Tennessee Titans Daily Links: The Regime Change Begins Edition
Mike Munchak is open to bringing in a defensive coordinator who can transition the defense to a 3-4 scheme. We'll be locked into a 4-3 scheme for next year just due to the personnel on hand and the lack of preparation time if there is a work stoppage, but the fact that Munch is open, and perhaps even leaning towards, that possibility is a great sign that he's not just a Fisher clone like many people feared when it became clear that the next head coach of the Titans already had a parking spot at Baptist Sports Park. Will Witherspoon said he believes this kind of change could be a great way to "start blending looks and opening up the defensive playbook." In other words, we can get this defense back to playing chess, not checkers.
I mentioned that McCormick had brought up the biggest upside in hiring Munchak: he's a great combination of familiar but refreshing. In line with that thought Munch really laid down the law about expecting a higher level of professionalism from the players on this team. I think the front office is absolutely behind that mindset, as witnessed by last year's draft (full of heady, leadership-ready guys) and free agency moves (solid, respected veterans with upside like Babin and Witherspoon).
Despite having 13 coaches and coordinators under contract, Munchak has reportedly been given the ability to clean house as needed. While a lot of those guys got extensions, there haven't been any reports saying those extensions were multi-year. If Munch believes that any of those guys are part of the mentality problem that has set-in, or if they just aren't as good as another option out there, Munch will have a lot of latitude to make changes. Of course there are budget and rules concerns, so it's not like he can just poach some other NFL team's coordinator (teams can deny permission to speak to their guys who are under contract for any position other than head coach). The greatest part about that is no coach on this staff will be here just because Fisher saved their butt, they'll be here because the new coach believes they are someone who can help this franchise get back on track.
I'm a bit luke warm on Jerry Gay as the next DC. The upside on him is that he's been a longtime assistant to Gregg Williams. He's followed Williams from Tennessee to Buffalo to Washington, then worked in Seattle last season after Williams landed in New Orleans. The down side is that Gray was just hired as the DB coach at the University of Texas (not even as the DC? ugh), and he doesn't have a great track record of success as a coordinator anywhere. We need someone better than that, especially since we don't have that defensive-minded coach who can bail out a struggling coordinator if needed (like Fisher did with Schwartz and Cecil at times).
Paul K writes about the tightrope Munch is walking when it comes to Jeff Fisher. There's no doubt that Munch is very grateful to Fisher for giving him his first coaching job and really grooming Munch for this spot, but munch has his own set of ideas about how this franchise should be run. You can't look at this transition as, say, like the Dungy-Caldwell hand-off. Caldwell has basically tried to run the Colts while wearing a Dungy mask and hope nobody notices. Munch has his own way he wants to do things, and that can't be seen as a sign of disrespect to coach Fisher.
Are you one of those guys who was going to be pissed off with any hire that wasn't Bill Cowher, Jon Gruden or Tony Dungy? Do you think we avoided those guys because Bud is cheap? Well its' ok to be overly-simplistic and short-sighted, but lets remember that there have now been 45 Super Bowls played; 42 of them had nothing to do with Gruden, Cowher or Dungy. Also, Bill Parcels, is the only coach Dan Reeves and Mike Holmgren are the only coaches to take two different franchises to the Super Bowl. Just writing a big check doesn't get it done in the NFL.
I'll tell you one thing about Mike Munchak: he'd be the guy I take in a street fight if all of the AFC South head coaches met in an alley for a brawl.
Jimmy's all-time favorite Titans CB, Reynaldo Hill, recently worked-out for the Baltimore Ravens. I'm going to guess it involved lots of Reynaldo trying to cover WRs with his back to the QB, waiving his arms and missing tackles.
This guy looks at a few options at the guard position who may be available with our second or third pick in the draft.
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Not to be that guy...
…But Dan Reeves and Mike Holmgren also took two different teams to the Super Bowl.
Nonetheless, good morning links as always.
