Tennessee Titans Daily Links: Titans Make Their First Appearance On A 'Worst Of 2011' List Edition
Kenny Britt's case was handed over to the prosecutor yesterday during a hearing in New Jersey. Britt was in attendance, and no bail was set.
Jim Wyatt talked to Mike Reinfeldt, who sounds like he's going to show up to the draft with a plastic-billed visor around his arm and a truck full of loaded dice. There's a popular sentiment that there will be fewer trades this draft because of the uncertainty of the value of next year's picks: if the rookie wage scale kicks in this year, then the question is mute, but if the scale kicks in next year then those picks have more value. In the end though I agree with Mikey that teams might be more willing than ever to trade picks, if for no other reason than the lack of free agency and trades will make teams stir-crazy. There are also a decent pack of teams who will want to jump back into the late first and late second rounds to get the second-tier QB they love. Either way this draft could be one of the most active and surprising in a long time.
Paul K chatted with Thorchak, who gave a tidbit about the new offense that both echos what we've been screaming for years, and the reason I've been giving in response: We'r going to use more screen passes to get CJ2K the ball, but we haven't been able to use them the past few years because Vince and Kerry were effin' terrible at throwing them.
Jason Cole previews his list of the top 10 best and worst games of 2011, and the Titans/Bengals tilt is the 3rd worst due to the collision of bad owners. I've defended Bud Adams a lot since the team got here, but as we enter the post-VY era Bud's resume as an owner over the last decade has taken a serious hit. That being said, I'll still give Adams props for acknowledging his mistakes and moving to turn the page instead of dragging it out just to satisfy his ego, which send the franchise in to a complete tailspin.
The new knock on Andy Dalton? One team rep Peter King talked to can't think of another successful red-headed QBs... even though Jeff Garcia was in the Pro Bowl just 3 seasons ago. I didn't even have to look that one up. I shudder to think that this guy's vote for President counts just as much as mine.
ESPN came up with a Power Ranking for CBs voted on by various contributors, and Cortland Finnegan came in 10th place. Two infuriating notes on this list: ANYONE who voted for DeAngelo Hall over Cort is a complete idiot (Hall is a terrible CB who is lucky that getting burned for a big play isn't a stat), and Paul K voting for Brent Grimes is a complete joke. We've seen Cort get treated differently by refs for his play, but this is a prime example of analysts knocking Cort for being 'dirty' or an unlikable player. Cort is a damned good CB whose occasional bad penalties shouldn't be overblown to the point it obscures that fact.
NFL teams need quarterbacks. In related news fire burns.
The NFL clearly had 9/11 in mind when it made the schedule, says the AP.
Paul K analyzes the Titans' 2011 schedule.
Bill Polian regularly gets the QB guru treatment, butmy question is does he deserve it? I mean Pey Pey fell right in his lap when the Colts clearly needed a QB, but outside of that his only picks since the end of the Reagan administration are Curtis Painter (6th rounder), Jim Sorgi (6th rounder), Kerry Collins (1st rounder) and Jerry Colquitt (6th rounder)... Not exactly the stuff of legends right there.
Wes Bunting tabs his 3rd day sleepers.
The Gang of Four > The Brady Six.
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Yikes:
Kiper on Locker: “Ton of talent,great kid. If he was taken at 8, you couldn’t argue with that” Says may have more talent than Gabbert
From Doug Farrar.
Open question to MCMers, who do you think the Titans will pick? (not who you want them to pick!)
In Reinfeldt We Trust
by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Apr 20, 2011 11:18 AM CDT reply actions
I gotta go with the multitudes of mock drafts and say Fairley.
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by ronburgundy7427 on Apr 20, 2011 11:22 AM CDT up reply actions
Oh sorry I meant to say which QB you think the Titans will take?
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by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Apr 20, 2011 11:25 AM CDT up reply actions
Well in that case...I think they stay at 39 and end up with Kaepernick.
As much as I want Dalton, I see him going late first-round to a team trading back in…and I don’t see the Titans doing that.
