Offseason Open Thread
by SuperHorn on Jan 10, 2012 10:35 AM CST
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PrintWith things slowing down around here some, I thought a good, central open thread would be useful. Use this thread as a spot to discuss really anything. NFL Draft. Jake Locker's development. NFL Playoffs. Or, any (within reason) off topic subjects.
Maybe you've got an opinion that's longwinded, but not long enough to warrant a fan post. Post it here.
If this is something you'd all like to keep up, rec it to the top. If/when the thread gets too full, we'll get another open thread up....
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How 'bout that national championship game last night?
I didn’t go into the open thread for it.
Jommy isn’t about to turn this into a Bama blog is he?
"Do the Titans have a miracle left in them in what has been a magical season to this point? If they do, they need it now. Christie kicks it high and short. Gonna be fielded by Lorenzo Neal at the 25; he dishes it back to Wycheck; he throws it across the field to Dyson. 30, 40, 50, 40, 30, 20, 10, 5, endzone...touchdown, Titans! There are no flags on the field! It's a miracle! Tennessee has pulled a miracle! A miracle for the Titans!"
by TennesseeTyrants on Jan 10, 2012 10:38 AM CST reply actions
Agreed.
"Do the Titans have a miracle left in them in what has been a magical season to this point? If they do, they need it now. Christie kicks it high and short. Gonna be fielded by Lorenzo Neal at the 25; he dishes it back to Wycheck; he throws it across the field to Dyson. 30, 40, 50, 40, 30, 20, 10, 5, endzone...touchdown, Titans! There are no flags on the field! It's a miracle! Tennessee has pulled a miracle! A miracle for the Titans!"
by TennesseeTyrants on Jan 10, 2012 10:52 AM CST up reply actions
Just put in your other QB already, LSU.
Seriously.
"Do the Titans have a miracle left in them in what has been a magical season to this point? If they do, they need it now. Christie kicks it high and short. Gonna be fielded by Lorenzo Neal at the 25; he dishes it back to Wycheck; he throws it across the field to Dyson. 30, 40, 50, 40, 30, 20, 10, 5, endzone...touchdown, Titans! There are no flags on the field! It's a miracle! Tennessee has pulled a miracle! A miracle for the Titans!"
by TennesseeTyrants on Jan 10, 2012 12:13 PM CST up reply actions
I am finally watching The Wire. 2 episodes into Season 3.
Ranks right up there with FNL as best TV I have seen
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Have you watched Homeland?
I started it last weekend and finished the entire series in 36 hours. Excellent television. Highly recommended.
I´ll give it a shot. How many episodes/seasons?
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by criollo_pcg on Jan 10, 2012 10:53 AM CST up reply actions
Is it really that good?
I’ve heard good things, but it seems too new to be that good IMO
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by StPrattrick on Jan 10, 2012 11:11 AM CST up reply actions
Watch the first 3 episodes and see if you can stop watching the rest of the season.
To each their own, so I don’t want to overcook it. But, I enjoyed it.
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kidding, no… I will give it a shot.
I’ve heard good things, I am just really picky about my TV shows. Really hard to invest so much time into something that doesn’t pan out well… I.E. Game of Thrones for me. Sooooooo boring.
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by StPrattrick on Jan 10, 2012 11:25 AM CST up reply actions
So boring, I seriously don't get what I am suppose to like about it.
because there is nothing.
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by StPrattrick on Jan 10, 2012 11:30 AM CST up reply actions
I can see how it can be boring for some.
If you look past all the gratuitous violence and nudity, there’s actually a good plot with great characters.
I can’t get enough.
I think I need to go back and watch it, maybe.
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by StPrattrick on Jan 10, 2012 11:41 AM CST up reply actions
Books = much better
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Yeah, my buddy told me that I would enjoy the show a lot more after the books.
but that shit is weak, I want to enjoy the show for being a good show.
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by StPrattrick on Jan 10, 2012 11:41 AM CST up reply actions
Did you watch the whole season?
I thought it got better from the midpoint on. Too much going on I think to condense to a show. HBO has to fill it’s gratuitous nudity quota which leaves not enough time for the actual characters which is what it’s all about it.
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No I am up to episode 4 or 5 and just got too bored.
yeah HBO is going over the top with its gratuitous nudity, with that show and Boardwalk Empire (my favorite HBO show), sometimes its just taking away from the show.
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by StPrattrick on Jan 10, 2012 11:51 AM CST up reply actions
You're almost over the hump
Watching the first half of the season I could tell it was most likely gutwrenchingly boring for viewers that had no idea who anyone was. Too much back story narrative. The pace does pick up.
And all for T&A but it does become over the top when it serves no purpose other than, “ooo look what we can do on cable!” lol
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Alright! I'll finish it.
It’s not that I don’t understand it, I just don’t care about anyone this far into it. I figured the objective of a TV show was to pull the viewer in early. I just think it’s a little stupid to assume everyone should read the books before viewing the show to actually understand whats going on.
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by StPrattrick on Jan 10, 2012 12:24 PM CST up reply actions
Hey, rothbard have you read this?
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by Titanluv318 on Jan 11, 2012 12:01 PM CST up reply actions
icewind..
sounds like something i’d break haha
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by Ice0ne (CAJ) on Jan 11, 2012 1:08 PM CST up reply actions
No, but I've read the Pool of Radiance!
As far as D&D novels go the best were the main Dragonlance ones (back ’n the day)
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bahahahaa
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1-3 = epic awesomeness
4-5 = zzzzzzzzzzzzz wtf is going on?
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book 4 was hard to get through
havent touched book 5 because i don’t need to be doing any reading during football season.
did you see the new released chapter?
it’s up on GRRM’s website. pretty action-packed! giving the online community hope for a faster-paced WoW.
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not sure what your response means…
i can’t say much about the “Winds of Winter” chapter (book 6) w/o spoiling things. but it’s up there if you wanna read it.
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Just meant it will prob be 20 yrs until book is released
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by rothbard on Jan 12, 2012 5:36 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Audio Books> Physical Books
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by WreckNTexan on Jan 10, 2012 12:03 PM CST up reply actions
meh
I can see the appeal of them for people, but it doesn’t do it for me. I’m that asshole that wants to read paperbacks only and such. Though reading a novel on a kindle isn’t too bad.
I also like
the touch factor.
Yet when driving, or working out the audio is great.
Working out is best down with your mind and body, so while you listen to the book it requires the sugar needed to put your body into burn fat mode. Working out and listening to a mind challenging audio book has been proven to help your workout overall.
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by WreckNTexan on Jan 10, 2012 12:46 PM CST up reply actions
Re:
Working out is best down with your mind and body, so while you listen to the book it requires the sugar needed to put your body into burn fat mode. Working out and listening to a mind challenging audio book has been proven to help your workout overall.
This sounds like nonsense and/or only something specific to soccer moms endlessly laboring on the treadmill.
bahahaha
… what’s wrong with soccer?!
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its continuos kickball
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by Ice0ne (CAJ) on Jan 11, 2012 2:17 AM CST up reply actions
and kickball is awesome
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but not soccer
haha
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by Ice0ne (CAJ) on Jan 11, 2012 9:26 AM CST up reply actions
Soccer is the best
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the best at being boring
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by Ice0ne (CAJ) on Jan 11, 2012 11:19 AM CST up reply actions
Go to a Chivas game and tell me it was boring afterward
will.not.happen.
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by StPrattrick on Jan 11, 2012 11:23 AM CST up reply actions
the game doesn't interest me haha
I mean to me its like baseball, its only fun when you’re playing it.
but soccer is still… mehhh to me
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by Ice0ne (CAJ) on Jan 11, 2012 11:54 AM CST up reply actions
Too bad baseball sucks.
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by StPrattrick on Jan 11, 2012 11:57 AM CST up reply actions
yeah, i know
i played it for 5 years straight before football, i fell out of love with it.
Its just too slow paced
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by Ice0ne (CAJ) on Jan 11, 2012 1:09 PM CST up reply actions
I played when I was a kid
I got bored of it so fast though
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i know what you mean
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by Ice0ne (CAJ) on Jan 11, 2012 1:16 PM CST up reply actions
go to a Sounders game also
they’re crazy about them up there
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Lol I was going to say something like that
but had a rare anti-douchebag moment…. bwhahaha
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You doin' ok man?
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I feel off my game!
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n00b...?
this doesn’t seem right…
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God I hate that kids face.
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You won´t regret it.
Season 1 is incredible, but season 4 is just a masterpiece.
I watched maybe 6 months ago, and as I moved forward I kept thinking to myself, “why didn´t I watch this earlier!”.
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by criollo_pcg on Jan 10, 2012 10:50 AM CST up reply actions
Gah! That is what I hear from everyone... I need to just watch it.
Instead I am stuck watching GD MadMen because apparently my girlfriend has decided to put her foot down about the TV we watch…
The Wire is next though!
FNL?
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by StPrattrick on Jan 10, 2012 11:10 AM CST up reply actions
And now we know who the boss is at your house!
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by criollo_pcg on Jan 10, 2012 11:20 AM CST up reply actions
We had a huge yelling match between my girlfriend, my mother, and me
because I refuse to watch The Notebook…
This was all brought up because I made them watch Rise of the Planet of the Apes, which they liked.
Actually GG, my girlfriend brought up too when she “had” to watch Maximum Overdrive… haha thanks dude.
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by StPrattrick on Jan 10, 2012 11:27 AM CST up reply actions
Right there with ya on the Notebook.
My rule is usually if my girlfriend wants to go see a chick flick, she pays for tickets and snacks.
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by BonzosMontreaux on Jan 10, 2012 11:29 AM CST up reply actions
We have the AMC DinnerTheaters... maybe I'll start making her take me there for chick flicks
at least I could get drunk.
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by StPrattrick on Jan 10, 2012 11:42 AM CST up reply actions
That would probably be better, but sadly i live in a very conservative county.
Everything closes at 9 o clock here. So those would be out of the question.
