Why we should take a WR in Free Agency & Not the 2nd Round
by titanwarrior1 on Jan 24, 2012 12:51 PM CST
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PrintI have had enough of countless Titan Fans suggesting we still need to draft a WR, especially so early. Let me clarify why adding any of these Free Agents* would help us NOT wasting a pick on WR. I know some of you would be ecstatic seeing a WR's name pop up in the first two rounds. Adding defense now should be the main focus of every draft. Since most think Babineaux will be resigned, that still leaves holes of Griffin & Finnegan. Which is TWO starters on our defense. Some also suggest our pass rush is weak. We also almost allowed the most rushing yards in the NFL. Yet, there is still some of you that demand we need a WR! If we take a WR at #20 or #52 in this draft, he better be more talented than Britt...
There will be plenty of NFL WR's & RB's in the 2013 draft that we can take including Monte Ball. Here are all my reasons why we shouldn't be drafting WR (in rounds 1-5). I think I included enough players names below on this list to support my statement.
*Yes this is a possible list, as we don't know until April which half of these players will be available as all of their contracts have expired:
Marques Colston (NO has to resign Brees too)
Robert Meachem (NO will not resign both of these WRs; he has great deep threat ability)
Reggie Wayne (Def Resign, their other WRs are worse than ours)
Wes Welker (too injury prone to care about)
DeSean Jackson (PHI likes Maclin too much)
Dwayne Bowe (yes he is aging, but still good depth)
Stevie Johnson (BUF spent too much on their QB)
Brandon Lloyd (i believe STL will be the first team to draft WR this year)
Vincent Jackson (SD should pay up to keep him)
Mario Manningham (NYG has alot of lineman to keep at bay first)
TEs: Fred Davis, Martellus Bennett, John Carlson, Tony Gonzalez
G: Carl Nicks, Ben Grubbs
The rest of WRs:
Harry Douglas (ATL)
Roscoe Parrish (BUF)
Legedu Naanee (CAR)
Earl Bennett (CHI)
Roy Williams (CHI)
Andre Caldwell (CIN)
Jerome Simpson (CIN)
Eddie Royal (DEN)
Rashied Davis (DET)
Maurice Stovall (DET)
Bryant Johnson (HOU)
Pierre Garcon (IND)
Anthony Gonzalez (IND)
Jerheme Urban (KC)
Devin Aromashodu (MIN)
Bernard Berrian (MIN)
Greg Camarillo (MIN)
Deion Branch (NE)
Matt Slater (NE)
Domenik Hixon (NYG)
Devin Thomas (NYG)
Plaxico Burress (NYJ)
Derek Hagan (OAK)
Chaz Schilens (OAK)
Steve Smith (PHI)
Jerricho Cotchery (PIT)
Patrick Crayton (SD)
Braylon Edwards (SF)
Ted Ginn (SF)
Josh Morgan (SF)
Mike Sims-Walker (STL)
Micheal Spurlock (TB)
Donte' Stallworth (WAS)
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Counter point
Free agent Wide Receivers seem like a quick fix, but they rarely work out.
None of the top 17 wide receivers from this season (based on receiving yards) were free agent signings. In fact, the best season turned in by a wide receiver who was previously a free agent signing was …… gasp, Nate Washington.
A lot of what makes a WR good is his ability to understand the team playbook and connect with his QB. If you spend millions to sign a guy like Colston, then it will take time for him to gel with our system and his new QB. By the time he gets comfortable, he may be in his twilight years. Washington is a great example of this. While he isnt in his twilight years yet, it took him a lot of time to gel with his new team.
You forgot Wes Welker and Brandon Marshall, they have more yards and are previous free agent signings.
There haven’t been any really big WR signings in a few years, which is why you can’t really take the argument that the top 17WRs were not free agents. It seems that most of them (Top WRs) are either young, or are franchise players the team is building around. Just wanted to point that out.
by infinitystealth on Jan 24, 2012 4:42 PM CST up reply actions
they were trades
also, there were some bug free agent signings. Ochocinco, Sidney Rice, Steve Smith, Braylon Edwards, Roy Williams.
If you compare those guys stats the year before they hit free agency with the guys who are listed in this post you will see they are about the same.
