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Tennessee Titans Daily Links: Holdouts And Holdups Edition

Tennessee_titans_30x21 Reinfeldt addressed Chris Johnson's holdout over the weekend, and the team is saying they'll work with CJ on a new contract if he'll come to camp. They don't expect him to practice or risk injury, just attend meetings and generally be there to absorb the new offense and the new rhythm of things around Baptist Sports Park. Honestly, I don't understand what part of that plan CJ's agent would object to. Even if the Titans' offer is laughably low, CJ could gain a lot of public support by showing up at camp. He's really getting killed around Nashville for this holdout (to an inordinate level, IMO), and a simple gesture like showing up with no intention of practicing would help him a lot.

Tennessee_titans_30x21 This better be a joke, or some kind of motivational ploy. The first released depth chart, which is listed as unofficial, has Craig Stevens starting over Jared Cook. Also, when will the day finally come where I don't have to see Justin Gage's name on a Titans depth chart? Can we just skip ahead to that day already???

Tennessee_titans_30x21 Hopefully Cortland Finnegan learned a big lesson this weekend. Even if they are at fault, don't blame the media. Nothing gets journalist to run cynical and snarky shots at you like putting the media on blast. They're largely an insecure group, and they have a bigger bull horn than you. What Cortland should have done was act contrite, and then apologizes for not being clear upfront and creating confusion that spiraled into outrage. It doesn’t matter if Cortland really was holding out for more money (which he obviously was); he's only harming his case by not playing the game with the journalist who is in that locker room damned near every day. Either that or be funny. Being defensive and accusatory isn't a good look in life or in football.

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Tennessee_titans_30x21 Jordan Babineaux was teammates with Matt Hasselbeck for seven years in Seattle, and he started off his first practice as a Titan by picking off a Hasselbeck pass.

Tennessee_titans_30x21 Titans single game tickets went on sale this morning. There are roughly 3,000 tickets available for each home game, and the Titans are hoping to continue their streak of selling out every game since the stadium opened in 1999.

Tennessee_titans_30x21 The Titans did a great job of heavily front-loading Matt Hasselbeck's new contract, to the point that almost half of his total salary will be paid this year. Now if we don't need him next year we won't have to eat a bunch of cap space when he's cut. Hopefully they can do the same thing with a certain running back who's looking for a mega-deal

Tennessee_titans_30x21 The Titans have signed offensive lineman Pat McQuistan. The 6-6, 319 lb lineman has played both guard and tackle in his years with the Cowboys and Dolphins.

Tennessee_titans_30x21 PFF says that our decision to get Barrett Rudd instead of retaining Tulloch was one of the worst moves of the offseason. I say that's a good sign that their LB metrics are out of whack.

Tennessee_titans_30x21 Randall Godfrey > Stephen Tulloch.

 


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Agreed

One more month and its game time against those little Jax kitties

In Locker I trust!

by crazylegs28 on Aug 8, 2011 10:56 AM CDT up reply actions  

It really is.

The Force is with you, young SkyLocker, but you are not a Jedi... yet!

by J3G77 on Aug 8, 2011 10:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

August, just to note, you spelled Hasselbeck in a variety of ways, just not the correct way.

To switch gears, I have very little sympathy for Finnegan. I don’t believe his BS excuse at all.

WTF: Appropriate initials given my thought processes.

by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Aug 8, 2011 10:58 AM CDT reply actions  

I fixed it for him

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by gramsey712 on Aug 8, 2011 10:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

Agreed, but I've moved on.

One way or the other… at least he is back at camp and more then likely will not be on the team next year.

That being said, FO I AM STILL A FREE AGENT!!!!!!!1

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by StPrattrick on Aug 8, 2011 11:00 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah...I'm over Finnegan.

I’m more concerned now about how Frank Walker, Pete Ittersagen & LeQuan Lewis will do. Either that….or….move ATV to the right side and start him.

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by titansfan4ever on Aug 8, 2011 12:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

Tommie is going to be a star!!!!

You heard it here first!!

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by titansfan4ever on Aug 8, 2011 12:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

I saw someone mention this earlier..but I agree

Stevens is a better blocking/complete TE – - less i remind you we have the best Running Back (not in camp) in the NFL -

ipso facto – Stevens should start of Cook – we run the ball and play D – and PA off of that.

just my thoughts

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by titansfan615 on Aug 8, 2011 10:58 AM CDT reply actions  

I wouldn't put too much stock in who's listed as a starter.

Manu Ginobli comes to mind as an example. The Spurs never started him….but as soon as the game got going …there he was making plays.

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by titansfan4ever on Aug 8, 2011 12:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

Paul K glossed over this as a standard for the team.

