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Tennessee Titans RB conspiracy theory

 

Let me first preface this by clearly stating that if CJ was here then maybe none of this would be an issue. The Titans would continue on the path that they have traveled and hopefully end up with a better record than last year. With that being said, I would like to now hone in on the current Titans depth chart and possibly uncover an underlining coaching conspiracy.

 

The titans had four running backs at the end of last season: Chris Johnson, Javon Ringer, Stafon Johnson (I.R.) and Herb Donaldson (P.S.). These four running backs were all slated to return the following season, but to be honest the Titans have only used two RB's while having CJ in the back field. Despite the current situation and reality of the Titans, first year head coach Mike Munchak decided to draft running back Jamie Harper in the fourth round. This decision is questionable considering the way the Titans run Johnson and how they appear to be satisfied with second teamer Javon Ringer.

 

This action would lead me to believe that Harper was drafted for another reason. It was obvious that CJ was going to hold out for a bigger contract and the amount of camp he missed would be unknown. So, was Harper drafted to fill a camp spot or a roster spot and if it's a roster spot, then whose?

 

Javon Ringer has been in the Titans organization for 3 years. Ringer was third on the depth chart in 2009/10 behind CJ and Lendale White. It wasn't until the 2010/11 season, after White was traded to Seattle, that Ringer moved up to the number two spot. Many even questioned his ability to hold on to that position as Stafon Johnson made a huge impact in training camp last year. Ringer stepped up, Johnson got hurt, Blount was released and by the end of preseason he had locked his spot in on the depth chart. Ringer was used behind CJ last year and ended his season with 51 carries for 239 yards and averaged 4.7 yards a carry. It would appear that with his production last year that the he would be a valuable asset to this year’s team, but with all new personnel maybe this is not the case?

 

Harper immediately began on the depth chart as third (despite two of last year’s RB's returning). It's clear that if they drafted him then they were going to keep him, but how did he jump ahead of S. Johnson and Donaldson?  Was this position just given to him because he was drafted by the NEW coach, or did he outperform these two other guys? Don’t get me wrong, Harper has had a tremendous impact on the Titans preseason. He has scored in all three games and was deemed the starter in weeks 2 and 3 (after Ringer suffered a hip injury that has sidelined him the past 2 weeks). He appears to be a beacon of hope to Titans fans showing that this coach knows what he's doing and has brought in a high quality back.

 

Stafon Johnson was slated to make the team last year and possibly see valuable minutes, under Fisher, until he was injured the first preseason game. He was highly impressive in camp last season and showed that he was of NFL quality in last year’s preseason opener. That was until he returned on the field in the fourth quarter and was injured on a play. The results were a dislocated ankle and a broken fibula. This would sideline Johnson for the year. Fisher saw talent in S. Johnson and decided to keep him as a Titan and place him on season ending injury reserve. Johnson came back to camp this year having only been cleared to run 4 weeks before. Despite his obstacles, he has returned and is now faced with possibly being cut. He has run the ball extremely well in the first two games, and after week two I'm left to question some decisions of the coach. S.Johnson was sidelined against the bears and didn't get in until the fourth quarter. Both Harper and Donaldson seemed to be suffering against the Bears defense but Johnson was still not used. Is this because the other running backs are better, or is this because if Johnson did well people would question why he's so low on the depth chart?

 

Herb Donaldson was a practice squad player last year and was listed as being 5th on the running back depth chart, under S. Johnson, but for some reason has entered the game before Johnson the last two weeks? I guess no one has bothered to ask why? Johnson has statistically outperformed Donaldson for the last two weeks. S. Johnson is first in yards per carry(5.1) for the Titans and 16th in the NFL this preseason in total yards rushing (108 yards as of 8/27/11).

 

With all this being said I am left with a series of questions: Is Harper indeed Ringers replacement and possibly CJ's? Is S. Johnson being held back so he doesn't outperform the newly drafted and highly touted Harper? Is Donaldson going to make the team and not S. Johnson? Why is there so much happening at this position and no one speaking out about it?

 

The truth is there is always a plan and scheme that a coach uses. People, we are talking sports here! I've listened to several interviews with Munchak and can clearly see that what he's saying and what his intentions are may be two different things.  Fact, the titans need a red zone back. This is clearly what Harper was drafted for. Ringer nor S. Johnson have even had the opportunity to run in goal line situations. Donaldson failed and Harper has been successful, I think, 3/5 attempts.

