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Tennessee_titans_30x21 How in the hell is it just now coming out that the player's agreed to blood testing for HGH in the new CBA? That's a landmark move, as no major US sport allows blood testing. I'm all for stopping players from taking things that will hurt them or create an unfair advantage, but there's no way in hell I'd give a team a blood sample. There's too much genetic information there that a team could use unfairly in negotiations and free agency. The privacy concerns are huge, and I'm completely shocked that the players signed off on this.

Tennessee_titans_30x21 Kenny Britt is upset that a few months of yoga during the offseason didn't fix his hamstring issues. Hate to break it to Kenny, but it doesn't start working overnight. You have to do yoga every day, and take it seriously, for a good while to get those kinds of results. Hopefully Britt will stick with it though, because I definitely prefer he spend more time in a Warrior II Pose and less time on the sidelines or a courtroom. Namaste.

Tennessee_titans_30x21 Chris Palmer's personality is already coming through at training camp. Palmer is a very laid back guy, but that doesn't mean players will be able to skate by without working hard or focusing on perfection:

"If you do the right thing, he has no issues," Ragone said. "And if you mess up once, he’ll coach you up. But you mess up the same thing twice and it’s pretty intense.

"It’s a little bit of a stomp, it’s a little bit in your face. Now he won’t be swearing, but you’re not going to like what you’re going to hear. I’m telling you, it’s direct and it’s stern, very stern."

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Tennessee_titans_30x21 This came up in the comments yesterday, but it's worth mentioning again: Munchak has already given a starting OLB spot to Ayers and Ruud will play the MLB spot. That leaves the third spot for either Gerald McRath or Will Witherspoon. I'm going to bet that Witherspoon wins that competition, but either way we'll have a much improved LB group over last year's group.

Tennessee_titans_30x21 Paul K cautions against expecting too much out of newly signed Jordan Babineaux. The veteran safety was a man without a starting spot last year for Jerry Gray in Seattle, but there are a lot of good safeties who wouldn't beat out Earl Thomas and Lawyer Milloy. Babineaux has the versatility to play one of the supporting CB spots, and he'll instantly upgrade the depth in a safety group that's high on potential but skimpy in terms of NFL resume.

Tennessee_titans_30x21 Bo Scaife could end up on a one-year deal somewhere else, rather than landing the big contract he wants.

Tennessee_titans_30x21 It's August and football is back, so I guess it's time for NFL analysts to dust off those 'Is this the year the Texans make it???' articles.

 

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I completely agree with the players signing the HGH testing.

Say you are a clean athlete..
It´s better to to let go of the “privacy concerns” you mentioned, and make sure other athletes are not getting competitive advantage over your clean ass.
And about the genetic information, i think teams already have access to that. Now the league will have too. No big deal.

by criollo_pcg on Aug 5, 2011 10:08 AM CDT reply actions  

There needs to be a level of privacy though

if its a straight – yes or no if they have HGH or any other steroid in their system, cool. But if they uncover an illness the player didn’t even know about then use that information in contract negotiations mid season or out right cut the player… that’s f-ed up. H-Core.

I do not think the league or the teams has any business gaining complete access to the players blood work files. IMO

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by StPrattrick on Aug 5, 2011 10:17 AM CDT up reply actions  

that's crazy

In a profession where your body is your meal ticket, the last thing you need is your employer trolling through your genetics looking for reasons not to pay you; however, I feel the main problem was brought up Jake Scott is that if you employ a lab to get results, their goal is going to be to find cheaters and not to clear people.

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by asbestos_man on Aug 5, 2011 12:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

Unless it's just a flat rate per test or per season

No incentive either way as far as results

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by rothbard on Aug 5, 2011 12:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's what it is.

They get paid no matter what the results are.

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by gramsey712 on Aug 5, 2011 4:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

The market sets the price for a player, not his blood test.

If one employer don´t want to pay, another will. Do you really think the teams don´t already have this kind of information?
So you feel that if your body is your meal ticket, you can modify it without your employer knowing about it? You can cheat the employer, but he can´t make sure you are within the rules?
Who cares if CJ´s great grandmother had a disease? the guy still runs a 4.24!! All this genetic information stuff is bullshit.
I´m still surprised they signed it, because we all know most of them are juiced anyway..

by criollo_pcg on Aug 5, 2011 12:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

The second that a team tried to use other information gained from blood testing in negotiations there would be a lawsuit.