They’ll be plenty of Cook regardless.

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by asbestos_man on Aug 8, 2011 12:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

This
They don’t expect him to practice or risk injury, just attend meetings and generally be there to absorb the new offense and the new rhythm of things around Baptist Sports Park. Honestly, I don’t understand what part of that plan CJ’s agent would object to.

I do not get why he is still so steadfast in not showing up to camp to at least start the contract talks and show good faith that he is willing to become a long term investment for this team. If I were in the FO I would be interpreting this mess as ‘we give this guy 500 billion dollars, what makes us think in another 3 years he won’t hold out for the national deficit?’ IMO

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by StPrattrick on Aug 8, 2011 10:59 AM CDT reply actions  

I'm thinking that may be the agent more than CJ himself.

A leverage ploy.

he never will wear number 10 - Fernando brazil refering to Locker. Uh...

by ronburgundy7427 on Aug 8, 2011 10:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

Could be

but it’s still not helping his case. He needs to fire this agent

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by StPrattrick on Aug 8, 2011 11:01 AM CDT up reply actions  

Its becoming pretty clear that team is pretty low on CJs priority list

Not that that’s good or bad, but its got to be on the mind of the FO

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by rothbard on Aug 8, 2011 11:33 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Well with all things considered going on in the last few weeks

I don’t blame them… he’s either here willing to talk or not, the team still has to get ready for week one.

The Saint of MCM

by StPrattrick on Aug 8, 2011 11:39 AM CDT up reply actions  

We have to put CJ out of our minds right now and focus on who IS here and who IS going to show us that THEY are the ones who deserve to start.

Like Javon Ringer, Jamie Harper, Stafon Johnson & Herb Donaldson!! If these guys don’t see that this is their BIG chance…then they’re blind!!

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by titansfan4ever on Aug 8, 2011 12:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

Herb Donaldson. Sounds more like a news anchor than RB. Lol

The Force is with you, young SkyLocker, but you are not a Jedi... yet!

by J3G77 on Aug 8, 2011 12:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't care if his name is PeeWee Herman.....

as long as he runs north & south and always gains some yardage!!

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If you had to be perfect to do what we do, then nobody would be doing it. On the other hand, if everyone could do what we do.....then everyone would be doing it.

by titansfan4ever on Aug 8, 2011 12:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

And BTW....Ron Burgundy is the only news anchor around here....

and don’t you ever forget it!!

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If you had to be perfect to do what we do, then nobody would be doing it. On the other hand, if everyone could do what we do.....then everyone would be doing it.

by titansfan4ever on Aug 8, 2011 12:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

I know RonBurgundy is the MCM anchorman.

But with a name like Herb Donaldson he might end up having some competition one day. Lol

The Force is with you, young SkyLocker, but you are not a Jedi... yet!

by J3G77 on Aug 8, 2011 12:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

That'll keep Ron on his toes....:-)

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If you had to be perfect to do what we do, then nobody would be doing it. On the other hand, if everyone could do what we do.....then everyone would be doing it.

by titansfan4ever on Aug 8, 2011 12:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

Those sound like fighting words...

I’m a five-time Emmy award winning anchor! I am a man! I’m an anchorman!

he never will wear number 10 - Fernando brazil refering to Locker. Uh...

by ronburgundy7427 on Aug 8, 2011 1:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

You are a crazy man!!!

But we still luv ya.

Music City Miracles Hall Of Fame, Class of 2010

If you had to be perfect to do what we do, then nobody would be doing it. On the other hand, if everyone could do what we do.....then everyone would be doing it.

by titansfan4ever on Aug 8, 2011 1:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

Oh look!

Another member of the Channel 4 News Team has joined MCM!

he never will wear number 10 - Fernando brazil refering to Locker. Uh...

by ronburgundy7427 on Aug 8, 2011 3:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

Now Ron, don't get bent out of shape.

You’ll continue to be MCM’s anchorman. Herb just may push you for the evening time slot. Lol

The Force is with you, young SkyLocker, but you are not a Jedi... yet!

by J3G77 on Aug 8, 2011 2:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

One question......

does Herb have a mustache?

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If you had to be perfect to do what we do, then nobody would be doing it. On the other hand, if everyone could do what we do.....then everyone would be doing it.

by titansfan4ever on Aug 8, 2011 2:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's a good question. I don't know.

He has to have a power-stache to even be considered for the job.

The Force is with you, young SkyLocker, but you are not a Jedi... yet!

by J3G77 on Aug 8, 2011 2:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well that doesn't count.

We’re talking about a 70’s porn star mustache.