 

It appears to me that the conspiracy is simple. The Titans have hired a coach that wants to separate himself from Fisher and begin his new coaching era. The problem with this is oftentimes people are sideswiped with these plans. It's clear that Stafon Johnson is a player that will be affected by this transition, but what's not so obvious is that Javon Ringer and Chris Johnson will be too. Ringer will drop to 3rd on the depth chart and CJ's touches will decrease as he begins to share the ball with Harper. As for Donaldson, he may make the practice squad again, but then again maybe not. So, Tennessee Titans fans, I urge you to be be careful about what appears to be great because as we all know, "looks can be deceiving."

 

Now I ask you, "Is this a conspiracy or just necessary changes?" I look forward to hearing your opinions on this matter.

 

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I’ve listened to several interviews with Manchuk

I’d love to know who this “Manchuk” person is, and how he knows so much about the Titans …

Anyway, the RB situation has just fallen into place like this because of CJ’s holdout and Ringer’s injury. Harper has played very well but who’s to say Ringer won’t be the #2 when he returns? I don’t see what the conspiracy here is. They’ve had to play Harper due to injury, and he’s performed, so he’s earned playing time.

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by Dynamic Dreadlocks on Aug 29, 2011 6:34 AM CDT reply actions  

haha the fact that he refers to Munchak as "Manchuck TWICE = auto fail

I wonder what Gerry Grey and Kris Polmur think about this conspiracy to ruin the team by cutting Stafon Johnson.

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by BythePowerofMunchak! on Aug 29, 2011 12:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

hahaha….spelling names wrong because of my original mistake, classic. Man you need to be on a comedy tour with those jokes…NOT! As far as asking the offensive coordinator, who has failed at every team he worked for as well as calling half back draws in the red-zone…yeah, that’s who I want to ask about Johnson…again, NOT! Never said anything about ruining the team by cutting Stafon, but I guess that’s your interpretation. I do think Stafon will be a viable rb for some team. Obviously you think this coaching staff is capable of making great decisions and are destined for greatness.

by TeamLA on Aug 29, 2011 3:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

you're just getting pissy like a little girl because no one in here thinks Stafon Johnson is going to make the team

and did you seriously used the 1992 colloquialism “…NOT!”

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

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by BythePowerofMunchak! on Aug 29, 2011 3:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

You seem to really be a guy who can’t take what he dishes out. I repeatedly stated that Johnson would probably be out, never questioned that. I only questioned if he was given the opportunity. Who’s the Titans leading y/c rusher? Johnson will land on his feet, not worried about that. I am worried that the Titans may not. All coaches make changes and with these changes come risk. I hope your hero lives up to expectations.

by TeamLA on Aug 29, 2011 4:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thanks for the name correction and you exact repeat of half of what I originally said. But instead of repeating my statements, lets try voicing some of your own. Do you think Harper will play during the season and if so, who will he be replacing?

by TeamLA on Aug 29, 2011 2:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

Not if CJ is here.

If CJ is here, Harper probably stays 2 or 3 on the depth chart, and if he plays, it’ll be short yardage or goal line. I can’t see the Titans keeping Stafon or Herb just because 3 RB’s with CJ as the primary back is more than enough

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by Dynamic Dreadlocks on Aug 29, 2011 4:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wow

Sorry bud, but Stafon and Donaldson are both going to be cut. Neither are any good.

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by rothbard on Aug 29, 2011 8:23 AM CDT reply actions  

What team did you play for or coach for? To say that a player that has made it to the NFL is not good is a testament of your ability to think logically. Just keep playing fantasy football and Madden and change your name to “clueless in Tennessee.”

by TeamLA on Aug 29, 2011 3:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

put down the bong for a minute

neither of those players have every played in a regular season NFL game and neither were drafted so saying they “made it to the nfl” is a bit of a stretch. they are both practice squad players. Remember Chris Henry? drafted in the 2nd round and got plenty of chances in regular season games. so logically is Chris Henry a good player?

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by BythePowerofMunchak! on Aug 29, 2011 3:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

Put down the Budweiser!

“neither of those players have every played in a regular season NFL game and neither were drafted so saying they "made it to the nfl" is a bit of a stretch”

Johnson suffered an accident that took him off the field his senior year. He would have been drafted in early rounds, but I guess you don’t believe that either. You seem to be a die-hard fan and that’s respectable; did you like Fisher when the was a coach?

by TeamLA on Aug 29, 2011 3:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

GASP! (unless you're under 21...then sarcastic GASP!)
and i don’t drink beer

Are you a terrorist?

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by ronburgundy7427 on Aug 29, 2011 3:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

I love scotch.

