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Off-Season Open Thread #2

The previous thread had plenty of activity, so we'll keep one of these up. Rec it to the top.

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when do they publish next season’s schedule? Or did they already?

by swells on Jan 24, 2012 10:47 AM CST reply actions  

I believe they do so in March or April

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by nolesbroncos3456 on Jan 24, 2012 12:17 PM CST up reply actions  

The off-season sucks.

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by StPrattrick on Jan 24, 2012 10:53 AM CST reply actions   2 recs

I hate off-season.

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by J3G77 on Jan 24, 2012 11:16 AM CST up reply actions  

It's early.

Not even technically the off-season yet.

by SuperHorn on Jan 24, 2012 12:33 PM CST up reply actions  

Even worse.

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by StPrattrick on Jan 24, 2012 12:43 PM CST up reply actions  

Are those the new terms for "QB" and "WR"?

Cause otherwise I have no idea what the hell you’re talking about…

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by ronburgundy7427 on Jan 24, 2012 12:36 PM CST up reply actions  

A little over 4 weeks until Daytona.

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by J3G77 on Jan 24, 2012 12:42 PM CST up reply actions  

this

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by sami426 on Jan 24, 2012 1:37 PM CST up reply actions  

yeah...

At least we don’t have Tim Thomas!

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by sami426 on Jan 24, 2012 1:40 PM CST up reply actions  

I heard about that

what was his deal? why did he skip out on the white house visit?

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by nolesbroncos3456 on Jan 24, 2012 1:42 PM CST up reply actions  

He's a known right wing conservative.

Does’t agree with Obama so he didn’t go. I think it’s retarded. If the president invites you, you go. It’s about respecting the office, not the person. I’m sure most athletes who were invited by Bush didn’t agree with his views, but they went. Total PR disaster by Thomas. Now the Bruins are shielding him from the media. When they play the Caps tonight, I have a good feeling Thomas won’t here the end of it. It’s just too bad I have class tonight so I can’t go and witness it first hand

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by sami426 on Jan 24, 2012 1:46 PM CST up reply actions  

hear the end of it*

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by sami426 on Jan 24, 2012 1:48 PM CST up reply actions  

Yeah that's what he said after the issue got so big.

I don’t think he expected so much backlash and felt the need to make a statement.

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by sami426 on Jan 24, 2012 1:50 PM CST up reply actions  

I don't buy that for a second.

If he is truly so anti-government, why is he classified as a “staunch Republican”?

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by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Jan 24, 2012 5:44 PM CST up reply actions  

I quite honestly have no idea who that is.

A Republican?

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by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Jan 24, 2012 5:49 PM CST up reply actions  

the fact that his is extremely conservative

is far less relevant than the fact that he’s a raving lunatic. he got so batshit insane even Fox News couldn’t deal with him anymore. he’s a bipolar rush limbaugh wannabe.

John Stewart did some phenomenal parodies of his trademark black board conspiracy theory rants.

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by hal41605 on Jan 24, 2012 5:52 PM CST up reply actions  

Yeah Glen Beck is the devil

He’s gone off the deep end.

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by StPrattrick on Jan 24, 2012 7:04 PM CST up reply actions  

damn, Thomas isn't starting in net tonight they're saying.

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by sami426 on Jan 24, 2012 1:58 PM CST up reply actions  

Woo!

Go Braves!

"Do the Titans have a miracle left in them in what has been a magical season to this point? If they do, they need it now. Christie kicks it high and short. Gonna be fielded by Lorenzo Neal at the 25; he dishes it back to Wycheck; he throws it across the field to Dyson. 30, 40, 50, 40, 30, 20, 10, 5, endzone...touchdown, Titans! There are no flags on the field! It's a miracle! Tennessee has pulled a miracle! A miracle for the Titans!"

by TennesseeTyrants on Jan 24, 2012 1:24 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

Go Yankees!!

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by nolesbroncos3456 on Jan 24, 2012 1:39 PM CST up reply actions  

Tigers just signed Prince Fielder to a 9 year $214 Million deal

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by nolesbroncos3456 on Jan 24, 2012 4:17 PM CST up reply actions  

Sooooo

Detroit wants to make another run. Well, makes sense…they’ve got the pitching, and now…a DH. I wonder if he’ll play 1st?

