Linebacker with pick 1 or 2 --
Just some thoughts on why we should look at going for linebacker early.
- "New regimes mean new QBs". A buzzword around draft sites. New coaches want to leave their mark on the franchise with a long-term QB. As the 'qb of the defense', picking and developing a great linebacker as a leader, decision maker, and player is a huge way to add long-term stability on the defensive side. See: Ray Lewis, Bart Scott, James Harrison, Clay Matthews. These are all playoff teams with pro-bowl LBs who provide leadership on the defense.
- Keith Bulluck. For the Titans franchise, Keith Bulluck provided this type of stability and defensive qb-ing. Our defense with him, despite other sliding pieces, remained consistent and, most importantly, rarely seemed to 'give up'. Without this type of player on the field a team will see what happened last year to our defense happen year in and year out--inconsistency and quitting.
The Titans seem to consistently draft the monster athletes : Haynesworth (2002), Pacman Jones (2005), Vince Young (2006), Chris Johnson (2008) -- even Griff (2007) and Britt (2009) fall into this category. While this strategy is appealing in the short term (get the best, most athletic player and plug him into a system), it doesn't have staying power for the franchise. Again, see Haynesworth, Jones, Young. While athletic and often dominant at their positions, none of these players have the tools to be true team leaders. Griff is a great safety, but he just doesn't seem to be assuming a leadership role in the defense.
Compare this to Bulluck, who spent 10 (count 'em, ten) seasons with the Titans, starting in every single game 8 out of 10 seasons with the other two being 15 games and 14 games, in his prime recording 125 - 150 total tackles per season. Ray Lewis has been with the Ravens for 15 seasons, who, despite having a terrible offense for the better part of the 2000s, were consistently a playoff contending team. Who is the face of that franchise? Ray Lewis. You could say the same thing about another perennial playoff contender (and champion) the Steelers. While this role is filled more by Polamalu (now in his 9th season with the Steelers), his position can be compared to this model of an intelligent defensive QB.
While a pass-rushing, space-gobbling DT would certainly help a somewhat maligned D-Line, our defense against the pass was much, much worse against the pass then against the run last year (28th vs. 20th), with a great deal of that damage coming from TEs who we just couldn't seem to cover. Another argument for DT is the potential for putting pressure on the QB, but a good rush linebacker can often fulfill the same role, in addition to bringing variety to defensive schemes and confusion to offenses (Is he going to be blitzing, covering, etc.?). Also, the lack of defensive adjustments (for which all the blame falls on Cecil) is something which a Def. QB remedies. Personally, if Peyton Manning is under center, I want Ray Lewis across the field from him, telling his line, cbs, and safeties where the play is going to go.
The last important thing ties in with the very first--the regime change and the potential switch to the 3-4. If we are building a Defense to eventually play the 3-4 you must have a fast, athletic, and intelligent LB to do it correctly. It just doesn't work without one, see: DeMarcus Ware, Joey Porter, James Harrison, Clay Matthews, Elvis Dumervil, Bart Scott, all of the San Diego corps. In fact, take a look at the teams running a 3-4: Steelers, Ravens, Browns, Jets, Dolphins, Patriots, Broncos, Chargers, Chiefs, Packers, Cardinals, Cowboys, 49ers. That's six playoff teams, including the two super-bowl opponents, and several consistent contenders who floundered (Broncos, Chargers, Cowboys). Here's a nice stat breakdown on the 3-4 from 2010: http://bleacherreport.com/articles/328392-the-3-4-defense-on-its-way-out .
It's a pick that needs to be made high-- if Von Miller dropped to us we should sprint to the podium. Quinn, Smith, Kerrigan, Ayers, Houston, Reed, and Acho are all great, though.
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James harrison imo is the LB with the least discipline on their team. Its like in his mind it says see ball hit ball, and me like food!
CJ wasnt considered a monster athelete Forte, Slaton, McFadden, and F. Jones were considered the monster RBs
pass rushing DT and Space Eating DT are 2 diffrent things
Rush Linebackers, most often found in 3-4s
3-4 4-3
3-4 better against the pass
4-3 better against the run
Oh, and trusting Bleacher Report is a fail
My basic thoughts.
Sam Acho is a DE
And a small one at that, as well as the others.