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If you had to be perfect to do what we do, then nobody would be doing it. On the other hand, if everyone could do what we do.....then everyone would be doing it.

by titansfan4ever on Aug 8, 2011 2:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

He'll never look as good as me.

he never will wear number 10 - Fernando brazil refering to Locker. Uh...

by ronburgundy7427 on Aug 8, 2011 3:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

Reason Tully is better then Rudd so says PFF
He’s not terrible in coverage, but that’s not the point.

- No, that is exactly the point!

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by StPrattrick on Aug 8, 2011 11:05 AM CDT reply actions  

To clarify, PFF is talking about Ruud in that statement.

The context is….He’s not terrible in coverage, but that’s not the point. Ruud is horrible at shedding blockers.

by SuperHorn on Aug 8, 2011 11:18 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'd content that Tulloch is terrible at that as well.

anytime we got mediocre to bad DT play, Tully would get washed out of the play too often for my taste.

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by August West on Aug 8, 2011 11:28 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah I don't remember his vaunted ability to shed blockers

Rudd has made plenty of tackles too, so I guess I’m not getting it.

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by asbestos_man on Aug 8, 2011 1:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ruud isn't the greatest player, but neither is Tulloch

Im’ sick of all the Bucs fans complaining about him. He was good in coverage and was a great leader. Maybe he couldn’t play the run all that well, but last time I checked defending the pass is more important than defending the run.
Besides we have some good linemen and Ayers to make up for Ruud’ shortcomings.

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by wimpiam on Aug 8, 2011 1:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

jared cook

will not just play te. he will line up wide and all sorts of places. palmer will use him alot i promise he is to good to set down unless u go by the name fisher.

by musicfootball24 on Aug 8, 2011 11:13 AM CDT reply actions  

Boy, a lot of the commentors to Kuharsky's and the Tennessean's blogs really piss me off.

Some seem like they wouldn’t know shit from Shinola! Not really going anywhere with this, just venting I guess.

The Force is with you, young SkyLocker, but you are not a Jedi... yet!

by J3G77 on Aug 8, 2011 11:21 AM CDT reply actions  

titans

titans just signed a offensive lineman.

by musicfootball24 on Aug 8, 2011 11:21 AM CDT reply actions  

it's already in the links

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by August West on Aug 8, 2011 11:27 AM CDT up reply actions  

If CJ doesn't show by tomorrow

he loses an accrued season towards free agency. Surely that has to matter since it sort of kills the whole “if they won’t pay big someone else will” backup plan.

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by rothbard on Aug 8, 2011 11:31 AM CDT via mobile reply actions  

This gives me hope

Not sure if it does, but it gives me some hope

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by sami426 on Aug 8, 2011 11:33 AM CDT up reply actions  

Not sure if it should*

Not sure if it should*

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by sami426 on Aug 8, 2011 11:33 AM CDT up reply actions  

A creative coach

Would just make Cook the slot receiver. Britt, nate, cook works for me as a 3 wr set. All in favor?

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by hal41605 on Aug 8, 2011 11:36 AM CDT reply actions  

It has been reported that Cook has been lining up

in the way you describe

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by rothbard on Aug 8, 2011 11:38 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Meh.

I’d rather see him at TE, bump and run type with Britt, Nate, and D.Will lined up at WR IMO

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by StPrattrick on Aug 8, 2011 11:41 AM CDT up reply actions  

wouldn't mind

Him running routes from a 3 point stance, but I don’t see the point in wasting him as a blocker on the line too often. Also, a mediocre blocking te is a great blocking wr.

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by hal41605 on Aug 8, 2011 11:56 AM CDT up reply actions  

I wouldn't really see him as being used as a pocket building TE

but more of a ‘get in the way of defender’ TE and either roll out or quick dump off TE. I think limiting him to WR would take away from the mismatch

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by StPrattrick on Aug 8, 2011 12:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wouldn't he be a bigger mismatch at TE though?

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by sami426 on Aug 8, 2011 11:43 AM CDT up reply actions  

not sure

Lbs are too slow, safeties are too small (and too slow in some cases). craig and cook on the same side would be real tough to cover and great to run behind

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by hal41605 on Aug 8, 2011 11:49 AM CDT up reply actions  

Not in most cases

depends on the Lineup of the defense.

If he is covered by a LB, big mismatch, he’s beaten them, as well as DBs.

by Ice0ne (CAJ) on Aug 8, 2011 11:54 AM CDT up reply actions  

I would line him up on the line then set him in motion to the opposite slot

That way, you can tell if the defense is in man-to-man or zone coverage…if man-to-man, then you can see who is covering Cook and go to him. If zone, then you can have the two WRs run some routes that beat typical 2 deep or 3 deep zones and/or hit CJ on the flat.