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by titansfan4ever on Jan 24, 2012 4:35 PM CST up reply actions  

V-Mart out for the year, guarantee he mans first for them.

we're gonna skate to one song and one song only.

by D. Reese on Jan 24, 2012 7:07 PM CST up reply actions  

I think it's safe to say the AL locked up the ASG and WS today

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by nolesbroncos3456 on Jan 24, 2012 7:51 PM CST up reply actions  

rec-a-roni. who’s ready for all the BSoTL* stories to start popping up???

*best shape of their lives

we're gonna skate to one song and one song only.

by D. Reese on Jan 24, 2012 7:06 PM CST up reply actions  

Less than an eternity until I care about baseball.

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by fanoftheunderdogs on Jan 27, 2012 1:40 AM CST up reply actions  

FYI, Senior Bowl practices will be televised again on NFL Network from 5:30-7 PM EST today

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by nolesbroncos3456 on Jan 24, 2012 11:30 AM CST reply actions  

FA talk...

I believe we’re not going to make any major signings. As much as we all want Mario Williams or a Carl Nicks, those are just not the kind of signings this team has done of late. I see the team waiting until a couple of days into FA once the madness has died down to go get someone like a Scott Wells, Cliff Avril and those mid-level players that can be effective but don’t break the bank. And if you’re wanting this team to sign a Colston or Bowe…start thinking smaller.

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by ronburgundy7427 on Jan 24, 2012 12:50 PM CST reply actions  

I would love for it to happen.

But think that even with the injury someone (Washington? Miami?) is going to give him a pile of money we aren’t going to want to go anywhere near. Maybe I’m just trying to set myself up now for another year of mid-level signings (not that that is a bad thing).

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by ronburgundy7427 on Jan 24, 2012 1:06 PM CST up reply actions  

Washington and Miami ruin it for everyone.

I think we could make a push for someone like Bowe or Williams, both potentially take our offense or defense to the next level.

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by StPrattrick on Jan 24, 2012 1:09 PM CST up reply actions  

The problem with both of those teams is ownership.

Both are incompetent and/or think money can get them a ring. Compared to those two I will take Bud Adams for sure.

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by ronburgundy7427 on Jan 24, 2012 1:10 PM CST up reply actions  

I have no problem with Bud Adams and actually enjoy him as a owner.

Old man crazy, but no Al Davis crazy.

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by StPrattrick on Jan 24, 2012 1:25 PM CST up reply actions  

Just maybe, he'll prefer a 4-3 team.

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by J3G77 on Jan 24, 2012 1:21 PM CST up reply actions  

That is what I am hoping for!

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by StPrattrick on Jan 24, 2012 1:25 PM CST up reply actions  

I think it's funny that Eli is going to as my Super Bowls as Pey Pey's been to.

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by StPrattrick on Jan 24, 2012 1:43 PM CST up reply actions  

No brady is not going to be winning the Super Bowl.

So its more of how will Peyton feel about his little brother winning in his house and passing him in SB rings and SB MVPs?

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by Titans_Firefighter on Jan 24, 2012 2:20 PM CST up reply actions  

no chance

giants are a significantly better team.

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by hal41605 on Jan 24, 2012 3:18 PM CST up reply actions  

There's always a chance (on any given Sunday...and all that stuff).

But when hal tells you to bet the farm….JUST DO IT!! Actually, I like the edge NY has just cuz of their D.

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by titansfan4ever on Jan 24, 2012 4:38 PM CST up reply actions  

honestly i dont see it

what can NE do to NY better than NY can do it to NE?

better pass rush, better running game, better QB vs. Pass D match up.

turnovers are really NE’s only shot. Brady cant handle consistent pass rush, Eli can. i dunno, I’m searching for a matchup where the Pats have an edge and I can’t find one. unless NE’s o line plays the game of their lives, i think this is a beat down waiting to happen for the Giants.

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by hal41605 on Jan 24, 2012 5:11 PM CST up reply actions  

This sounds cliche, but I don't think you can count out Brady.

While he won’t say it publicly, you know he wants revenge. Maybe that won’t matter, and, of course, I understand that just one guy doesn’t win football games. Still, the “Brady factor” at least gives them a chance.

by SuperHorn on Jan 25, 2012 7:25 AM CST up reply actions  

The will to win

not alot of players have that. Brady does though

by Indiana Titan on Jan 25, 2012 8:53 AM CST up reply actions  

well, I don’t know if there are any players who actually want to lose, but I see your point.