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by BonzosMontreaux on Jan 10, 2012 11:43 AM CST up reply actions
Yea its a pretty dull place.
But, wherever there is work, I must be.
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by BonzosMontreaux on Jan 10, 2012 11:47 AM CST up reply actions
You need to move.
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by StPrattrick on Jan 10, 2012 11:52 AM CST up reply actions
If you'd like to donate to the cause, I'd be glad to.
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by BonzosMontreaux on Jan 10, 2012 11:55 AM CST up reply actions
You better start agreeing with me on some things around here!
then we can talk.
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by StPrattrick on Jan 10, 2012 11:57 AM CST up reply actions
I agree that I need to move!
Worth atleast a fiver, right there.
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by BonzosMontreaux on Jan 10, 2012 11:58 AM CST up reply actions
You agreed with me on Maximum Overdrive.
But you can’t bitch dude. My wife wouldn’t watch Maximum Overdrive if you paid her.
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It's not that I disagree, it's that she is using it as ammo to watch The Notebook.
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by StPrattrick on Jan 10, 2012 11:31 AM CST up reply actions
For my wife it was Kung Pow.
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by Titanluv318 on Jan 11, 2012 12:11 PM CST up reply actions
hahaha I had to watch The Notebook..
I earned a lot of credit for future needs. lol
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by criollo_pcg on Jan 10, 2012 11:34 AM CST up reply actions
I think I cashed in all mine already...
but she is so much more cooler of a person after watching all the good stuff I show her!! haha //kidding
///not-really
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by StPrattrick on Jan 10, 2012 11:43 AM CST up reply actions
James Van Der Beek!!!
/oops-wrong-show
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Amazing show, that finale is easily one of the Top 5 of all time.
I’m actually kind of disappointed a movie is in the works, that show wrapped so perfectly.
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by ronburgundy7427 on Jan 10, 2012 1:26 PM CST up reply actions
FNL is on the Netflix now right?
I like sitting down and watching a whole seasons worth of tv. I finally got to catch up on Arrested Development and I’m kinda sad I’m already in to season 3.
What the?!
I finally got to catch up on Arrested Development
You mean, i’ve been talking to you this whole time… and you haven’t seen all of AD?!… I feel sick.
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I apologize
It was always bits and parts before, but now I get the full effect watching it for 6 hours straight. Makes it funnier that way.
It breaks my heart that you never got to experience it in it's natural environment...
While Fox was trying to cancel it, even though it was winning nearly every TV award out there. “Is the greatest show you’ve never heard of!”
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Looking back, Motherboy was the 1st ep I saw
of course I wanted to watch more, but the show’s run was started in 03, and that was when I was graduating high school/starting college. got busy doing stuff.
Wow... 2003. Crazy it's been that long.
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There is some good news about an underappreciated comedy...
Read this week that ‘Community’ will be back this spring!
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What?!
Maybe not as consistently good as the second season, but some all-timers so far, the multiple-timelines episodes, the Christmas one that brilliantly skewered Glee. I even liked the Halloween one just for the character study.
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by ronburgundy7427 on Jan 10, 2012 7:58 PM CST up reply actions
I have never seen a single episode of AD
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*can't
ridiculous.
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Pretty sure the entire series is on there.
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by ronburgundy7427 on Jan 10, 2012 1:46 PM CST up reply actions
I hate nearly every character on that show.
except for January Jones, because she’s a fox.
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by StPrattrick on Jan 10, 2012 11:32 AM CST up reply actions
I tried getting in to watching it, but it never really stuck for me.
The only things keeping me around were January Jones and my precious,beautiful bride to be Alison Brie.
Alison Brie is in it?
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by StPrattrick on Jan 10, 2012 11:43 AM CST up reply actions
Ohhhh crap that's right!
Man I hate that Peter dude too…
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by StPrattrick on Jan 10, 2012 11:52 AM CST up reply actions
She is so boring, easy on the eyes but a terrible actress.
I enjoy it mainly for John Slattery (Roger Sterling), love watching him.
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by ronburgundy7427 on Jan 10, 2012 1:26 PM CST up reply actions
January Jones is probably one of the greatest actresses of our time!
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best tv show in the history of tv shows.
and i hate most tv shows
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by stetix01 on Jan 10, 2012 9:40 PM CST up reply actions
So, RC Fisher of Fantasy Football Metrics has a new post up on QBs.
Check it out here.
I generally like RC’s stuff. And, I can appreciate anyone who looks to evaluate things from a purely statistical standpoint. He’s been critical of Locker from the beginning. Really, I was in the same boat too. The guy just isn’t represented well statistically. But, to get the whole picture, you’ve got to breakdown his tape.
Not really going anywhere with this, just thought the article was worth a read. Here’s what he had to say about Locker, though:
-0.096 = Jake Locker…the jury is still out. We feel pretty confident, but we’ll see. Saying Locker was a bust, was almost as heretical as saying Gabbert was in early 2011…keep that in mind before you buy the media hype here.
Things like this seem ignorant to me.
There will never be a purely statistical analysis that can accurately predict success all the time. Sometimes it just seems like if you don’t have the knowledge/motivation to look at actual game tape of prospects, you just go pure statistics and bash anyone who looks at tape. The overall tone present is kind of haughty to me.
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by BonzosMontreaux on Jan 10, 2012 11:05 AM CST up reply actions
Technically, it's ignorant, as it is specifically ignoring certain things.
Still, I enjoy the perspective. It’s well thought out. Of course, it should be taken for what it is and in it’s own context.
I guess, but it doesn't need to come off so obnoxiously.
You can have statistical analysis and not think its the end all be all of prognostication.
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by BonzosMontreaux on Jan 10, 2012 11:36 AM CST up reply actions
How is Locker a bust in the least??
Stupid.
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by StPrattrick on Jan 10, 2012 11:28 AM CST up reply actions
I know, the progession he's made from college to now doesn't even hint at the sign of bust IMO
Aside from Dalton, he looked like the best passer coming out of last years draft.
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by StPrattrick on Jan 10, 2012 11:45 AM CST up reply actions
He looks great throwing the ball.
I still have some pretty serious concerns about the mental side of things (reads, progressions, etc). It’s not that I don’t think he can do them. I just haven’t seen them yet, which is normal for a rookie. That said, those things are necessary to take that step to the upper echelon of NFL QBs.
You haven't seen them yet also because he hasn't had much of a shot at playing against real coverages.
Though against the Saints i thought he played very well, even on the mental side.
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by BonzosMontreaux on Jan 10, 2012 11:52 AM CST up reply actions
Right*
because we haven’t seen them doesn’t mean they aren’t there.
They really haven’t had a chance to have a full game plan for Locker week in and week out… or a proper off-season at that.
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by StPrattrick on Jan 10, 2012 11:54 AM CST up reply actions
Yup. Totally agree.
Against the softer coverages, he’s had the luxury of going with the 1st/2nd read. And, the important thing to note is that he shouldn’t be faulted for that. He’s made great throws into tight windows and been very efficient. It also likely means that he’s making some pretty good judgements pre-snap.
But, to be a franchise quarterback, we’re obviously going to see more out of him. At this point, he hasn’t been in enough “normal” situations to draw any meaningful conclusions.
None of this should be taken as a negative. Just an unknown. I feel very good about our future with Locker.
As far as how he is progressing though I am very pleased to see he is pretty much on schedule.
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by StPrattrick on Jan 10, 2012 11:53 AM CST up reply actions
Where did they get these numbers from? I guess the past article?
It looks to me like they’re desperately trying to vindicate their pre-draft assessments in one year. Apparently, Colin Kaepernick is doomed to fail, even though he didn’t play this year. What’s worse is they used his preseason performance to justify their decision. Really? That’s lazy analysis.
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by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Jan 10, 2012 3:47 PM CST up reply actions
It's not typical analysis. It was a prognostication, and he's just updating on where every one is at at this point.
Think of it as his version of the 25-26-60 rule, only more complex. He found guys that fit his system and then posted the results last year. All his analysis is only based on college information. He’s not evolving an opinion as the prospect gives more information in the pros. So, if Locker pans out, he’ll just admit it. He’s done so regarding other prospects (DeMarco Murray) when they showed flashes in the NFL yet scored poorly in his system.
I wouldn’t judge him on just this one article. Read his other posts on the site. It’s really interesting stuff, even if polarizing.
Haha.
I’m in that really weird camp of evangelical Christians who still hate Tim Tebow. I might be the only one, actually.
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by TennesseeTyrants on Jan 10, 2012 11:14 AM CST up reply actions
Anytime Tebow is on TV not playing football, I just don´t watch it.
His interviews were the reason for my hatred.
Now, I can say I tolerate Tebow, and even wanted him to win against the Steelers.
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by criollo_pcg on Jan 10, 2012 11:22 AM CST up reply actions
Love the guy.
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by StPrattrick on Jan 10, 2012 11:29 AM CST up reply actions
Question
Are the titans one of the fastest teams in the NFL?Top 5? If not then who?
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The Raiders are the fastest, no doubt.
I can’t think of any particularly fast players we have, other than CJ, which was questionable this season even.
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by BonzosMontreaux on Jan 10, 2012 11:39 AM CST up reply actions
Maybe Philadelphia, with Vick, DeSean Jackson, Maclin..
"He's an amazing talent. He's probably the most explosive back since Marshall Faulk and Barry Sanders." - Eddie George, about CJ.
by criollo_pcg on Jan 10, 2012 11:40 AM CST up reply actions
I think all of Oaklands WRs are bad, but they are fast as hell.
People just forget because they never do anything worthwhile.
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by BonzosMontreaux on Jan 10, 2012 11:44 AM CST up reply actions
All things considered, I think Heyward-Bey finally looks like a good player.
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by criollo_pcg on Jan 10, 2012 11:58 AM CST up reply actions
I was thinking like number 5
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by Dynamic Dreadlocks on Jan 10, 2012 12:46 PM CST reply actions
Hmm, got me thinking now.