Scotchy, scotch, scotch. Here it goes, down into my belly…

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by ronburgundy7427 on Aug 29, 2011 3:56 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

hahaha

80% of the time you make me laugh every time.

jk i laugh every time

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by BythePowerofMunchak! on Aug 29, 2011 3:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

And I’ve never smoked a day in my life! So you don’t like karma…what goes around comes around.

by TeamLA on Aug 29, 2011 3:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

i see you did this fanpost at 3:00AM this morning

getting up early?

or wasted from the night before?

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by BythePowerofMunchak! on Aug 29, 2011 4:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

Good is relevant

“Better than me” has absolutely nothing to do with “good @ NFL football”

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by rothbard on Aug 29, 2011 3:39 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

What the fuck team did you coach or scout for...

that makes you the subject matter expert on which running backs make our team. I have nothing against Stafon, but it seems pretty clear you ass must be hurting because one of your Team LA (USC) guys is about to be unemployed. So as it has been said putd down the bong and leave our fellow MCMers alone.

by bullrider73 on Aug 29, 2011 3:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

Language

Try picking up a dictionary and replace profanity with vocabulary!

by TeamLA on Aug 29, 2011 3:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

fuck is a real word son

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by rothbard on Aug 29, 2011 3:45 PM CDT up reply actions   3 recs

it's, in fact, the most versatile word in the english language

as it can be used as almost any part of speech.

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by hal41605 on Aug 30, 2011 4:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

okay

instead of “fuck off you dumbass” how about

“why do you waste your time posting parochial non-sense that you want to force into the minds of other people?”

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by BythePowerofMunchak! on Aug 29, 2011 3:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

Someone’s heated and you have the “POWER OF MUNCHAK!” not to respond to anything I post. Both are tools to build vocabulary, but I guess you don’t know that. What’s funny is how I can post something and because you don’t agree you get heated. This is life, everyone has an opinion and if you do not like mine than you are free to leave the room.

by TeamLA on Aug 29, 2011 3:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

dude i'm chilled - not even close to heated

you’re just making yourself look like a fool now

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by BythePowerofMunchak! on Aug 29, 2011 3:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

“…that makes you the subject matter expert on which running backs make our team.”

Our team? Are you implying that you are a bigger fan than me? I haven’t messed with anyone just asked a series of questions that you didn’t answer or reference once.

by TeamLA on Aug 31, 2011 5:03 AM CDT up reply actions  

Might want to take the tin-foil hat off...

I’m still trying to make sense of what I just read. You’re really saying it’s a conspiracy that a fourth-round pick is going to get a roster spot over two undrafted guys?

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by ronburgundy7427 on Aug 29, 2011 8:38 AM CDT reply actions  

I don´t agree with the things the post said.. but your reasoning that a roster spot is guaranteed based on the round the player was drafted is not right!

We should know that this can back fire, as we kept Henry around for too many years.

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by criollo_pcg on Aug 29, 2011 10:48 AM CDT up reply actions  

It may not be "right"...but it plays a large role when it comes down to making cuts.

Especially UDFA vs. drafted player, come on now. Henry stuck around as long as he did BECAUSE he was a second round pick, you can disagree with that decision but where he was drafted had a lot to do with why he stuck around so long. It backfires for teams all the time, but it doesn’t stop them from choosing the drafted guy (or higher drafted guy) over an undrafted guy or the lower-round pick. Teams want to justify their selections, they’re going to give those guys every opportunity.

Harper has now performed well enough to guarantee a roster spot, but even if he hadn’t…he would make it in over Johnson and Donaldson because the team invested a fourth round pick on him. That is going to affect decision making whether you like it or not.

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by ronburgundy7427 on Aug 29, 2011 11:05 AM CDT up reply actions  

I know it happens, and it kind of makes sense that the GM or coach that selected the guy wants to give the guy a chance.

But imo this should not be an important factor on the decision making process.
I´m not talking of the Harper case specifically. This factor plays a big part when the guy is a rookie. But I do get troubled about some decisions made when a player already had 1-2 years of opportunity to develop and floped big time.
The faster we can get over a bad draft selection the better.

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by criollo_pcg on Aug 29, 2011 11:46 AM CDT up reply actions  

The general rule of thumb is three years.

You can’t discount a guy after his rookie year, look at how many players did absolutely nothing their rookie year only to become superstars later on. Some even take longer, because that first year they’re acclimating to the NFL, the second year they may be getting on the field for the first time or finally starting to comprehend everything. The third year is where they understand it all and just play. Don’t be so eager to pull the trigger on someone just cause of a lack of production in years one and two. By that measure, Jared Cook should’ve been cut already.

