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Bud Adams Weighs In On Chris Johnson's Contract....Oh Boy!

It is a real shame that we don't hear from Bud Adams more than we do. It seems like he always has something valuable to add to whatever issue it is facing the Titans. Terry McCormick talked to Bud Adams about the Chris Johnson holdout, and here is some of what Bud had to say:

"I'm not gonna make any offer with the way he's acting. Life's too short."

I am not really even sure what that means.

This situation is starting to get ugly. Both sides are at fault here, but the Titans should have been focused on getting this done before Larry Fitzgerald got his money. I don't agree with CJ thinking that Fitz's contract is comparable to his, but he does and there is nothing anyone can do to change that.

Mike Reinfeldt finally admitted that the two sides aren't close on a deal. I think the next move has to be the Titans offering him a contract with close to $30 million guaranteed. I really think the majority of the people out there have been on Johnson's side in this whole thing, but that is starting to change with each week that running game looks good, and you better believe it would change if it got out that he turned down $30 million.

Regardless of the numbers, it is time for the two sides to sit down and work the regular season is only 2 weeks away. The last thing this team needs is this dragging into the games that matter.

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by rothbard on Aug 22, 2011 8:28 AM CDT reply actions   2 recs

An All Pro safety

With a double chin. Intimidating.

by tdtommyd on Aug 22, 2011 9:01 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

the current ticking contract bomb

is Frank Gore. You know he is going for more than Deangelo, so it will only raise the bar further. if Gore signs a new deal, it will be way worse than the Fitzgerald deal because he’s a running back. get. it. done.

Also, it’s nothing short of hilarious to read that from double barrel Bud. This is the man who gave vunce eleventy million dollars to act like a petulant little child over, and over, and over again (and to suck at playing football). somebody up this dudes meds and put the oxygen mask back on, as nothing good will ever come from him talking to the media about team operations.

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by hal41605 on Aug 22, 2011 8:48 AM CDT reply actions   1 recs

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This is the man who gave vunce eleventy million dollars

The other way to look at this is that Bud upheld his end of the bargain (sticking to Vince’s rookie deal) for the time he was on the roster.

Bud and the FO just want CJ to show up to work, and perform under his current contract, while they work out a new deal. I don’t think that’s unreasonable.

by SuperHorn on Aug 22, 2011 9:04 AM CDT up reply actions  

RE:

The other way to look at this is that Bud upheld his end of the bargain (sticking to Vince’s rookie deal) for the time he was on the roster.

translation: bud wasted a ton of money on a dud QB who should have been cut after he quit on us the first time in year 2

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by hal41605 on Aug 22, 2011 9:38 AM CDT up reply actions  

and please define "the way he's acting"

is he shooting off middle fingers on live TV? going on suicide watch after Week 1? throwing his shit in the stands?

no, he’s doing exactly what every single underpaid NFL player does to get a new deal. why is it this specific case when that is such a big deal? NFL players hold out to get paid, the sky is blue, dog bites man.

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by hal41605 on Aug 22, 2011 9:47 AM CDT up reply actions  

I believe "the way he's acting"

refers to staying in Orlando with 2yrs remaining on his deal while whining about wanting a new one.

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by rothbard on Aug 22, 2011 9:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

oh so you mean holding out

that NEVER happens in the NFL

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by hal41605 on Aug 22, 2011 9:57 AM CDT up reply actions  

Holdouts always get their way, amiright?

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by rothbard on Aug 22, 2011 10:02 AM CDT up reply actions  

more often than not, yes

frank gore is holding out and he’s due almost $5 mil this year. it would be one thing if Cj’s deal weren’t an order of magnitude or so below what he’s worth, but it is, so of course he’s holding out.

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by hal41605 on Aug 22, 2011 10:13 AM CDT up reply actions  

well, that's some petty shit to lose your best player over.

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by hal41605 on Aug 22, 2011 10:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

again, who gives a fuck?

this is the NFL. they are not like us. deal with it.

we’re not even talking a practice. not a game, not practice, we’re talking about….talking?

the bottom line is all that matters, either they get him in or they don’t, the rest is just noise.

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by hal41605 on Aug 22, 2011 10:27 AM CDT up reply actions  

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the bottom line is all that matters, either they get him in or they don’t, the rest is just noise.