Cook gives you a lot of flexibility in the offense…he is a mismatch, just like Britt is a mismatch for most DBs and CJ is a mismatch for any LB.

A good offensive coordinator should be able to use these weapons and make this offense explosive.

by shawneriksmith on Aug 8, 2011 12:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

I couldn't agree more sir

Explosive offenses use every single thing they can to help the QB decipher the defense, Using motion presnap is a great way for a QB to breakdown a defense presnap. It doesn’t always work as some coaches deploy zone/ man schemes in the same play especially in the 3-4 (which is why it’s the best defense against the passing league the NFL has become). But a majority of the snaps you can tell if a defense is in man or zone by simply having a guy in motion.

Let's see Fish+Nameless+Heimerdinger+Cecil= Epic Fail
But we have a new equation F+Y+H+C= GONE!!!

by DuelDukes on Aug 8, 2011 12:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'd rather use him as a Flex WR/TE.

And, if we’re really getting wacky, I’d like a no huddle with base 11 personnel. Keeping Cook in there allows you to have balance with a standard 3 WR single back set with an extra blocker, but it also allows the offense to flex out to a 4 WR/TE set on a moments notice. That’s a real problem for defensive coordinators who would be forced to choose between their base set and a nickel, and forced to stick with it for the majority of an offensive possession.

by SuperHorn on Aug 8, 2011 12:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

He's good enough to blow up a Nickel corner if they go that route. If they go with the LB, we can just punish them with flat and seam routes.

The other thing you could do is run 21 personnel and keep Hall in as an extra blocker. Nate/DWill and Britt can play FL and SE. Cook can play the Y.

The point here is that with Cook, Britt, and CJ a competent OC should be able to get creative and put strain on a defensive coordinator. A good OC dictates what an opposing defense does. With a little effort, that shouldn’t be a problem for us.

by SuperHorn on Aug 8, 2011 12:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

I definitely agree that we have the personnel req. to a lot of different things with a core group.

The only part you are leaving out is if we have a QB that can wrap their head around the whole idea in 3 weeks time.

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by rothbard on Aug 8, 2011 12:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

cant wait

i think cook has the same tools as gates and can do the same stuff. this guy could kill in the slot but could also do damage lined up at te. he should be well known after this season if chris palmer is any upgrade over dinger.

by musicfootball24 on Aug 8, 2011 12:21 PM CDT reply actions  

I keep wondering.

What will the Titans offer CJ in terms of a new deal? Will it be a lot? Do they even know what kind of deal CJ is looking for? I’d just like to know how far they’re willing to go to pay CJ.

I'm not opinionated. I just have an ego that you can't handle.

by GoTitansGo on Aug 8, 2011 12:35 PM CDT reply actions  

I keep wondering if CJ wants to play football anymore

or if he is more concerned with being a rap mogul…

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by rothbard on Aug 8, 2011 12:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

No....because even rappers have to be understood...no?

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by titansfan4ever on Aug 8, 2011 12:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

burn!

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by rothbard on Aug 8, 2011 12:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

cj

has to understand rbs are a dime a dozen i know they dont make them like him but if locker pans out like we all hope he will be way more valuable to this team. i want cj back dont get me wrong but if he is wanting to absolutely break the bank trade him while his value is up. why not give locker more weapons, but once again i want cj.

by musicfootball24 on Aug 8, 2011 1:35 PM CDT reply actions  

You hear

“dime a dozen” used by a lot of fans and media folks with regards to running backs.

Not accurate. It’s not that there’s anymore incoming players at this position every draft year than there are players at any other position. It’s just that RBs on average don’t seem to last as many years at the top of their game as players at other positions.

This is just more reason for them to seek higher paying early career contracts than other players. They want to get paid while they still have gas in the tank.

by numbertenox on Aug 8, 2011 1:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well a back like CJ are not a "Dime a Dozen" but most are.

Ringer is a back that is a “Dime a Dozen”, Blount is, Hillis is. If you can put a back into a system and get a 1000yd out them then they are just a “Dime a Dozen”. I will point out to the Broncos during Shanahan time there where they would just plug a back in and boom 1000yds.

by Titans_Firefighter on Aug 8, 2011 1:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

Agreed....CJ is a rare back.

But he’s not here. So, let’s focus on who is here, and let’s see if these other backs deserve to be an NFL starter or not.

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by titansfan4ever on Aug 8, 2011 2:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

cotchery leaves steelers camp without contract. im thinking he is not fully healthy?

by musicfootball24 on Aug 8, 2011 1:41 PM CDT reply actions  

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