Go Titans!
toche
I was trying to remember if anyone else had done it this morning but didn’t have time to go back through the list. It’s corrected, and I always appreciate the fact checking!
Still significant that none of them won with their second franchises.
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Don Shula
Lost with the Colts in SB3, then jumped to the Dolphins and won a couple.
by NewsToTom on Feb 8, 2011 11:05 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
"Well its' ok to be overly-simplistic and short-sighted, but lets remember that there have now been 45 Super Bowls played; 42 of them had nothing to do with Gruden, Cowher or Dungy"
I also dont want to be “that guy” but I think Cowher lost a super bowl before he won one so that would actually be 41 the 3 coaches werent involved in not 42.
So I woke up this morning
and was a happy Titans fan for the 1st time since…..the Moss acquisition. Unlike that trade, I think Munch is going to do great things with this roster and franchise. Ithink we will see the players p[lay with more heart and discipline than they have in a while. I am curious to see how he treats hold-outs and guys who want to train on there own away from the team (no names, CJ). He seems legit and focused on building a winner.
And I also welcome the 4-3/3-4 blended look. WHile I don;t think we have the personel to run any 3-4 right now, it will be nice to switch things up on, say, the Colts, who struggle mightily against the 3-4. I think the draft will be a tell tale sign of what we are trying to do. I love Von Miller, but he is not a prototypical 4-3 LB. If he’s there, and he may be, and we take him, that could say a lot. If we go with a 265 lb. DE, that screams 4-3. If we go QB, I will throw up.
by MarkusInSaratoga on Feb 8, 2011 10:33 AM CST reply actions
I've been extremely happy today too, but thats cuz I made my cup of coffee way to strong, so I had a caffeine high for about a half an hour.
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I love the multiple looks plan Munch has been talking about
anyone who’s heard Gregg Williams’ interview on 3 Hour Lunch knows what I’m talking about. In the Super Bowl last year they walked in with 3 different gameplans/looks they were going to show Peyton. They played straight 4-3 for a while, mixed in some 3-4 looks, then went almost exclusively 3-4/3-3-5 for the home stretch. Obviously having 2 weeks to gameplan and practice made that possible, but you can do those kinds of things more easily when you have multiple fronts you can run out there. I mean to some extent Fisher/Cecil (and even Washburn for all we know) got out-coached a lot because other teams said, “Well, you may have 8 relentless guys on the D-line, but what’s the difference if they all do the same damned thing every play?”
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So do you think there'll be a bit of a move away from the "D-Line brings all the pressure and sets up the rest of the defense" idiom that has been prevalent?
I think it’d be a good idea to, especially with the undersized line. Not that we have to go crazy with blitzes, but relying on four guys every down to set up the rest of your defense is asking for trouble.
Ribs. I had ribs for lunch. That's why I'm doing this.
by ronburgundy7427 on Feb 8, 2011 10:54 AM CST up reply actions
yup. I think that M.O. is gone.
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No
I think that still applies. But I think Munch will promote more blitzing, more mixed packages. I mean look at the G-Men, Cowboys, & Bears. They depend on the front four. It works with the personel. Let’s see who we bring in from FA and the draft. I wouldn’t mind more blitzing and dropping a DE into the flat to cover a blitzing CB or LB. We did that a little bit with some success. I still thnk the strength of ANY team is the line on both sides of the ball. Trench warfare wins games.
by MarkusInSaratoga on Feb 8, 2011 10:59 AM CST up reply actions
I'm not disagreeing with that.
But what has been happening the past few years is basically the line has to get pressure on the QB or else. That’s what I want to see a move away from, where if the line doesn’t do their job, it means some WR or TE is going to be open because the coverage can’t hold up since the line didn’t do their job of getting pressure. Sole reliance on the line for creating pressure I guess is what I want to get away from.