This much we can agree on.

by SuperHorn on Aug 22, 2011 10:32 AM CDT up reply actions  

but that's the root of my frustration

way too much focus on the noise, at least from the FO and Buddyboy. CJ has been pretty silent save a few typically indecipherable tweets.

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by hal41605 on Aug 22, 2011 10:38 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'd be surprised if Gore gets his way

1) Last year of current deal
2) Aging back
3) Injury history

Pretty much a totally different situation than CJ

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by rothbard on Aug 22, 2011 10:22 AM CDT up reply actions  

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no, he’s doing exactly what every single underpaid NFL player does to get a new deal.

No, he’s acting like a fucking child.

The whole thing has an adversarial vibe to it that rubs me the wrong way. Desean Jackson is in a very similar position, yet he found his way into camp, and even onto the field. Psychologically, taking a hard line stance in negotiations is seldom a good idea. CJ’s unwillingness to even meet with the organization shows a total lack of respect and immaturity. It forgets the fact that the organization gave him this opportunity in the first place, taking a first round flyer on another speed back that virtually every fan thought was a ridiculous pick. Then, after making him the feature back, giving him the requisite carries in the last game if 2009 so he’d be allowed to attain his CJ2k moniker.

CJ needs to understand that the front office is made of people as well, and taking this adversarial, me vs. them approach will not be well received. Even if the FO is wrong in his mind, CJ would be wise to stroke their ego.

by SuperHorn on Aug 22, 2011 10:13 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

he played nice last year, accepted a little bump, and took them at their word

where exactly did that get him?

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by hal41605 on Aug 22, 2011 10:15 AM CDT up reply actions  

Sitting at his house because he won't come in to take them on their word?

They couldn’t give him a big deal last year. Surely you know this.

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by rothbard on Aug 22, 2011 10:16 AM CDT up reply actions  

right but the implication was "perform and we will take care of you next year"

and for fuck’s sake, does he not have a cell phone? who gives a damn where he is? communicate, get a deal done, stay out of the media. how is that hard?

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by hal41605 on Aug 22, 2011 10:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

So you think they really haven't talked?

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by rothbard on Aug 22, 2011 10:21 AM CDT up reply actions  

im sure they have chatted

but bud himself says they haven’t made/ won’t make an offer. that’s fucked up.

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by hal41605 on Aug 22, 2011 10:24 AM CDT up reply actions  

Reinfeldt said they wouldn't make an offer because it's a waste of time

given how far apart they are. So to say that, MR is either just making shit up, or there have been discussions with Seagal, and TeamCJ has lost their mind re: how much they are asking for.

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by rothbard on Aug 22, 2011 10:26 AM CDT up reply actions  

"waste of time"

is a ridiculous thing to call “concrete negotiations with your best player”

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by hal41605 on Aug 22, 2011 10:29 AM CDT up reply actions  

no it's not

it’s called a stalking horse offer. it gets the ball rolling and keeps people on task. and if he’s truly being ridiculous, you can say, we put X amount on paper and he wouldn’t sign. if they are gonna try and use media leverage, they might as well do it effectively.

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by hal41605 on Aug 22, 2011 10:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

Possibly a new deal if he'd show up and meet with the FO.

No one, including the FO, expects CJ to play this during this contract dispute. Sitting out of meeting while an entirely new offense is installed is amazingly selfish, though. Provided he knows the new offense, he can come into this offense and not skip a beat. I have no doubt about that. However, for that to happen, he needs some time with Chris Palmer.

by SuperHorn on Aug 22, 2011 10:20 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

more lines in the sand and petty bullshit

go to orlando, sit down with him. don’t leave unless his demands are truly outrageous and tell him “once we get on a plane back to TN, your ass either takes the deal or sits out the season.” the FO needs to be far, far more proactive than they are being.

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by hal41605 on Aug 22, 2011 10:23 AM CDT up reply actions  

Did Revis or Emmit Smith show up to meet with the during their holdouts? I would honestly like to know so I could put this in better perspective. I’m pretty sure Revis didn’t go to any team meetings or walk throughs, and I’m almost positive E Smith didn’t seeing as he held out until wk 4.
Either way I look at these two holdouts as the closest comparible holdouts to CJ. Revis because he is the last star to hold out and Smith because he is the previous top back of the NFL to holdout for an extended period.w

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by DuelDukes on Aug 22, 2011 6:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

ugh, with the FO*

Fish+Nameless+Heimerdinger+Cecil= Epic Fail
But we have a new equation F+Y+H+C= GONE!!!

by DuelDukes on Aug 22, 2011 6:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

Bud is def the wild card in all this

He could pull a Mike Brown and Palmer-ize CJ just to show off his classic business “ethics”.

by oysterhead43 on Aug 22, 2011 8:49 AM CDT reply actions  

I still disagree.