Would Fisher consider going to Oakland, since Turner saved his job by beating Oakland in the last game, maybe Fish would take a look at the west coast?
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Damn, it's TT overload out there now.
First NBC
Then Hitler
And finally CBS 
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by SiriusTitansFan on Jan 10, 2012 1:23 PM CST reply actions
Not gonna lie...I laughed when they did that in the post-game.
Generally not a fan of the forced humor on these shows, but that was funny.
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by ronburgundy7427 on Jan 10, 2012 1:29 PM CST up reply actions
I find all the pre and post game shows have waaaaaaay too much useless laughter.
Bill Cowher is seriously not as funny as these guys seem to think.
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by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Jan 10, 2012 3:48 PM CST up reply actions
I've always wondered
If I had a 2×4 board, and drew back and hit Cowher across his big ass chin with it, which one would break. I think maybe the 2×4.
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Draft thoughts...
I know the prevailing opinion here is that we have/need to go offensive line or WR in the first round, but I just can’t see it happening. I don’t see us using a first-round pick on someone not named Blackmon or Jeffrey (Floyd is going to have too many red flags), and despite what Munchak says I can’t see them bucking history and going offensive line in the first round.
Realistically I think this comes down to defensive line, or a shocker like CB. DL makes the most sense, if there is a pass-rusher DE to be had at 20 I think you absolutely have to take him. If we can get our line better, that will help the entire defense, just look at the Giants. I know there’s the whole “Surround Locker with better talent” argument, which is valid, but I just can’t see them going OL (based on recent draft history) or WR (based on talent available at 20) in the first round.
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by ronburgundy7427 on Jan 10, 2012 1:32 PM CST reply actions
What DL will be there thats worth it?
Coples scares me, and theres not alot of true 4-3 DE’s set to go early are there?
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by BonzosMontreaux on Jan 10, 2012 1:36 PM CST up reply actions
I could see them going DT, wouldn't necessarily be happy with it, but wouldn't surprise me either.
I haven’t gotten fully into draft mode just yet, and I think once underclassmen declare we’ll have a better idea of who could be available.
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by ronburgundy7427 on Jan 10, 2012 1:37 PM CST up reply actions
Meh on the DT.
I think we are pretty stocked at DT, we need a pass rushing DE big time.
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This makes me think we are alright
Tennessee defensive tackle Jurrell Casey is one of the defensive tackles: Casey went a long way to helping the Titans transition to a new style of defensive line and it be a success. Only three players made more defensive stops in the run game from the defensive tackle spot.
That with Klug/ (hopefully but probably not JJ rotation) or Marks, I think we are great at DT and would not want to take any time away from these guys progressing for a first rounder IMO
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More than that we need a true 4-3 pass rushing DE.
And those are incredibly hard to find coming out of college. Most of them are OLB/DE hybrids that could only be situational pass rushers in a 4-3.
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by BonzosMontreaux on Jan 10, 2012 1:49 PM CST up reply actions
Re:
Coples scares me, and theres not alot of true 4-3 DE’s set to go early are there?
But, we’re also not a “true 4-3” team anymore. I’d be just fine with a pure pass rusher ala Von Miller.
How are we not a true 4-3 team anymore?
Our DC specifically made an effort to have big DEs and DTs.
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by BonzosMontreaux on Jan 10, 2012 2:38 PM CST up reply actions
I think with the benefit of a full offseason that we'll see Gray showing more 3-4/hybrid looks.
Maybe not. That’s speculative based on some things he said last offseason (can’t seem to find the article).
I'd love to see it.
If we play a front four that looks something like: Morgan, Casey, JJ, rusher/versatile end then we would have the ability to run either a 3 or 4 man front without really changing personnel.
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by TennesseeTyrants on Jan 10, 2012 3:35 PM CST up reply actions
True, I think this is what Gray is after as well
You saw a little bit of it last year when he would drop Morgan/Ball into coverage at times…
I think if you want to see what type of defense Gray is probably aiming for, then look at Wade Phillips’ defenses. Wade Phillips is a “3-4” defense guy but he has a lot of 4 man fronts mixed in. It really depends on having an outstanding pass rusher at one end and a versatile rush LB at the other end. Think of the DEs/LBs that played for the Cowboys and Texans this past year (Ware, Spencer, Barwin, Reed, etc).
So, if you’re wondering who the Titans might target in the draft from a defensive perspective, then look at versatile DE/LB types that can rush the passer and set the edge with their hand on the ground but still have the versatility to drop back in a zone coverage to cover TEs/RBs in the flats.
by shawneriksmith on Jan 11, 2012 10:29 AM CST up reply actions
"based on recent draft history"
We had one of the most useful/productive drafts last year and it filled the majority of the needs we had based on the prior year. Mind you, we also drafted Byron Stingily, who I am still interested in seeing out there.
I think we can throw out the idea of prior draft history because from what we saw last year, we are drafting for much different reasons now.
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Perhaps...maybe I'm just too blinded by the lack of early offensive linemen picks.
The more likely scenario to me is a FA addition, a mid-round pick and keeping Amano.
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by ronburgundy7427 on Jan 10, 2012 1:41 PM CST up reply actions
I could see them believing in their abilities to coach up (maybe even a little too much)
and drafting a little bit lower then they should… but I am all for the idea of bringing in a new, big, talented center for Locker to develop with.
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Despite his getting pushed around in that playoff game, I'd make a run at Chris Myers.
Would rather have a proven young center than draft an unknown rookie. Then you can get away with grabbing a mid-round guard and shift Amano over too.
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by ronburgundy7427 on Jan 10, 2012 1:47 PM CST up reply actions
I trust Thor's eye for judging O-line talent more so then mine...
if he finds someone mid round, I’ll believe in him.
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I so desperately want an OL in the draft. DeCastro, or more likely, Glenn. Konz is a nice fit, but I feel like they want to make it work with Amano.
Regarding prior history, we’ve seen so many changes in the organization that it wouldn’t surprise me to see a first round OL. Plus, we are so desperate for linemen that we basically need an auto-starter. Going with a mid-round OL and hoping Munchak coaches him up is fine, but I wonder if that means he’ll be a backup for half the season.
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by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Jan 10, 2012 3:53 PM CST up reply actions
Seriously though, where is Byron Stingily?
I really want to see this kid play. I know he is extremely raw, but the dude is GiganticlyHuge
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He is at best probably going to be a career backup. If Munchak gets Stingily playing at a starter's level, I will never question any of his OL ever again.
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by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Jan 10, 2012 4:57 PM CST up reply actions
What's wrong with him that you've seen?
I haven’t seen anything on him is my problem.
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Nothing, but I don't want to place too much emphasis or hope on the notion Munchak makes something out of him.
He’s proven to craft players that have a baseline of talent (mid-rounders), but not even he can make something out of nothing.
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by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Jan 10, 2012 7:29 PM CST up reply actions
Stingily probably becomes our next Daniel Loper or Otto at best.
Utility guy who can pinch hit if needed, but doesn’t project as a future starter.
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by ronburgundy7427 on Jan 10, 2012 8:00 PM CST up reply actions
Oh yeah...
Ron..you asked about Montgomery and Brockers the other day and I said it didn’t matter because they were sophomores. I didn’t know that 3rd yr. soph.‘s were draft eligible, even though they’re 3rd yr soph’s. Montgomery is staying, but Brockers hasn’t said yet. He is an absolute animal, and I’m not being biased on this. Like I said that day…Casey lining up next to Brockers would have me salivating and then we really would be able to stuff the run like Gray promised
Where would he project?
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by ronburgundy7427 on Jan 10, 2012 8:01 PM CST up reply actions
rd. 1..top 20
MockingTheDraft linked a mock from SI today that had him going #8, but that mock is a little weird. He could definitely go top 15 though
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by nolesbroncos3456 on Jan 10, 2012 9:24 PM CST via Android app up reply actions
They shouldn't be.
Mularkey may have some question marks as a HC, but he was a darn good OC. From my SBN travels, I’ve discovered that no fans like their OC (unless you’re the Packers, Saints or Patriots).
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by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Jan 10, 2012 9:33 PM CST up reply actions
I'm conflicted.
He was pretty bad in his last HC job, and honestly seems like a ‘meh’ hire. However, his work with Ryan has got to be considered a success. Plus he used lots of short and intermediate throws in Atlanta, which is probably the only chance Gabbert has to be productive.
Doesn’t really scare me, so I’m good with it. I was holding out hope they’d go with Tucker as HC, but alas, he’s staying on as DC.
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by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Jan 10, 2012 9:31 PM CST up reply actions
like I said earlier, if I'm MJD I'm demanding a trade
Mularkey was so conservative that he could run for the GOP nomination. He ran Turner into the ground. The 4th and short calls were telegraphed QB sneaks every time, no sweeps or anything.
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by nolesbroncos3456 on Jan 10, 2012 9:40 PM CST via Android app up reply actions
The conservative calling is influenced by the line. Short passes aren't always bad things, contrary to what many people believe.
There was no way they were getting the 4th downs with sweeps or misdirections. Their line got manhandled on every single one of those snaps.
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by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Jan 10, 2012 9:44 PM CST up reply actions
its amazing how their OL went from one of the best to pure crap in 1 year
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by nolesbroncos3456 on Jan 10, 2012 10:17 PM CST via Android app up reply actions
kinda like ours?
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by StPrattrick on Jan 10, 2012 10:58 PM CST up reply actions
Ours kinda got gradually worse from 2008 IMO.
by infinitystealth on Jan 11, 2012 10:28 AM CST up reply actions
They were still at least decent last year
and then Jake Scott went full retard.
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by StPrattrick on Jan 11, 2012 10:34 AM CST up reply actions
yep, he finally came down to the level of Amano and Harris
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by Ice0ne (CAJ) on Jan 11, 2012 11:20 AM CST up reply actions
And you never go full retard.
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by Titanluv318 on Jan 11, 2012 12:50 PM CST up reply actions
His offense did recently get shutout by the Giants.