I like Clayborn he is a bigger DE but still has almost William Hayes speed on game film.
How do you beat a small fast front 7? Power runs like the Jaguars did, and somewhat like the Texans did
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point taken on harrison.
CJ ran a 4.24 40, the fastest ever in combine history. How is that not a monster athlete? I don’t mean ‘monster’ as in big and physical, I mean ‘monster’ as in ‘how the !@#! can he do that’ .
Also, in reference to your very broad 3-4 vs. 4-3 defensive comparisons:
Top 5 defenses last year, from nfl.com (total defense, ypg):
Baltimore (212) (3-4)
Pittsburgh (251) (3-4)
Green Bay (308) (3-4)
Philadelphia (309) (4-3)
New England (314) (3-4)
Against the run:
Steelers (51.7) (3-4)
Bears (77.0) (4-3)
Packers (83.8) (3-4)
Ravens (89.5) (3-4)
Falcons (96.0) (4-3)
I dont see how that shows in any way that a 3-4 is better against the pass, or a 4-3 better against the run. What it does show is that 4 out of the 5 top defenses in the NFL are 3-4.
Trusting any publication is always a matter of checking sources and logically approaching the conclusions found therein. Because Bleacher Report is a democratic (anyone may post content) publication, there will be a variety of materials, some being well researched and well reasoned, some poorly researched and poorly reasoned. The article I linked was a conglomeration of stats from the 2009 season with a series of relatively basic conclusions drawn from those stats, and I see no problem with that just because it is from “Bleacher Report”.
The Texans beat us both through the air and on the ground.
How many teams still rely on ‘power football’? Beating modern pass-first NFL teams requires a fast, athletic, intelligent defense.
I mean CJ coming out of college was not Percieved or thought of to have the potential
to become what he is now.
He was seen as a late 2nd to early 3rd pick.
But hewas behind all of those other guys before the combine
the defenses, its what they are based on, not what they can do to full potential.
The bleacher report thing is a joke around this blog, just in case you are new.
Txns: On the ground the 1st time really hurt us, and it showed that our smaller size guys can be beat sometimes with power football.
I know this, but if you are fast and atheletic and the other team is bigger and stronger than you, you will still be pushed around What good are a Sport Bikes against 18 wheelers or some buses?
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by Ice0ne (CAJ) on Mar 1, 2011 12:13 AM CST up reply actions
draft "analysts" may have had CJ going late 2nd or 3rd, but he was coming off the board at the end of the first even if the Titans hadn't taken him
there were reportedly several teams that were very high on him, but did not think the titans would draft a 3rd RB in the first 2 rounds in 3 years
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There is truth to this but...
1) The Titans don’t run a 3-4, and I haven’t heard anything yet about them switching.
2) with the 4-3, the most important linebacker is the ILB, even then I don’t really agree that it is more valuable to a team then a strong DT.
3) And on that, there are no top level ILBs in this draft. Everyone you listed is projected to play either the 4-3 or 3-4 OLB or even 4-3 DE. I don’t know about how easy or effective it is to switch a player from the position they are more naturally primed for, but why do that when you can take an excellent DT or DE that would not require a position switch and also fills a position need.
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I understand and agree with the need for a defensive field general, but in this particular draft, players like Miller and Ayers either probably wont fall to us (Miller) or don’t fill a position of big enough need (Ayers) to warrant passing on a top level DT that fills a position of bigger need (Dareus)
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on the D-Line
Switching from a 1 tech to a 3 tech is easy and vice versa
but switching sides for a DE is hard, you must do everything opposite, like starting on your reccesive foot and hand. It can get quite frustrating.
You can Take Babin, he was drafted a DE but tried to be made to a 3-4 OLB it just doesnt work sometimes.
The only time i would use anyof our DE as OLB is if they were to rush only
I would use Ford, hayes, and Morgan.
Ford does have a lil zone coverage ability though
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by Ice0ne (CAJ) on Mar 1, 2011 12:17 AM CST up reply actions
I wish Fairley would fall to us, but that’s like impossible. http://www.nfl.com/combine/story/09000d5d81e87e5f/article/questionable-qb-class-could-raise-kolbs-trade-value?module=HP_spotlight
The part about Fairley seems to be exactly what our coaching staff is looking for.

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