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Outside-the-Box: Why the Titans Should Draft Kellen Moore

Eye-catching title, right? I've always liked Kellen Moore. He's a highly accurate QB that produced enormous statistics in college. And that's why the Titans should draft him in a late round. Seriously. I know, I know, "THE LOCKER HATE HAS STARTED AGAIN!!11!!11" but nothing could be further from the truth. This has nothing to do with Jake Locker. I hope he has a lengthy career as an elite QB in Tennessee. This however, centers around the fact quarterbacks are the most valuable players in the league.

In D. Reese's post a few days ago, I recommended we look at some different and controversial roster moves. This is one of them. I'm aware that many will vehemently disagree with me on this one, and that's fine. My goal here to provide a different viewpoint on this idea, and at the least start some serious discussion. So let's get into the reasons why we should draft Kellen Moore.

[I'm aware that the Titans selecting Moore has about a 0.01% chance of happening, but I'm not Webster and my job isn't on the line.]

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Reason #1: QBs are the most valuable players.
Most if not all of us are high on Jake Locker's prospects. I am also a huge fan of Matt Hasselbeck's. I love our two QBs right now. Things change quickly in the NFL though, and one thing I'm certain of is that you can never have enough talented QBs. You'll never hear a team complain that they're overloaded at the position- at the least you can deal one for picks. Let me spin this forward a bit though, and since I'm playing genie I'll grant us our wish of Locker developing into a solid QB. So why should we look at Moore? Because you always want a backup you can trust. Hasselbeck will be that for at least one or two years, but after that its anyone's guess.

Reason #2: Kellen Moore under the right environment has a chance to be very, very good.
This past year Moore had a blistering 74.3% completion rate, good for a career rate of 69.8%. I know he played in a system that aids QBs in putting up above average stats. Quite simply, I don't care. A 74.3% completion rate is impressive, no matter what system you're in. He's also got a quick release and makes good decisions. At Boise he had a 5:1 TD to INT ratio. Let me put a hold on the Moore lovefest for a second, and go over his weaknesses. He has a weak arm. That's a fair assessment, but its also something I care very little about. Arm strength is continually overrated. It doesn't matter how far you can throw it if you can't hit a receiver. I thought this was particularly interesting, a comment from screen name ct17 over at Mocking the Draft:

There is no doubt that his arm strength will limit him in the NFL. But if you watch what he did at Boise State, he showed talent. It seemed like 8 different guys caught the ball every game. A common complaint about college QBs is their lack of progression through reads; Moore had no problem finding and throwing to the 5th read, even if it was a freshman TE in one of his three snaps in the game. And last year, he had no problem hitting Young in full stride on those deep throws that helped Young vault into the 2nd round.

I also have concerns about his transition to a pro-style offense. His best shot at success is to sit and learn the game a while, and that's why this pick makes sense for the Titans. Locker and Hasselbeck will be here in tandem for at least two years. Once Hasselbeck retires or moves on, Moore will have been our 3rd string QB for two years, and we can hopefully promote him to the position of Locker's Career Backup. Hopefully with all the practice time, Moore can iron out some of the issues in his game. That leads us to point 3...

Reason #3: Moore would make an ideal backup.
Due to his height and lack of arm strength, many believe Moore lacks the top traits needed to become a starter in the league, but that doesn't mean he holds no value. I feel like Moore would make the perfect backup if the team grooms him correctly. Why wouldn't you want an uber-accurate QB stepping in to run your offense if the starter went down? Even if you think he's got a terrible arm, the high accuracy and quick release are perfect traits for a game manager.

Reason #4: All reward...
If Moore pans out, you've found yourself a really good backup. Maybe his stock rises dramatically like Matt Flynn's. And if it doesn't?

Reason #5: There's no risk involved.
There is no pressure on the Titans that they absolutely, positively can't miss on this pick like there was last year. No one would expect anything out Moore. What happens if you draft him and he really, really sucks? Can't convert to a pro-style offense, struggles to adjust to the speed of the game? You cut him with no damage to the roster.

"But what about all those players you're passing up on?"