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by ronburgundy7427 on Apr 20, 2011 11:26 AM CDT up reply actions
If the Fairley/ Kaepernick draft happened with our first 2 picks
with all things considered, I would be pretty happy.
inaccurate in college = inaccurate 4life!!
by StPrattrick on Apr 20, 2011 11:28 AM CDT up reply actions
I'm a Dalton fanboy at this point, just don't know enough about Kaepernick to make a decision on him.
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by ronburgundy7427 on Apr 20, 2011 11:30 AM CDT up reply actions
Kaepernick, like Locker, is a longterm developmental prospect.
I wouldn’t hate drafting him, but we need a QB who’s going to be able to play within the next two years, and I’m not sold Kaepernick can be that guy.
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by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Apr 20, 2011 11:32 AM CDT up reply actions
That's why I said with all things considered
If he is gone and off the board, then Kaepernick is my next top pick. The more I hear about him as a QB the more I like him. Pretty good QB with room to grow, learns well, very athletic but uses his athleticism to buy time instead of always taking off running, very smart, and most important (in my opinion) revered as a great leader.
inaccurate in college = inaccurate 4life!!
by StPrattrick on Apr 20, 2011 11:33 AM CDT up reply actions
Hmm...well in that case, as a second-rounder I guess it would be ok.
I want a more traditional passer, but if he’s more an Aaron Rodgers than Falcons Vick/Young, I suppose that would be ok. WTF makes a good point though about him being a developmental guy, how will he do coming from that Pistol offense?
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by ronburgundy7427 on Apr 20, 2011 11:35 AM CDT up reply actions
Yeah he's definitely not/shouldn't start this year
Which with picking him up in the second round i’d feel better about then picking up a QB in the first round only to let him ride the pine.
Everything I hear about him coming out of the Pistol is good. Pretty much every report I’ve read on him is he’s definitely smart enough to pick up a pro-style NFL offense, he will just need the time to develop.
inaccurate in college = inaccurate 4life!!
by StPrattrick on Apr 20, 2011 11:39 AM CDT up reply actions
I like the kid from a personality standpoint already...
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by ronburgundy7427 on Apr 20, 2011 11:43 AM CDT up reply actions
Here's a good thing on him aimed towards the Titans
Colin Kaepernick: Nevada –Ideal Fit: Tennessee Titans
Kaepernick could end up being everything that Vince Young wasn’t. He’s not quite the same type of athlete, but he’s a good one in his own right who can buy time and create the big play with his arm or legs on the move. However, unlike Young the guy is a natural team leader, he’s a winner and is willing to put in the work in order to improve and get better. Much like Young though coming out, he’s still a work in progress and is going to take some time in order to get accustomed to the NFL game. However, he’s got the athletic ability to overcome some of his faults early and getting another run/pass threat who actually wants to get better at his trade and can handle the adversity that comes with being an NFL quarterback seems like a good fit for the Titans.
inaccurate in college = inaccurate 4life!!
by StPrattrick on Apr 20, 2011 11:46 AM CDT up reply actions
Honest question though
do we have the time he’s going to need to develop? Its unlikely that Rusty Smith or any FA QB is going to give us more than 8-9 wins over TWO seasons if we don’t draft a more polished QB.
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by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Apr 20, 2011 11:45 AM CDT up reply actions
Right, that's where I am torn between.
I guess I’d feel a lot better about this if we knew what FA QB we could get in here, if anyone at all…
inaccurate in college = inaccurate 4life!!
by StPrattrick on Apr 20, 2011 11:47 AM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, that is a concern.
Are there really ANY QB prospects this year that fit that mold though?
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by ronburgundy7427 on Apr 20, 2011 11:48 AM CDT up reply actions
Good point.
I am pretty sure every QB prospect shouldn’t be starting day one.
inaccurate in college = inaccurate 4life!!
by StPrattrick on Apr 20, 2011 11:52 AM CDT up reply actions
I think Dalton and Ponder can play at some point in the season.
Not from Week 1, and I wouldn’t expect success even with them in, but I do think they can play. I’d like for it to be a situation like Tampa Bay’s, where the QB comes in at some point in the year, goes through some growing pains and is able to start his second year and be competitive. We can do that with Dalton, Ponder and even Mallett, as much as I hate him.