And it would be enormous. I don’t think there’s as huge of an issue as you think.

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by BonzosMontreaux on Aug 5, 2011 10:11 AM CDT reply actions  

I'm going to agree with this.

And I bet there are things written in there related to what information the team(s) and league can and cannot get from testing. Perhaps they only are allowed to know HGH and other steroid information.

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by ronburgundy7427 on Aug 5, 2011 10:18 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'm sure that's the case

but it’s too close for comfort, IMO.

I completely understand that not everyone will agree with my view of this, but I know I’m not the only one who would balk at it if asked.

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by August West on Aug 5, 2011 10:20 AM CDT up reply actions  

Someone else can correct me if i'm wrong, but i don't think you can test blood for multiple things.

You need separate vials for each test. So if they were only testing for HGH and taking one vial of blood, i don’t think they could glean any other information from it.

Ain't no time for hesitatin'
All you got to do is groove

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by BonzosMontreaux on Aug 5, 2011 10:24 AM CDT up reply actions  

I miss that show.

Fortunately British sci-fi television has given me my fix of mystery lately.

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by ronburgundy7427 on Aug 5, 2011 10:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

GREATEST SHOW ON TV!!!!!!!!!!!11<<<<<<<<

DON’T YOU EVER DISRESPECT IT1

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by StPrattrick on Aug 5, 2011 10:23 AM CDT up reply actions  

I hated it the first time I watched it

then went back and re-watched the entire show again about a year later.
 

Loved it. So much.

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by StPrattrick on Aug 5, 2011 10:26 AM CDT up reply actions  

Do it

You will feel so much better.

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by StPrattrick on Aug 5, 2011 11:13 AM CDT up reply actions  

I dont know..

After Lost i migrated to different kinds of shows.. from The Wire to rewatching war series (the pacific and band of brothers). I think i got wary of sci-fi series..

by criollo_pcg on Aug 5, 2011 11:19 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

You'd probably love Call of Duty...

my son plays it all the time.

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by titansfan4ever on Aug 5, 2011 11:20 AM CDT up reply actions  

Dr. Who?

Have you watched Torchwood?

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by StPrattrick on Aug 5, 2011 10:23 AM CDT up reply actions  

Both.

Doctor Who is fantastic, lots of fun and the current series and cast is easily my favorite. Torchwood’s first couple seasons were meh, the mini-series was really good, and the current season started off strong but is now kinda dragging.

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by ronburgundy7427 on Aug 5, 2011 10:29 AM CDT up reply actions  

I never got into Dr. Who early enough

and now there is so much back story that I don’t even want to try…. but I get the idea behind it.
I am really liking the current season of Torchwood and I don’t think I’ve ever hated Bill Pullman as much as I do now.
Really though, I am just waiting for Walking Dead to start up again so I can get my sci-fi mystery fix again… :o(

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by StPrattrick on Aug 5, 2011 10:33 AM CDT up reply actions  

We're going completely off-topic here, but...

If you have Netflix, you can start with Series 5 of Dr. Who, introduces the current cast and pretty much all the backstory that has carried over to the current Series 6.

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by ronburgundy7427 on Aug 5, 2011 10:35 AM CDT up reply actions  

Was there an original topic?

Awesome, I might actually give it a shot now.

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by StPrattrick on Aug 5, 2011 10:39 AM CDT up reply actions  

Do it!

Dr Who can be a bit zany at times, but it’s a very good show.

by hartley on Aug 5, 2011 11:33 AM CDT up reply actions  

Also, that Texan's article actually asks if you'd bet against them.

I’d say yes, every time. If Vegas had lines for choking away a season they’d be at the top of the list.

Also, calling it now that Joseph disappoints and their defense still sucks this year.

Ain't no time for hesitatin'
All you got to do is groove

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by BonzosMontreaux on Aug 5, 2011 10:14 AM CDT reply actions  

Is this the year the Texans make it???

AAAAHHHHH……..NO!!!

