MtD 7 round mock Titans results
by nolesbroncos3456 on Apr 4, 2011 9:02 AM CDT
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PrintOver the course of the weekend, the Mocking the Draft folks held a 7 round mock draft. It was loads of fun doing all 7 rounds. CByers and co. did a great job handling everything especially given every team had a 3 trade rule in place. There was also a 4 UDFA limit in place. Every team had 5 minutes to make a pick or email their BPA lists to CByers. Thunder64 provided some input towards this as well so a shout out to him too. I don't have some of the specific pick numbers in front of me but the results have the round numbers. Results and explanations after the Jump!!!! Jump!!!!
1 (23). Christian Ponder QB SR FSU
WHY: I traded down w/ the Eagles rep to #23 to avoid reaching for Ponder @ #8 plus I didn't like the QB options there after Gabbert went #1 overall. We also acquired the #54 and #103ish pick in return for #8 + #108. There was a run on QBs in the 1st (4 taken).
2 (54). Sam Acho DE SR Texas
WHY: The aforementioned trade w/ the Eagles landed us this pick. Acho helps us fill a need at DE and can help us transition to a 3-4 eventually as an OLB.
3 (71). Shane Vereen RB JR Cal
WHY: You're wondering why we don't have #39? well we traded down yet again w/ the Saints this time for both of their 3rd rounders. There was an insane amount of talent falling to the 3rd Round so I felt good about it. Vereen really helps the depth behind CJ2K because there barely is any + relieves the load that CJ had to carry. This pick allows us to bring along Stafon Johnson slowly from his ankle injury and makes up for losing Blount.
3 (88). Deunta Williams S SR UNC
WHY: The 2nd 3rd rounder we got. BPA safety in a weak elite safety class. Also an insurance policy if Griff reverts back to 2009 form, RJ doesn't pan out, and Hope decides to give up 6 million busted plays and missed tackles. It also means no more MCM Favorite Donnie Nickey!!!
4 (103) Cliff Matthews DE SR USCE
WHY: Another DE you ask? There was a semi run on DEs at this point in the draft and Matthews was the BPA at pure DE.
4 (130 comp pick). Akeem Dent ILB SR UGA
WHY: With the impending loss of Tulloch to a big bucks contract in Free Agency, I picked Dent who made himself a lot of money during his senior season, Senior Bowl, and his recent Pro Day. He can team up w/ former UGA teammate Rennie Curran cause absolute havoc in the middle. Dent was also the successor to Curran's MLB spot at UGA.
5. Terrell McClain DT SR USF
WHY: We needed a space eater in the middle like Fat Albert to anchor the line. McClain is a great athlete at 6'2 291 running a 4.8 40 and showed great ability in his position drills at his pro day and the combine (so much so that future HOF DT Warren Sapp and Mayock raved about him).
6. Markus White DE SR FSU
WHY - Another prospect to beef up the DLine and possible future hybrid transition. A JUCO Transfer to FSU, 2 year full time starter for the Noles. A senior campaign that made him a lot of money in the draft process. He reportedly ran a 4.7 at FSU's pro day measuring in at 6'4 270.
7. Jeremy Kerley WR JR TCU
WHY - A developmental WR prospect that can sit for awhile and also back up Mariani in returning kicks. The second most dominant WR next to Leonard Hankerson on the South team during the Senior Bowl festivities. Kerley was a steal here in the 7th when most "experts" have him projected for the 4th or 5th round.
7. Vance Cuff CB SR UGA
WHY - A decent corner who has to learn the art of playing CB some more (who better to do that than under Jerry Gray, a great CB back in the day). Most experts have him graded out as a UDFA so it isn't too much of a reach this late into it. Another return prospect that sit and learn the game.
UDFA Kris Durham WR SR UGA
WHY - A UGA WR not named AJ Green who handled playing in Green's shadow as the #2 option fairly well. A great athlete who ran track in HS and part time at UGA. Durham was snubbed out a Combine invite so he tore it up on his pro day: 6'5 217 guy who ran 4.43 40, bench rep 17 times, 35 inch vertical, 10-1 broad jump. KD showed his solid hands all throughout the process. This pick only helps to move Gage along further down the road to unemployment in a Titans uni, besides isn't it time for the Gage dropsies to become someone else's problems?
UDFA Ray Dominguez OG RS SR Arkansas
UDFA Kyle Hix OG SR Texas
UDFA Mike McNeill TE/WR RS SR Nebraska
WHY - I picked these 3 guys up to help build depth at their positions and allow some of the more unproductive guys there to move along elsewhere.
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I like the first-round trade down.
But I don’t like that some of these picks were made under the assumption of “We’re going to transition to a 3-4”. Nothing’s been mentioned along those lines by anyone from the organization, and with Gray’s history I think it’s far more likely they stick with a 4-3, maybe adding some more blitzes to that and some minor adjustments.