Let's look at our fifth round picks from the last 5 years: Karl Klug, Robert Johnson, Javon Ringer, and Antonio Johnson. We certainly have had some success here finding contributing players, so I wouldn't advocate for Moore to be selected in the fifth. Next up, our sixth rounders: Byron Stingily, Rusty Smith and Myron Rolle, Jason McCourty and Dominique Edison, Jacob Ford and Ryan Smith. We seem to have struck late round gold with McCourty (and I'd argue Ford too), but that shouldn't skew our opinion of sixth rounders. A lot of times they're cut without a peep from the masses. Finally, the Mariani round: Zach Clayton and Tommie Campbell, Marc Mariani and David Howard, Ryan Durand and Nick Schommer, Cary Williams, and Mike Otto. Everyone loves the seventh round, because every fan feels they've found that hidden gem. In our case, we've had success with Mariani and probably Mike Otto, and Cary Williams went on to start with the Ravens. Again though, you're going to get a fair share of guys who aren't even going to step foot on the field on game day. If Moore is available in the sixth or seventh rounds, the Titans really have nothing (or at least not much) to lose by drafting him.

So there's my argument. I wouldn't call it a particularly strong one, but I think its worth considering come draft day. For what its worth, this is not a Kellen Moore-specific principle for me. I would draft a late round QB every few years in hopes that he develops into a backup. This year, I think the QB that best fits is Moore. So what about Rusty and why would I want to move from him already? Wyatt said last year that Titans coaches 'knew what they had' in Rusty Smith. The coaches have changed, but if the Titans strongly believe he's the backup of the future, then no, you don't draft another QB. But if you have doubts (and I certainly do) that he can be a solid backup, I think we should start looking at late round QBs.

[NoMoreMoustache and I had a brief discussion on selecting Moore during MCM Radio, and while I had been doing some thinking on the topic, he was the first to publicly voice his support for this move, so I feel it necessary to point out. He deserves some credit for the idea as well.]

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I like Kellen Moore a lot and am definitely on-board with this

but I don’t think he will last past the 3rd round IMO

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by StPrattrick on Jan 31, 2012 8:50 PM CST reply actions  

That would be the flaw in the plan.

I really don’t see him being there in the 6th or 7th.

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by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Jan 31, 2012 9:02 PM CST up reply actions  

Although the principle applies to the other QBs.

If there’s another QB when our 6th comes up, and he boasts solid college production and completion rate, then I’m not opposed to selecting him.

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by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Jan 31, 2012 9:03 PM CST up reply actions  

Yeah I wouldn't see anything wrong with it, we kinda know what we have in Krusty

I’d be willing to give someone else a shot.
If Kellen was there in the 6th round, we’d have to get him. I would be amazed if he made it that far.

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by StPrattrick on Jan 31, 2012 9:05 PM CST up reply actions  

why they shouldn’t: Boise fucking State.

FTB! FTB! FTB!

nah this was well written and interesting, I’ll be bumping it.

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by D. Reese on Jan 31, 2012 8:57 PM CST reply actions   2 recs

I miss Blount... :o(

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by StPrattrick on Jan 31, 2012 9:06 PM CST up reply actions  

I love how the dude just falls down

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by rothbard on Feb 1, 2012 11:36 AM CST up reply actions  

He's got nothing after that

he just wants to go to sleep.

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by StPrattrick on Feb 1, 2012 11:41 AM CST up reply actions  

Even Funnier

What’s even funnier is Blount had no intentions of taking that helmet off and hit the kid with no helmet on.

by dailyminefield on Feb 2, 2012 11:10 AM CST up reply actions  

if you’re trying to say it was a sucker punch because Hount had no helmet on, he was also talking all kinds of shit by the looks of it.

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by D. Reese on Feb 2, 2012 11:22 AM CST up reply actions  

Honestly think this makes a ton of sense

Having an intelligent, accurate QB as a backup is a huge plus.

by fsucj2431 on Jan 31, 2012 9:00 PM CST reply actions  

I have to agree too with this

I would love to have Moore. But at the same time, love Locker. QB battle? Sure!

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by MikeGriffFan27 on Jan 31, 2012 9:14 PM CST via mobile reply actions  

I don't think there would ever be a QB battle...

but it would be nice to have an extremely capable back-up that would be trade bait in a few years

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by StPrattrick on Jan 31, 2012 9:21 PM CST up reply actions  

Yup

That Giraffaceptasourus or what ever the hell he is called ain’t doing us any favors. Waste of a roster spot, IMO.

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by JustinS on Jan 31, 2012 9:53 PM CST up reply actions  

Nice work WTF

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by Jimmy on Jan 31, 2012 10:40 PM CST reply actions  

Wow, thanks Jimmy!