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by D. Reese on Jan 25, 2012 11:06 AM CST up reply actions  

no, im sure not, but

every now and then a special player will come along whos got that “it” factor, that will to win, Not many players i have seen in my generation. MJ had it, i believe brady has it also

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teeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeebow

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by alijeal on Jan 25, 2012 12:47 PM CST up reply actions  

and whoever that had Kellen Moore as draftable, he's currently killing his stock into UDFA territory today

it was brutal to watch him during the North practice.

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by nolesbroncos3456 on Jan 24, 2012 1:34 PM CST reply actions  

he has no arm strength whatsoever and mechanics are sloppy as hell

He looks like a Division 2 QB compared to the other QBs

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by nolesbroncos3456 on Jan 24, 2012 1:38 PM CST up reply actions  

Interesting, there was talk last year of him being a sleeper 2nd rounder.

So does this mean Chris Petersen is a genius for making him look good in Boise’s system?

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by ronburgundy7427 on Jan 24, 2012 1:47 PM CST up reply actions  

First things first, one bad practice does not make a bad draft prospect.

That said, I don’t think Kellen Moore has the baseline physical skillset to compete at the NFL level today. He’s not worth a high draft pick, IMO.

I think there’s potentially some good value if he falls to round 4 or later, though. His production and experience at Boise is phenomenal. And, despite what Mike Mayock wants you to believe, production does mean something, especially at the QB position.

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Oh his production is great and should count for something.

I haven’t seen any of this footage so really just going off the comment from noles, if it is true that his mechanics have looked terrible, what’s that say about Petersen and that staff’s coaching ability that he looked so good in college? That’s more what I was getting at than trying to shred Moore, I actually like him and wish him well.

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by ronburgundy7427 on Jan 24, 2012 1:58 PM CST up reply actions  

You also have to remember outside of 1 or 2 games a year, Boise doesn't exactly play a powerhouse schedule

Petersen is a great offensive minded coach. There’s a reason why his name comes up every year during coaching searches.

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by nolesbroncos3456 on Jan 24, 2012 2:03 PM CST up reply actions  

I think a team looking for a long term project would be wise to invest a 6th or 7th in him.

Like you said, the production matters. He’s got several hurdles to overcome, but I think he could develop into a nice little backup.

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by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Jan 24, 2012 5:46 PM CST up reply actions  

I think 8-9 mil/year is pretty fair honestly.

He’s very, very good but I don’t know if he should be up there with the Revises of the league in terms of money per year.

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by ronburgundy7427 on Jan 24, 2012 4:17 PM CST up reply actions  

He shouldn't

I say spend that $ elsewhere

by trevor2013 on Jan 24, 2012 4:22 PM CST up reply actions  

So let him walk entirely?

If he’s wanting more than $8-9 million a year, I agree. If 4 years/$32 mil gets him back, I’d be for it.

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by ronburgundy7427 on Jan 24, 2012 4:27 PM CST up reply actions  

He stormed out of that?!

What the?!!
I am over it. Let him walk.

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by StPrattrick on Jan 24, 2012 4:43 PM CST up reply actions  

Yeah..they were really surprised it was that much

Blaine Bishop said that he thinks he stormed out not because of the offer, but because of what the FO may have said to him during the meetings about his ability

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Did he elaborate on that?

Like what he thinks the FO said?

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by ronburgundy7427 on Jan 24, 2012 4:53 PM CST up reply actions  

No..he just said something along the lines of

“I’ve been in those meetings, and I can tell you they will say things about what you can’t do and it’s frustrating because you know you can do them..Blaine can’t tackle..Blaine can’t defend the run…” but as to anything specific that the FO said to Finnegan, no

by trevor2013 on Jan 24, 2012 4:56 PM CST up reply actions  

Interesting... it's a possibility

but they are throwing him top-flight money, leave the ego at the door and sign the check IMO

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by StPrattrick on Jan 24, 2012 5:00 PM CST up reply actions  

If he turned that down, no wonder we're letting him walk.

That’s more than I’m willing to spend.

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by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Jan 24, 2012 4:44 PM CST up reply actions  

That's what he calls insulting?

and he wants to make it like we’ve brought nothing to the table…
Gah, sucks… but I’ve let go.

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by StPrattrick on Jan 24, 2012 4:47 PM CST up reply actions  

What do you think would be fair?

