Don Banks 2012 NFL Mock Draft; Titans and David DeCastro
by Jimmy on Jan 27, 2012 1:29 PM CST
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Don Banks of SI.com has released a 2012 NFL Mock Draft, and he has the Titans taking David DeCastro, G, Stanford. Interior offensive line is obviously a need for the Titans, so it is pretty surprising that this is one of the few mock drafts that have the Titans taking a guard. Hopefully they can find their guard in free agency so they do not have to use this pick on a guard.
Click through the jump to see what Banks had to say about the pick.
The Titans need a pass rusher, too, so keep an eye on USC defensive end Nick Perry in this slot. But DeCastro figures to be rated too highly to overlook, and giving the draft's top-rated interior lineman to a team that needs help at guard just makes too much sense. Especially with the Titans being coached by a Hall of Fame guard like Mike Munchak.
Another reason they should not take a guard here is because this is a deep class of guards. They can get a really good one in the second round or later.
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Its a deep class for WR as well.
And, he had all the elite pass rushers going before our pick. Who else would you pick in that situation?
Ain't no time for hesitatin'
All you got to do is groove
by BonzosMontreaux on Jan 27, 2012 1:31 PM CST reply actions
Much easier to find a good guard than a dynamic receiver
Who would I pick? Two words: Al Shon
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The overweight one?
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by BonzosMontreaux on Jan 27, 2012 1:42 PM CST up reply actions
the skinny one, Bob Shon
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by nolesbroncos3456 on Jan 27, 2012 1:43 PM CST up reply actions
Yeppers
He will be a stud in the NFL. Book it.
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I could just as easily say "He will be a bust. Book it."
Its not like either of us really know. I know that assuming the draft fell out like this I’d have no problem taking DeCastro. I don’t need a sexy pick, just a good one.
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by BonzosMontreaux on Jan 27, 2012 2:14 PM CST up reply actions
I do know
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by Jimmy on Jan 27, 2012 2:53 PM CST up reply actions 3 recs
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by Ice0ne (CAJ) on Jan 27, 2012 8:38 PM CST up reply actions
Except you don't.
Ain't no time for hesitatin'
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by BonzosMontreaux on Jan 27, 2012 4:49 PM CST up reply actions
How?
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by BonzosMontreaux on Jan 27, 2012 4:54 PM CST up reply actions
Because he's a beast
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by Dynamic Dreadlocks on Jan 27, 2012 6:43 PM CST up reply actions
You are right.There has never been anyone that looked like a beast that busted.
How did i not see before?
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by BonzosMontreaux on Jan 27, 2012 5:04 PM CST up reply actions
Hopefully we've cleared things up for you
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by fanoftheunderdogs on Jan 28, 2012 11:29 AM CST up reply actions
I don't really like the "deep class for X" philosophy.
Mostly because, at some level, there’s an assumption that there’s an equal amount of talent among prospects. It’s not about the number of prospects that enter in the draft. It’s about the number of prospects in the draft that your personnel deem valuable. Until grading is completed, “depth” as measured by sheer numbers at a position doesn’t carry too much weight (IMO).
Were you not a proponent earlier this week
About basing part of your judgement on the first round pick preference on average number of depth at the position in a given round?
Or were you just mentioning it as an aspect of evaluation for discussion purposes?
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by TitanNDCClothing on Jan 27, 2012 3:06 PM CST up reply actions
Of course you base in on average depth
His point being, until grading is done, suitable depth is undefined
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I get his point
But someone was making the average depth argument earlier this week and I thought it was SuperHorn. My position is his stated above.
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by TitanNDCClothing on Jan 27, 2012 5:02 PM CST up reply actions
Re:
The post you’re referring to is here.
I obviously wasn’t very clear with that. Bonzos made a comment about depth of position, and it peaked my curiousity. So, I went through and made those calculations of players available in the first three rounds. I figured since I went through and looked at it, I might as well share it. But, as I said then:
Of course this alone shouldn’t dictate draft strategy, but it should be taken into consideration.I think that total numbers of players with early grades in the first three rounds gives a better picture than just sheer numbers at a position entering the draft. But, without thorough evaluations, it’s just a starting place. At this point, it’s not nearly enough to start defining draft strategy or make any reasonable conclusions about depth at a position.
Agree with you; it's just something to consider
Sorry to put you on the spot. I have a habit of “forcing” constructive debate.
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by TitanNDCClothing on Jan 28, 2012 7:19 PM CST up reply actions
I Agree.
If we’re sitting at #20 and DeCastro is there and he’s BPA, you have to take him. Plus, even if it is a “deep class for X” at whatever position, why wouldn’t we take the best at that position rather than a downgrade later on in the draft.