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by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Jan 31, 2012 11:02 PM CST up reply actions  

Not sure if sarcasm, but still loled

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by Chris Colgan on Jan 31, 2012 11:30 PM CST up reply actions  

Ha, no sarcasm.

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by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Feb 1, 2012 9:04 AM CST up reply actions  

SHOUTOUT ON THE FRONT PAGE!!!

In all seriousness, I’m completely on board with this move. You elaborated exactly why. Picking Kellen Moore would be all upside and no downside. Is he a system of QB? Maybe. But he produced some insane numbers and if he pans out, great, if not, we lose nothing. I see no reason not to take him.

by NoMoreMustache on Jan 31, 2012 10:44 PM CST reply actions  

The first paragraph was confusing as hell

but the rest of the post was good. Nice post, WTF.

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by fanoftheunderdogs on Jan 31, 2012 10:46 PM CST reply actions  

I believe this quote signifies how important accuracy is over arm strength in the NFL…

“I don’t throw darts at balloons, I throw balloons at darts”- Joe Montana

I have always valued accuracy over arm strength when dealing with QBs. You can scheme around lack of arm strength, but you can’t scheme around lack of accuracy and timing in order to win consistently in the NFL.

With that being said, I absolutly love Kellen Moore and what he has done for that Boise State program. He has a tremendous football I.Q. and has a great understanding of his offense and where everyone is supposed to be. I disagree that Kellen would struggle with a pro style offense because that is what they run in Boise. Moore has such a mastery of the playbook and has such remarkable timing that he has the ability to put up those gaudy numbers.

The only thing that will keep Moore from becoming a starting QB in this league is his size. Moore has the footwork, work ethic, leadership, determination, and drive that is essential for a QB to succeed in the NFL, on top of his tremendous footwork and his release.

P.S. Great write up WTF. I’m really happy to see the increase in Titans fans this offseason on the MtD site. It truly is a tremendous site, and Dan Kadar and his fellow contributors do an excellent job at providing in depth analysis on colligate athletes looking to make the jump to the NFL. The coveerage dose not start at the end of the regular season either, it is a year round effort. For those of you who find the draft as intriguing and interesting as I do, MtD is the perfect place for you! Now I am not the only Titan fan who posts on MtD anymore :).

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by NJD28 on Jan 31, 2012 11:03 PM CST via mobile reply actions  

He throws the ball differently, not wrong.

He has a weird throwing motion, but it is not a hindrance to his play. In fact, he has a very quick release. Throwing motion is only of concern when it hampers your play, like Tebow’s. Having that big long windup hurts.

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by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Feb 1, 2012 12:12 PM CST up reply actions  

I agree with this.

There is no harm to having a better 3rd QB than Rusty Smith, as long as its the 6th or 7th round. Nice post.

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by BonzosMontreaux on Jan 31, 2012 11:14 PM CST reply actions  

Yes, but I swear...

If we have a Locker vs Moore QB controversy I’m going to- HRNNNNNNNNGH

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by fanoftheunderdogs on Jan 31, 2012 11:28 PM CST up reply actions  

6th or 7th would be completely fine with me.

But since we aren’t currently looking for a starting QB, I wouldn’t wanna spend anything prior to a 6th probably on him….

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by Chris Colgan on Feb 1, 2012 12:06 AM CST reply actions  

two words: Darron Thomas

maybe we’ll keep a former Duck this time around lol.

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by nolesbroncos3456 on Feb 1, 2012 2:52 AM CST reply actions  

I think Kellen Moore won't make it out of the 4th round

Simply because of everythiing you’ve just said. A team is going to be high on him, someone like cleveland/miami/washington/arizona who have a decent qb no-one brilliant and there might not be a guy there in the first round or free agency that can help them right now. So they get Kellen Moore in a mid round and hope he can be a long term solution or at least get good competition out of him in camp, but if he isnt it doesn’t matter.

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by alijeal on Feb 1, 2012 3:43 AM CST reply actions  

if we can get him with a 5th or 6th then sure

3rd string this year (sorry russ-man), and then our backup when hass retires/leaves after 2012.

by tdtommyd on Feb 1, 2012 6:38 AM CST reply actions  

NO

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by rsikes on Feb 1, 2012 6:57 AM CST reply actions  

You wouldn't want to pass up on the next Dominique Edison?!

I get what you’re saying, but the likelihood of finding the next McCourty remains low. Its highly unlikely we’re going to count on a sixth round pick to fill a major starter need, so I don’t see why Moore would be any worse of a pick than others.