We cannot do that in my opinion with Locker and Kaepernick. Its either going to result in those QBs getting thrown into the fire before they’re ready, and as a result, becoming massive failures, or holding off for two years and suffering through 4-12 and 5-11 seasons. And, if for some reason we were to reeaaaally suck bad this year (and not play the drafted QB), we’re going to be in serious contention for Luck. Which opens up a whole other debate.
I just don’t see how the situation can turn out well by drafting a developmental QB.
In Reinfeldt We Trust
by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Apr 20, 2011 11:54 AM CDT up reply actions
I was actually thinking about if we're terrible this year.
It’s why I don’t want to trade back into the late first-round for a QB, possibly giving up next year’s first in the process.
Even if we take a developmental QB in the second round this year who doesn’t play a single down, if we are terrible and somehow end up with the first pick next year…don’t you have to take Luck regardless of not knowing what your developmental guy can do?
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by ronburgundy7427 on Apr 20, 2011 11:56 AM CDT up reply actions
Its somewhat similar to what is going on in Denver right now.
You’ve got a longterm project in Tebow. You’re excited to see what he can do, but on the other hand, your in position to take a better prospect in Gabbert. Gabbert’s nowhere near the pick Luck will be, but I just don’t want us to have that situation.
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by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Apr 20, 2011 12:02 PM CDT up reply actions
And I should point out that I agree with your reasoning on trading up.
I’d rather reach for Dalton at 8 than move back up in the first for the price of the 2012 first rounder. Under no circumstance would I be willing to give up that pick.
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by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Apr 20, 2011 12:03 PM CDT up reply actions
Well the only reason we are even talking about Kaepernick
is because Dalton, and possibly Ponder will be off the board by the second pick. He’s the best of whats left.
inaccurate in college = inaccurate 4life!!
by StPrattrick on Apr 20, 2011 11:57 AM CDT up reply actions
Personally I'd be ok with the Fairley pick
But we do still have T-Brown and J.Jones, so I think honestly we could wait till the second round to grab a monster DT with less question marks and this draft is pretty loaded with solid DT talent… I think if we have our sights set on a QB we have to pull the trigger and shouldn’t hope he will fall to us in the second. I’m really liking Locker, Dalton, or Kaepernick. If I had to go with the one I would want, Davy Jone’s Locker I would pick.
inaccurate in college = inaccurate 4life!!
by StPrattrick on Apr 20, 2011 11:24 AM CDT up reply actions
Just to clarify to all,
the question I meant to pose is “which QB do you think the Titans will take?”
In Reinfeldt We Trust
by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Apr 20, 2011 11:28 AM CDT up reply actions
I'm a little scared they see a lot of McNair in Locker
problem is he’s nowhere near the polished, big armed passer McNair proved he was in college
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by August West on Apr 20, 2011 11:33 AM CDT up reply actions
I bet we don't take a quarterback
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Or a defensive lineman
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inaccurate in college = inaccurate 4life!!
by StPrattrick on Apr 20, 2011 11:34 AM CDT up reply actions
An offensive lineman
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Brent Grimes was great in 2010
Not sure what you’re talking about, but I watched the Falcons maybe 5-6 times and from what I saw Grimes had a MUCH better year than Finnegan did.
by NewsToTom on Apr 20, 2011 11:35 AM CDT via mobile reply actions
yeah
finegan was play the opposite side.
so he had to get used to playing backwards almost
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by Ice0ne (CAJ) on Apr 20, 2011 1:37 PM CDT up reply actions
Grimes is no Chris Hope!
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by August West on Apr 20, 2011 1:52 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Still think we should get Mallett?
Arkansas quarterback Ryan Mallett did not show up for a meeting with the Carolina Panthers earlier this month during an official pre-draft visit to Charlotte, N.C.
Mallett met team officials for dinner April 8, the day he arrived in town, but meetings the next day at Bank of America Stadium were cancelled after Mallett called and said he was sick, multiple sources told the National Football Post.