They need to offer CJ top RUNNING BACK money, and that’s all. I remember the years salary cap purgatory, and personally, I do not volunteer for more of that.

Bottom line: this team is not going to the playoffs, and with that in mind, CJ’s leverage is minute. The Titans are not going to cave, and although it’ll break a few hearts, that’s probably the right decision. Sorry guys.

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by DannoE on Aug 22, 2011 8:56 AM CDT reply actions  

But for not going to the playoffs

If Manning isn’t 90-100% by week 3, then the Titans have a shot at the division.

by tdtommyd on Aug 22, 2011 9:03 AM CDT up reply actions  

In fact

I may just put down some money on that, bc while we may not be a great team, we are being overlooked by everyone.

by tdtommyd on Aug 22, 2011 9:04 AM CDT up reply actions  

one player's contract isn't going to do that

unless it’s a peyton/brady sized deal, which it obviously won’t be.

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by hal41605 on Aug 22, 2011 9:04 AM CDT up reply actions  

You are right...one player's contract isn't going to do that

But, the FO has to think about the upcoming future…they’ll have to redo Britt’s contract soon (1-2 years), especially if he plays to potential he has. Same with Cook. You also have Griffin and Finnegan in need of new deals soon as well.

And, of course, if Locker pans out as the Titans believe he will then they will have to redo his contract in 2-3 years.

So, if we sign CJ to a massive deal, but lose out on some of these other players, is it worth it? Will the Titans be a better team with a >$30mln guaranteed RB but lose their best safety/CB and have difficulty signing Britt/Cook/Locker in 1-3 years?

The Titans are definitely a better team with CJ in the backfield, but not at the price of losing out on quality players over the next 1-3 years.

by shawneriksmith on Aug 22, 2011 9:13 AM CDT up reply actions  

Playoffs or not has nothing to do with leverage.

CJ’s leverage is minute because he still has two years left on his deal. If the Titans really wanted to play hardball with him, they could fine the hell out of him while saying that he has two years left on his current contract, they have no obligation to re-do a deal that he agreed to and signed as a rookie.

he never will wear number 10 - Fernando brazil refering to Locker. Uh...

by ronburgundy7427 on Aug 22, 2011 9:13 AM CDT up reply actions  

and i totally reject the cap implications argument

as long as we are still paying some significantly over priced dead wood in gage, hope, washington, haye, etc. all of those guys can be replaced at a fraction of the cost they are currently hitting our cap for. spend money on elite players who actually have a future with the franchise, not over the hill vets who aren’t that good any way.

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by hal41605 on Aug 22, 2011 9:24 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yes, all that is true.

But, as SES noted above, this roster is going to evolve quickly. Locker and Britt are still playing out modest rookie deals. Provided they perform, their cap implications alone will be staggering. Even if we cut the “dead weight”, this roster cannot tolerate new contracts for CJ, Locker, and Britt alone. Not to mention Griffin and Finnegan needing new deals. And, while I’m wildly speculating, we most certainly can’t tolerate an above average DE deal should Morgan blow up.

A mega deal for CJ doesn’t limit us on it’s own, but it could potentially force us to make cuts elsewhere.

by SuperHorn on Aug 22, 2011 9:44 AM CDT up reply actions  

locker won't get a new deal for at least 3 and probably 4 years unless he is truly the holy grail

Britt will have to stay healthy and not be a jackass if he wants a big one.
Griffin is a middle of the road safety at best until he proves he can stop getting torched on play action.
Finnegan is good, but by no means elite.
Morgan is sight unseen.

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by hal41605 on Aug 22, 2011 9:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

Locker is on a 4 year contract only

I am sure if he plays next year (and plays well) then his agent will be asking for a new deal (and the Titans will be smart to pay up for a franchise QB).

If Britt has a 1000+ yard and 8+ TD season that we all think he is capable of, then he’ll be asking for a new contract…will he hold out like CJ??