It would be funny if we ended up with Devin Thomas
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Also I agree too many needs to go WR early
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Keyshawn:
“So this pick tells me they’re not gonna let Vince Young throw the ball.”
Precisely, Keyshawn.
A Guard/Center is the ONLY concern on offense....
a WR is only needed like last round! But keep dreaming for some star collegiate WR to be drafted first round as I will keep dreaming for world peace….wonder which side will win…
Except our WRs are full of fail...
but ok
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Our receivers
are a better group than any other group of receivers we’ve had in at least the past 7 years.
The bar isn't set low
I’m just looking at the situation for what is. We have more important needs than receiver right now. Therefore, we can’t hope for a big leap forward in the WR position this offseason. I’m trying to optimistic while being realistic.
by GoTitansGo on Jan 25, 2012 1:32 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Hmm, I still say they pretty much suck
We also had an actual QB for the first time in a long ass time
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This way we can draft 7+ CBs!!!
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if you read my entire article...
you would also be aware that we are possibly losing CB Finnegan, S Griffin, & S Hope (which no 1 will cry about). So yes we need at least 2 new members to add to our secondary. But keep wishing for WR
by titanwarrior1 on Jan 25, 2012 2:02 PM CST up reply actions
Hope doesn’t play, Griffin is easily replaceable. Finnegan will hurt, but it doesn’t matter who we draft, I’m confident he can’t be replaced by any of these corners.
we're gonna skate to one song and one song only.
Well, we could turn it around on warrior and say what about all the DB free agents out there this year...
Brent Grimes, Carlos Rogers, Brandon Carr, Tracy Porter, Terrell Thomas, etc.
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by titansfan4ever on Jan 30, 2012 9:59 AM CST up reply actions
If we take a WR before the 4th round
I will be disappointed in the front office. We have good recievers. If Kenny Britt stayed healthy all year our receiving corps would be solid and productive. Nate is fine. Damian has stepped up to a very good level. Britt is a beast who not only is spectacular, but increases the productivity of the other receivers when he is on the field. We only need to sign a decent receiver from free agency to have a complete and great group of receivers.
by GoTitansGo on Jan 25, 2012 10:45 AM CST reply actions 2 recs
Problems
Britt has never shown the ability to stay healthy
Yes, Nate turned out to be decent
DWill, sucks
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I don't know how you can say Damian sucks.
I remember a few touchdown catches this year that raised my eyebrows. He pulled in some impressive catches in some important situations. He is a second year player, and has progressed well in my opinion. Yes, he drops balls at times; but not enough to make him suck as a whole.
by GoTitansGo on Jan 25, 2012 1:36 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Ok, revision
DWill sucks the least out of WRs not named Nate or Kenny
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agreed
I never wanted the USC kid to begin with. We still have Marc 2 play 4th string WR!
Why can’t Hawk play WR #2 since Dwill sucks?
by titanwarrior1 on Jan 25, 2012 2:05 PM CST up reply actions
And Mariani worse than him.
From what we’ve seen.
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lets keep avery
hawk is good when thrown to
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by Ice0ne (CAJ) on Jan 26, 2012 11:02 AM CST up reply actions
I think D-Will and Hawkins just need a bit more confidence
Neither have been terrible, but not consistent either, so they should really drill the crap outta them, then draft like a 2-3 round receiver to get them in a sense of urgency… if somebody is threatening their roster spot I WILL PUT IT ON EVERYTHING THEY START TO PLAY BETTER
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So he's a solid number three receiver then?
/twistingyourwords
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by fanoftheunderdogs on Jan 27, 2012 5:08 PM CST up reply actions
He will be a solid #4 once we get another beast
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Surely the volume of receivers in free agency makes it more difficult to pick up a guy
What I don’t think has been mentioned, is that with all these players become free agents that leaves a ton of teams needing wide receivers. Which means more of these guys will get bigger money than they deserve because teams will have to compete for their signature. So the value simply might not be there at wide receiver, and I don’t see our front office paying a huge sum of money on a top free agent receiver.