Complicating the matter is the fact sources said Mallett was seen out on the town late following the dinner. Off-field questions have followed Mallett every step of the process since he announced he was leaving school in January with eligibility remaining.
http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Source-Mallett-skips-out-on-meeting-with-Panthers.html
inaccurate in college = inaccurate 4life!!
Wouldn't even consider him at this point.
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by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Apr 20, 2011 11:46 AM CDT up reply actions
hahaha, thats what i said
he might have found some North Carolina Blow!!
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by Ice0ne (CAJ) on Apr 20, 2011 1:38 PM CDT up reply actions
I hope that comment about Collins...
…not being good at screen passes means he is definitely gone. Otherwise, CJ’s season is going to be pretty horrid.
Can anyone tell me if the Titans have ever taken an expected 1st round pick in the draft?
They surprise me (and every single guru) every year. Young? Johnson? Britt? Was Haynesworth the projected pick?
The point is, we debate and study all of these mock drafts and I think they are meaningless because the Titans always pull a fast one.
Does anyone know the answer?
Haynesworth was expected to be a first-rounder.
In fact, if my memory serves right, it was a bit of shock that he fell to the Titans. Most had him going higher to Jacksonville and John Henderson ending up with us.
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by ronburgundy7427 on Apr 20, 2011 12:03 PM CDT up reply actions
Derrick Morgan
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Regularly
I thought Pacman would be the call. VY was not a surprise at all. Wycheck projected CJ as the pick well before the draft. I saw Britt projected to the Titans in several mocks (or Britt/Nicks flip-flopped). Plenty of people last year thought the Titans would go DE, with Morgan being the guy if he was on the board.
Really, the only really unexpected 1st lately was Griffin.
by NewsToTom on Apr 20, 2011 1:16 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
I wish Britt/Nicks
would have flip-flopped the other way.
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i really think Britt is the better player
but i agree with you when we consider all the trouble and injuries.
Nicks developed faster
but he’s also got a better QB throwing to him and an offense that didn’t completely implode (though Britt’s hammy definitely played a key role in that implosion).
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barely, but yes, Britt was the youngest player in the NFL when he was drafted.
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by danielreese05 on Apr 20, 2011 5:45 PM CDT up reply actions
Re: Day 3 Sleepers.
Anyone else want the Titans to take Owen Marecic? I really like his style, and I believe he played both ways at Stanford as well, doubling as a LB for them. Probably can’t do that at the pro level, but maybe in situational packages. Also seems like a good locker room guy, I’d love to spend a late-round pick on him and get him ready to replace Sarge.
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by ronburgundy7427 on Apr 20, 2011 12:05 PM CDT reply actions
Fun comment in the Top 10 article:
“The Panthers have a really good chance to go back-to-back years with the No. 1 overall pick. It’s probably almost a lock, with their game against Tennessee looking like a showdown for the top pick right now. "
Those are my thoughts too. :’(
(you know, it is a LOT less stressful going into the season expecting it to be painful)
Question for all
Are we willing to invest in a long term project? If we have a lot of the parts to a successful team why wouldn’t we get a young QB who could come in and learn fast. I understand that there is no Matt Ryan or Joe Flaco out there right now but we could get someone who could start in a year or two.
Dalton? Locker? etc?
I really don’t know what they’re going to do.
I live in the OC.
The one in OH.
Personally I'm not willing to take a long term project.
Offensively the pieces are there for a quick turnaround. By the time the project QB develops CJ’s best years will be behind him and Britt will have had a few more offseasons to create bad headlines. We need someone to come in now, and take charge of this team.
In Reinfeldt We Trust
by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Apr 20, 2011 1:57 PM CDT up reply actions
Adams flubbed the Vince Young-Jeff Fisher situation so badly that now he may not have either. Brilliant, just brilliant.
who says that’s a bad thing?
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He "may not have either"?
Fisher was fired months ago, and VY is not coming back. Does Jason Cole follow the NFL very closely?
by DoofusOfErasmus on Apr 20, 2011 2:03 PM CDT up reply actions
Fantastic post August West!
i love reading your material
Vince Young meat tastes gud.
Draft Ryan Mallet!
by BythePowerofMunchak! on Apr 20, 2011 2:18 PM CDT reply actions

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