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by ronburgundy7427 on Aug 29, 2011 12:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

I do believe some need more time than others.

But usually the ones worth keeping start showing signs of development, even without the stats to show for it. (Cook, for instance)
All I´m saying is.. if a guy, say like Zach Clayton or Klug, shows more signs of beeing a good player than a guy like Marks. Do we stay with the high pick (marks) or stay with the lower picks showing bigger potential? Again, just expeculating, not a real facts example.

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by criollo_pcg on Aug 29, 2011 1:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

Why and loan it to you?

Never said that! What I did ask is what will be Harper’s role? I do however believe that Johnson wasn’t given a chance to prove if he’s better or not. Harper is a good rb, but to believe that he’s better than SJ or Donaldson is yet to be proven. Please don’t be naive to think that if he wasn’t then he wouldn’t be playing, he was recruited by these coaches.

by TeamLA on Aug 29, 2011 3:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

Didn't Johnson and Donaldson have all camp to show they are better?

So yeah, if they were they would be playing ahead of Harper. Oops.

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by rothbard on Aug 29, 2011 3:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

“Didn’t Johnson and Donaldson have all camp to show they are better?”

Went to camp and all the RB played really well. They also have looked good in the preseason games. With that being said, I wonder if they rotated snaps, especially with Ringer out, who would have made a greater impact. Harper was given the most opportunities to shine, and he did indeed shine, but I would have liked to see returners get the same opportunity(this is where I made my case for Johnson, because Ringer, Harper and Donaldson have seen 1st and 2nd quarter snaps, he’s the only one that hasn’t). This doesn’t mean that I think he’s better, I just would have liked to see what he could do early in the game vs late. If the Titans want the best back don’t you want to be able ,as fans, to see who’s the best.? If you believe the coach knows best then that’s fine, but I know that sometimes other factors play a role.

by TeamLA on Aug 31, 2011 4:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

What other factors would those be?
If you believe the coach knows best then that’s fine, but I know that sometimes other factors play a role.

Doesn’t the coach and FO want the best players on the team? You seem to neglect the fact that the exact same FO that signed Johnson (UDFA), and retained him through his second catastrophic injury is the same exact FO still in place. Why keep him and then not play him in meaningful snaps if he isn’t good?

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by rothbard on Aug 31, 2011 9:36 AM CDT up reply actions  

Pretty sure I've seen Johnson get a chance in a couple preseason games.

To believe Johnson or Donaldson are better than Harper is yet to be proven; Harper has made the most of his opportunities that the coaching staff has given him. Can’t fault the guy for getting it done and showing he has the potential and ability to do it.

I don’t even understand that last sentence, but as I already said up above, of course Harper is going to get more opportunities than Johnson and Donaldson, he was a mid-round draft pick compared to two UDFAs. Good for him for capitalizing on his opportunities and locking up a spot.

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by ronburgundy7427 on Aug 29, 2011 3:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

Do you believe that I’m saying Harper isn’t a good back? I actually asked whose spot he will be taking. Johnson and Donaldson don’t even have spots. I believe that Harper will be the #2 rb. What will Ringers position be. CJ for long yardage and Harper in red-zone.

by TeamLA on Aug 29, 2011 3:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

the Titans didn't carry 3 running backs last year

so Harper made his own spot… not taking anyone else’s spot

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by BythePowerofMunchak! on Aug 29, 2011 4:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

They'll keep 3 RBs this year...

Rosters are not clear-cut, black-and-white “We’re keeping 3 QBs, 2 RBs, 3 TEs, etc.” every year. Numbers can change based on personnel and needs. Ringer is probably still the number two back, but Harper has taken carries away from him with his performance thus far.

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by ronburgundy7427 on Aug 29, 2011 4:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ringer can also spell CJ between the 20s.

It’s narrow-minded to simply think, “They’ll use CJ for all long-yardage runs and to be a home-run hitter, but as soon as they get inside the ten, in comes Harper. No room for Ringer between those two.” Ringer can spell CJ on the field, not all of his long runs go for TDs after all.

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by ronburgundy7427 on Aug 29, 2011 4:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

“It’s narrow-minded to simply think, "They’ll use CJ for all long-yardage runs and to be a home-run hitter, but as soon as they get inside the ten, in comes Harper.”