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by ronburgundy7427 on Jan 24, 2012 4:49 PM CST up reply actions  

6-7 million would be tolerable for me. Assuming they feel he's not going to lose his spot to ATV anytime soon.

For 8-9 million you better be a shutdown corner and he is not. Revis is at 11.5/year, Asomugha 12/year. Finnegan is far, far away from those guys. I’m going to have to look up other CB contracts.

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by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Jan 24, 2012 4:59 PM CST up reply actions  

Others: (all per year numbers)

Charles Woodson 11
Stanford Routt 10.9
Champ Bailey 10.75
Jonathan Joseph 9.75
Asante Samuel 9.52
Dunta Robinson 9.5
Chris Gamble 8.92
Terence Newman 8.37
Corey Webster 7.33
Antoine Winfield 7.2

Off those I think the 8 per/year offered to Finnegan is absolutely fair. Webster and Winfield are on older deals, while Joseph and Routt benefit from NFL contracts becoming bigger and bigger. I would adjust my number to 7-8 million for Finnegan, though I have my doubts he’s worth that money. Of the guys on the list, how many actually are?

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by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Jan 24, 2012 5:10 PM CST up reply actions  

other names relevant to the discussion

Jay Cutler
Aaron Rodgers
Matt Stafford and Megatron
Peyton/Luck
Peyton/Luck
Schaub and Andre Johnson
Schaub and Andre Johnson
Roethlisberger
Tom Brady
Phillip Rivers

given that we absolutely need 2 new safeties and have no real pass rush to speak of, do we really want to let our best CB walk with that line up staring us in the face next season?

and whatever uninformed fans want to whine about re: his contract situation and his media comments/ “storming out”, he was chosen by the guys in that locker room as their defensive captain. that probably means something about the way his teammates view him as a leader.

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by hal41605 on Jan 24, 2012 5:22 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

I'm not going to overpay just because you're scared of the good QBs we face.

I look at that corner list and am more than ready to move on from Finnegan. Someone will hand him over the bank, and it shouldn’t be us.
I am much more prepared to sink money into the line than the corners.

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by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Jan 24, 2012 5:32 PM CST up reply actions  

Would this
and have no real pass rush to speak of

not be wiser of us to spend money on then?

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by StPrattrick on Jan 24, 2012 5:34 PM CST up reply actions  

we have lots of money and good drafters running the show

doesn’t strike me as an either/or scenario.

way easier to draft year 1 pass rushers than year 1 corners.

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by hal41605 on Jan 24, 2012 5:49 PM CST up reply actions  

I would say we'd be better on improving our pass rush, solidifying our safety positions, and helping out our O-line/WRs

then focusing a good chunk of money on one corner.
Plus, we have a boat load of other people we may or may not re-sign.
Where we differ is, I have a lot of confidence in our younger/up-and-coming CBs and you do not.

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by StPrattrick on Jan 24, 2012 7:07 PM CST up reply actions  

Routt also got the "Crazy Al" Raiders contract.

The conspiracy in me wants to say they gave him that money to spite Asomuga.

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by ronburgundy7427 on Jan 24, 2012 6:55 PM CST up reply actions  

Conspiracy theorist, rather.

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by ronburgundy7427 on Jan 24, 2012 6:55 PM CST up reply actions  

A few more things to note. For each player, I checked their D's pass yards against rank. The results:

Revis- 5th
Asomugha- 10th.

Woodson- 32nd.
Routt- 27th.
Bailey- 18th.
Joseph- 3rd.
Samuel- 10th.
Robinson- 20th.
Gamble- 24th.
Newman- 23rd.
Webster- 28th.
Winfield- 26th.

So for those thinking that Finnegan is the key to having a good secondary or not, (coughHALcough) I question that reasoning. In fact, if you look at the higher ranked pass defenses, they are the ones with strong defensive lines.

In fact, the top 5 pass defenses (Pitt, Cle, Hou, Balt, NYJ) have great defensive lines (I have no idea about Cleveland’s). So if we’re looking to shut down the QBs we face next year, our success is more likely to rely on our drafted DLs and FAs rather than Cortland Finnegan.

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by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Jan 24, 2012 7:09 PM CST up reply actions  

And I didn't even mention the strain on our cap by sinking so much money into one player, who's importance is at least questionable.

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by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Jan 24, 2012 7:11 PM CST up reply actions  

*whose

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by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Jan 24, 2012 7:11 PM CST up reply actions  

What was Finny's rank?