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by ronburgundy7427 on Feb 8, 2011 11:05 AM CST up reply actions
right
I understand and kind of agree. Yes when the front four doesn’t get the pressure we get hosed. But the problem is we have been reliant on that on all downs. We need to mix it up and throw blitzes and mixed looks. Teams like the Jags can beat 3-4’s, but 4-3’s give them issues. I guess it boils down to is mixing it up, which is what we can all agree on.
by MarkusInSaratoga on Feb 8, 2011 11:23 AM CST up reply actions
If he hires an experienced DC like
Mangini, or a former HC, or just somebody that isn’t remotely associated with this organization I’ll be happy. Even happier if we eventually decide to morph into a 3-4 at some point in the future.
This means that Munch isn’t threatened by assistants with a deeper resume than him, and is open to new ideas that wouldn’t have been otherwise considered.
I don't know if many assistants are going to have deeper resumes than him.
Unless we’re talking about having experienced coordinators. Otherwise, he’s been an assistant for 14 years and I believe had the “Assistant Head Coach” title added in the last few years, not to mention is a HOF player. I don’t think he’s going to have a problem getting respect from players or coaches.
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by ronburgundy7427 on Feb 8, 2011 10:53 AM CST up reply actions
Former HC, DC > OL Coach w/no OC experience.
That’s what I meant. Don’t know much about these guys personally, but with any organization, there are people that are threatened by guys that they think may eventually replace them.
I think one of the things we've found out
was that Munchak has had more responsibility than anyone realized. he wasn’t the outright OC, but he was basically the de facto running game coordinator. Must be why Fihser always said Dinger’s strength was playcalling.
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Regardless...
An OL Coach working behind the scenes is going to be hugely different than the face of the Titans. I’d like to see who he hires which will help me understand what kind of leader he is, and how he plans on running the coaching staff.
Like most on this board, I’m guardedly optimistic.
I would love to see us get a chance to draft Rodney Hudson.
If he can put on ~20 pounds.
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by TennesseeTyrants on Feb 8, 2011 10:49 AM CST reply actions
You're last link...
Has a guy talking about Jeff “FISCHER” in sentence 1. I stopped reading…
GO TITANS!!!
i did the same. not credible.
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yup
people are dumb.
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yeah and i would have taken chuck cecil in an AFC South DC Fight...
and we all saw how that hire turned out.
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by SouthTexasTitan on Feb 8, 2011 10:55 AM CST reply actions
unless
it’s Cable. That would be a good one. Cable vs. Munch. I hear Cable has a mean hook.
by MarkusInSaratoga on Feb 8, 2011 11:24 AM CST up reply actions
If Munch can get Bruce and Earl as position coaches
by SouthTexasTitan on Feb 8, 2011 11:01 AM CST reply actions
If we get Earl
I want a bruiser back
by SouthTexasTitan on Feb 8, 2011 11:13 AM CST up reply actions
Earl can barely walk
and I mean he needs a cane and someone holding him up. He is in no physical shape to coach.
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Earl actually lives down the street from me.
It’s pretty sad the physical condition he’s in now considering how strong he was in college and the NFL. It really shows what a toll this sport can take on the body.
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by Ice0ne (CAJ) on Feb 8, 2011 12:53 PM CST up reply actions
Dinger has cancer
by all accounts, he shouldn’t have been coaching either.
Get 'em.
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by danielreese05 on Feb 8, 2011 1:32 PM CST up reply actions
I don't agree with the Jerry Gray hasn't had success as a coordinator
He was the coordinator in Buffalo when they had top 10 defenses. Now, you can say that was more Gregg Williams but I don’t think any of us know for a fact how much control Jerry Gray had back then.
Gregg Williams never had success at coordinator before he got the job as the Titans DC back in the 90s. That’s the case with a lot of DCs…
I’m not a Jerry Gray “fanboy” but I think we could do a lot worse in terms of DC. Especially considering we had Cecil last year…
me too
he’s got a history of personality conflicts. That’s the only knock on him as a DC in my book.
