012 4:22 PM CST up reply actions  

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USC > UT (Both of them)

by SoCalTitan on Jan 5, 2012 4:23 PM CST up reply actions  

Oh "That" prospect haha

Oops, ya she could easily replace Michelle Griffin in the secondary day one.

by CeolsigeWK87 on Jan 5, 2012 4:30 PM CST up reply actions  

This

Jones will be nothing more than a backup QB, IMO. Tannehill, same for him.

Outside of Luck and RG3, this year’s QB class is pretty mediocre.

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by Dynamic Dreadlocks on Jan 5, 2012 2:22 PM CST up reply actions  

Burfict at 19?!

woooooow.

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by StPrattrick on Jan 5, 2012 2:09 PM CST reply actions  

It looks like he'll do well in the NFL...

but when I watched him play, he had a problem keeping his temper in check. He got a lot of 15 yarders.

by PA-Titan on Jan 5, 2012 4:26 PM CST up reply actions  

This is his biggest problem by far

He cost ASU a lot of games because of it.

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by StPrattrick on Jan 5, 2012 5:08 PM CST up reply actions  

But that name....

One might say it’s the….purfict football name?

by coolcolin09 on Jan 5, 2012 10:06 PM CST up reply actions  

nah

Quentin Mercilus

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by Ice0ne (CAJ) on Jan 6, 2012 12:08 AM CST up reply actions  

Yea I was surprised too.

I go to ASU and I know how much of a problem he is. He just doesn’t know how to play clean.

by Lobotomyze on Jan 6, 2012 7:54 AM CST up reply actions  

Marc Barron

would be a steal if he makes it to 20. No idea about his character, but he’s a dominate safety… the kind that are so good they don’t have to have a great front 7 to make plays.

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by August West on Jan 5, 2012 2:23 PM CST reply actions  

Mark > Marc

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by August West on Jan 5, 2012 2:24 PM CST up reply actions  

dominant > dominate

rough past few days, folks.

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by August West on Jan 5, 2012 2:28 PM CST up reply actions  

You doin' alright buddy?

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by StPrattrick on Jan 5, 2012 2:33 PM CST up reply actions  

oh yeah, just crazy at work

prepped a big presentation for the bosses to take out of town, and now we’re left running the ship with a ton of hot deadlines. I’m used to January being slow, but no luck there this year.

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by August West on Jan 5, 2012 2:43 PM CST up reply actions  

Total opposite for me, Jan. is suppose to be our crazy busy month

this year starting out slow though. No doubt it gets nuts here shortly.

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by StPrattrick on Jan 5, 2012 2:51 PM CST up reply actions  

Guess people are lazier then ever this year...

Nothing new.

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by StPrattrick on Jan 5, 2012 3:07 PM CST up reply actions  

I was lifting yesterday getting my sweat on and I see a chubby kid come walking in..

and he proceeds to run on the treadmill wearing steel toed boots.

That was definitely a new year’s resolution person.

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by rsikes on Jan 5, 2012 3:10 PM CST up reply actions  

yea I just laughed, he ran for about 5 minutes and then stopped the treadmill..

gasping for air and a twinkie (kidding about the last part)

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by rsikes on Jan 5, 2012 3:12 PM CST up reply actions  

i would've written on a piece of paper

“You’re doing it wrong”
and just walked away lol

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by Ice0ne (CAJ) on Jan 5, 2012 3:13 PM CST up reply actions  

I would have told him to his face, "just stop."

but I think that would be frowned upon lol.

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by rsikes on Jan 5, 2012 3:14 PM CST up reply actions  

Hey, man, no sense in giving someone a hard time who's trying to better himself.

Everybody starts somewhere.

Helping him choose better footwear would have been nice of you, however. haha

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by TennesseeTyrants on Jan 5, 2012 3:15 PM CST up reply actions  

Exactly.

I hate January and late Spring because the gym gets crowded by people that will inevitably putter out in a few weeks. But, there’s always a few that stick with it. You gotta start somewhere.

by SuperHorn on Jan 5, 2012 3:27 PM CST up reply actions  

Exactly this

lots of people get turned away from bettering themselves because of people laughing at them when its already a struggle for them to be there…

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by StPrattrick on Jan 5, 2012 3:35 PM CST up reply actions  

i was laughing

at the “steel toed boots” myself.
i have no problem with someone trying to better them self

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by Ice0ne (CAJ) on Jan 5, 2012 3:49 PM CST up reply actions  

Eh everyone has to start somewhere

he’ll learn when his feet and shins are in ultimate pain.