Griffin is better than middle of the road…and if we lose him next year (and Hope this year) then we will be counting on unproven rookies only.

I don’t think Finnegan is elite, but he is in his last year of his contract, so if the Titans want to keep him, then they’ll have to re-sign him.

True, Morgan hasn’t made an impact due to his injury, but he does have the talent and DEs cost a lot (see Charles Johnson in Carolina). So, the Titans would have to pay.

If all these players do play up to their potential, then that would probably mean the Titans made a push in the playoffs, so you get what you pay for.

But, the Titans can’t hamstring themselves by spending twice as much on the RB position as all the other teams in the NFL do (which at $40mln guaranteed, they would be doing)…CJ plays a position that is not valued (similar to inside linebacker or tight end).

For example, Antonio Gates was extended last year at only $20mln guaranteed. Doesn’t Gates require defenses to change their schemes? Is he not a “playmaker”?

The Titans should offer no more than $30mln guaranteed but it sounds like CJ wants much more than that. If he does, then let him sit out and fine him.

by shawneriksmith on Aug 22, 2011 10:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

"will he hold out like CJ?"

if the FO caves with a monster contract now, then he probably will. I say not one penny in guarantees over 30 mil…and I would hate offering that, but if he wants more than 10-12 mil a year then I say we let him sit.
Also interesting note, if we sign CJ what happens if Britt blows up and we pay him more than CJ? That would be some crazy shit to watch the reactions.

Fish+Nameless+Heimerdinger+Cecil= Epic Fail
But we have a new equation F+Y+H+C= GONE!!!

by DuelDukes on Aug 22, 2011 6:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

also I’d cut Gage, Hope and Haye an resign Finny asap. His preseason showing is all i need to know to resign him if he want 5 years at around the same price we have him for right now. Get him now before he has a big season and commands real money in the market. I’d give him a 30 mil (total contract )deal over 5 years.

Fish+Nameless+Heimerdinger+Cecil= Epic Fail
But we have a new equation F+Y+H+C= GONE!!!

by DuelDukes on Aug 22, 2011 6:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

I can’t believe how bad my grammar is on blogs. Apologies to my english teacher of old, she would be disappointed.

Fish+Nameless+Heimerdinger+Cecil= Epic Fail
But we have a new equation F+Y+H+C= GONE!!!

by DuelDukes on Aug 22, 2011 6:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

Britt

is nowhere close to CJ’s level in terms of performance, and he’s injury prone, and he’s cop bait. if Britt thinks he should get that level of money, he better have an outstanding next 2 seasons.

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by hal41605 on Aug 23, 2011 9:24 AM CDT up reply actions  

Fitz > CJ

Fitzgerald put his team on his back and took them to within one play of a super bowl victory. Until CJ does that or magically learns the QB position, then he can keep dreaming of getting that kind of money. That is Super Bowl money and until he proves he can do that, you don’t pay it. I’m not saying he can’t……..but he has not proven anything yet when it comes to playoff football. That is what gets you paid the mega bucks in this business.

by sjbmail on Aug 22, 2011 9:00 AM CDT reply actions  

you cant compare them..

one had kurt warner and boldin playing aside him..the other kerry collins, rusty smith, and that other headcase, whatever his name was..

by Ferface on Aug 22, 2011 9:30 AM CDT up reply actions  

Not to mention that play different positions

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by rothbard on Aug 22, 2011 9:31 AM CDT up reply actions  

We aren't as rich as the other teams

I suspect Bud’s pockets aren’t as deep as other owners. Also, we aren’t a high profile team, and Nashville isn’t exactly a big wealthy city (compared to places like Chicago, NY, Philly, Boston).

by tdtommyd on Aug 22, 2011 9:34 AM CDT up reply actions  

That really doesn't mean anything.

Since there is a cap and all. Revenue is separate from how much they can spend on players, so market size and wealth of the team/owner has nothing to do with how much they can spend on players.

he never will wear number 10 - Fernando brazil refering to Locker. Uh...

by ronburgundy7427 on Aug 22, 2011 9:36 AM CDT up reply actions  

Tell that to the Buffalo Bills, Cinci Bengals

Yes there is a cap and revenue sharing, but not all teams have the same revenue and some teams still struggle with meeting the cap minimum.
I am not saying we struggle, but we can’t be frivilous with money like some other teams.

by tdtommyd on Aug 22, 2011 9:46 AM CDT up reply actions  

They may struggle generating revenue.