I didn’t find the playcalling stunning in that game.
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by BonzosMontreaux on Jan 10, 2012 11:17 PM CST up reply actions
Brian Schottenheimer is not returning to the Jets.
He’ll probably land an OC position, but I’d like to bring him here in some capacity. If Fisher takes Loggains, I’d bring in Schotty as QB coach.
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by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Jan 10, 2012 11:07 PM CST reply actions
I agree. Schotty has taken a lot of heat this year, but he still has a great track record.
I just hope that Loggains doesn’t go. Would love to have that consistency in the coaching staff just so it doesn’t hamper Locker’s growth.
by infinitystealth on Jan 11, 2012 10:26 AM CST up reply actions
What in Schottenheimer's career makes you think he is a good coach?
Is it Mark Sanchez’s lack of development?
The fact that the Jets offense is loaded with 1st round talent the last 2-3 years and yet ranked average at best?
I just do not understand this fascination with Schottenheimer…
by shawneriksmith on Jan 11, 2012 10:34 AM CST up reply actions
He was the QB coach of Drew Brees in San Diego.
I think he got the most out of Mark Sanchez, who was overrated going into his draft year.
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by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Jan 11, 2012 10:42 AM CST up reply actions
Compare San Diego Drew Brees to New Orleans Drew Brees
Brees passer rating in SD were 76.9, 67.5, 104.8, 89.2.
Brees passer rating in NO were 96.2, 89.4, 96.2, 109.6.
Brees didn’t really start taking off until he got away from San Diego and went to New Orleans under Sean Payton.
Just being a coach of an eventual great player is not good enough for me…especially considering his recent, poor work as the Jets offensive coordinator. Schottenheimer is an average coach, at best.
by shawneriksmith on Jan 11, 2012 10:51 AM CST up reply actions
He had a hand in building Drew Brees. The evolution we saw in New Orleans can be attributed to both Sean Payton, and also the SD staff that worked with him.
Clearly if you look at his QBR in SD, the last two years show something clicked for him.
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by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Jan 11, 2012 10:54 AM CST up reply actions
If you look at the QBs that Schottenheimer has coached
Either as QB coach or OC, then all of the QBs went on to have better years after they were no longer under Schottenheimer. Drew Brees, Chad Pennington, and Brett Favre all had below-career-average years with Schottenheimer. Add in Mark Sanchez, and I just don’t see how this guy can be considered a good coach.
The Jets offense has had 3 1st round picks on the offensive line, a 1st round TE, multiple 1st round WRs, and a 1st round #5 overall QB (and a previous HOF QB for one year), and he has been playing with a defense that is known for getting turnovers and creating short fields for its offense. And, the Jets offense has never been in top 10 for scoring.
Just having a “hand” in one QB’s hall of fame career should not make you a desired coach, especially since his recent history is just not good.
by shawneriksmith on Jan 11, 2012 12:03 PM CST up reply actions
The Favre descent was a result of him aging, not Schotty's coaching. That's not on him.
Drew Brees spoke quite highly of him, that’s a solid endorsement.
You’re only looking at the QBR for each QB and their years, but failing to recognize when each year was (ie. what type of QB he worked with). In Favre, age caught up with him. That was a mess. With Brees, he improved immensely in his final two years in SD. Just because he improved even more in New Orleans does not take away from the progression shown as a Charger. So when you say a QB like Brees got better after leaving, you’re neglecting to mention that you would expect a _ year veteran working with Sean Payton to continually improve as well, whereas Schottenheimer had Brees for years 1-4 in his professional career.
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by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Jan 11, 2012 12:14 PM CST up reply actions
Nobody ever speaks lowly of their previous coaches, really.
Just sayin.
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by BonzosMontreaux on Jan 11, 2012 12:44 PM CST up reply actions
Fair point, but if they didn't like the guy, they usually just don't say anything about him.
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by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Jan 11, 2012 3:10 PM CST up reply actions
Favre had a career year the year after he left the Jets (with Minnesota)
You keep making excuses for him…having one or two stints go bad is one thing but having 3 or 4 stints go bad is another.
I think there are many other offensive coaches out there that are much better than Schottenheimer…
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by Ice0ne (CAJ) on Jan 12, 2012 10:16 AM CST up reply actions
Anyone looked at neccessary roughness on
USA?
they should be starting up the 2nd season soon, but i liked it alot, maybe the usa website has episodes on there
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Dream offseason
Sign Avril, Myers/Wells, and Stevie Johnson.
Draft Glenn/Konz/DeCastro in first.
Draft a safety, upside DE, and LB in rounds 2-4.
I agree for most part except Stevie, has maturity issues.
Would rather get a Colston or a Reggie Wayne.
by infinitystealth on Jan 11, 2012 10:24 AM CST up reply actions
He should also be affordable after dropping clutch pass after clutch pass the last couple years.
I’ll pass. I’d rather deal with who we have and go round one WR next year than sign someone like him or Desean Jackson who make just as many boneheaded plays as they do big plays.
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Locker fumbles the snap;
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well kb used to drop them
and then you know what happened?
we hired a qb to be our wr coach, and everything was fixed ’:)
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by Ice0ne (CAJ) on Jan 11, 2012 11:31 PM CST up reply actions
Perhaps
I just really don’t trust either of their immaturity. I guess you could say the same about Britt, but I’d rather only have to worry about one boneheaded WR..
Locker has a receiver either side;
Locker fumbles the snap;
Picks it up, sprints out to the right;
Looking;
Fires deep downfield
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by SoMissTitansFan on Jan 12, 2012 1:41 AM CST up reply actions
I wouldn't be upset with Johnson being signed.
Granted, I’m not calling for that signing, but if it happened I wouldn’t hate it. Maybe All State Nate can give him some tips about holding onto the ball and not getting celebration penalties ;)
SI's Andrew Perloff has us taking DE Nick Perry from USC at 20
interesting
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Yeah, haven't heard of him the whole season, so I am not too sure to think of him.
But supposedly, he is very talented.
by infinitystealth on Jan 11, 2012 10:23 AM CST up reply actions
i don't like him, from the limited fil i saw
he’s like Capt Morgan, a run stuffer
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by Ice0ne (CAJ) on Jan 11, 2012 11:32 PM CST up reply actions
Walter has his new mock up also
20. Melvin Ingram DE South Carolina
52. Kelechi Osemele OG Iowa St.
83. Sean Spence OLB Miami
115. David Molk C Michigan
I’m happy with this except take out Osemele for a WR like Dwight Jones, Tommy Streeter, or some other name
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by nolesbroncos3456 on Jan 11, 2012 10:39 AM CST via Android app reply actions
This Walter guy...is it actually just some random guy named Walter who wanted to make a site?
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by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Jan 11, 2012 10:43 AM CST up reply actions
probably lol
considering its funniest draft site out there. walterfootball.com lol
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by nolesbroncos3456 on Jan 11, 2012 10:56 AM CST via Android app up reply actions
Also I really like this draft.
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by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Jan 11, 2012 10:47 AM CST up reply actions
Sean Spence = Swooooon
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by StPrattrick on Jan 11, 2012 10:49 AM CST up reply actions
I'm swooning too over Spence
it would be epic if Courtney Upshaw was picked @ 20 too
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by nolesbroncos3456 on Jan 11, 2012 11:03 AM CST via Android app up reply actions
I wouldn't really want to use our 1st pick on LB seeing how we have so many needs on both sides of the ball
but 3rd round Spence = Swoooon
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by StPrattrick on Jan 11, 2012 11:08 AM CST up reply actions
Upshaw would be a nice fall back BPA if our need players were off the board
much better than some random guy we haven’t heard of from a D2 school
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by nolesbroncos3456 on Jan 11, 2012 11:22 AM CST via Android app up reply actions
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by Ice0ne (CAJ) on Jan 11, 2012 11:53 AM CST up reply actions
I think the hiring of Grigson in Indy probably means the Caldwell Era is over.
That’s unfortunate.
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by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Jan 11, 2012 10:45 AM CST reply actions
Boo...
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by ronburgundy7427 on Jan 11, 2012 1:36 PM CST up reply actions
Mornhinweg a name to consider for the Colts job.
He’s a better version of Mularkey. Great OC, terrible HC in the past. Certainly would be a smart move to develop Luck though.
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by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Jan 11, 2012 3:46 PM CST reply actions
He had the post Barry Sanders Lions right?
great OC but with mind blowing mistakes as HC. Maybe it was him or the Lions being craptastic as usual.
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by nolesbroncos3456 on Jan 12, 2012 9:43 AM CST via Android app up reply actions
Meh, has had a serious case of the drops in the past
looks like he’s coming along though. I think he’ll want a big contract though.
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Luckily
the WR class for FAs is so good and deep, he may not be able to get the big contract he may want
He just doesn't seem like someone that would be an upgrade really... for the amount of money we would be spending.
To me he seems like a slightly better version of Dwill. I would not want to pay good money for that.
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i'll take victor cruz
i’ll trade them our duel hawks
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by Ice0ne (CAJ) on Jan 11, 2012 11:32 PM CST up reply actions
Dueling Hawks!
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Akimbo Hawks!
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by nolesbroncos3456 on Jan 12, 2012 9:36 AM CST via Android app up reply actions
Wrong, AkimboRobbyB
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by StPrattrick on Jan 12, 2012 10:02 AM CST up reply actions
no, robby b stays
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by Ice0ne (CAJ) on Jan 12, 2012 10:18 AM CST up reply actions
Raheem Morris is the DB coach with the Redskins.
Honestly it makes sense the more I think about it, he totally fits there.
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by ronburgundy7427 on Jan 11, 2012 8:26 PM CST reply actions
the more I think about it, I don't like having former HCs on the staff
the potential to backstab the head man for his job is there and it ruins chemistry between the coaches
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by nolesbroncos3456 on Jan 12, 2012 9:39 AM CST via Android app up reply actions
Jommy and trevor are sad today
LSU CB Mo Claiborne and Bama’s TRich +Kirkpatrick are smartly going pro, Top 20 picks all of them
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by nolesbroncos3456 on Jan 12, 2012 12:49 PM CST via Android app reply actions
in madden 12 on an online game i made this guy quit because i kept using the 46 inside blitz
(speed package) And Tommie Campbell had 7 sacks and a safety lol!!