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by StPrattrick on Jan 24, 2012 7:12 PM CST up reply actions  

We had the 14th best pass defense, surprisingly.

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by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Jan 24, 2012 7:13 PM CST up reply actions  

He is a great corner, regardless of D-line play. There is no doubt about that...

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by StPrattrick on Jan 24, 2012 7:25 PM CST up reply actions  

I think he is very good.

I do not think he’s worth 9M+. For that price you might as well go sign Mario Williams.

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by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Jan 24, 2012 7:29 PM CST up reply actions  

My thoughts exactly

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by StPrattrick on Jan 24, 2012 7:40 PM CST up reply actions  

You're both on drugs.

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by fanoftheunderdogs on Jan 28, 2012 2:50 PM CST up reply actions  

So if we’re looking to shut down the QBs we face next year, our success is more likely to rely on our drafted DLs and FAs rather than Cortland Finnegan.

Yeah because defensive lineman are great at covering wide receivers…

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by fanoftheunderdogs on Jan 28, 2012 2:55 PM CST up reply actions  

How about we just cut all the defensive backs and have 11 lineman on the field every down?

Then we’d be motherf’ing UNSTOPPABLE!

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by fanoftheunderdogs on Jan 28, 2012 2:56 PM CST up reply actions  

Grotesque logic fail.

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by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Jan 28, 2012 3:05 PM CST up reply actions  

If you're referring to yours

then yes, I agree.

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by fanoftheunderdogs on Jan 28, 2012 5:19 PM CST up reply actions  

The logic that said a strong defensive line would affect opposing QB play?

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by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Jan 28, 2012 6:19 PM CST up reply actions  

The logic that said that a strong defensive line would make up for losing our best cornerback.

Unless that defensive line can phase through the opposing players, they’re not going to get to the quarterback every down.

When the QBs that Hal listed face the Titans, and they start doing quick throws to negate our pass rush, then we’re screwed, unless we have guys like Finnegan in the secondary that can negate the quick passes and shut down screen plays as soon as they start.

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by fanoftheunderdogs on Jan 28, 2012 7:13 PM CST up reply actions  

You place way too much importance on Finnegan.

He’s good, but the loss of him would be overcome with a better defensive line. I would argue the line was the weakest part of the D. Adding pass rushers in the draft or in free agency would have much more impact than signing Finnegan. For instance, in 2008 with a great line, our corners and safeties looked like Pro Bowlers. In the years that followed, our line got worse and so did our corner play.

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by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Jan 28, 2012 11:00 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm placing way too much importance on our best cornerback

when it comes to pass coverage?

You're totally right.

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by fanoftheunderdogs on Jan 29, 2012 1:55 PM CST up reply actions  

Not trying to refute the points.

Great way to debate things.

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by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Jan 29, 2012 2:03 PM CST up reply actions  

Yeah I totally haven't refuted your 'points' at
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all.

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by fanoftheunderdogs on Jan 29, 2012 5:58 PM CST up reply actions  

fuck Stanford Routt’s asinine contract.

we're gonna skate to one song and one song only.

by D. Reese on Jan 24, 2012 7:10 PM CST up reply actions  

Routt's just thinkin':

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by StPrattrick on Jan 24, 2012 7:43 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

Senior Bowl South practice is on now

damn they have a loaded front seven

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by nolesbroncos3456 on Jan 24, 2012 4:49 PM CST reply actions  

Oakland is hiring Denver's D-coord, Dennis Allen.

I’m stunned. I thought Winston Moss had that position locked up. Allen only has one year of coordinator experience, which was more than our current HC, but I think this is a really risky hire.

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by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Jan 24, 2012 8:05 PM CST reply actions  

Raiders + being stunned at something they do = normal reaction

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by Dynamic Dreadlocks on Jan 24, 2012 8:38 PM CST up reply actions  

Going to miss Oaklands round 1 picks in the next two drafts, they are always fun

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by alijeal on Jan 24, 2012 9:07 PM CST up reply actions  

Walterfootball has his new mock up tonight, some minor changes for us

20. Melvin Ingram DE South Carolina – would be awesome as hell if he fell this far
52. Brandon Washington OG/OT Miami (changed from Osmele, who probably practiced himself into the 1st round this week) –
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115. David Molk C Michigan – who? hey more OL help can’t hurt right?

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That don't look too bad.