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Assuming Dinger is not kept as OC
What do you guys think of Tom Clements, the QB coach from the Packers?
He’s been Aaron Rodgers’ QB coach his whole career and he was Favre’s QB coach the last 2 years in Green Bay. He also has been QB coach under Cowher and his first QB coach job came under Ditka for the Saints (where he had Kerry Collins for a short time).
He was also OC for Buffalo Bills back in ‘04-’05 and did halfway decent (some of the best years Bills’ offenses have had this past decade).
If Dinger is not kept, then I think he could be a good hire with his experience and may convince some other Packers’ offensive coaches to move over.
we'll see
Just how dedicated he is to his expectations of professionalism, when CJ doesn’t show up for voluntary workouts, and britt shows up out of shape, and in the police blotter.
As for Bruce I’m on board for either him or Mawae.
Earl? I’m thinking his running style, isn’t going to do wonders for CJ. But the knowledge he has might, I’d be ho hum if he were a) coach.
As for switching to a 3-4, I still think we’re a ways off from that, like it said in the article. We could show glimpses, but with our secondary, all of those glimpses better be blitzes.
by Jeff Fisher's Power Stache on Feb 8, 2011 11:20 AM CST via mobile reply actions
one thing I will say
is that that you can only push guys so much when it comes to voluntary workouts. The reason they’re voluntary is that the CBA limits how much a team can force a player to practice. Otherwise NFL teams would have training camp 250 days a year. They can’t fine, suspend or punish a player. they can put pressure on him behind the scenes, but you have to be careful about public punishments.
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3-4 needs good LBs, glimpses won't even be possible without an upgrade there.
Not to mention we already have an undersized line, not sure any current defensive lineman could play there in a 3-4. I would love to see hybrid elements, and maybe they can throw the look in there just to throw offenses off, but actually running a 3-4 I just can’t see, even in doses, with current personnel.
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by ronburgundy7427 on Feb 8, 2011 11:24 AM CST up reply actions
Britt "says" he dedicating himself to the Titans this offseason.
I fully expect him to show up in tip-top shape.
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I don't know about Chuckie or Dungy....
but I was in favor of Cowher, mainly because he coaches with alot of passion…and he’s not afraid to get into a players face, (a player that makes many times what he makes) and let him know it if he’s screwing up. Of course, with Munch’s size, I don’t think he’s going to have to scream too much to get his point across. But I’m not po’d, in fact I’m one of those people who have a ton of respect for Munch…but he’s got a tough row to hoe, it’s not going to be easy, but then again…nothing worthwhile ever is, is it?
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what's the chances jason jones could move to olb?
sounds crazy doesn’t it, but he’s our best pass rusher until morgan develops, and if we switch to 3-4 he could be a MONSTER!
you think he could be an end in the 3-4, then?
i just can’t see him lining up on the nose.
maybe they can trade him for some draft picks, if they switch to 3-4, of course. i think he’s great as a dt in the 4-3, but i think if he was in a situation where he can play in open space he can be an all-pro pass rusher.
by NikoliVoltron on Feb 8, 2011 12:36 PM CST up reply actions
I don't see him at either.
He’s undersized for a DT as it is, most 3-4 linemen are roughly 300 pounds.
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by ronburgundy7427 on Feb 8, 2011 12:45 PM CST up reply actions
i’ve always been high on him as a talent, but if we can’t get the most out of him we should get some picks for him.
by NikoliVoltron on Feb 8, 2011 1:11 PM CST up reply actions
It's already in a fanshot:) Rec it to the front page.
Media - "How does it feel to be that fast?"
CJ - "It feel real good."
Dinger gone? Munch is serious about this. lovin it.
Ya'll don't even know he was a virgin til he was 28, and now...Roll Tide.
The OC job is very tough for a healthy person...
much less for someone battling cancer.Good luck, Dinger, and get well buddy.
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