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Are you using Campbell as your 4th corner?
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3rd
put babs as my 4th and put finny as my 1st SS
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by Ice0ne (CAJ) on Jan 12, 2012 7:09 PM CST up reply actions
What the?!
That’s all crazy talk.
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Obviously it is working well for you...
how does ATV and McCourt do?
Madden lets ATV get burned a lot because his speed rating is low for some dumb ass reason
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thats the only reason
usually presnap if i’m i move him back a few yards
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by Ice0ne (CAJ) on Jan 12, 2012 7:13 PM CST up reply actions
Who do you usually control when the ball is snapped?
I always go with D-line, typically Morgan.
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i'll either control the blitzer or Casey/ klug
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by Ice0ne (CAJ) on Jan 12, 2012 7:20 PM CST up reply actions
since they increased J-mac's speed he's usually good by him self in cover 0
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by Ice0ne (CAJ) on Jan 12, 2012 7:24 PM CST up reply actions
I am still bummed about ATVs speed... he really isn't that bad
and his closing speed is his bread and butter.
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yeah, but isnt his speed 89?
atleast it should be imo
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by Ice0ne (CAJ) on Jan 12, 2012 8:10 PM CST up reply actions
I think 88-89
still slow for a CB
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by StPrattrick on Jan 12, 2012 10:16 PM CST up reply actions
well yeah
but it used to be 86, and C Hawk’s is only 85 which i think is too slow for his 40 time.
and Mouton’s is 85, but he was a KR… odd
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by Ice0ne (CAJ) on Jan 12, 2012 10:25 PM CST up reply actions
Madden hates the Titans.
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by StPrattrick on Jan 12, 2012 11:09 PM CST up reply actions
Yep
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by Ice0ne (CAJ) on Jan 13, 2012 6:54 AM CST up reply actions
haha its doing me well though!
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by Ice0ne (CAJ) on Jan 12, 2012 7:13 PM CST up reply actions
Jeff Fisher is getting annoying
For the Jake of argument ...
by BythePowerofMunchak! on Jan 12, 2012 6:25 PM CST reply actions
why the hate for the guy? I personally respect that he’s calling the shots on his job, these teams need him more than he needs them. That’s why they’re waiting on hand and foot for them.
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It's not like he's making his decision on a 1 hour special on ESPN
And telling us about how he’s taking his talents to South Beach (or St. Louis).
He’s just considering his options, thinking over a decision. If anything is annoying it’s the absurd amount of coverage this ONE COACH is getting—coverage from MCM included.
If he’s on MCM’s collective nerves so much, why on earth do we keep talking about him?
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These are colors straight from our Current jerseys
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our WRs
We shouldn’t draft a WR at all, there’s too many holes on this team to waste a first rounder on a WR. I think we elevate Michael Preston and James Kirkendoll from the Practice squad and let them battle it out with The Hawk and Donnie Avery in camp and may the best men win. I did a scouting report on MP85 and I was very impressed with him at Heidelberg. He runs good routes, has good strong hands, is a smart guy as well as a smart player but, he doesn’t possess a quick burst, and his cuts aren’t as crisp as I would like them to be
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i put this in the comments for the links, but
http://www.profootballweekly.com/2012/01/13/c-amano-olg-harris-unlikely-to-flip-flop-positions
“Our sources indicate, however, that with so many needs on defense, it is more likely the club waits until the later rounds — as it usually does — to target O-linemen”
Wes Bunting:
“I’d take #LSU DT Michael Brockers over #UNC Quinton Coples, #PennState Devon Still, going to be top DL on my board easy”
Fisher is now the St. Louis Rams HC.
Whoop-dee-doo!
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by Dynamic Dreadlocks on Jan 13, 2012 1:02 PM CST reply actions
So I'm thinking of picking up a couple of PSLs
Worth it? LP Field need more beligerence?
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It's worth every penny.
When I was a teenager my parents had season tickets. I miss them so much.
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by TennesseeTyrants on Jan 14, 2012 12:34 AM CST up reply actions
I miss the tickets.
I live across the state from my parents, now, so I kind of miss them, too.
But not as much as I miss those tickets.
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Doooooo it!
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Been going for over ten years now, definitely worth it.
We’re a fun group…though personally I’m disappointed that the enthusiasm seems to have died down the past few years compared to when we first got tickets. To counter that though, we got tickets right after the Super Bowl run so the place was magical for those years after. Hopefully Locker and the young guys bring people back…and the economy turns back around. I feel like I saw a lot more opposing teams fans this season than I ever have.
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by ronburgundy7427 on Jan 14, 2012 3:00 PM CST up reply actions
FYI: underclassmen eligible for the draft that applied can pull their names out by Monday
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by nolesbroncos3456 on Jan 13, 2012 8:14 PM CST via Android app reply actions
the deadline is in and no one pulled their names out
a record tying 56 players filed paperwork (record set last year) and will stay in the draft
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by nolesbroncos3456 on Jan 16, 2012 9:03 PM CST up reply actions
Jaguars hired Bob Bratkowski as OC.
Another ‘meh’ hire.
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by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Jan 15, 2012 12:14 PM CST reply actions
Yeah that doesn't exactly worry me as far as Gabbert suddenly becoming much better.
I still contend that it doesn’t really matter who his coach is, at this point he is too damaged and showed a serious lack of instinct and pocket presence that can’t really be “coached”. Thank you, Gene, thank you for making the “right” choice at QB.
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by ronburgundy7427 on Jan 15, 2012 3:15 PM CST up reply actions
I'd like to thank Reinfeldt and co. for once again ignoring draft hype.
And staying away from that god awful prospect Gabbert.
here’s something to get the thread going again: music. whatcha bumpin to this offseason MCM?
more specifically, for those that know who he is, how do you feel about Tyler the Creator? some songs I really dig but others really leave me wanting a lot more.
we're gonna skate to one song and one song only.
I can't really mess with the Odd Future stuff aside from Frank Ocean
and ya know, there is Camp, Common and Jeezy have new albums out so they’ve been helping me keep active on the treadmill.
I just started listening to The Black Keys and Young the Giant too. They’re different from the normal music I listen too, but I like it.
I like Frank Ocean a lot too. you talking about The Real is Back for Jeezy? I have most of his stuff but that’s probably my least favorite for some reason. for workouts I listen to Yelawolf, Ace Hood, Tyga (Rack City is RIDICULOUSLY catchy), and Jeezy, for everything else, there’s J. Cole.
we're gonna skate to one song and one song only.
TM:103
Not as good as TM:101, but it gets me hype.
The Yelawolf cd is nice. Not as good as Trunk Muzik, but skip the filler songs and its solid.
And really? Ace Hood? (HUSTLE HARD, haha).
And Cole World was underwhelming to me. Not bad, but I don’t find myself going back to it often.
And I can’t hate either. Rack City is catchy.
I just never heard anyone say they listen to Ace Hood
I do like the Hustle Hard song though. I’ll look in to it more.
A little of this, a little of that.
Gov’t Mule is a mainstay.
JJ Grey and Mofro
North Mississippi Allstars
Some jazz, too. Joe Pass and Wes Montgomery mostly.
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by TennesseeTyrants on Jan 15, 2012 7:05 PM CST up reply actions
listening to Nas, Common, Lecrae, Trip Lee, and Lupe fiasco
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by Ice0ne (CAJ) on Jan 15, 2012 9:01 PM CST up reply actions
Lacrae
That’s a name you don’t hear a lot.
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by TennesseeTyrants on Jan 15, 2012 9:21 PM CST up reply actions
Most of what I typically listen to is rock based, both modern and classic.
That said, I can’t stop listening to The Weeknd’s mixtape’s. House of Balloons in particular keeps annoyingly getting stuck in my head. Definitely worth checking out if you like Hip Hop/R&B considering a) They are free (on The Weeknd’s website) and b) HoB has been acclaimed as album of the year by a number of different groups. Buyer beware, though, it’s pretty dirty.
I’ve also gotten into vinyl recently, which has really opened up a can of worms into older music.
Anyone looking for a new up and coming band should check out Local Natives. Their first (and only) album is excellent. Second album should drop sometime this year.
Yeah, it's solid stuff.
I can’t really get into Thursday as much. Echoes of Silence is good in parts, but, IMO, neither stack up to HoB.
Rams offered the OC spot to Brian Schottenheimer.
We get to keep Loggains!!!111
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by ronburgundy7427 on Jan 15, 2012 9:35 PM CST reply actions
did shotty take it?
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by Ice0ne (CAJ) on Jan 16, 2012 1:31 AM CST up reply actions
So, Smart Football has their most popular articles of 2011 up.
Link is here.
Every one of these is probably a must read for any football fan looking to educate themselves. So much of what I’ve learned from the X’s/O’s side of things comes from this website. Chris is, in my opinion, one the best writers in the country on the subject.
Bookmark this. Do whatever you need to have a reference point so you can go back to this list. The articles can sometimes be long, but these are all worth your time. Consider it MCM homework.
Nice find!
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by StPrattrick on Jan 16, 2012 12:29 PM CST up reply actions
I absolutely loved the article on the Snag, Stick, and Passing Triangle.
One of my personal favorites.
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by TennesseeTyrants on Jan 16, 2012 4:25 PM CST up reply actions
One of the things that I took away from a few of those articles.
Defensively, I want us to be more complex. Be able to throw a lot of different looks at teams, have players that can blitz and cover (like a rush ’backer), all things I think Gray wants to implement.
Offensively, I want an outside receiver to push Nate back in the slot. The article on offensive simplicity is on that rang true throughout the season for us. With the Britt loss, we had several players move up the depth chart and take on positions they weren’t equipped for.