But that does not mean ipso facto that they can’t pay players. All teams are required to meet the cap minimum, the CHOICE on how far OVER the minimum to go is up to the individual teams for now until that 99% of the cap rule kicks in. Spending on players is an entirely separate issue from how much revenue a team generates from gate, concessions, merch and so forth. That number will obviously vary based on market size and popularity, spending for the roster has to happen regardless and is only affected by revenue in-so-much as an owner like Mike Brown (Bengals) may choose to only barely go over the cap minimum to keep costs down, versus a team like the Colts pushing the limit in order to field a competitive team and pay Manning.

he never will wear number 10 - Fernando brazil refering to Locker. Uh...

by ronburgundy7427 on Aug 22, 2011 10:04 AM CDT up reply actions  

Which one is it?

First you say that revenue has nothing to do with what a team spends on players, then you admit that some teams barely go over the cap minimum because of low revenue?

by tdtommyd on Aug 22, 2011 10:25 AM CDT up reply actions  

None of those teams are us

We aren’t far under the cap max.

Titans are cheap perception = they don’t tend to spend big in FA or spend a lot on veteran positions other than QB.

Titans are cheap perception NOT = they don’t spend as much on salary as other teams do. They do. They are rarely at the top of the “how far under the cap” lists.

by numbertenox on Aug 22, 2011 11:06 AM CDT up reply actions  

This may have been posted earlier this weekend, but this is from CJ's Twitter:

ChrisJohnson28 Chris Johnson
Yes sir RT @LarryFitzgerald: @ChrisJohnson28 thanks CJ you up next my guy

by SuperHorn on Aug 22, 2011 9:14 AM CDT reply actions  

CJ's Contract

Mr. Adams might be acting a bit like a petulant child, but the fact remains that the team needs to get CJ under contract in the next week for him to have a chance to play in the season opener.

CJ wants QB money without being a QB. Never going to happen. Also, with all his incredible stats, he has never won a playoff game for the Titans.

I’m sure the team could try to trade CJ2K, but doubt they will get the value they expect. Most teams cannot afford CJ2K’s asking price. Also, many teams regard the running back position as one where the backs are interchangeable or utilize a running by committee approach.

So where does that leave Chris Johnson and the Titans? Frankly, the Titans will pay him more than any other team will — and Johnson needs to realize that he will never be worth more to the Titans than he is today.

I figure this will end with a 6 year, 45 million dollar contract with 30-35 million guaranteed.

The sooner they get it done, the better off the Titans and Johnson will be…..

by MaxTitans on Aug 22, 2011 9:32 AM CDT reply actions  

Let him holdout.

WTF: Appropriate initials given my thought processes.

by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Aug 22, 2011 10:13 AM CDT reply actions  

^ this

He’s great, maybe the best. But if he dont show, this team is more than capable. They might lose, but would rather they lose with guys who want to be here! Should he get paid yes….should he get overpaid no!

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by MexicanTitanFreak on Aug 22, 2011 10:20 AM CDT up reply actions  

CJ and his agent

Need to head to Nashville, lock themselves in a room with the FO, and not leave till a deal is done. You can’t get a good deal for both sides without negotiations face to face.

by Dynamic Dreadlocks on Aug 22, 2011 11:44 AM CDT via mobile reply actions  

TO ALL

Is it NOT Obvious yet? When both sides go back and forth this, it’s only a PR Game. They are only bickering back and forth to make the other party look bad. Few of us will look at CJ as the blame here; as he Really has the leverage of being the Fastest RB ever in the league. Adam’s Comments & affinity for our GM are ruining our team. Fisher actually brought more players to our team than Mike ever accomplished. All Mike has brought us is a tired Randy Moss, aging Nate Washington, partying Kenny Britt, & ONE ATV.

I see this as BUD ADAMS trying to make CJ look as the bad guy to cast him out, THEN he has a reason to trade him. Then CJ WILL GO to Miami, Washington, or Buffalo for a few first round picks. Losing our most explosive weapon on offense is like taking Patrick Willis off the 49ers D. It would KILL our entire offense. I understood Vunce had to go; I can handle that. But deporting CJ will not HELP your ORGANIZATION make more $ BUD!

