Tennessee Titans Free Agents: Lavelle Hawkins and Donnie Avery
by Jimmy on Jan 3, 2012 8:43 PM CST
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PrintSince we are now officially in the Titans offseason, it is time to start looking at some of the moves they will and/or should make in free agency. This year free agency opens at 3 PM central on March 13th. That is a little bit later than under the old CBA, but I like that it starts in the afternoon instead of at midnight now.
We will start by looking at the free agents on the Titans' roster by group. Tonight we are looking at the receivers. Lavelle Hawkins had his best year with the Titans. There was a point in the season where I wished the Titans would just go ahead and cut him because he couldn't seem to figure out the offense, but he came on as the season went along.
I wouldn't mind seeing The Hawk back on a 1-year deal with the idea that he will have to earn a spot in camp.
Donnie Avery was invisible until the last game of the season. The only way they are going to bring him back would be on a 1-year minimum deal, and they probably won't even end up doing that. I was excited about him when they brought him in, but it is pretty clear that he isn't the same guy he was before the injury.
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I know Allstate Nate is my guy but Dammit Im gonna miss you!!!!!!
CAW CAW FOREVER HAWK! CAW CAW FOREVER!!
Lemme See Your HANDS!
nah man, its too late, you abandoned him
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Abandoned no. I simply left him to grow. Like spartans train there children.
And he has blossomed. I am proud of my child.
Lemme See Your HANDS!
Sure ya did.
Tell the truth what stopped you wasn’t arizona laws! It was your Doubts!!!
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Avery is faster. Hawk this season showed while he may not be a red zone threat, he has good hands and is very shifty.
Which is what ive said about him all along. I think a 1 yr for hawk would be pretty nice at least for depth
Lemme See Your HANDS!
Hawk also came up in a regime that refused to use their prospects.
Hawkins was a first down machine this season. You haters need to give him his due.
he’ll never be a #1, but I’d take him as a #3 or #4 any day.
by NikoliVoltron on Jan 3, 2012 9:12 PM CST via Android app up reply actions
Agreed always at the right spot In cluth time
He knows the system so why change him and mess with our flow. Unless someone comes along that’s way better.
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by phxpurple on Jan 4, 2012 12:43 PM CST via Android app up reply actions
Hawk quietly had a good season compared to our other WRs
I didn’t know he did that well.
But Hawk does well when he’s on the field imo, i would love to see them both back in camp to compete with Preston, kirkendoll, and who ever else we may bring in
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Yeah I'm actually ok with both coming back on minimum deals.
Make them compete for spots in camp, and if they make it they’re going to be better depth than anyone else (pending early picks in the draft or higher-end FA signings).
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by ronburgundy7427 on Jan 3, 2012 8:55 PM CST up reply actions
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by Ice0ne (CAJ) on Jan 3, 2012 9:30 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
You know he's going to be so good when they give him a chance!
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Sbnation's scouting report on him
Assets
A huge target downfield, he has the speed, shiftiness and athleticism to make some plays. Possesses solid hands and great anticipation. Also uses his wheels as a return man.
Flaws
Is still learning. Doesn’t separate himself well on man-to-man coverage. Isn’t physical at all. Durability and intensity level are issues.
Career Potential
Good situational role player with upside.
Awards
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Ran a 4.6 on his pro day
just a tad slower then Britt and Cook.
Why the F- not?!
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by StPrattrick on Jan 3, 2012 9:36 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
Says he has speed though...
maybe he just has a bad first step, like Leonard hankerson has.
plus being 6’5 and being shifty is a gift right there
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Lead his division with 1700+ yards and 15 TDs
seriously though, he can’t be any worse then Hawk…?
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by fanoftheunderdogs on Jan 3, 2012 11:12 PM CST up reply actions
Get him on the active Rosta!!!
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by Ice0ne (CAJ) on Jan 3, 2012 11:47 PM CST up reply actions
If he ran a 40 at 130mph, then yes. Ghost of Al Davis.
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I like the idea of letting them compete for final receiver spot.
We’re likely to have 5 WRs, Britt, Washington, a new guy and Mariani are going to have 4 of the spots. So we won’t resign both. I’m not sure it matters much, because of the two of them unless we don’t add anyone they will be number 4/5 receivers and lets face it how often do we put 4-5 receivers on the field. When we go empty set we normally have cook or cj lined up out wide.
You forgot Damian Williams, who is coming back next year for sure
by NoMoreMustache on Jan 3, 2012 9:10 PM CST up reply actions
DWill is maddeningly inconsistent, but he by far has the most potential potential of those lower tier guys
by NoMoreMustache on Jan 3, 2012 9:17 PM CST up reply actions
You'd give up a third round pick with a lot of potential for an unproven 4th round pick?
by NoMoreMustache on Jan 3, 2012 9:20 PM CST up reply actions
You wouldn't get a fifth round pick for dwill.
For some reason draft picks have way more value than veterans. DWill’s gonna be fine, he just needs to be the #3 option in the Chris Palmer offense.