Addresses our needs…in order (IMO).

by swells on Jan 25, 2012 5:08 AM CST up reply actions  

Ravens DC allegedly to become Colts HC...

It’s PFT quoting a source so take it with a grain of salt…

Link

IF this is true, I think that’s fantastic news for us. That defense is undersized for a 4-3 and has been running that “Tampa 2” for years, is he going to change it to a 3-4? If so, that’s going to require virtually a complete overhaul of their defense.

Secondly, I know Andrew Luck is a one-of-a-kind talent but there is something to be said for coaching still I think. Having a defensive-minded head coach certainly won’t hurt him, but his OC and QB coaches are going to be key.

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by ronburgundy7427 on Jan 25, 2012 3:25 PM CST reply actions  

How many people think Manning will be back in Indy next year?

I’m thinking his time is done. Not just his time in Indy, but maybe his career as a whole is over.

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by Dynamic Dreadlocks on Jan 25, 2012 6:07 PM CST reply actions  

However, Manning will make a great head coach for the University of Tennessee!

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by Dynamic Dreadlocks on Jan 25, 2012 6:07 PM CST up reply actions  

why would he take demotion from being the GM/HC of the Colts?

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by nolesbroncos3456 on Jan 25, 2012 11:05 PM CST up reply actions  

I guarantee he'll be the head coach of the University of Tennessee if given the opportunity.

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by Dynamic Dreadlocks on Jan 25, 2012 11:07 PM CST up reply actions  

Or even if he wants it, he'll probably get it.

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by Dynamic Dreadlocks on Jan 25, 2012 11:07 PM CST up reply actions  

I have never understood why people believe/think this.

Yes, I’m sure he loves the university and does a ton for it under-the-radar, but why would he want the stress of being a major college football head coach for much less money, when he could go into television and make a good amount with much less stress and work (not that he needs the money…).

Just as important, I think, is that he seems to be very aware of his legacy and that being an important thing for him. What if he were to go to UT as coach and bomb? Legacy tarnished.

I just can’t see it and think it is wishful thinking to believe he’d do it.

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by ronburgundy7427 on Jan 26, 2012 10:59 AM CST up reply actions  

Knoxville radio stations have had Archie Manning on a few times

and he says Peyton is definitely going to coach once he’s done playing football, and UT would be a great place to begin.

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by Dynamic Dreadlocks on Jan 26, 2012 12:16 PM CST up reply actions  

Tennessee would be a great lace to begin? not as a head coach it wouldn’t.

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by D. Reese on Jan 26, 2012 4:36 PM CST up reply actions  

Ask Archie, not me!

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by Dynamic Dreadlocks on Jan 26, 2012 7:53 PM CST up reply actions  

Re:
Yes, I’m sure he loves the university and does a ton for it under-the-radar, but why would he want the stress of being a major college football head coach for much less money, when he could go into television and make a good amount with much less stress and work (not that he needs the money…).

You basically said it, it’s not about the money.

Why would Elway be the GM of Broncos if it could tarnish his legacy?

I’d also point out that guys that uber successful like Peyton probably don’t give much consideration to the fallout from failure when they are making decisions…

by SuperHorn on Jan 26, 2012 12:50 PM CST up reply actions  

You're probably right.

I still can’t see it happening.

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by ronburgundy7427 on Jan 26, 2012 1:02 PM CST up reply actions  

I would LOVE to see Peyton back on the sidelines of Neyland stadium.

But based on his most recent interviews, I’ve gotten the impression that he’s very comfortable in Indianapolis, and he probably doesn’t want to uproot his family from there.

On top of that, he probably doesn’t want to jump into recruiting, etc. Just if I had to guess.

However, if he did it for anyone, it would be for Tennessee, and Knoxville would have a ticker tape parade if he ever came back here.

I would kill to see him join our offensive coaching staff as a QB coach or something similar and work his way up through the ranks.

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by TennesseeTyrants on Jan 26, 2012 2:31 PM CST up reply actions  

totally done in Indy

if Hass’s cap number is in the $7.5 mil range next year, it would probably only take about $8-10 mill more to upgrade to Manning. then let Locker do the Rodgers thing and try to win a super bowl in the next 2 years. would leave $15 mil+ to patch up the defense in FA, maybe bring Jeff Saturday along with him.

we have cap space, plenty of offensive talent, and the Titans would finally plant a flag in East Tennessee. he’d be worth 10 times what they pay for him in new merch sales, better attendance, more advertising, etc. and Bud could have a shot at winning a ring before he croaks.

just sayin’.