This is one time we ALL are looking @ the FRONT OFFICE TO PAY UP.

TICK TOCK MIKE.

WHAT A F’N WASTE OF A GENERAL MANAGER.

PISS ON YOU M.R.

BUD: I suppose we Titans Fans will HAVE to resort all our of support into Cook, ATV, & a rookie QB, since your RB isn’t good enough for you!

by titanwarrior1 on Aug 22, 2011 11:57 AM CDT reply actions  

if you want him to be traded...

then keep allowing him to hold out.

If you want him to REMAIN A TITAN;

tell them to pay him now!

by titanwarrior1 on Aug 22, 2011 12:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

speak for yourself

I know you’re butthurt that we didn’t draft 7 corners and grab 3 more in free agency, but that’s no excuse for this dumbass post. You lost it at the very beginning with:

Fisher actually brought more players to our team than Mike ever accomplished. All Mike has brought us is a tired Randy Moss, aging Nate Washington, partying Kenny Britt, & ONE ATV

You left at least one out. Know who that is? Reinfeldt drafted CJ.

gtfo

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by rothbard on Aug 22, 2011 12:13 PM CDT up reply actions   3 recs

and if he doesn't get this shit done

he will also be the one that got rid of him

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by hal41605 on Aug 22, 2011 12:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sure

If CJ is gone, I’m sticking with CJ got rid of himself.

(Doesn’t matter, he’s not going anywhere)

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by rothbard on Aug 22, 2011 12:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

(Doesn’t matter, he’s not going anywhere)

if he's not signed by week one, he's sitting. and you know what? I wouldn't have it any other way.

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by danielreese05 on Aug 22, 2011 12:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

As in you don't want him traded?

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by rothbard on Aug 22, 2011 12:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

pretty much. of course, if it’s for multiple high picks, I could be persuaded, but it won’t be,.

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by danielreese05 on Aug 22, 2011 12:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thank you, rothbard.

I personally think Reinfeldt has done a pretty good job at G.M. and drafting talent.

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by J3G77 on Aug 22, 2011 12:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

CJ does have leverage...the Titans have more.

All they have to do is point to his existing contract and say, “You have two years left on this deal that you agreed to and signed. We don’t have to renegotiate at all, you can stay at home and not play this year or next if you really want. We’ll just fine the hell out of you and under your current numbers you’ll end up in the red very quickly.”

he never will wear number 10 - Fernando brazil refering to Locker. Uh...

by ronburgundy7427 on Aug 22, 2011 2:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

Isn't he already in the red?

He doesn’t get paid for sitting at home does he?

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by rothbard on Aug 22, 2011 2:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

I suppose it depends on how much he's saved up.

I’m thinking if/when a deal is reached, they’ll waive those fines, so my argument above is operating more under the assumption of a very hardline stance and negotiations going to the innermost circle of hell. In that instance, under his current numbers those fines would overtake his salary very quick.

he never will wear number 10 - Fernando brazil refering to Locker. Uh...

by ronburgundy7427 on Aug 22, 2011 2:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

rec'd

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by hal41605 on Aug 22, 2011 12:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

sad

CJ needs to get about 25M guaranteed. Team can do that. We’ve got to quit with the drama and PLAY BALL.

by ajhjack on Aug 22, 2011 2:07 PM CDT reply actions  

I don't think that's the problem

I am 99% confident that TN would pay $25m, and that CJ wants >35m or so

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by rothbard on Aug 22, 2011 2:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

Pay the man.

But don’t pay obscene amounts.

Lol CJ if he thinks he’s going to get a Fitz-level contract.

by FYNBYAC on Aug 22, 2011 4:36 PM CDT reply actions  

2 Options....

1) Pay CJ an OBSCENE AMOUNT OF $$$ – 80 million should cover it?

2) Trade him to SF, WASH, TB, or any other NFC team

or you all can keep arguing, complaining, & bickering what Mike M., Mike R., or Bud will keep Reiterating for the next months how it’s all Chris’s Fault!!!!

by titanwarrior1 on Aug 23, 2011 8:48 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yea its CJs fault....

for running so hard and getting 4000+ yards in 3 seasons!

by datboybevans on Aug 23, 2011 9:31 AM CDT reply actions  

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