Yes, I do believe the Titans will limit themselves to two back and will use Ahmard Hall(FB) to spell CJ. I’m just questioning if that #2 will be awarded to Harper instead of CJ. Harper has extremely good vision in the red-zone and is a much bigger back than CJ and Ringer.

by TeamLA on Aug 31, 2011 4:43 AM CDT up reply actions  

Hall may get a carry or two.

But why use a huge, slow(er) guy like him when you can plug Ringer in who is not CJ but still fast in his own right? Much better to spell CJ with Ringer, and you can still involve Harper in goal-line and short-yardage situations (or use Hall there as well).

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by ronburgundy7427 on Aug 31, 2011 9:41 AM CDT up reply actions  

See, ronburgundy

I respect you, cause you’re one of the only ones here who didn’t insult this guy on his opinion, and argued about it like a civil person. And I agree with you as well. I’d also like to see some plays with both Cj and either Ringer or Harper in and see how that goes…

by F1 Titan on Aug 31, 2011 11:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

Why and loan it to you?

“Might want to take the tin-foil hat off…”

Never said that! What I did ask is what will be Harper’s role? I do however believe that Johnson wasn’t given a chance to prove if he’s better or not. Harper is a good rb, but to believe that he’s better than SJ or Donaldson is yet to be proven. Please don’t be naive to think that if he wasn’t then he wouldn’t be playing, he was recruited by these coaches.

by TeamLA on Aug 29, 2011 3:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

I will never understand this thought process

that somehow Stafon Johnson is the Titans’s secret weapon because he does alright in the last parts of preseason games.

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by rothbard on Aug 29, 2011 11:12 AM CDT reply actions  

It's the "Blount Effect".

UDFA RB = ZOMG!!!! BEST RB EVA

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by ronburgundy7427 on Aug 29, 2011 11:24 AM CDT up reply actions  

At least Blount was sort of good

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by rothbard on Aug 29, 2011 11:29 AM CDT up reply actions  

True story.

Guy who wrote this is a fan of USC and goes by “TeamLA”, methinks there may be a little Trojan bias at play here as well.

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by ronburgundy7427 on Aug 29, 2011 11:31 AM CDT up reply actions  

“Guy who wrote this is a fan of USC and goes by "TeamLA", methinks there may be a little Trojan bias at play here as well.”

Have no problem saying that I was a USC fan, not presently with Kiffin, and that I want Johnson to succeed despite his injuries. I honestly think he will be fine playing with the Titans or not. I have no ill will towards him or any running back on the team. I think a lot of focus has been on CJ and the quarterbacks and began thinking in a different direction. Don’t have to agree with me, all I was doing was trying to get some other perspective and have a distinguished conversations about the Titans.

by TeamLA on Aug 31, 2011 4:37 AM CDT up reply actions  

Fair enough, appreciate the honesty and the hatred towards Kiffin.

I do like Johnson and wish him the best of luck after the injuries and rehab he has gone through. The reality is with the best RB in the league and two draft picks (Ringer and Harper) ahead of him, he is the longest of long shots to make this roster.

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by ronburgundy7427 on Aug 31, 2011 9:33 AM CDT up reply actions  

"Sort of good?"

 Rookie season: 201 carries / 1007 yards & 6 TD’s. Great rookie season!

by TeamLA on Aug 31, 2011 4:28 AM CDT up reply actions  

Wow the NFL.

There’s no damn conspiracy. The coaching staff is trying to find the best players to keep on the team. All they do is look at and think about these players 24/7 so they are going to know what’s going on tenfold over any of us.

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by BythePowerofMunchak! on Aug 29, 2011 12:39 PM CDT reply actions  

Yep

I’m pretty sure a coach is willing to get a better player and admit he made a mistake on another.

by F1 Titan on Aug 30, 2011 6:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

Go ahead...

I drafted him 3rd in one league, and 6th in another.

by bullrider73 on Aug 29, 2011 3:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

No update as of now.

The guess all along has been that he’ll sign at some point later this week/weekend and have all of next week to get ready for the opener. Going by that timeline, I’d take him.

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by ronburgundy7427 on Aug 29, 2011 3:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

its funny cause im a jags fan, and at 8, i might be looking at either CJ or MJD LOL

i dont know if i can pass MJD being a jags fan, itd be so unlike me to take CJ there lol, but odds are looking towards him getting the contract and playing week 1 vs us ?

by FgallosJAGS on Aug 29, 2011 4:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

Why on earth did you join MCM just to post this bad fan fiction?

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by rothbard on Aug 29, 2011 3:46 PM CDT reply actions   1 recs

i guess because his vagina started hurting when he found out Stafon Johnson was...

being conspired against because the new coaching staff hates him and all people with the last name of Johnson.