Also not sure about a RB in the third round when there are many more defensive needs this team has.
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by ronburgundy7427 on Apr 4, 2011 10:25 AM CDT reply actions
I agree
First round trade down was good, but there was nothing to like after that. Acho is a good prospect, but I have my doubts (and I hope we don’t) about switching to a 3-4. Overall, if the draft went like this I would not be upset, but nothing about it excites me either.
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You drafted 3 defensive ends.
Also as has been said before, no hint of a 3-4 transition coming.
We don’t need to be using a 3rd round pick on a RB, either. That’s far too early for depth we barely need.
Not a fan of this draft.
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by BonzosMontreaux on Apr 4, 2011 10:52 AM CDT reply actions
4 DL and only 1 LB?
LB was the biggest weakness on the team last year and you only draft one? Would have rather traded back into the first round to get Ponder than trade the #8 pick. Who was still there at #8, Bowers or Fairley would have been better.
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by Titans_Firefighter on Apr 4, 2011 11:13 AM CDT reply actions
No on Ponder
Like the trade down but prefer Dalton,Mallet and Locker in that order and more LBS and whats with all the UGA guys. Also darft a LB at #3 get a RB to compete for a roster spot out of the UDFA.
First round was fine
I think I’d rather take a defensive stud in the first and then trade up in the second if we feel someone like Dalton is going to get picked before we get to him.
That being said, if the draft went something like this, I would absolutely be fine with it. Ponder could be a really solid NFL QB so I’m all for drafting him if we can.
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I am a fan of trading down so I like moving from 8 to 23 and landing Ponder and an extra pick.
But I think you traded down too much. You kept moving back, which isn’t a bad strategy, but your overall draft lacks talent- sure you filled the needs but having an abundance of late round DEs is not going to make this team better. Ideally, taking a quick glance at this, I would have taken Ponder/Dalton at 23, and then landed a DT like Austin or Wilkerson at 39. I would rather have the 39th pick than the 3rd round RB and S. Neither will contribute to the team this year. I give you a high grade for covering the needs we have, but you get docked a lot of marks because only Ponder will improve our team.
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by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Apr 4, 2011 12:31 PM CDT reply actions
I agree
I like the trade down in the 1st round, but I would probably stay put after that and land a DT/DE with that #39 pick.
Overall, not bad though…
by shawneriksmith on Apr 4, 2011 12:33 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm looking at the full draft now
When the Titans were on the clock in the 2nd round, the following players were still available: Rahim Moore (S), Martez Wilson (ILB), Bruce Carter (OLB), Marcus Cannon (OG), Rodney Hudson (OG), Stephen Paea (DT), and Marvin Austin (DT).
I would have preferred any of those guys (especially, Moore/Paea/Austin).
Even after trading down, there was still Bruce Carter (OLB), Mason Foster (OLB), and Marvin Austin (DT) still available…
I think your assumption of the Titans eventually switching to a 3-4 D are not founded at all and really skewed this draft.
However, if the draft played out this way (trading down, landing Ponder + extra pick, and having that defensive talent available in the 2nd round) then I would be happy.
by shawneriksmith on Apr 4, 2011 12:43 PM CDT up reply actions
3rd round
I would have chosen John Moffitt (OG), Greg Jones (LB), or Quan Sturdivant (ILB). Nothing necessarily against Shane Vereen but there will be good RBs that complement CJ better in later rounds…
Deunta Williams is a solid selection in the late 3rd round pick.
by shawneriksmith on Apr 4, 2011 12:47 PM CDT up reply actions
In that case I would have gone:
Ponder, Austin at 39, and Jones in the third. That would be one heckuva draft for us.
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by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Apr 4, 2011 12:49 PM CDT up reply actions
I would probably put Sturdivant above Jones
for his pass defense, but either way, I would be very happy with those 3 players.
Then, leave the rest of the picks for defensive secondary, offensive line, and possibly big RB and/or blocking TE.
Great draft if this happens.
by shawneriksmith on Apr 4, 2011 12:52 PM CDT up reply actions
haters gonna hate lol
if we qualify Acho as a OLB it means that I took and signed:
1 QB
1 RB
2 DLs
2 LBs
2 DBs
2 OLs
1 WR
1 TE
it’s a good draft there, look at the whole thing instead of just focusing on one position, folks
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by nolesbroncos3456 on Apr 4, 2011 1:52 PM CDT reply actions
You just dismiss the criticism by saying "haters gonna hate?"
Then don’t even bother to ask for our input.
Its not a good draft. You just assume we will move to a 3-4 based on what? You don’t get us any DTs, only DEs. You traded out of a quality second round spot to pick up 2 mediocre 3rd rounders. It also doesn’t take a genius to figure out why you traded down to take Ponder.
Mediocre draft, terrible response to criticism.