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by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Jan 16, 2012 4:41 PM CST up reply actions
Just looked this up and found this interesting....
Following the draft of Locker, I really dug into his college tape to get a better grip on his accuracy issues. I came to the conclusion that a lot of it was circumstantial; a product of the lack of talent around him, superior opponents, and battling through injuries. Still, in the back of my mind, I wondered how things could look with a different QB in the Huskies system.
This year Washington started sophomore Keith Price. He blew Locker’s statistics out of the water in virtually every category. His completion percentage? 66.9 (vs Locker’s 55.4 – SR/ 58.2 JR). Threw twice as many TDs. Better YPA. Well, you get the idea. Link is here.
What does this mean? Nothing, I suppose. Obviously there are a handful of things that could have been at play here, and I haven’t had an opportunity to break down Price’s tape (nor do I intend to). That said, it does raise an eyebrow for me. Take it FWIW, but I at least thought it was worth passing along.
We all know Locker has accuracy issues...
the plus is, this year he definitely has looked like he’s improved in his footwork and decision making. He has taken large strides into fixing his previous problems, even though he’ll revert back to his old ways every so often, I am far less concerned about this then I was immediate post-draft.
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Can we consider that maybe Price came from a similar pro-style system before going to Washington?
I have no idea if he did or not, but didn’t Locker have some different system they were using before Sarkisian came in?
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by ronburgundy7427 on Jan 16, 2012 2:11 PM CST up reply actions
Also have no idea if that is relevant or not, just throwing it out there.
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by ronburgundy7427 on Jan 16, 2012 2:11 PM CST up reply actions
I don't really know.
Still, though, you’d think as a Senior that Locker would have a leg up on a RS-Soph, even if he was out of a similar system.
My hunch without watching hardly any of Price play:
- Price is sounder mechanically from the waist down on short/intermediate stuff.
- O-line play improved Year over Year.
- He has returning All-Pac 12 Running back and 2nd Team All Pac 12 WR.
It’s kinda hard to draw conclusions without watching the tape. I just found the disparity between the two pretty pronounced.
Locker said he was throwing it away a lot more his senior year as well
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Keith Price has had me concerned about Jake Locker for about the past few months.
The fact he’s stepped in and had much more success is not a good sign.
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by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Jan 16, 2012 4:20 PM CST up reply actions
It actually doesn't mean anything
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That's BS.
People looked at Gabbert’s lack of success relative to the other Missouri QBs that went to the draft to form their opinion on him. Now, we’re looking at a QB who came one year later than Locker, has very similar players around him, and the same coaching staff.
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by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Jan 17, 2012 10:44 AM CST up reply actions
I wouldn't say similar players
The offensive line was different (no shuffling around), the WRs/RBs had another year of experience in the offensive system, Price had actual TEs to throw to, and they had a younger RB to aid Polk in the run game.
Plus, I was one who didn’t necessarily look at Gabbert’s stats but did look at how he played at Missouri…even then, you could see how little pocket presence he had. I just don’t think you can coach that out of a player, similar to Kyle Boller.
Here’s a youtube video of what I mean for Gabbert (and compare it to Locker’s pocket presence):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XW69HWngSdk
Jake Locker:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZchE4x7zlE
Locker steps up into the pocket, Gabbert does not.
by shawneriksmith on Jan 17, 2012 11:42 AM CST up reply actions
I think the difference between Daniel and Gabbert is significantly bigger than the difference between Price and Locker just off the top of my head. besides, it’d be unfair to say that this was a “very similar” team to the one Locker had.
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I think the difference between Daniel and Gabbert is significantly bigger than the difference between Price and Locker just off the top of my head.
The difference, or rather magnitude of difference, is actually relatively similar.
besides, it’d be unfair to say that this was a "very similar" team to the one Locker had.
Again, when you’re comparing across years, there’s never going to be an apples to apples example. This, however, is about as close as you’re going to get.
It is not unfair to say this was a very similar team,
when in fact it was similar. Unless they imported a whole new line and receivers, comparing the two is very valid.
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by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Jan 17, 2012 4:15 PM CST up reply actions
Here is my best compilation and comparison of the two rosters. Hard to find depth charts but I think I got all of them.
2011:
RB Chris Polk, WR Jermaine Kearse, WR James Johnson, WR Devin Aguilar, TE A. Seferian-Jenkins.
OT Senio Kelemete, OG Colin Tanigawa, C Drew Schaefer, OG Colin Porter, OT Erik Kohler.
Link.
2010:
RB Chris Polk, WR Jermaine Kearse, WR D’Andre Goodwin, WR Devin Aguilar (James Johnson on the roster, not in a starting role), TE Marlion Bennett (not sure about this, from the looks of it they didn’t use much of a TE last year).
The OL had a few different combinations, so for all the players used, see the link below. But to assemble the ‘starting’ line, I went with the person with the most starts.
OT Senio Kelemete, OG Ryan Tolar (started every game but one, at both guard positions), C Drew Schaefer, OG Colin Porter/OG Christine (started more games it looks like), RT Habben.
So Price and Locker basically had the same receivers, except Price has them 1 year later. Both had the same LT, C and RG. They differ at LG and RT. Very similar rosters.
Link from profootballreference. And I used Wiki for for some as well (line combinations).
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by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Jan 17, 2012 4:58 PM CST up reply actions
You're forgetting the TE position
Seferian-Jenkins is an absolute stud who set all kinds of Washington records as a freshman TE receiving.
Locker had essentially no TE, in an offense that is set up to feature a TE.
So, 3 different OL with multiple shuffling and different receiving TE is a much different offense (not including the 3 WRs having an extra year together in the same offense). And, it is the OL and TE that really help a QB…with no protection and no real outlet, then Locker didn’t have much to work with.
by shawneriksmith on Jan 17, 2012 5:16 PM CST up reply actions
Excellent skimming...
2011:
RB Chris Polk, WR Jermaine Kearse, WR James Johnson, WR Devin Aguilar, TE A. Seferian-Jenkins.
2010:
RB Chris Polk, WR Jermaine Kearse, WR D’Andre Goodwin, WR Devin Aguilar (James Johnson on the roster, not in a starting role), TE Marlion Bennett (not sure about this, from the looks of it they didn’t use much of a TE last year).
And, it is the OL and TE that really help a QB…with no protection and no real outlet, then Locker didn’t have much to work with.
The offensive line was terrible for Locker, we know that. But 3 of the 5 guys he worked with, so has Price. And you’re placing more emphasis on one tight end than the 3 receivers each had to work with. Yes, they all had an extra year under their belt, and maybe that made all the difference, but I listened for months people telling me Locker’s accuracy was just a product of the players around him. Same back, same WRs, uhh..
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by ronburgundy7427 on Jan 17, 2012 6:12 PM CST up reply actions
I'm not really familiar with UW football, but...
didn’t in Jake’s last year Sarkisian change to a pro offense. If that’s the case, Price and all those mentioned teammates had more time in that system than Jake. Not only that but they were bound to work out some of the O-line issues before this season.
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I think that sounds right.
I admit Price had a better situation than Locker: receivers with more experience, better o-line, more time in the system, and Locker wasn’t a pro-style QB until his last year. All that should lead to Price’s increased production, I’m just not sure that the gap between the two should be so substantial. Accuracy, for instance, has a gap of 11%. That can’t all be on the surrounding players.
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by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Jan 17, 2012 7:20 PM CST up reply actions
I agree that the difference is noticable by those numbers.
I wonder how many throw aways, drops, sacks and QB pressures Price had compared to Jake’s last season. We know that Jake had a high number of throw aways, as well as drops if memory serves me correct. It’d also be interesting to know whether or not they ran slightly different plays to help some of their struggles from the year before. Again, I’m not very familiar with UW. I didn’t watch a single game of theirs this season. Even if things were equal, I won’t read too much into it yet. I look at it as this is Jake’s second year in a pro offense and it’s obvious he’s made significant improvements.
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That I agree with.
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by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Jan 17, 2012 8:37 PM CST up reply actions
Sark has always been a "pro" style guy.
The change came when he came to UW before Locker’s Junior year.
uhh
People looked at Gabbert’s lack of success relative to the other Missouri QBs that went to the draft to form their opinion on him
Which is why you loved him???
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Irrelevant.
I did NOT use the Gabbert-Daniel argument. But if everyone is going to use it, then it should apply here as well.
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by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Jan 17, 2012 4:14 PM CST up reply actions
I'm not sure what to think.
But looking at the stats, we also gotta remember that Locker has the threat to run, so that has got to count for something, no? It seems that Price (from the numbers) is more of a traditional QB while Locker has some versatility and mobility, though I can’t say that for sure as I haven’t seen Price play.
Also after looking online, it seems that Locker’s o-line was worst in his senior season then this year, MAYBE contributing to Price’s better numbers, but from what I’ve read from a few fans, Price is a better traditional passer, and like I mentioned, that can be seen through the stats. However, again, Locker has the threat to run.
Finally, I’ve looked into the players that Washington has this year, and it looks like Locker had NO talent around him, but Price does have one of the higher rated NFL prospects in Chris Polk, ALONG with Kasem Williams (#1 player of the nation I believe) and a TE to throw to (who were both missing in Locker’s years).
Those are just some quick facts I dug up, can’t really come to any conclusions unless you take a look at the tape, and even then, you can’t say anything cause it’s not like they played with the exact same team or changed plays or something along those lines.
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Those are just some quick facts I dug up, can’t really come to any conclusions unless you take a look at the tape, and even then, you can’t say anything cause it’s not like they played with the exact same team or changed plays or something along those lines.
True, but this is about as close as we’ll get short of QB’s alternative series in the same season.
As for the pass protection, there’s only one freshman on the O-line, and he’s a redshirt at that. So unless I’m missing some transfers, these guys were all in school last year. Unlike the NFL, O-line protection in the college ranks rarely gets decidedly better from one year to the next, as you’re typically working with the same personnel, whereas you can pick up players at the pro level. If anything, lines typically get worse with key role players graduating. I’m not dismissing this entirely (I even noted it above), but I’d wager that it’s not a dramatic difference.