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by BythePowerofMunchak! on Aug 29, 2011 4:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

You are no longer worth responding to, grow up! You appear to be intelligent and then you resort to gibberish.

by TeamLA on Aug 29, 2011 4:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

because this whole thing is a joke

and your entire post is gibberish. please don’t respond to any more of my comments and go back to putting your head up your ass

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by BythePowerofMunchak! on Aug 29, 2011 4:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

He hates you.

You have been banned from Stampede Blue.
Calling a site admin a ‘fuhrer’ gets you banned without warning.

by StPrattrick on Aug 29, 2011 10:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

correct!

I'm a fake Titan fan and proud of it.

by BythePowerofMunchak! on Aug 31, 2011 9:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

You hate me because

I have much better depth of character than you? Solid.

by F1 Titan on Aug 31, 2011 11:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

no because you're taking this far too seriously

character is irrelevant in an internet thread

I'm a fake Titan fan and proud of it.

by BythePowerofMunchak! on Sep 1, 2011 3:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

So, you bolded "maybe" on your preface..

Really? Maybe?
The only chance you could sound crazier than this post is if you wrote it with CJ being here.

"He's an amazing talent. He's probably the most explosive back since Marshall Faulk and Barry Sanders." - Eddie George, about CJ.

by criollo_pcg on Aug 29, 2011 4:21 PM CDT reply actions  

I put “maybe” in bold print because nothing is ever for certain. I wrote a post to get you thinking about the rb position from a different perspective. If you are certain about what goes on the organization and have no problems then I have no problem with that. I asked is there a conspiracy and you can answer no, I believe they are making the right decisions. I have no problem with that either. What is baffling me is that because I’m asking questions, people think I’m against player and decisions. This is a blog people. They are written to get you to think.

by TeamLA on Aug 29, 2011 4:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

No

They are making the right decisions

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by JustinS on Aug 29, 2011 4:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

but what you posted does not add to credible, intelligent thinking

you have a bright future writing for the Bleacher Report

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by BythePowerofMunchak! on Aug 29, 2011 4:33 PM CDT up reply actions   3 recs

This is what did it for me bro
With all this being said I am left with a series of questions: Is Harper indeed Ringers replacement and possibly CJ’s? Is S. Johnson being held back so he doesn’t outperform the newly drafted and highly touted Harper? Is Donaldson going to make the team and not S. Johnson? Why is there so much happening at this position and no one speaking out about it?

You are accusing this blog of ignoring a conspiracy theory that you have conjured up in your head. You make it seem as though we are all cowards that don’t want to uncover the “truth” about why Stafon Johnson dislocated his ankle and broke his leg last year and most likely will have to slowly work back into playing shape isn’t getting the opportunities that YOU (someone who does not have NFL experience) want him to have.

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by BythePowerofMunchak! on Aug 29, 2011 4:40 PM CDT reply actions  

I disagree.

It seems like he’s just writing a fanpost to get us to look at something he may have thought of. You don’t have to be such a jerk to this guy, he just has a different perspective on things.

by F1 Titan on Aug 29, 2011 7:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

Exactly

It’s all “the new coaches didn’t sign Stafon (even though it’s the same FO) so they can’t play him because he’s too good”. That really really really really doesn’t make any sense.

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by rothbard on Aug 29, 2011 9:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

Please quote where I said this? Matter of fact tell me where I said that Stafon was the only back that might be affected. I did say that him not getting the chance to prove himself may effect his chances of making the team, but that’s about it on him. Where are the questions I asked about Ringer, Harper and Donaldson and even CJ? We are taught that reading comprehension is one of the most important parts of language. Words are only words if you can’t understand them. If my sentence structure or grammar is off and you can’t understand what I wrote, then that’s my fault. Unfortunately in this case it’s your comprehension. how, because you are stating things that were never said. Please jump off the “Stafon” wagon that everyone’s riding because that’s really not what this was about.

by TeamLA on Aug 31, 2011 4:10 AM CDT up reply actions  

isn't this it?
Is S. Johnson being held back so he doesn’t outperform the newly drafted and highly touted Harper?