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by StPrattrick on Jan 5, 2012 3:34 PM CST up reply actions  

Already completed my New Years resolution

Sent a letter to my gym to cancel my membership…. Feeling accomplished

by DustyPaynts on Jan 5, 2012 4:15 PM CST up reply actions  

Nice work!

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by StPrattrick on Jan 5, 2012 5:09 PM CST up reply actions  

I wasn't aware that was a type of safety.

You mean Griffin and Hope AREN’T the greatest safeties to ever play!?

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by BonzosMontreaux on Jan 5, 2012 2:26 PM CST up reply actions  

I honestly think Barron could be phenomenal

don’t know if he’s Reed/Polamaloiadhjbcoqv good. but he’d be right beneath them if he isn’t.

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by August West on Jan 5, 2012 2:33 PM CST up reply actions  

I agree if one is there

but right now, on a lot of boards, the 1st round OL talent trends very heavily towards the top half. Plus, we just haven’t spent top picks on O-linemen historically.

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by August West on Jan 5, 2012 2:42 PM CST up reply actions  

If DeCastro and Jeffrey are on the board when we pick, who would you rather have?

As much as I’d love to add the shiny new toy for Locker to throw to in the future and add insurance in case Britt’s knees have issue again, upgrading this offensive line is an absolute priority. It’s a tough call.

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by Dynamic Dreadlocks on Jan 5, 2012 2:24 PM CST reply actions  

DeCastro without question for me.

So much less confident in our O-line than our receivers.

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by BonzosMontreaux on Jan 5, 2012 2:27 PM CST up reply actions  

it's kind of the blessing and the curse

we have a slew of spots where we need upgrades enough they could go for the best player available and we’d be better for it. Pretty much any first round-caliber playmaker at DE, DT, S, OG, OC or WR would make sense. You could even argue for an OLB if it’s a special guy.

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by August West on Jan 5, 2012 2:31 PM CST up reply actions  

Jeffrey

i think im in favor at the moment of a FA center and a 2nd round Guard. that means best available of DE, S, OLB, WR in the 1st. a 1st round guard better damn well be absolutely amazing from day 1, as they rarely start coming off the board til round 2.

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by hal41605 on Jan 5, 2012 2:43 PM CST up reply actions  

my online hesitation with a FA center or (epsecially) guard

is they seem to be really a poor salary cap value, generally. Too much money for a spot rookies can do well a lot of the time.

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by August West on Jan 5, 2012 2:48 PM CST up reply actions  

right but 1st round OG is poor draft value too

if it were a Pouncey level center, maybe. but there are lots big guards in round 2.

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by hal41605 on Jan 5, 2012 2:52 PM CST up reply actions  

conpletely agree

that’s one of the main reasons I don’t think we will go that direction, but I’ll be really excited if they do because it’ll mean they really see something amazing in whomever it is.

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by August West on Jan 5, 2012 2:56 PM CST up reply actions  

I wouldn't mind grabbing Jeffery at 20 and going G/C C/G in the 2nd and 3rd.

But you would have to either keep Amano at center, shift him out to guard, or bring in a FA. If Decastro is on the board at 20 it is hard to pass him up, but a Jeffery/ Britt/ All State combination could be lethal for Beck or Locker.

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by DuelDukes on Jan 5, 2012 4:34 PM CST up reply actions  

Also would like to say that I know we need a better pass rush,

but I am willing to give Morgan another chance to come through in year three, and maybe someone else steps up as well. I have no faith in anyone playing G or C on the roster so IMO it is the most urgent position of need.

At the same time, we have a history of success with late round lineman so I wouldn’t be upset to see us grab a DE early, as long as we get someone new on the OL because they have reached their ceiling…and it is as high as the floor.

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by DuelDukes on Jan 5, 2012 4:41 PM CST up reply actions  

Alshon Jeffrey at 20.

Please and thanks.

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by rsikes on Jan 5, 2012 2:33 PM CST reply actions  

a lot of these guys don't update their evaluations until the bowl season starts

I’m guessing McShay is the same way

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by August West on Jan 5, 2012 2:50 PM CST up reply actions  

Correction.

a lot of these guys don’t update their evaluations begin looking to others and starting the herd mentality until the bowl season starts. I’m guessing McShay is the same way.