Locker had the benefit of playing with Polk last year, and also Kearse. Williams only caught 36 balls for 426 yards, so he isn’t really an impact player (yet).
But looking at the stats, we also gotta remember that Locker has the threat to run, so that has got to count for something, no? It seems that Price (from the numbers) is more of a traditional QB while Locker has some versatility and mobility, though I can’t say that for sure as I haven’t seen Price play.
This is true. Problem is that we’re not using him like that, nor should we (IMO). As Gruden put it, Locker’s ability to run is a “resource, but you don’t want to abuse it.” It’s a bonus, however, at the pro level, that’s all it is. In the absence of a threatening passing attack, it isn’t useful in the long term.
Kinda got off on a tangent here. I’m still optimistic about Locker’s future. Just a little concerned about the sudden jump in production at UW…that’s all.
Regarding Locker's ability to run:
Yeah, I agree that Locker should be developed as a pass first QB with the option to run if there is no one open or to get rid of the ball out of bounds.
Maybe Locker relied too much on his running abilities in Washington? Which is why his passing numbers weren’t as strong as Price’s. It could very well be possible that Price is a better passer than Locker, but the difference in stats is a bit scary. I am still expecting a bright future for Locker.
Actually, I did catch a couple of minutes of the Washington-Baylor bowl game while helping my dad install his new T.V. and from what I can recall, the announcers did mention that Price suffered a few lower body injuries this year (knee or foot?). We can never really know how it effected him and compared to Locker’s injuries, but just wanted to point out that Price did battle injuries as well.
by infinitystealth on Jan 16, 2012 5:41 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah. Price injured his knee earlier in the year.
Based on my research, he’s a ~4.7 40 guy. Not 4.5-5.6 (Locker) speed, but still plenty athletic for a QB.
Regarding UW's offensive line
The Huskies offensive line was much, much more stable this year than in Locker’s last two years.
Here is an article discussing the difference in UW’s offensive line in 2011 versus the previous 2 years. And, having a good, stable offensive line makes a HUGE difference for a QB (plus, having actual TEs to throw to when the protection breaks down).
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/huskies/2017046773_uwfb19.html
by shawneriksmith on Jan 17, 2012 10:27 AM CST up reply actions
The article is fairly anecdotal.
I guess I’ll just have to take your word for it as I haven’t seen enough to draw any meaningful conclusions.
And, here is another article discussing the differences in TE position
http://www.gohuskies.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/102011aac.html
I just don’t think it is fair to say that Locker played with the same personnel as Price (not saying that Locker is better than Price or vice versa).
It was two different teams, especially offensively speaking.
by shawneriksmith on Jan 17, 2012 11:48 AM CST up reply actions
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I just don’t think it is fair to say that Locker played with the same personnel as Price (not saying that Locker is better than Price or vice versa).
It is virtually the same personnel, though. Just one year older. Maybe that made a huge difference the Huskies, I haven’t seen enough games to forge my own opinion.
But it wasn't the same personnel
Their offensive line had to be shuffled around and they had no TEs.
Just think if the Titans offensive line was shuffled around (Harris at OT, Stewart at OG, etc) and if we didn’t have Cook/Stevens. Would Hasselbeck had such a good year? Hell, we lost one player (Britt) and our passing game was never the same.
So, this past year’s Huskies team was much different than what Locker had.
by shawneriksmith on Jan 17, 2012 2:26 PM CST up reply actions
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So, this past year’s Huskies team was much different than what Locker had.
Except it’s virtually the same people. Maybe they were a year older. Maybe there was more consistency in O-line positioning. At the end of the day, it’s basically the same players.
We can agree that things like consistency, maturity, and lack of TE injuries helped, but not to the extent that it would lead to such a gigantic statistical disparity, IMO.
So we’re clear, I’m not saying this is apples = apples. I’m saying that I’m not convinced that these little things in the offense can totally explain a +11.5% Comp, +1.7 Y/A, +16 Passing TDs, and +37 Qb rating.
Moreover, Price was #7 in the nation in passing efficiency. Locker never cracked the top 50.
None of this changes my opinion of Locker, necessarily. His play this year has made me a believer. Still, I think this is what it is…
I'm just going to pray to the football gods that he is the next Favre (minus cell phone pictures and doucheness)..
Average-to-below-average college stats…becomes a stud in the NFL.
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by ronburgundy7427 on Jan 17, 2012 3:49 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah.
My hope is that it’s a systematic thing in combination with the growing pains of moving from Wing-T to Spread Option to West Coast.
That's what I'm chalking it up to.
It couldn’t have been easy going from one different system to another, actually with that in mind it’s a wonder he looked as good as he did at times this year. I think the important thing is mechanically he’s fairly sound with some footwork adjustments needed. But his pocket presence and delivery are already pretty good with room to grow for sure.
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by ronburgundy7427 on Jan 17, 2012 4:04 PM CST up reply actions
Wing T, Spread Option, and West Coast are 3 very different systems.
Those are big changes for a young, developing QB. That’s nothing to be scoffed at.
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by TennesseeTyrants on Jan 17, 2012 4:42 PM CST up reply actions
this worry seems to be based off of the assumption that Price won’t be regarded as a high draft pick and/or good NFL QB, dude’s no slouch, and that Locker hasn’t improved since college, which I think we can all agree that he has. also; Price has two receivers who were HS All American’s, Chris Polk another year older, plus Johnson and Aguilar are healthy, plus the offensive line had another year to develop with each other, BOOM.
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by Dynamic Dreadlocks on Jan 16, 2012 10:16 PM CST up reply actions
Regarding the draft.
If you guys ever come across a prospect who you can’t find a lot of information about or want to learn more about, here is a website that does a good job in analyzing the game tapes and have scouting reports on almost every player entering the NFL draft.
Here is the link:
http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/scouting_department.html
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And if you're looking for draft videos (and not highlight videos),
www.draftbreakdown.com is one site I found that shows every single snap for a single player in one game. Just finished watching all of Mark Barron’s snaps against LSU in the first game between the two.
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by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Jan 16, 2012 8:59 PM CST up reply actions
nfldraftscout.com is another good one
they give you accurate stats and measurables in most cases
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yea he is, i'm surprised none of the bigger media have picked him up instead of CBS who could care less about the draft
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by nolesbroncos3456 on Jan 16, 2012 9:19 PM CST up reply actions
So, just looking objectively at the statistics, I found an interesting situation heading into this year's draft.
St. Louis – The meme is that Fisher is stepping into a situation here with a great young QB to build around. The seeds are already planted to grow a successful franchise.
Cleveland – It’s time to move on from Colt McCoy. He just doesn’t have it to be an NFL QB. Considerations, among fans, range from Matt Flynn, to RGIII, to Nick Foles.
Over the past 2 combined years:
Colt McCoy has a better completion percentage, better QB rating, and better y/a, better TD%, and marginally inferior INT% than Bradford.
I don’t think the “team” argument carries weight as they both play with garbage talent around them. If anything, Bradford is better off with Jackson in the backfield.
I’m not necessarily saying that Colt is destined for a long, successful career in the NFL. I don’t really know. I just find it interesting that both these guys are on seemingly polar opposite sides of public opinion right now, despite the fact that Colt has out performed Bradford over the same period.
Yeah I don't see why the judgement is already out on McCoy?
The dude has no WRs outside of Cribbs and he should never be used as a #1 WR. His RBs sucked last year. His TE was alright, but nothing special and his O-line is all over the place…
I wouldn’t mind him coming here to back up Locker sometime in the future, seems like a pretty well rounded kid with a similar skillset.
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I don't see the Browns releasing him.
Holmgren basically said as much when he told Colt and the media that he would compete again for the starting job this offseason. There’s mixed signals about his future given this comment, but it seems pretty clear that he’ll be in Cleveland next year.
Yeah I don't think he will be released until next year, nor do we really have a back up spot open until then
point is, I see promise in him where there apparently do not.
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Yeah.
He’s not nearly as athletic as Locker, though. Nor does he have his arm strength. He does have the same kind of attitude, though. Doesn’t make excuses. Just keeps his head down and goes to work. That’s what won over the Browns locker room last year, because he was forced on Mangini by Holmgren, started at the bottom of the depth chart, kept his mouth shut, and eventually took over as the starter. The team really bought into that.
The guy I see the most parallels to is Drew Brees (who, I’ll point out, had inferior statistics at this point in his career). Similar size and similar question marks. Both have a remarkable work ethic and attitude, though. At the QB position, once a baseline skill set is in place, those little things are what separate the average from the elite.
I agree; he is just on a bad team that needs help now rather then later.
Browns should be more concerned about getting offensive help instead of trying to plug in another QB. They are always a mess though, so I don’t expect much to change. McCoy just needs to get out of there.
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I gained a lot of respect for McCoy after the whole Mangini thing.
But I think the things you pointed out are why people aren’t high on him. And it’s the same reason they weren’t high on him coming out of college. He’s a decent athlete, but not THAT athletic, and his arm isn’t great. I’m not saying that’s right, I just get the impression that’s the case. Kind of like Andy Dalton, etc.
But yeah, I agree that his ceiling is Drew Brees if he puts it all together and finds himself in a perfection situation like Brees’s. That’s a hell of a ceiling.
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Wow, I couldn't believe that myself until I looked at the stats myself.
You also forgot to mention the fumbles. Bradford has twice as many with 5 more games played, but I think he was really hampered by his injuries.
As you mention, both of them have a lack of talent surrounding them, but you also gotta take into account the horrid o-line play Bradford had to endure. The rams were first in the league in sacks allowed with a whopping 55 sacks, whereas the Browns were 14th with 39 sacks allowed. If you look at Bradford’s numbers in his first season alone, they were much superior, but it was this past season that kinda deflates his stats.