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by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Feb 1, 2012 9:07 AM CST up reply actions  

Maaaaan... I still want to see what Dominique could do...

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by StPrattrick on Feb 1, 2012 9:18 AM CST up reply actions  

2 tds in a preseason game

victor cruz did that… (or did he have 3?..idk) and we see how he turned out

i did too

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by Ice0ne (CAJ) on Feb 1, 2012 5:59 PM CST up reply actions  

Lavelle Hawkins has also been really awesome in the preseasom

We see how he turned out too.

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by fanoftheunderdogs on Feb 2, 2012 2:16 PM CST up reply actions  

while I realize every pick is a huge gamble and hoping they pan out, I'd feel better

if we drafted a position that a little more of a dire need, preferably defense.

We need to draft someone who can sack Kellen Moore lol.

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by rsikes on Feb 1, 2012 2:16 PM CST up reply actions  

What do the Saints have to do with this?

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by fanoftheunderdogs on Feb 2, 2012 2:16 PM CST up reply actions  

i like russell wilson

but he will probably be gone in the 4th or 5th and i think we have other needs to fill at that point. if we take a guy in the 7th i wouldnt mind if they picked case keenum from houston. he has a lot of similarities to kellen moore as far as arm strength and playing in the spread offense so some of those same arguments would apply with him.

by jpalmer76 on Feb 1, 2012 7:20 AM CST reply actions  

Good stuff homie.

I’m all about this. I’d even be OK with it as early as round 4.

I also have concerns about his transition to a pro-style offense.

He runs a pro style offense now.

I do, however, think his arm strength is a legitimate concern. Of course, not enough to pass up a shot at a QB with gigantic upside in the middle rounds of the draft.

by SuperHorn on Feb 1, 2012 7:59 AM CST reply actions  

You and NJD brought this up. Clearly I have to watch more Boise film.

I guess I’m more concerned with his transition to working under center. I thought Boise operated primarily out of shotgun, but maybe I’m off on this too.

I would take Moore as early as the fifth round.

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by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Feb 1, 2012 9:08 AM CST up reply actions  

It's a run-heavy offense based on the power running game.

But, like many pro teams, they operate out of the shotgun a lot on passing downs.

The passing game relies a lot on the quick game, but it’s their run game that really makes the whole thing hum as they routinely gash opponents deep from play action looks.

by SuperHorn on Feb 1, 2012 9:31 AM CST up reply actions  

Good post, WTF.

I’m a Kellen Moore fan. It’d be great to have him as a back-up, if he could be had for a 6th or 7th. That said, as Pratt mentioned above, I can see him going as high as the 3rd and will most certainly be gone by those late rounds. Taking him any higher would almost assuredly start a controversy. Besides, would we want Jake to feel like he’s having to look over his shoulder already?

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by J3G77 on Feb 1, 2012 11:24 AM CST reply actions  

Nice post, and good points

But there’s no point in wasting a pick on this guy, simply because of opportunity cost. We have enough positions of need that we need to seriously address with the picks we have. Add to the fact, some other team will be high enough on him to draft him prior to the 6th. If we really feel we need to “groom” a BACKUP, pick one up undrafted. There’s literally no risk to that, and you’ve always got Rusty until one finds a diamond in the rough.

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by TitanNDCClothing on Feb 1, 2012 11:37 AM CST reply actions  

Re: Needs

This is why you wouldn’t take him high. You want to fill other needs. But if they’re relying on our sixth round pick to fill a major need, we’re screwed. Most likely whoever it is will spend the year on the practice squad.

I think its important to remember that not all backups are equal, and that’s what I disagree with you on. You argue we can pick up any UDFA and groom him and that’s true. What is left out is that most don’t have the unbelievable accuracy or monstrous college production of Moore. You don’t want to draft the QBs from the Florida Atlantics of college football. Moore was a big-time QB at a big-time program. The opportunity to land someone like Moore is rare. Accurate, productive QBs usually go much higher than the sixth.

Many have said Moore won’t be there for us, and I agree with that, but I want to add that Rang has him listed as a 6th-7th rounder.

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by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Feb 1, 2012 12:02 PM CST up reply actions  

Fair enough, I don't know much about the perceived tiers of college football.

I would like to know his record against BCS opponents. I’d imagine its still pretty good.

