Titans 23 Bills 17: Grading the Offense
by Jimmy on Dec 4, 2011 10:22 PM CST
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PrintThe run game has shown a lot of improvement the last couple of weeks. The line blocked well last week. This week it was all Chris Johnson. We hammered CJ earlier in the year because he wasn't running the ball well. Today he did. He made chicken salad out of chicken-you-know-what a couple of times today. It is good to see him running the ball now like he did the last few years. It is just too bad that the line isn't very good.
All of that being said, it is impossible to give the run game anything other than an A today because the final numbers were 31 carries for 187 yards and 2 touchdowns. That is 6.0 yards per carry, and even includes the play where Matt Hasselbeck took a knee.
Grade: A
The passing offense was not as good. Hasselbeck really hasn't played well the last couple of weeks. He missed a wide open Damian Williams on the first drive twice. His final numbers for the day were 16 of 25 for 140 yards.
The pass protection hasn't been as good the last couple of weeks either. That probably explains part of the reason why Hasselbeck hasn't been playing as well. This offensive line better get good at pass blocking again because that is the only thing they really have a chance at being good at.
Grade: C
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Sarge looked great today
JS
It's all fun and games until someone gets a concussion from a stray flying footbal. *cough* Kerry *cough*
by MikeGriffFan27 on Dec 4, 2011 10:33 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Its disappointing that as soon as our run game gets going our passing game starts sliding.
We will have to have both going next week.
Ain't no time for hesitatin'
All you got to do is groove
by BonzosMontreaux on Dec 4, 2011 10:40 PM CST reply actions
Seriously
Haters gonna hate
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Agreed.
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by fanoftheunderdogs on Dec 4, 2011 11:40 PM CST up reply actions
... wow...
Some of our fans are just simply the definition of ignorance. So what if he has had a couple of bad games, get off of him, he is the best option right now, and Jake is learning from him. He is one of the main, if not the main reason we are even in the playoff hunt as we speak.
GO TITANS!!!
by RhiNo6705 on Dec 4, 2011 10:43 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Actually the main reason we've won the past 2 games is CJ.
Hasselbeck is starting to give up ground in that department.
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by BonzosMontreaux on Dec 4, 2011 10:46 PM CST up reply actions
?????? Did I say he was the main reason we've won the past 2 games?
No, that was CJ. Learn to read, he is “ONE OF THE MAIN, IF NOT THE MAIN REASON WE ARE EVEN IN THE PLAYOFF HUNT AS WE SPEAK”.
Name another reason we were even in games, besides Matt, when the line struggled, when CJ struggled, etc?
Again, he is one of the main reasons we are even in the playoff hunt.
Some of you need to read before you post.
GO TITANS!!!
by RhiNo6705 on Dec 4, 2011 10:59 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Our defense, actually, is another reason.
Also, calm down. People are allowed to criticize Hasselbeck as much as you are allowed to praise him.
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by BonzosMontreaux on Dec 4, 2011 11:02 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I'd prefer people constructively criticize Matt
instead of just calling him bad.
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by fanoftheunderdogs on Dec 4, 2011 11:20 PM CST up reply actions
It seems like a waste of time when it will be chalked up to our receivers and O-line either way,
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by BonzosMontreaux on Dec 4, 2011 11:22 PM CST up reply actions
So we KNOW our receivers and O-line is terrible...
but Hass should shoulder the blame because we “expect more” out of him?
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by StPrattrick on Dec 4, 2011 11:24 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I'm not saying that. I'm just saying he shouldn't be exempt from it.
Its the same way CJ supporters would try to blame all his trouble on the O-line.
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by BonzosMontreaux on Dec 4, 2011 11:25 PM CST up reply actions
I am seeing the one constant here in this argument: The O-line.
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Well obviously we can all agree that our O-line blows.
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by BonzosMontreaux on Dec 4, 2011 11:27 PM CST up reply actions
Maybe that is what we should be more worried about then
and we are trying to pass the blame to people that are affected by the o-line problems.
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They aren't the sole root of it, though.
Hasselbeck i think is making slightly worse decisions, just as CJ had regressed in vision and decision making.
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by BonzosMontreaux on Dec 4, 2011 11:31 PM CST up reply actions
64% accuracy seems like some pretty good decision making to me
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BUT THEY WERE CHECKDOWNS!!!1
THAT DOESN’T COUNT BECAUSE BONZO DOESN’T LIKE THEM
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by fanoftheunderdogs on Dec 4, 2011 11:32 PM CST up reply actions
Alright, since you are doing it again, im stopping this before it goes further.