If DeCastro is the guy that vastly helps us get the run game on track while still protecting Hass/Locker, then he’s the guy you have to take, even though it isn’t the most splashy pick. We had a splashy 1st-rounder last year. Maybe this is the year we don’t have one to even it all out.
I'm pretty sure that he won't fall to us, so many teams above us in the draft need help inside their o line
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by TitanNDCClothing on Jan 27, 2012 2:20 PM CST reply actions
Ryan Tannehill at 6th overall?!?!?!?
But there’s a quarterback every year who gets pushed up the board in the pre-draft scouting process (see Ponder, Christian in 2011), and my early read is that Tannehill is the most likely candidate.
Clearly this guy didn’t watch any Aggie football this year.
Quarterbacks always rise to the top.
Tannehill to me looks like a terrible QB, but I think he’ll go in the top 15 when its all said and done. Though we’ll see what happens with his injury now.
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by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Jan 27, 2012 2:24 PM CST up reply actions
His performances in the 2nd half of games this year were astonishing.
Sorted by rating, he wasn’t even good enough to crack the top 100.
Oh you don't have to sell me on this one,
I’ve only watched one of his tapes and he looked dowright putrid. I thought Locker was inaccurate, I think my jaw hit the floor watching Tannehill.
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by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Jan 27, 2012 2:36 PM CST up reply actions
or any of the 100+ years before this one....heyoooo
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by nolesbroncos3456 on Jan 27, 2012 2:25 PM CST up reply actions
^Yes
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by TitanNDCClothing on Jan 27, 2012 3:06 PM CST up reply actions
And to think the constant debate was Newton v Gabbert for #1 ... lolololol
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by TitanNDCClothing on Jan 27, 2012 5:03 PM CST up reply actions
I would have been fine with taking someone else in the first and Dalton in the second, like the Bengals did
by NoMoreMustache on Jan 27, 2012 5:03 PM CST up reply actions
Me too
I was just glad that we were able to see beyond the media’s “expertise”
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by TitanNDCClothing on Jan 27, 2012 5:10 PM CST up reply actions
i wanted kaepernick
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by Ice0ne (CAJ) on Jan 27, 2012 8:47 PM CST up reply actions
Same but I thought he'd drop a lot further than the 2nd
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I wanted Mallett. He has a great arm.
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especially after all the coke
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And how that panned out:
Newton = Beasting
Dalton = Pretty good
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by fanoftheunderdogs on Jan 28, 2012 11:32 AM CST up reply actions
pocket awarness?
forget pocket awarness! I have a gameboy pocket!!!
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by Ice0ne (CAJ) on Jan 28, 2012 12:41 PM CST up reply actions
I would cry beautiful manly tears of joy if DeCastro is there at 20.
He is the best G in the class, and probably a top 10 talent (ya, I said it).
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by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Jan 27, 2012 2:25 PM CST reply actions
What if he is and they pass on him for Ingram?
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by ronburgundy7427 on Jan 27, 2012 2:48 PM CST up reply actions
and then Winni would pull a Byi'mfuglyandloveiten and drink on a boat
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I hate Byfuglien.
In his defense though, he was below the legal limit for the incident.
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by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Jan 27, 2012 2:56 PM CST up reply actions
join the crowd, it's a long list lol
I’m surprised the Jets owners didn’t bribe Bettman to have a Jet on the All Star team. Team Chara FTW
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by nolesbroncos3456 on Jan 27, 2012 3:01 PM CST up reply actions
I'd be ticked off.
Clearly there are a lot of situations where I’d say take this player over that player, or this guy over these two if he’s there, and we’ll play all those out in the coming months- but if DeCastro is there at 20, its not even a contest for me. I want him over everyone else.
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by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Jan 27, 2012 2:51 PM CST up reply actions
Have you ever seen DeCastro play?
I watched the bowl game and he looked bad, he allowed a sack, several tackles for a loss. Thats the only game I watched him play but I went from all in to a bit hesitant.
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by Deaconbrodie on Jan 27, 2012 6:59 PM CST up reply actions
I have watched two of DeCastro's games.
He’s a beast. Technically sound, talented, he has it all.
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by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Jan 27, 2012 7:21 PM CST up reply actions
I would go Ingram over DeCastro...Mercilus too. I've even seen Courtney Upshaw mocked to us. That would be amazing if we got that beast.
I would take any 3 of those over OL.
BUT if we get a top notch pass rush FA then I would be fine with a top notch OL in draft.
We need both…if we fill that with Draft and FA I would be happy.
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If they're stupid enough to do that, ron, I personally will drive to Nashvill...
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by titansfan4ever on Jan 28, 2012 11:00 AM CST up reply actions
I feel the same way.
