NFL CBA: Who Do You Blame That A Deal Isn't Done?

by Jimmy on Jul 22, 2011 9:30 AM CDT in Reader Surveys

I posed this question back in March and 43% of the people who voted blamed both sides for the lockout. So now, 4 months later, I pose the same question.

Poll

Who do you blame that a deal isn't done yet?

Owners

69 votes

Players

112 votes

Both

159 votes

340 votes | Poll has closed

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Its clear that the owners tried to pull a fast one.

All of the signs of hidden agendas and supplemental funds not being discussed is fishy to say the least

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by Bonafidebrother on Jul 22, 2011 9:33 AM CDT reply actions

But I still think it is both because...

it should have never gotten to this point. It should have been resolved months ago, if not last year.

It's all fun and games until someone gets a concussion from a stray flying footbal. *cough* Kerry *cough*

by MikeGriffFan27 on Jul 22, 2011 9:47 AM CDT up reply actions

There are actually no signs the owners pulled a fast one

What are these supposed signs?

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by rothbard on Jul 22, 2011 11:26 AM CDT up reply actions

He must have been tweeting with Heath Evans.

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by StPrattrick on Jul 22, 2011 11:29 AM CDT up reply actions

exactly

Player: “The owners be trying to screw us man!”
Nonplayer: “How so?”
Player: “Because they are!”
NP: “Can you give an example?”
P: “No”
NP: “So how again are they trying to screw you?”
P: “THEY ARE JUST ARE!!!!!1 DID YOU SEE WE ACTUALLY HAVE TO PRACTICE? EXPLOITATION!!!11 OMG!”

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by rothbard on Jul 22, 2011 11:31 AM CDT up reply actions

maybe that cant explain the details

outside the NFLPA and the Owners

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by Ice0ne (CAJ) on Jul 24, 2011 8:44 AM CDT up reply actions

This pretty much says it all

The players and their leadership have to stop being so ridiculously paranoid, and dead certain that the owners are trying to screw them or pull a fast one. And the owners and their leadership have to stop being unaware of the fact that the players never react well when they feel they’re being pressured into any particular decision or timetable, even if in reality they aren’t, and it’s only their perception that they are. Perception always matters, often far more than reality.

There are elements of Thursday’s bizarre turn of events that just make no sense to me, no matter how much backstory I hear. How is it that everyone seemed to be on the same page regarding the negotiating timetable needed to save the entire four weeks of the full preseason schedule, but then when the owners seemingly met that timetable and voted on their half of the deal, the players reacted like the whole effort was a rushed and thrown-together affair that didn’t correspond to their timetable? Were you two even really talking to one another on those phones and at those negotiation sessions?

How is it that anyone can seriously think or propose that in this day and age that it has to take up to two weeks for the players to recertify as a union? Just because that timeline helps support the thesis that the NFLPA decertified in a thoughtful and sober manner back in March, and might have to again in some future labor negotiation, doesn’t make it a plausible explanation. It’s transparently ridiculous. What happened to the "Let us Play’’ chant that the players side trumpeted back in January and February? Apparently they’re not in as big a rush to get back on the field as they first portrayed, because all those signature cards have to be hand collected.

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by StPrattrick on Jul 22, 2011 11:41 AM CDT up reply actions

It's still both.

Everyone is too concerned about how it looks to the public and PR and all that BS. If they werent fighting that battle it could have been negotiated and signed months ago.

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by BonzosMontreaux on Jul 22, 2011 9:50 AM CDT reply actions

Funny

It’s exactly 43% for both again, right now.

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by TennesseeTyrants on Jul 22, 2011 9:50 AM CDT reply actions

Its both, since both sides have continued to screw this up.

However, we’re just waiting on the players now, so I voted players. Don’t whine about hidden agendas and then not bring up a single point on national television when asked to enlighten the fans.

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by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Jul 22, 2011 9:59 AM CDT reply actions

Exactly

“The man is trying to hold us down!!!!”

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by StPrattrick on Jul 22, 2011 10:03 AM CDT up reply actions

I hate everyone

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by StPrattrick on Jul 22, 2011 10:02 AM CDT reply actions

Hard to judge right now

I can’t blame the players for not signing the deal if it was flawed, but it’s easy to put it on them because they got the deal to that point and backed away…

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by August West on Jul 22, 2011 10:03 AM CDT reply actions

It's all Peyton Manning's fault

he’s responsible for everything lame about the NFL

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by Grimerz757 on Jul 22, 2011 10:07 AM CDT reply actions 6 recs

I concur.

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by Jimmy on Jul 22, 2011 10:07 AM CDT up reply actions

you should put Peyton as an option in the pool!!

by criollo_pcg on Jul 22, 2011 10:11 AM CDT up reply actions

I know this for a fact

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by StPrattrick on Jul 22, 2011 10:10 AM CDT up reply actions

You mean this guy?

by SuperHorn on Jul 22, 2011 10:28 AM CDT up reply actions

That's him! That's the guy right there

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by StPrattrick on Jul 22, 2011 10:34 AM CDT up reply actions

I just threw up in my mouth a little.

by TennesseeTyrants on Jul 22, 2011 10:38 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs

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A Love that was never ment to be...

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by StPrattrick on Jul 22, 2011 10:42 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs

I blame the hip hop

and whatever my opposing political party is.

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by Bro Namath on Jul 22, 2011 10:48 AM CDT reply actions

damn kids.

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