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by hal41605 on Jan 26, 2012 5:14 PM CST up reply actions  

I just stood up and applauded right here in my living room.

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by TennesseeTyrants on Jan 26, 2012 5:28 PM CST up reply actions  

I like it. Don't think it'll ever happen, and the thought of Peyton as a Titan is somewhat nauseating.

That said, it’d be well worth the risk. The risk being that Peyton is no longer able to play football at a high level due to long term nerve damage.

Problem is that I think Peyton’s ego thinks he’s got a lot more than 2 years in the tank, and he doesn’t seem interest in playing with a QB in waiting scenario.

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This is the best gif I've seen today:

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by StPrattrick on Jan 26, 2012 1:18 PM CST reply actions   2 recs

haha that's quality

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by sami426 on Jan 26, 2012 2:31 PM CST up reply actions  

Speaking of the Dolts and their skipbaylessbag owner Irsay, he opened his mouth again

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/7507255/indianapolis-colts-jim-irsay-upset-peyton-manning-manning-went-public-comments

What a giant tool

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by fanoftheunderdogs on Jan 27, 2012 1:37 AM CST up reply actions  

NFL.com fail
Bucs RB LeGarrette Blount protecting his legs by jumping overTitan S Devin Holland.

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by Ice0ne (CAJ) on Jan 26, 2012 10:06 PM CST reply actions  

Do want

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by Dynamic Dreadlocks on Jan 28, 2012 8:44 PM CST up reply actions  

Did you make this or are these real?

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by Dynamic Dreadlocks on Jan 28, 2012 9:00 PM CST up reply actions  

TWSS

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by fanoftheunderdogs on Jan 28, 2012 2:44 PM CST up reply actions  

guys i got some intel on Griffin tonight.

he’s just mehhh at bowling.

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by oshoney on Jan 29, 2012 1:42 AM CST reply actions  

He's just mehhh at everything

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by fanoftheunderdogs on Jan 29, 2012 1:56 PM CST up reply actions  

So a report from PFT says the Steelers are interviewing Jim Caldwell for OC...

I would laugh quite a bit if that one happened.

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by ronburgundy7427 on Jan 29, 2012 3:16 PM CST reply actions  

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by fanoftheunderdogs on Jan 29, 2012 5:58 PM CST up reply actions  

This is why hockey is so great:

Cats and Dogs living together, MASS HYSTERIA!

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Too much text and not enough image

True arrogance has been displayed here- WestministerRavensfan or something
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Glad I don't encounter this with the Droid

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by WreckNTexan on Jan 30, 2012 4:58 PM CST reply actions  

lol 2nd greatest website ever

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by fanoftheunderdogs on Jan 31, 2012 10:50 PM CST up reply actions  

OT: Best gif of the day

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by fanoftheunderdogs on Jan 31, 2012 11:03 PM CST up reply actions  

I'd buy a pair of those.

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by StPrattrick on Jan 31, 2012 6:46 PM CST up reply actions  

I'd buy those too

it looks like Nike used the Mercurial Vapor concept

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by fanoftheunderdogs on Jan 31, 2012 11:03 PM CST up reply actions  

Walterfootball has a new mock up with lots of changes for us

20. Cordy Glenn OL UGA (changed from Ingram, who goes higher)
52. Cam Johnson DE UVA (changed from K. Osemele, who goes higher)
83. Travis Lewis OLB OU (changed from Markelle Martin, who goes lower)
115. Ben Jones C UGA (changed from David Molk, who drops out entirely)

I’d be somewhat happy if it ended up being this way. I’d like a WR in the 2nd or 3rd though. Good draft overall

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I saw the designs for soccer jerseys of NFL teams

I don’t think these mean anything, but they are I’d totally spend the money to wear one.
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Sadly, no Titans design.

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Kinda stupid... but Soccer Jersey's are the best

I’d buy one.

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Mort:

“Peyton Manning medically cleared to resume NFL career, per sources.”

by trevor2013 on Feb 2, 2012 4:22 PM CST reply actions  

Irsay:

“Peyton has not passed our physical nor has he been cleared to play for The Indianapolis Colts. Team statement coming on Friday.”

by trevor2013 on Feb 3, 2012 6:10 AM CST up reply actions  

watch them keep Peyton and troll the world by taking Blackmon 1st

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