We have like the best O line coaches and I can only imagine what they can do with a talent like DeCastro.
We do at HC.
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by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Jan 27, 2012 2:59 PM CST up reply actions
Why did our o line suck at run blocking last year?
Two words – pussy blocking.
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And you want Munchak to get in there to block?
My feelings on Munchak are simple and well documented. Provide him a player with at least some foundation of talent (like mid round picks) and he’ll get them to a high level (see Roos and Stewart). Provide him with guys that lack talent and skill, and he won’t be able to get much out of them (Velasco, Stingily). Part of that falls with Munchak- he needs to know he won’t be able to coach up every single player. If they’re just bad players, well he’s not a miracle worker.
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by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Jan 27, 2012 3:05 PM CST up reply actions
In reference to your comment:
he’s not a miracle worker
Maybe not, but he does rain down thunderbolts from the clouds!
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by TitanNDCClothing on Jan 27, 2012 3:10 PM CST up reply actions
Why not get a midround OL then? Why use our first pick on OL if Munchak can coach him up?
I’d much rather go BPA at pass rush.
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by Deaconbrodie on Jan 27, 2012 7:01 PM CST up reply actions
Because Munchak can coach up DeCastro to Hall of Fame status.
Seriously.
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by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Jan 27, 2012 7:22 PM CST up reply actions
I really want to believe that... so what do we do about having ZERO pass rush?
What would you do to address that?
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by Deaconbrodie on Jan 27, 2012 8:18 PM CST up reply actions
Free agency, or more likely, later round draft picks.
We still hold a pick in every round after the first.
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by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Jan 27, 2012 9:23 PM CST up reply actions
Dont we a compensatory pick in the 3rd and 4th?
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No, the Hasselbeck, Ruud and Graham signings pretty much ensure we don't.
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by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Jan 27, 2012 9:41 PM CST up reply actions
ruud and graham shouldnt
i mean Babin’s means we should get a top spot.. right?
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by Ice0ne (CAJ) on Jan 27, 2012 9:57 PM CST up reply actions
Not necessarily.
There’s this whole formula that takes into account players lost, players gained, salaries of each, performance of each and more. Babin had a great year performance-wise but salary-wise he didn’t have a huge contract and our signings cancel that out.
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by ronburgundy7427 on Jan 27, 2012 10:07 PM CST up reply actions
the whole system is a bigger mystery than the BCS anyway so who knows
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by nolesbroncos3456 on Jan 27, 2012 10:10 PM CST up reply actions
Yes
I have ZERO confidence in our pass rush…
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by titansfan4ever on Jan 28, 2012 11:02 AM CST up reply actions
For the love of Jebus
Please don’t draft a guard in the 1st round
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What if it comes down to DeCastro and someone like Perry?
Top guard vs. a DE who you’re not quite as sure how he’ll project?
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by ronburgundy7427 on Jan 27, 2012 4:53 PM CST up reply actions
Silliness, there will be hundreds of players left at the 20th pick ;)
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DeCastro for sure
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by TitanNDCClothing on Jan 27, 2012 5:04 PM CST up reply actions
Why?
He would be the BPA and fit a need..it is a perfect situation from my point of view
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by Deaconbrodie on Jan 27, 2012 7:11 PM CST up reply actions
Agreed
i’m one of the stupid people who want a WR in the 1st round
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by Ice0ne (CAJ) on Jan 27, 2012 9:01 PM CST up reply actions
I wouldnt mind taking Floyd if he fell that far... But other than that there gonna be no one worth taking with the 20th pick.
Jeffrey scares me….too many reviews say he’s too slow.
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people said maques colston was too slow
as well as shannon sharpe and anquan boldin
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by Ice0ne (CAJ) on Jan 27, 2012 9:40 PM CST up reply actions
DeCastro is not just any guard, dude.
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by titansfan4ever on Jan 28, 2012 11:03 AM CST up reply actions
For the love of Jesus
PLEASE DRAFT SOMEBODY TO FIX OUR INSUFFERABLY BAD GUARD PLAY!
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by fanoftheunderdogs on Jan 28, 2012 11:32 AM CST up reply actions
See, I can appreciate this.
You hated the line like everyone else, but you’re not bailing on fixing it now that it’s draft time.
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Yeah well, that's because it makes sense.
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by fanoftheunderdogs on Jan 28, 2012 2:42 PM CST up reply actions
For as much complaining as there was about how bad our line was all season...
You’d think we could get behind a 1st round guard.
“You can get good guards later!”
Yep, you can get good every position later. It’s not like every single position drops off after the first 36 players are picked aside from interior linemen.