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If you had to be perfect to do what we do, then nobody would be doing it. On the other hand, if everyone could do what we do.....then everyone would be doing it.

by titansfan4ever on Aug 5, 2011 10:50 AM CDT up reply actions  

With Namaste,

I was sure you would mention the new Elite Football League of India!
I am more excited than you can imagine for this. Go Gladiators.

by Aditya T (smashville) on Aug 5, 2011 10:23 AM CDT reply actions  

EFLI????

Is this for real?

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by titansfan4ever on Aug 5, 2011 10:56 AM CDT up reply actions  

Completely legit.

One of my family friends was actually contacted to convert from rugby to football. Exciting stuff.

by Aditya T (smashville) on Aug 5, 2011 11:20 AM CDT up reply actions  

Is it really going to catch on in India?

I didn’t really think football had any interest outside of America, despite the annual London game debacle.

Ain't no time for hesitatin'
All you got to do is groove

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by BonzosMontreaux on Aug 5, 2011 11:21 AM CDT up reply actions  

Here's how I see it.

Cricket is #1 in India. It’s so serious that coaches are murdered if they lose a big game. But, cricket is basically the only significant sport in India (Despite hockey being India’s national sport.)

Indians are generally very stubborn, so it would take a lot of work to make football popular. If the EFLI can manage to put their games, even just initially, in popular cricket clubs, it will work. All of us here fell in love with football, why can’t they?

by Aditya T (smashville) on Aug 5, 2011 11:30 AM CDT up reply actions  

I mean i suppose, but you shouldn't rely on people taking to it just because its on in a cricket club.

But i don’t pretend to know anything about India like you do. So we’ll see if it catches on.

Ain't no time for hesitatin'
All you got to do is groove

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by BonzosMontreaux on Aug 5, 2011 11:40 AM CDT up reply actions  

Cricket clubs over there are like a daily pastime over there.

Everyone goes to the club in the evening. So if they play, tons of people will watch, and that’s the only way it would catch on, imo.

by Aditya T (smashville) on Aug 5, 2011 11:41 AM CDT up reply actions  

OK smash....hockey I could sort of understand.....

but THIS…..man…..I don’t know.

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by titansfan4ever on Aug 5, 2011 11:22 AM CDT up reply actions  

I love yoga.

Read “Real Men Do Yoga”. That’s the one with Eddie on the cover. Great book.

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by DannoE on Aug 5, 2011 10:48 AM CDT reply actions  

Giving starting spots already?

THAT was fast.

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by titansfan4ever on Aug 5, 2011 10:57 AM CDT reply actions  

Tells us one of two things:

1) Ayers is a beast who has to start, and Ruud is an upgrade over ‘Spoon in the middle.
2) This team really sucks and Ayers & Ruud are the best options from what’s available.

Here’s hoping it’s the former.

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by ronburgundy7427 on Aug 5, 2011 11:01 AM CDT up reply actions  

It's probably both...

just a little surprised….I mean…we haven’t even played a preseason game yet.

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by titansfan4ever on Aug 5, 2011 11:03 AM CDT up reply actions  

If you watch the video it's pretty clear he was just responding to a loaded question from Wyatt(?)

More of “yeah, something like that”. Not, “Ayers is day 1 starter. Done deal”

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by rothbard on Aug 5, 2011 11:16 AM CDT up reply actions  

I did not watch it.....

but that makes more sense.

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by titansfan4ever on Aug 5, 2011 11:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

McRath no idea why people are counting out McRath.

I would bet anything, he outplays spoon.

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by TitansJonne on Aug 5, 2011 11:43 AM CDT reply actions  

Except Spoon can actually play at a medicore level.

McGrath so far has only proven he can take steroids and STILL play pretty poorly.

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by BonzosMontreaux on Aug 5, 2011 11:46 AM CDT up reply actions  

HGH wasn't reported earlier

Because it was just finalized yesterday. They had to wait for the union to be reformed to negotiate some of the drug stuff because of annoying labor law stuff.

by NewsToTom on Aug 5, 2011 11:45 AM CDT via mobile reply actions  

makes sense

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by August West on Aug 5, 2011 1:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

August, I think your concerns about blood testing and privacy are overblown.

The easiest way to handle it is with an outside lab doing all the testing with a strict NDA on results other than HGH testing.

I mean, you act like the players aren’t giving blood at their physicals, which is crazy. OF COURSE they’re giving blood at the physicals. That’s a basic part of a physical. I had to do it for my job, and I think that’s probably pretty common. How else would you check for problems with blood sugar levels, etc? These are things that employers sometimes need to know, i.e. “I might need to rush this guy to the hospital is his blood sugar crashes,” etc.