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The first 8 guys (ignoring meacham) are all the top receiver on their respective team and if let go will need replacing
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MeachEm is still one of the best underrated WR's
in the league. He gets no credit because he doesn’t have Colston’s size. I would love to have him as a Titan & we can still draft G, S, DE, DT, LB, CB. LIKE WE NEED TOO!
by titanwarrior1 on Jan 25, 2012 2:01 PM CST up reply actions
i dont think their size difference has anything to do with it
Meachem is only 2 inches shorter and 10 pounds lighter. I think the reason Meachem doesnt get the credit Colston gets is because Colston is a better player.
There is a reason Meachem is the 3rd or 4th WR on the Saints, behind guys who have less talent like Devery Henderson and Lance Moore. Ask any Saints fan and they will use phrases like horrible work ethic, lack of maturity, sense of entitlement, fumble problems, poor concentration and CANT READ THE PLAYBOOK to describe him.
Don’t overvalue Meachem because he is a 1st round pick who came from Tennessee.
Good point
But still, not many players have like Meachem have stolen the ball after an INT from the defense and returned it for a TD…
If it is so easy to play WR in the NFL, then you go try…
by titanwarrior1 on Jan 25, 2012 4:38 PM CST up reply actions
...
what you’ve just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
by tdtommyd on Jan 25, 2012 6:23 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Sure...
Look at your statement. You mentioned the word “Rational” & “God” in the same context. Neither are relative.
I would never care for your points, even if my life depended on it. :)
by titanwarrior1 on Jan 26, 2012 1:36 PM CST up reply actions
Someone hasn't read their Aquinas
/yawn
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I agree that Meachem would be a good pickup to ROUND OUT the WR group
We DO NOT need a top teir receiver (if britt stays healthy he can be that guy) then we have 3 possession receivers (meachem, D-Will, and Nate) to go along side Britt. We DO NOT need a WR in the first or second round of the draft. Our QB sack statistics show that we need help along the D line and our rushing stats show we need help along the O line. Last year we put chris johnsons struggles on matt hasselbeck and the passing game and they carried us pretty close to the playoffs WITHOUT our top WR. Thats why im straying away from a WR the top 2 or 3 rounds
You have to look farther ahead than a single year
Having >1 great WR can’t be anything but good
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yes in 2013, I want RB Monte Ball, & every other year
after, there will be more WR prospects & more prospects.
But that doesn’t mean we will receive any RB/WR in early rounds in any future years….
by titanwarrior1 on Jan 26, 2012 1:39 PM CST up reply actions
Even with a jillion WRs I think the teams who make it far in the playoffs are the ones who run and play defense well
The exception being the Patriots, and this took like 2-3 one and dones in the playoffs before they had a soft enough opponent to beat
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by titanwarrior1 on Jan 26, 2012 1:37 PM CST up reply actions
Still.. my vote goes to
Laurent Robinson for FA WR
by PurpleSwirlyThings on Jan 26, 2012 6:24 PM CST reply actions
WR
I say let’s get one of the Colts WR’s. They won’t keep all three, we get better…they get worse.
I'm hoping we pick up a WR in free agency.
Then we can focus the early rounds of the draft on DE (since there’s a lack of depth prospect-wise there…at least from what I’m remembering) and such.
We definitely need to stock our draft board with linemen on both sides of the ball.
Adding a WR in FA wouldn’t hurt.
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by fanoftheunderdogs on Jan 28, 2012 11:27 AM CST up reply actions
I wouldn't go WR in the 1st rd either....
I’d get one in the 2nd rd. IMO, there will be some exceptional WR talent @ 52. We need DeCastro in the 1st!! Then, go CB/S in the 3rd…DE/LB in the 4th, etc.
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by titansfan4ever on Jan 30, 2012 10:07 AM CST reply actions
Joe Adams looked awesome in Senior Bowl...grab him in the 3rd. Stellar return man too.
Melvin Ingram, DE, in first, Zeitler, OL, or BPA OL in second.
http://i52.tinypic.com/2lxc75c.png
YES! Ingram >=< Barron
1 DE First @ #20
2 G/C @ #52
3 S @ #85
4 WR
5 ILB
6 TE
7 P
by titanwarrior1 on Feb 3, 2012 12:23 PM CST up reply actions
If Decastro, Coples, Merciless, and Ingram are off the board and Jefferies is there at 20
we snatch him and thank the football gods for a player that could be a top 10 receiver in 4-5 years.
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