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by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Jan 27, 2012 7:22 PM CST up reply actions
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by titansfan4ever on Jan 28, 2012 11:04 AM CST up reply actions
what about FA center
Scott Wells from Green Bay to go along with DeCastro.
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there's also Chris Myers, C....top C in league, take him away from the Texans.
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by Deaconbrodie on Jan 27, 2012 7:13 PM CST up reply actions
He is the top Center in the game.
As a zone blocker. I don’t think he would do well with a power blocking scheme that the titans employ
Well we may not have a quarterback yet, but at least we're not going to move to LA soon.
he was destroyed by the cincy NT
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by Ice0ne (CAJ) on Jan 27, 2012 9:03 PM CST up reply actions
In later rounds, I'm loving Lucas Nix.
Along with my obvious man-crush on Bruce Irvin.
I already can't wait for the draft to be over with ....
pre-draft discussion is probably the least productive “talk” we do on this blog.
None of us really know anything about NFL scouting/drafting because none of us have any experience with it (except all the senior bloggers and contributors know everything about every player without fault).
None of us have ANY effect on who the Titans actually draft. If we had a daily petition posted enormously all over the blog saying “Reinfeldt/Webster please draft _______” and it was signed by 50,000 MCMers every single day that would still not affect who they draft.
As soon as the draft is over everyone forgets about all these discussions and arguments in about 5 minutes and by the end of the day we’re all saying “This is awesome, these guys are great, oh boy the FO did a nice job”.
That being said I suppose for the die hards its fairly productive because you’ll actually know the players being called out during the NFL Draft. But that’s an awful lot of work, thought and energy for a day or two of entertainment.
For the Jake of argument ...
by BythePowerofMunchak! on Jan 27, 2012 6:54 PM CST reply actions
it is the offseason
we have nothing else to talk about…thats the problem with being an nfl fan, there is too much time between sesons
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I hate it too, but what else is there?
At least there’s no lockout
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(except all the senior bloggers and contributors know everything about every player without fault).
there are sources you know, it’s not like any of us jumped up on a soap box and claimed to know all there is to know.
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by BonzosMontreaux on Jan 27, 2012 10:03 PM CST up reply actions
Re:
(except all the senior bloggers and contributors know everything about every player without fault).
You said it man!
He's catching on.
[disclaimer: this poster has no idea what the hell he's talking about.]
I has a sad. Its name is Eugene Amano.
by fanoftheunderdogs on Jan 28, 2012 11:33 AM CST up reply actions
Wah Wah...Debbie Downer in the house.
Some of us love the draft….and discussion….dont rain on our parade.
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It's a little rediculous that people think we ahould draft a WR, G, C, S, or CB
In my opinion because we generated NO pass rush and still managed to win games and allow a respectable amount of points, which speaks highly of our secondary. Also, we managed to win games without a running game, which speaks highly of our pass blocking and receiving corps (Nate Washington for mvp). And just like Jimmy said, this class has a lot of talent at guard so we can get one in a later round.
by Lobotomyze on Jan 27, 2012 9:03 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Well said...I agree. Pass Rush should be number one priority.
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by Deaconbrodie on Jan 27, 2012 9:11 PM CST up reply actions
Wait...I just re-read your post...so which position are you suggesting we draft?
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by Deaconbrodie on Jan 27, 2012 9:22 PM CST up reply actions
Pass Rushing DE. it would help make our defense jump to more than average.
Plus a safety to replace Griffin and we just might be a top 10 D. I really like our corners.
by Lobotomyze on Jan 27, 2012 10:13 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Jarvis Jones and Alex Okafor are just two guys who are arguably much better than any of the pass rushers this year that should be entering next year’s draft. it don’t matter what order we go in to create this team, as long as we’re not in that “one player away” mode, we shouldn’t marry ourselves to a position.
we're gonna skate to one song and one song only.
If DeCastro is still there we will take him
I guarantee it. DeCastro is going to be great, and perhaps the greatest of all time at gaurd. I feel that if we “wait” on a gaurd we can be passing up on a golden opportunity to secure that spot for the next 12-15 years. The way our offense is set up, we need to protect the QB, and to assert that Leroy Harris, Jake Scott, or any free agent outside of Carl Nicks and Jahri Evans could fill that void with the same amour of skill and toughness that either DeCastro or Konz can provide is absolutely insane in my mind. Unless Alshon falls to us, DeCastro, Konz, or Barron will be the pick.
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by NJD28 on Jan 28, 2012 1:54 AM CST via mobile reply actions
Thank you!!
At least someone has some sense around here!!
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by titansfan4ever on Jan 28, 2012 11:12 AM CST up reply actions
I say we go DE or WR in the first. You just don't go lineman in the first. Not unless the lineman
is just impossible to pass up. Or if he is the best person available.
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