The herd mentality among the talking heads leading up to the draft never ceases to amaze me.

by SuperHorn on Jan 5, 2012 3:32 PM CST up reply actions  

Also, speaking from a VT bias

I don’t know why David Wilson makes it on at 23, but Jayron Hosley is absent. I would think Hosley is the better prospect.

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by BonzosMontreaux on Jan 5, 2012 2:46 PM CST reply actions  

DeCastro but

Is anyone else really intrigued by the possibility of seeing a speed demon like Zach Brown (OLB) UNC playing opposite Ayers?

by CeolsigeWK87 on Jan 5, 2012 2:47 PM CST reply actions  

I agree on Spence. LBs from Da U usually don't bust and are willing to work for it

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by nolesbroncos3456 on Jan 5, 2012 3:53 PM CST via Android app up reply actions  

Maybe even a 4th or 5th for Spence?

Isn’t he a little on the short side? I don’t see there being much demand for 4-3 OLB of his stature. Outside of interior o-line and DE I don’t see another weak spot where it would be worth waiting around the for the middle of the draft for

by CeolsigeWK87 on Jan 5, 2012 4:21 PM CST up reply actions  

Where's trevor when we need him?

I want to know about these LSU linemen that are in the range we’re picking.

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by ronburgundy7427 on Jan 5, 2012 2:53 PM CST reply actions  

Its possible that some of them are overrated due to a terrific team defense overall.

I’d be much more comfortable taking a DL that was the only threat on his line than one where you can’t quite tell who was really commanding the attention.

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by BonzosMontreaux on Jan 5, 2012 2:56 PM CST up reply actions  

Fair point.

I just want to get to know the more highly-rated DL prospects as I think we’re going to go that way early.

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by ronburgundy7427 on Jan 5, 2012 2:57 PM CST up reply actions  

They are both sophomores

Montgomery could be a really good DE, but he’s not gonna be that premier pass rusher like Jared Allen, Osi, or someone like that. Especially when I see my boy Mingo tearing it up on the same team..he looks like Derrick Morgan this year compared to Mingo when it comes to rushing the passer. He is good vs. the run though…probably better than any of our DE’s vs the run already. Brockers is a beast vs the run. Just the thought of him lining up next to Casey one day has me salivating. But like I said, they’re both sophomores so it really doesn’t matter

by trevor2013 on Jan 5, 2012 4:04 PM CST up reply actions  

Hey, Bama folks.

Not that we’ll be looking at OLB in the first round, but how does Upshaw project as a 4-3 player? Could he get it done, or is he more of the pass rushing 3-4 guy?

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by TennesseeTyrants on Jan 5, 2012 3:14 PM CST reply actions  

Thanks for the unbiased responses, guys.

"Do the Titans have a miracle left in them in what has been a magical season to this point? If they do, they need it now. Christie kicks it high and short. Gonna be fielded by Lorenzo Neal at the 25; he dishes it back to Wycheck; he throws it across the field to Dyson. 30, 40, 50, 40, 30, 20, 10, 5, endzone...touchdown, Titans! There are no flags on the field! It's a miracle! Tennessee has pulled a miracle! A miracle for the Titans!"

by TennesseeTyrants on Jan 5, 2012 4:20 PM CST up reply actions  

Pac-12

Top 2 not to shabby and 3 in the top 10…we are so overlooked.

USC > UT (Both of them)

by SoCalTitan on Jan 5, 2012 4:20 PM CST reply actions  

So PFT had something to say about Casey that I enjoyed.

9. Jurrell Casey, DT, Tennessee Titans

There’s some chatter amongst the PF analysts that Casey may have already peaked in his role as running game nuisance. I looked at our Signature Stat that breaks down how many stops a defender makes in relation to the time they are on the field and Casey was third in the entire league. A great find in the third round.

Third in the entire GODDAMN league.

by FYNBYAC on Jan 5, 2012 5:47 PM CST reply actions  

yeah. what a suprise casey has been. rookie of the year contender.

Still amazed by this rookie draft class. Its amazing what new blood can do. Keep drafting defense and see if jerry gray can make them beast is my draft plan.

by CJ2K shrine on Jan 5, 2012 9:52 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Landry Jones is returning to OU next year

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