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by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Feb 1, 2012 12:19 PM CST up reply actions  

Moore was a big time QB in an irrelevant conference

And you inferred that I want our 6th round pick to go to a starter. Far from it. We’d be positionally, situationally, strategically, etc. screwed as a team if that were the case. At that point we want to pick future starters or shore up a position with depth (I don’t need to enumerate all the positions where we lack quality depth — they’ve been done over and over through mock draft analysis on MCM and elsewhere) not waste it on a pick that would ride the bench to potentially develop into a quality backup to potentially see time if Jake goes down. Bottom line: the opportunity cost of not using the later rounds for other needs far outweighs the potential benefit of Moore turning into a potential backup IMO, be it for a trade or quality backup time.

Nonetheless, you made a compelling point. Just not compelling enough given context.

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by TitanNDCClothing on Feb 1, 2012 12:28 PM CST up reply actions  

Re:
Bottom line: the opportunity cost of not using the later rounds for other needs far outweighs the potential benefit of Moore turning into a potential backup IMO, be it for a trade or quality backup time.

IMO, you’re too dismissive of the possibility of him developing into a starter. If he falls to the 5th round, I’d pull the trigger without hesitation.

It’s all about value. And, with a cerebral QB like Moore, I think you can quietly develop him in a backup role and potentially sell him at a higher value down the road. Think Matt Schaub, Kevin Kolb, Matt Cassel, or Matt Flynn.

by SuperHorn on Feb 1, 2012 1:18 PM CST up reply actions  

This;
I think you can quietly develop him in a backup role and potentially sell him at a higher value down the road. Think Matt Schaub, Kevin Kolb, Matt Cassel, or Matt Flynn.

is where his real value would be, aside from being a quality back-up

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by StPrattrick on Feb 1, 2012 1:19 PM CST up reply actions  

Basically, outside of Boise's one big game a year, he was racking up stats against teams of a lesser quality than most conferences.

It doesn’t mean that he can’t be good, but it does mean that it should all be taken with a grain of salt.

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by BonzosMontreaux on Feb 1, 2012 3:24 PM CST up reply actions  

Yes

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by TitanNDCClothing on Feb 1, 2012 3:33 PM CST up reply actions  

It is a two way street -- that's why it's an opportunity cost
It’s all about value.

And value should be treated the same way (i.e. not just what you’re getting out of it but what you’re foregoing relative to all the other players in the game -in this case, the other teams - and their respective preferences/needs).

I’m just not as high on this guy as others are and am, indeed, dismissive of his ability to be an NFL starter. Alternatively, I recognize the potential to develop him as a backup and potentially trade him. But, I think you could do the same thing with a number of other potential QBs at half the cost/risk by getting him undrafted. If QB were a bigger need immediately, I’d consider spending a pick on him. But we have other positional needs right now that trump that consideration, IMO.

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by TitanNDCClothing on Feb 1, 2012 1:51 PM CST up reply actions  

Re:
I’m just not as high on this guy as others are and am, indeed, dismissive of his ability to be an NFL starter.

This, and this alone is probably the disconnect.

Consider:
a) I think he can develop into an NFL starter
b) He could be available in the middle rounds

Without A, he obviously loses a ton of value. If that’s in place, though, presumably you can see the reasoning here. Regardless of other needs, the opportunity is too much to pass up. Of course, if evaluators don’t think that potential is there, then the value almost completely erodes.

by SuperHorn on Feb 1, 2012 3:26 PM CST up reply actions  

I don't disagree with you there.

I see the reasoning. And I liked WTF’s argument. I just can’t get on board with Moore, and much of that stems from the point above made by Bonzos.

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by TitanNDCClothing on Feb 1, 2012 3:33 PM CST up reply actions  

is it a double yellow line in the middle?

if not, people will hit each other on “Opportunity Street”

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by Ice0ne (CAJ) on Feb 1, 2012 6:03 PM CST up reply actions  

Definitely

I think this a good pick. Hasselbeck isn’t a hard thrower, but accurate. I think Locker is a legit QB and playmaker. But Moore can definitely be good in strectches.

by dailyminefield on Feb 2, 2012 11:11 AM CST reply actions  

Please take him!

I can just see the rest of the division praying for the Titans to pick Moore in any round!

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Here is an explination and some insight of the base of our new offense: The Run & Shoot
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Run & Shoot Offense
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A little Insight...
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The hybrid revolution and (Jerry) Gray
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Between the Posts, 5/24/12 - 5/25/12 Edition
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What the offseason will really mean to the Titans
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Kevin Matthews: Nepotism or Genetics?
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What Will Be The Titans Most Effective WR Lineup?
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