His YAC stats should be checked out b/c I thought he did a better job of that than any other receiver.
by NikoliVoltron on Jan 3, 2012 9:23 PM CST via Android app up reply actions
Yeah he's good with Yac, kinda like Lavelle is
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I did indeed completely forget about Damien Williams
So to be honest, niether of them make my team next season. Unless we drop a TE so we dont have 3 on the roster every week we really don’t have room for 6 Wr’s.
you may not have alot of 4 and 5 WR sets, but you have many different formations and packages for those formations
for different people, did you notice that our screen guys were mostly Hawk and Marc, with D-will getting a few.
You may have a tall package where KB, and Cook would be guaranteed to be out there.
Then a speed package where CJ, Avery, KB, and Cook wou’d be out there
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Mariani's like a modern Tim Dwight.
He knows how to return kicks and play hard, but he’s not going to be an effective receiver in the nfl. IMO he’s a #6 receiver on the roster at best.
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i kknow, but to be honest
he’s really only good at Punt returns, i’d rather see Hawk, Campbell, or Avery returning kicks
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Or like a mini Devin Hester...
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by fanoftheunderdogs on Jan 3, 2012 11:12 PM CST up reply actions
nah just a slower Hester with better vision
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by Ice0ne (CAJ) on Jan 3, 2012 11:47 PM CST up reply actions
you misspelled white
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by nolesbroncos3456 on Jan 3, 2012 11:51 PM CST up reply actions
I lol'd.
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by fanoftheunderdogs on Jan 3, 2012 11:52 PM CST up reply actions
hehe
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by Ice0ne (CAJ) on Jan 4, 2012 12:01 AM CST up reply actions
Now that's funny right there
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by Ice0ne (CAJ) on Jan 4, 2012 11:26 AM CST up reply actions
Both should be gone.
If I’m choosing between the two, I’d rather keep Avery. They are both crap, so at least take the faster one.
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by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Jan 3, 2012 9:28 PM CST reply actions
Hey!
My madden Titans roster loves both of those guys as kick returners and slot wide wrs.
but for some reason, Avery always gets hurt early
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I kept throwing the ball to avery
Last night on madden and he got hurt 5 times that I could count lol
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by AirMohawk on Jan 4, 2012 9:23 AM CST via Android app up reply actions
Yeah, thats why its frustrating, lol
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by Ice0ne (CAJ) on Jan 4, 2012 11:26 AM CST up reply actions
I really don't think Avery is that bad, he hasn't had a chance till the last game to play
and look what he does when given the opportunity. Can’t really say the same for Hawk, since it took him nearly all season to come around… Dwill is still garbage IMO
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wait………….Lavelle Hawkins and Donnie Avery aren’t that bad but Damian Williams is garbage?
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They are all garbage when stacked up against actual NFL receivers.
DWill less garbage-y. Avery fast garbage. Hawkins pure garbage.
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by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Jan 3, 2012 9:39 PM CST up reply actions
compared to The Green bay WR core
Our WRs other than Britt and Nate.
Aren’t even Garbage they are the Ground that the garbage sits on
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That's exactly my point.
I personally think Damian Williams has looked better this year. Then I watch other receivers on different teams and see that even with his improvements, he’s still not that good. I would consider him an average fourth receiver. Since he is currently No. 2 on the depth chart, that’s why we have issues.
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by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Jan 3, 2012 9:48 PM CST up reply actions
yeah man
agreed, he’s going through the Justing Gage phase…
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Unfortunately I think its a chronic condition.
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by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Jan 3, 2012 9:55 PM CST up reply actions
He's only in his second year, his first with any real playing time. Most receivers don't come on big until their third season.
by NoMoreMustache on Jan 3, 2012 9:56 PM CST up reply actions
I understand that, which is why Williams should absolutely stick on the roster.
But this is like the Britt situation. You can sit back and hope Britt comes back healthy, just like you can sit back and hope Williams has some crazy breakout year next year, or you can be proactive and add another receiver.
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by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Jan 3, 2012 10:04 PM CST up reply actions
I absolutely think we should be productive and add another receiver, but that's not really an indictment on DWill. I want us to have four very capable receivers, similar to the Green Bay model
by NoMoreMustache on Jan 3, 2012 10:06 PM CST up reply actions
Agreed.
Just saying, in those 4 receivers, Damian Williams most likely slots in at fourth. Then I would be fine with him.
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by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Jan 3, 2012 10:07 PM CST up reply actions
not the point, compare them to each other, it’s obvious Williams is the least-crappy of the trio. not that that means much, but there it is.
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How many wide open drops does Avery have VS Dwill?
Dwill is the only person I have ever seen get a concussion from getting hit in the hands…
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wait, Donnie Avery? he of the one catch on the season? after being targeted 11 freakin’ times in 8 games, I think we’ve seen about the extent of this guy’s production level.
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Not that I support Pratt in this argument, because I do disagree with him,
but Avery in his two first seasons had years of 674 yards and 589 yards before missing 2010. Williams has 219 and 592 his first two years. I think Williams is better, but it might be closer than you think.
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by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Jan 3, 2012 10:57 PM CST up reply actions
So I was a little more interested and pulled in a few more numbers.