S. Johnson is not being held back. Everyone that goes to practice regularly has said pretty much the same thing: “Johnson is not an NFL back”. Sorry. Hallmark Channel movie? Yes. NFL RB, no

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by rothbard on Aug 31, 2011 9:33 AM CDT up reply actions  

I asked this question in a series of questions. If you pull this out and act as though it’s my main topic then I can understand your responce, but if you look at the paragraph it’s obvious that I’m asking about the RB position as a whole. I got it, you think it’s all about S. Johnson, but believe me it’s not. I asked about CJ minutes, Harper replacing Ringer, etc. . Time will tell everything and I wish everyone the best.

by TeamLA on Aug 31, 2011 2:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

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by StPrattrick on Aug 29, 2011 10:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thanks for posting your pic. Great to see what you look like in your work uniform. Your protective gear needs a new update, maybe you should try one of those yellow hardhats everyone wears.

by TeamLA on Aug 31, 2011 4:12 AM CDT up reply actions  

BUT WHAT DO YOU THINK OF MY SHADES!?!

I LOOK LIKE KANYE!!!!!!1

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by StPrattrick on Aug 31, 2011 9:38 AM CDT up reply actions  

They are high fashion

by TeamLA on Aug 31, 2011 2:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't agree with what he's saying either.

But at least I don’t put him down about posting this. Way to make people feel welcome, guys.

by F1 Titan on Aug 30, 2011 5:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thanks for the welcome

“I don’t agree with what he’s saying either.”

If you don’t mind me asking… I understand you don’t agree with what i’m saying ,which is fine, but do you understand what I wrote? What’s your opinion on the RB situation? I would really like to hear your opinion.

by TeamLA on Aug 31, 2011 4:17 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I understand it.

The thing I’m saying is, all in all, a coach would be willing to admit he made a mistake to have a good player on the team, imo. Plus, as fans, we have much less info than the coaches on these players. For all we know, he could be doing terribly in practices.

by F1 Titan on Aug 31, 2011 11:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

"It seems like he’s just writing a fanpost to get us to look at something he may have thought of..."

It’s great to know that there are people, on this site, that can appreciate a different point of view. I agree and disagree with people all the time and manage to voice myself with dignity. I know it’s difficult to get people to just think about something different from what they believe. I never imposed my beliefs on anyone and really asked people to think about it and give their perspective. At the end of the day people are who they are and believe what they want. No blog post will change that.

by TeamLA on Aug 29, 2011 11:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

i agree. hes getting so much hate for some reason

i think everyone is picking it up from rothbard.

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by Lobotomyze on Aug 31, 2011 2:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

Rothbard = Satan

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by StPrattrick on Aug 31, 2011 2:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

IT'S WORKING!!!1

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by rothbard on Aug 31, 2011 2:50 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

I'm really disappointed my name wasn't mentioned as well :o(

time to step-up my game

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by StPrattrick on Aug 31, 2011 3:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

“It appears to me that the conspiracy is simple. The Titans have hired a coach that wants to separate himself from Fisher and begin his new coaching era. The problem with this is oftentimes people are sideswiped with these plans. It’s clear that Stafon Johnson is a player that will be affected by this transition, but what’s not so obvious is that Javon Ringer and Chris Johnson will be too.”

I never accused anyone of ignoring a conspiracy and even plainly stated what I thought the conspiracy was and it did not include one RB, but all of them. Maybe my name is what’s bothering you, but I will say it again…This is not a Johnson thing it’s about the Titans.

by TeamLA on Aug 31, 2011 4:24 AM CDT up reply actions  

no your post in general is what bothered me

and i’m continually regretting the amount of time I’ve wasted reading your bull shit and your lack of sense of humor in regards to the responses to your ridiculous questions.

I'm a fake Titan fan and proud of it.

by BythePowerofMunchak! on Aug 31, 2011 9:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

Maybe the already know what they have in Johnson from the first 3 games and are looking how Harper can carry the load and see what Donaldson has to offer.

by benginat0r on Aug 29, 2011 10:56 PM CDT reply actions  

Possibly, I believe that all 3 backs have potential and could make “a” team.

by TeamLA on Aug 29, 2011 11:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

Dude, the reason for this...
Herb Donaldson was a practice squad player last year and was listed as being 5th on the running back depth chart, under S. Johnson, but for some reason has entered the game before Johnson the last two weeks? I guess no one has bothered to ask why?

….is because it’s preseason. The guys that get the most playing time in preseason, are most likely the guys who are going to get cut. All they’re trying to do now is to look at the back ups to see which ones they are going to keep, and which ones they’re going to cut. Keep in mind that Munch wants to field the very best team that he can come week one of the regular season. And he’ll cut or keep anyone he wants to make sure that he has the best come week one.