But the idea that they’re then going to do genetic testing because, you know, of course they’re just going to… that doesn’t make a lot of sense. These guys pay for on-field performance. Either you show it, or you lose your job. No blood tests are needed for that. The game tape is already there.

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by DannoE on Aug 5, 2011 12:39 PM CDT reply actions  

Blood tests are frequently given by employers

as part of overall physical health exams. No biggie, I’m not planning on going all Gattica and scrubbing my keyboard when I leave work to hide genetic traces.

j

by numbertenox on Aug 5, 2011 12:56 PM CDT reply actions  

Burn:
11:28
Comment From Adrian Peterson
Why doesn’t Chris Johnson just be a man like me? I’m playing out my rookie contract, sticking to my word. What’s his deal?

11:29
john glennon:
Well, AP, different strokes for different folks, I guess. But you could certainly argue that CJ has been more important to the Titans than AP to the Vikes.

http://blogs.tennessean.com/titans/2011/08/04/reminder-fridays-big-chat-starts-at-10-a-m/

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by StPrattrick on Aug 5, 2011 1:06 PM CDT reply actions  

hmm

minor detail being AP’s contract is worth ~$40m

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by rothbard on Aug 5, 2011 1:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

seriously

AP was a top 10 pick, and CJ was at the end of the first round. HUGE difference…

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by August West on Aug 5, 2011 1:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

40mil = to 12 mil, right?!!

they still be millions!

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by StPrattrick on Aug 5, 2011 1:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

STRAIGHT CASH HOMIE!!1

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by rothbard on Aug 5, 2011 1:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

We should pay CJ in whatever that first stack is.

Or bearer bonds. But the John McClane gets involved and just ruins Christmas.

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by gramsey712 on Aug 5, 2011 4:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yippi-ki-yay...

he never will wear number 10 - Fernando brazil refering to Locker. Uh...

by ronburgundy7427 on Aug 5, 2011 5:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

Even better question/response...
10:30 [Comment From BillyCR BillyCR : ]
How would you compare Locker’s readiness to VYoung when he first came to camp?
10:31 Jim Wyatt: He’s way ahead. Vince struggled right off the bat. Locker much more ready and committed

Hooray!
 

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by ronburgundy7427 on Aug 5, 2011 1:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah actually there are a lot of good questions in the thread

the AP one just stuck out because of the mega-burn he put on Peterson.

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by StPrattrick on Aug 5, 2011 1:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

Im a surgeon

And about the whole blood testing…..
1. It is a huge HIPPAA violation to test for anything other than what the patient has signed off on. In this case blood drug/PEDs tests can only be performed on the blood taken. If the patient only consents to have the blood drawn for illicit drugs/ PEDs…. The NFL has no legal right to test for anything else (genetic or otherwise). A HIPPAA violation would consist of a $250k dollar fine on the NFL, plus a fine for each person that broke the law, and possible incarceration for up to 5 years.
2. Genetic testing is VERY expensive (if they consented). It just wouldn’t be feasible to spend all that money to test every player to possibly uncover genetic anamolies on a small amount of the players. The most common genetic anamoly they would find is probably Sickle Cell Anemia. Most players would have already disclosed this because they could die when their RBCs loose oxygen during physical excertion.

Hope this helps! GO TITANS GO!!! Get ready for the pain train! Woooo woooo

by ibleedtitansblue on Aug 5, 2011 1:30 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

Awesome

thanks!

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by StPrattrick on Aug 5, 2011 1:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ahh the joys of HIPPAA.

i know all about that. here i need you to sign this, this is just a privacy policy saying what happen in the back of the ambulance stays in there. here is a copy of the policy if you get bored and want to fall asleep reading.

by Titans_Firefighter on Aug 5, 2011 1:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

hahaha

It is boring stuff. But it is necessary for those exact reasons I stated. Everyone has rights don’t let your employers make you think otherwise. If everyone were to educate theirselves about patient privacy they would understand why all the hospitals have such crazy policies….

by ibleedtitansblue on Aug 5, 2011 2:05 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Bo Scaife

Signed with the Bengals…

USC > UT (Both of them)

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