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by BonzosMontreaux on Apr 4, 2011 2:14 PM CDT up reply actions
last i checked, Terrell McClain is a DT
so there’s your DT for you. There might be a possible move to a 3-4 so I’m just setting up for the future.
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by nolesbroncos3456 on Apr 4, 2011 2:22 PM CDT up reply actions
Where are you getting info on a move to a 3-4?
What future other than the one YOU speculate are you talking about?
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by BonzosMontreaux on Apr 4, 2011 2:53 PM CDT up reply actions
it has been thrown about here when the coaching changes started off
just playing to that crowd somewhat.
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by nolesbroncos3456 on Apr 4, 2011 3:04 PM CDT up reply actions
those were from outside looks like ppl who work at espn and such
he said we stay 4-3, with a few 3-4 looks in certain situations
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Sure, you acquired DLs, QB, LBs,
but how many will actually turn into something? Ponder hopefully will be a starting QB. Apart from that I see nothing but spare parts who won’t amount to much.
Your draft reminds me of the story of the kid who traded a dollar for two quarters, and then two quarters for three dimes, and the three dimes for four nickels, and turned that into five pennies. Sure you grabbed a lot of picks, but I can’t get too excited about having a zillion third, fourth and fifth round picks. We need impact players. Your chances of finding them are better in the first and second rounds. Props for actually doing a whole 7 round mock on MtD, but there’s not a whole lot to like in this draft. You wanted feedback, and I think we’re all just being honest with how we feel about this mock.
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by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Apr 4, 2011 2:15 PM CDT up reply actions
the whole draft is a crapshoot because we just never know w/ some of these guys
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by nolesbroncos3456 on Apr 4, 2011 2:23 PM CDT up reply actions
That's not an excuse to only target mid round players.
You filled the needs but not gaping talent holes in the roster.
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by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Apr 4, 2011 2:25 PM CDT up reply actions
*the gaping talent...
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by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Apr 4, 2011 2:29 PM CDT up reply actions
Quality over quantity anytime.
Sure, I’d like to have more picks, but not at the expense of getting quality guys who can upgrade the talent base of the roster. Simply playing a numbers game doesn’t equate to upgrading the roster. I would rather get one dominant, game-changing DT like a Suh (not saying that there is one in this draft), who almost single-handedly turned around that defense last year (to an extent), than trade down to pick up more mid-round picks and just grab a couple of bodies later and call that filling a need.
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by ronburgundy7427 on Apr 4, 2011 4:06 PM CDT up reply actions
Poll added
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by nolesbroncos3456 on Apr 4, 2011 3:02 PM CDT up reply actions
A for effort and initiative
D for picks…thats a C+ average
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by MarkusInSaratoga on Apr 4, 2011 5:04 PM CDT up reply actions
Throw the draft value chart out the window
there’s no way the brass will toss a #8 and #108, and receive a #54 and #103-that’s giving away the #8. And Ponder won’t go 1st round that high. I would not be happy about this draft. At all. And I wouldn’t assume we are even thinking about a 3-4. We barely have the personel to run the base 4-3. The D would have to almost be completely turned over to get 3-4 personel, from the DL (295# DT’s don’t cut it, nor do 265# DE’s) and out LB’s are not athletic enough….bad bad bad draft.
Don’t worry nolesbroncos3456…still enjoy your other posts. Sorry pal.
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by MarkusInSaratoga on Apr 4, 2011 3:25 PM CDT reply actions
I like the first trade down.
I think 23 is a good spot for Ponder considering all the buzz around him recently. Not really a fan of trading the second round pick. I would imagine there was some good value there along the DL. Really would like to see Marvin Austin there if he is available. Also, not a fan of Vereen in the 3rd. I do really like the Deunta Williams pick and Kerley. Think they could definitely have an impact on this team. Gotta give you some props though I couldn’t do a 7 round mock
I'm not a draft expert nor am I familiar with >10% of NCAA football players....
but I have indeed been trying my darnedest to keep up with the draft prospects this year. And I hate to say it, but I completely dislike this draft because I don’t recognize a single name besides Ponder. Some notes:
*I don’t know anything about Sam Acho and you haven’t listed anything above to make it seem like a good pick
*Drafting the RB in the 3rd round so we can bring Stafon Johnson along slowly? i’m positive we don’t need to use a high pick on a different 3rd string RB with no NFL experience to fill in for the one we already have that plays behind two more RB’s that are completely healthy. It would be awesome to find another L.Blount, but we’re not going to. The Titans didn’t draft a RB last year and I don’t expect them to this year. (Blount and Johnson don’t count, undrafted rookies)
*What is a “weak elite safety class?”
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it means that the safety class at the top that isnt as good as past years but the depth in the middle of the group is good
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by nolesbroncos3456 on Apr 5, 2011 10:37 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
I should have asked where our third 3rd round pick went
seeing as we traded away our #39 pick for 2 3rd round picks. That should give us three 3rd round picks.
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