FO ranked all the receivers (92) who received a minimum of 50 passes. Damian Williams was -27 in DYAR, Hawkins even worse at -51. They rank 82nd and 84th out of the 92 receivers. Their respective DVOAs were -16.5 and -21.4%.
Of the receivers with 10-49 passes, Avery had a DYAR of 10 (DVOA of -2.1). Ranked 25th out of those receivers. For fun, I looked up Avery’s DVOA in ‘08 and ’09. They are similar to Williams’.
Here’s the link. In short, they all suck.
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by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Jan 3, 2012 11:11 PM CST up reply actions
In short, they all suck.
Basically, this is the bottom line
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Wait until they see our 3 WR set
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Maybe if they are all focusing on one point of the field, it will be a tri-force of suck
and someone is bound to catch it?
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I had not even seen him on the field 11 times...
still… pretty small sample size, can’t really judge a dude production level off of 11 times. Nor should I be judging his production level off of one game.
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Avery > Dwill and Hawk
yes.
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by fanoftheunderdogs on Jan 3, 2012 11:11 PM CST reply actions
That was such horse shit.
I am fuming over that. That ref needs better glasses.
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by BonzosMontreaux on Jan 3, 2012 11:13 PM CST up reply actions
I had to switch the channel.
I couldn’t watch after seeing the owner of the Sugar Bowl, a judge, saying “Go Blue!” and gushing all over Michigan after that bullshit.
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by fanoftheunderdogs on Jan 3, 2012 11:23 PM CST up reply actions
Its just a heartbreaking way to lose a game, and now itll be on our poor 3rd string kicker.
And whats worse is they just glazed over it on sportscenter because “LULZ GO MICHIGAN”
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by BonzosMontreaux on Jan 3, 2012 11:26 PM CST up reply actions
Oh... Just noticed your profile says you're a Hokies fan.
Yeah. My thoughts exactly. What a screwed up way to lose a game.
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by fanoftheunderdogs on Jan 3, 2012 11:27 PM CST up reply actions
rough way to lose. how well do you keep up with their recruiting?
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I haven't kept up that much with it lately.
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by BonzosMontreaux on Jan 4, 2012 9:05 AM CST up reply actions
it wouldn't be the 3rd string kicker's fault if the other 2 didn't have the urge to imitate the best drunk kicker in history, Seabass Janokowski
he partied every day his entire time at FSU. The only kicker to declare early and still get picked in the 1st round. that’s how much of a badass he was
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by nolesbroncos3456 on Jan 3, 2012 11:56 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
The Raiders were called crazy for picking him, though.
Turns out they were just sane enough to get a ‘good’ crazy pick…
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by fanoftheunderdogs on Jan 3, 2012 11:57 PM CST up reply actions
yep if he had made that 76 yarder, that would've been crazy
he was close to making it, i think
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by nolesbroncos3456 on Jan 4, 2012 12:02 AM CST up reply actions
Yo
The ball moved as he landed out of bounds = no catch, i think you guys are just old
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by Ice0ne (CAJ) on Jan 3, 2012 11:50 PM CST up reply actions
Says the dude that posted 'GO MICHIGAN!' before any of this was brought up...
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by fanoftheunderdogs on Jan 3, 2012 11:52 PM CST up reply actions
Not hating, just saying. :P
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by fanoftheunderdogs on Jan 3, 2012 11:57 PM CST up reply actions
You hatin, but i'm just saying
lol, come on FOTUD, you didn’t see the ball move as he landed partially out of bounds?
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by Ice0ne (CAJ) on Jan 4, 2012 12:02 AM CST up reply actions
Nope. I didn't.
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by fanoftheunderdogs on Jan 4, 2012 12:03 AM CST up reply actions
Ahhh, you need some good contacts then
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by Ice0ne (CAJ) on Jan 4, 2012 12:14 AM CST up reply actions
I think that should be said for the referee... :)
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by fanoftheunderdogs on Jan 4, 2012 12:48 AM CST up reply actions
Except, it didn't.
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by BonzosMontreaux on Jan 4, 2012 9:06 AM CST up reply actions
it did
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by Ice0ne (CAJ) on Jan 4, 2012 11:31 AM CST up reply actions
You're right. It didn't.
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by fanoftheunderdogs on Jan 4, 2012 3:20 PM CST up reply actions
we need to keep.
All our wideouts
by datboybevans on Jan 4, 2012 12:25 AM CST via mobile reply actions
Still trying to figure out
why some of you are so high on Hawkins. He’s average.
Houston is just lucky the AFC south sucked so bad this year.
he's our shiftiest WR, i want him on KR returns
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by Ice0ne (CAJ) on Jan 4, 2012 11:33 AM CST up reply actions
he'd fumble. Mariani is still a great kick returner.
by -Erock on Jan 4, 2012 2:36 PM CST via iPhone app up reply actions
After giving Hawk 4 years to spectate here, we can't give Avery 2 years coming off an ACL injury?
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yeah next season i want us to compete for a playoff spot
i was ok that we didn’t get in this season because we were still rebuilding but next season we should be competive
I take hawk over avery
But personally I would like to see us invite kevin curtis back. I think he would have been big for us if he did not hurt his hand.
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