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One of these days....WHEN I have more time, WHEN I get that promotion, WHEN my ship comes in. Listen, TODAY is the day WHEN you start to put your goals into action. TODAY is the day WHEN you stop putting things off and decide that the only way the future IS going to be better is if I make TODAY WHENsday!!

by titansfan4ever on Aug 30, 2011 10:06 AM CDT reply actions  

"is because it’s preseason..."

I understand, but also feel that Johnson has as much to prove as anyone else. His injuries alone seem to be a reason to test if he’s capable of playing. I would have liked to see Herb more as well. Harper was drafted and was more than likely going to make the team. As a Titan fan(No, as a football fan), how do you know who’s best if they don’t get the same opportunity? Example, playing with and against first team O&D and with starting QB? IF, CJ doesn’t return then who plays? What if one of those three backs could even outperform Ringer? I have always been a person that believes that at the beginning of a season everyone is equal. It is not what you did the year before, it’s what you do now. I do believe that automatic positions because of years and salary sometimes cause teams to miss out on great players. What do you think, I am interested in hearing back from you.

by TeamLA on Aug 31, 2011 3:48 AM CDT up reply actions  

Exactly what is dumb? I believe that if someone can’t have a discussion and voice a point of view then then that is what’s considered unintelligent(dumb). I wrote and posted this not to have the masses agree with me, nor change their opinion. I simply stated that their is a lot going on in the rb position,excluding CJ, and no one is focusing on it. I asked who will be a Titan and if Harper was brought in to replace Ringer. I guess since my login name is TeamLA, that all I’m concerned with is Stafon Johnson. I will not deny that I want to see him succeed but never once said he would make the team. I wish people would read with an open mind instead of hearing what they want. I kept it friendly and even asked for everyone’s opinion on the RB situation. If you really read what I said the conspiracy was, I said that a new coach brings in changes and those changes can even effect guys that you would never think, like CJ and Ringer. Again, not trying to convince you of anything, but I will state for the record, “I am far from dumb and have the degrees and professional background to prove it.” If we can’t explore topics in depth as a society then we are left with close minds.

by TeamLA on Aug 31, 2011 3:34 AM CDT up reply actions  

Well, your degrees and professional background must be in dumbness, cause this comment is the second dumbest in the history of Music City Miracles:

Yes, I do believe the Titans will limit themselves to two back and will use Ahmard Hall(FB) to spell CJ.

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by gramsey712 on Aug 31, 2011 10:07 AM CDT up reply actions   4 recs

Bahahahaha

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by StPrattrick on Aug 31, 2011 10:12 AM CDT up reply actions  

Comment of the decade

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by StPrattrick on Aug 31, 2011 10:13 AM CDT up reply actions  

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by StPrattrick on Aug 31, 2011 10:30 AM CDT up reply actions   3 recs

I <3 this google image

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by rothbard on Aug 31, 2011 11:32 AM CDT up reply actions  

Google Images thank you for making me popular around MCM

I owe it all to you.

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by StPrattrick on Aug 31, 2011 11:43 AM CDT up reply actions  

That's exactly what I said.

Apparently, some people on this site forgot how to be nice.

by F1 Titan on Aug 30, 2011 5:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

Maybe it is idiotic.

Maybe you calling me a fag for being against using derogatory terms when you disagree with someone is idiotic. You need to grow up.

by F1 Titan on Aug 31, 2011 10:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

i know you have great expertise in movie references

but you need to develop your sense of humor if you’re going to participate

I'm a fake Titan fan and proud of it.

by BythePowerofMunchak! on Sep 1, 2011 3:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

Using a homophobic slur is not a joke.

But, fine, maybe I’m taking it too seriously. I just feel you’re taking the “humor” too far. And, serious question here, what do you mean with the movie references?

by F1 Titan on Sep 1, 2011 6:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

How are we not talking about the Rusty Smith conspiracy!!!

Manchuk only brought in Hasselbeck because Rusty’s from the Fisher admin!!! Give the guy a chance!!

(this post is where I keep my sarcasm)

Hey, man. Brady was drafted 199th overall.
176th doesn't looks so bad, now does it?

by I Believe in Rusty Smith on Aug 31, 2011 3:46 PM CDT reply actions   1 recs

I'll concede being rude in this thread and I apologize for not intelligently engaging your questions

But me reading about this preposterous conspiracy is just as frustrating as the lack of intelligent responses you received.

That being said … this post is still ludicrous and now it’s completely irrelevant with CJ back.

And I’ll work on ‘growing up’ if you work on ‘chilling out’

I'm a fake Titan fan and proud of it.

by BythePowerofMunchak! on Sep 1, 2011 4:22 PM CDT reply actions   1 recs

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