I was just playing a little Devil’s Advocate here, but I understand what you are trying to say regarding the comparison of Colt and Sam, and how even with similar stats, the fans have 2 strong and opposite opinions on the 2 QBs.
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The rams were first in the league in sacks allowed with a whopping 55 sacks, whereas the Browns were 14th with 39 sacks allowed. If you look at Bradford’s numbers in his first season alone, they were much superior, but it was this past season that kinda deflates his stats.
It should at least be pointed out that sacks/O-line play is closely tied to how quickly the QB gets the ball out. Just watching a handful of Browns games, their O-line was atrocious as well.
I’m not trying to make a case that Colt is better than Bradford. Given the perception of the two, I find it interesting that the statistics are so close. In the context of the discussions you hear from talking heads/fans on the subject, one would expect a pronounced disparity between the statistics of the two.
I think in most situations you shouldn't pass judgement on young QBs until after year 3 or so
Unless they show extremely poor decision-making or pocket presence (a la Gabbert) or have tremendous talent surrounding them (a la Sanchez).
I think Bradford and McCoy are both good QBs, but they do need to be surrounded by better talent with more stable coaching schemes. It is funny how the perception is different for both QBs though.
by shawneriksmith on Jan 17, 2012 10:39 AM CST up reply actions
Mike Martz is retiring
He says he’ll spend his golden years giving concussions to QBs the old fashioned way, with a hammer, as opposed to his traditional method of having 4 linemen protect the QB while 7 receivers run double-move routes.
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Not sure if you guys know yet, but Hue Jackson is interviewing for the OC job with the St. Louis Rams
by infinitystealth on Jan 17, 2012 12:01 PM CST reply actions
that's a good hire for them as long as he and fisher don't play GM.
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by nolesbroncos3456 on Jan 17, 2012 12:29 PM CST up reply actions
Falcons hire Mike Nolan as DC
great hire for them
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Outstanding hire.
Wonder if they go to a 3-4 now.
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by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Jan 17, 2012 4:16 PM CST up reply actions
probably not
he’s proven to be adaptable to his personnel. He worked wonders in Denver from what I’ve seen of him before he got fired stupidly by McDouche
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by nolesbroncos3456 on Jan 17, 2012 4:46 PM CST up reply actions
...but Denver did switch to a 3-4 during that period.
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by ronburgundy7427 on Jan 17, 2012 5:20 PM CST up reply actions
I do recall the switch being fairly successful
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by nolesbroncos3456 on Jan 18, 2012 2:43 AM CST up reply actions
Recent ex Bama corner Dre Kirkpatrick has been arrested for weed possession
Jommy is displeased/maybe happy since this news will take Kirkpatrick’s stock down for a nosedive
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I know its not a pressing need but...
In a lot of mock drafts, Zack Brown falls down to us. I’ve heard alot about Barron and I’m not convinced that he’s worth a first rounder. We never use our top pick on a lineman due to the strength of coaching here and the best two guards will likely be gone. I think Zack Brown could give us the “playmaker” the coaches were talking about and also a linebacking trio that would be awesome for the next 10 years.
I think that we can fill our holes in free agency and in the lower rounds in the draft, because our needs are in positions where you don’t have to use a top pick to get good talent (G,C,S) There are so many Wr’s available in free agency this year we are bound to get one who is better than hawkins/avery. So I think this is a viable option for us, Spoon has been a decent stop-gap. I think Brown may be the best player on the board when we pick and he fills a need
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I dunno about Brown.
Love his athleticism but I saw his game tape vs. Missouri yesterday and he missed too many plays than I would’ve liked out of a potential first rounder. He missed a few tackles, and some of the plays he just overran himself out of the play, which was really unfortunate as it seemed he was in good position. It seems like he has the instincts to become a good linebacker and has some pop in his tackles, but he also got taken out of some plays too easily IMO by blockers. This is just one game, so I can’t conclude anything. Just some things I wanted to point out for consideration. Hopefully, I get to watch more tape on him and get a stronger opinion of his positives and negatives and how I feel about him overall.
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oh MCM Radio how I miss you so
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by Titans_Firefighter on Jan 17, 2012 10:43 PM CST up reply actions
Makes sense
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this may be me playing Madden too much, but how about bringing in Marshawn Lynch to play 1a to CJ's #1 status
if CJ sucks again next year, we just cut him and give the keys to a 26 year old Lynch (yeah I can’t believe he’s only 26)
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by nolesbroncos3456 on Jan 17, 2012 10:01 PM CST reply actions
are you that bad in madden?
lol, cj gets me 100 yard games 70% of the time, and with his 100 yard games, Harper gives me 100 yard games along with cj’s 100 yard game 5/10 times
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by Ice0ne (CAJ) on Jan 18, 2012 11:11 PM CST up reply actions
lol I use substitution packages a lot
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by nolesbroncos3456 on Jan 18, 2012 11:28 PM CST up reply actions
haha i see, i only use it in a few formations
lol, harpers is beast in the weak formation
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by Ice0ne (CAJ) on Jan 19, 2012 1:43 AM CST up reply actions
The Raidahhhhs looking at Mike Tice (formerly head coach of the Vikings during that whole love boat episode)
If they were going to venture on that route, I’d have just stuck with Hue Jackson and called it a day
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by nolesbroncos3456 on Jan 18, 2012 2:45 AM CST reply actions
http://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2012/01/12/2012-free-agent-tracker/
PFF’s FA Tracker/Ranker.
Notes:
Evan Mathis as #1 Guard. Would be way cheaper than Nicks/Grubbs/Myers and is only 30. Only made 700k this year.
Abraham as a #1 DE. Perfect stopgap
Mincey from Jax very highly rated. 8 sacks and balanced. I approve
Walterfootball has a new mock up and it's a little of the same thing
(1)20. Melvin Ingram DE USCe
(2)52. Kelechi Osemele OG Iowa State
(3)83. Antonio Allen S USCe (changed from Sean Spence last time, he’s into the 2nd round)
(4)115. David Molk C Michigan
I’m not sure who Antonio Allen is to say either I like or dislike him but it’s a solid 4 rounds
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by nolesbroncos3456 on Jan 18, 2012 12:51 PM CST reply actions
Addresses pretty much all of our major needs in the first 4 rounds
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5 Round Mock on mocking the draft, done by a Redskin fan.
1st #20 Tennessee – Peter Konz C Wisconsin – Titans grab the best Center in this class to upgrade their offensive line.
2nd #20 Tennessee – Michael Brockers DT LSU
3rd #20 Tennessee – Orson Charles TE Georgia
4th #20 Tennessee – Harrison Smith SS Notre Dame
5th #20 Tennessee – Jordan White WR Western Michigan
its kinda like a meh draft.
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by Titans_Firefighter on Jan 18, 2012 10:13 PM CST reply actions
Get rid of the TE and I'd be all over this.
Highly unrealistic though, Brockers is likely going mid first.
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by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Jan 18, 2012 10:18 PM CST up reply actions
Maybe we get lucky and his draft stock doesnt rise to that level.
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by Titans_Firefighter on Jan 18, 2012 10:34 PM CST up reply actions
If we get Brockers in the 2nd round, I would be a happy camper.
Heard many great things but I still wanna watch some tape on him.
by infinitystealth on Jan 18, 2012 10:43 PM CST up reply actions
so this year's akeem ayers?
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by nolesbroncos3456 on Jan 18, 2012 11:33 PM CST up reply actions
Wouldnt that be nice. But I think the reason Ayers dropped last year was because of the lockout.
Teams didnt have a chance to fill spots with FA, so they had to draft for need first and not on luxery. This year you will teams be able to just draft what they want/need because of possible filling needs in FA. So can he be this years Ayers? Yes and no.
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by Titans_Firefighter on Jan 19, 2012 12:03 AM CST up reply actions
horrible 40 time also
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by Ice0ne (CAJ) on Jan 19, 2012 1:44 AM CST up reply actions
Already has
Brockers will be gone before our pick @ #20.
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by titansfan4ever on Jan 23, 2012 10:13 AM CST up reply actions
I'd be surprised if we spent 2 of our top 3 picks on another DT and another TE.
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by TennesseeTyrants on Jan 18, 2012 10:19 PM CST up reply actions
Like I said it was a mock draft done by a redskin fan. So need to take eveything with a grain of salt.
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by Titans_Firefighter on Jan 18, 2012 10:33 PM CST up reply actions
i'm taking it with a grain of garlic salt
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by Ice0ne (CAJ) on Jan 18, 2012 11:12 PM CST up reply actions
but Reuben Randle will be.....heyyooo
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by nolesbroncos3456 on Jan 19, 2012 12:38 PM CST up reply actions
yes we would!
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by nolesbroncos3456 on Jan 19, 2012 8:58 PM CST up reply actions
Randle is who I want for our 2nd rd pick.
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by titansfan4ever on Jan 23, 2012 10:16 AM CST up reply actions
If we had overturned one of the horrendous loses ie the colts or jags
Would we have won the division. I don’t know the tie-breaking procedure, but by my count wouldn’t it make us have the same interdivisonal record and inter conference record.
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by infinitystealth on Jan 19, 2012 8:26 PM CST reply actions
man, what a day...
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Schefter with a few updates:
Rams expected to interview Jets VP/College Scouting Joey Clinkscales for their general manager vacancy this week.
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Rams to hire former Jets asst. Brian Schottenheimer as their offensive coordinator.
I like the Schotty hire by Fish, though I understand why many here aren’t as high on him as I am. Don’t know anything about Clinkscales.
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by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Jan 21, 2012 12:56 PM CST reply actions
Rumor is that Chip Kelly will be the next coach in Tampa Bay.
Please…PLEASE let this happen. It’d be great to see how well that uptempo spread works in the NFL. They don’t have the personnel to run his zone read scheme, but the players are a perfect fit for uptempo-no huddle.
Not going to happen...
heard this AM that he’s decided to stay @ Oregon.
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by titansfan4ever on Jan 23, 2012 10:20 AM CST up reply actions
LSUFREEK doing work as usual
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