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by BonzosMontreaux on Dec 4, 2011 11:33 PM CST up reply actions
Yes. Bonzo.
When I challenge your logic, I’m trolling.
This is ridiculous.
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by fanoftheunderdogs on Dec 4, 2011 11:34 PM CST up reply actions
You seem to take anything i say and interpret it in the most wild way possible.
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by BonzosMontreaux on Dec 4, 2011 11:35 PM CST up reply actions
aka: my mother.
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by StPrattrick on Dec 4, 2011 11:35 PM CST up reply actions 3 recs
And you take everything personally.
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by fanoftheunderdogs on Dec 4, 2011 11:35 PM CST up reply actions
I'm not taking it personally just because i've decided to stop arguing with you dude.
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by BonzosMontreaux on Dec 4, 2011 11:36 PM CST up reply actions
I make a joke and you decide to stop arguing with me.
What IS that called then?
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by fanoftheunderdogs on Dec 4, 2011 11:40 PM CST up reply actions
Seriously didn't we just talk about this like last week?
About how you were going to have serious discussions instead of just “USING CAPITAL LETTERS AND !!!!! POINTS TO MAKE EVERYONE’S ARGUMENT RIDICULOUS?”
I don’t agree with Bonzos, but you’re off on the way you’re going about it.
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by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Dec 4, 2011 11:36 PM CST up reply actions
I AM having a serious discussion, god ****it.
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by fanoftheunderdogs on Dec 4, 2011 11:36 PM CST up reply actions
Really?
THAT DOESN’T COUNT BECAUSE BONZO DOESN’T LIKE THEM
Just try and stay on point rather than blowing comments out of proportion. Again, I agree with your stance, but the way you’re discussing it just doesn’t work.
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by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Dec 4, 2011 11:38 PM CST up reply actions
Oh, yes, I was obviously being serious.
With all the !!!!1’s and caps lock and so forth.
If you count the ribbing as an actual part of the debate, then that’s you’re mistake, not mine.
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by fanoftheunderdogs on Dec 4, 2011 11:39 PM CST up reply actions
No, I recognize the sarcasm.
Its just that when that’s all you write, the argument is over- you’ve strayed away from the points.
2012: The year we clip the Hawk.
by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Dec 4, 2011 11:40 PM CST up reply actions
Look above.
I’ve written twice as many serious counter-points to Bonzo’s points as I have jokes about them.
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by fanoftheunderdogs on Dec 4, 2011 11:41 PM CST up reply actions
... and below, actually.
/lost track of where this discussion is happening
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by fanoftheunderdogs on Dec 4, 2011 11:42 PM CST up reply actions
And by the way, that ribbing was in response to Pratt's comment.
Bonzo is the one that took it personal and responded to me.
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by fanoftheunderdogs on Dec 4, 2011 11:40 PM CST up reply actions
Haha, I actually agree with you here.
2012: The year we clip the Hawk.
by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Dec 4, 2011 11:34 PM CST up reply actions
I'm talking about the past 3 games, not just in this game.
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by BonzosMontreaux on Dec 4, 2011 11:33 PM CST up reply actions
Why don't we bring up his Seattle games too then?
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by fanoftheunderdogs on Dec 4, 2011 11:33 PM CST up reply actions
Our rushing game sucked in the Falcons game too, Bonz.
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by fanoftheunderdogs on Dec 4, 2011 11:33 PM CST up reply actions
Save the cheerleader
save the world
Haters gonna hate
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by fanoftheunderdogs on Dec 4, 2011 11:42 PM CST up reply actions
Damn...
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Arguing with fanofheunderdogs...
is pointless. He skews everything you say and resorts to personal attacks.
On topic, go look at the Seahawks blog. They had the same conservations about Matt last year. Teams don’t dump the face of their franchise when he still has gas in the tank.
A lot of Matt’s problems could be due to poor play calling (still not sold on Chris Palmer). Stuff like throwing the slant too early is all on Matt though.
Get your facts right, E-Locker
The Seahawks didn’t “dump” Matty. They made him a generous offer to stay. We topped it, plus, I think he was ready for a change of scenery. And BTW, we don’t need Hasselbeck to “win” games for us. We just need him “not” to lose games for us. He’s accomplished that. Plus, he’s been a good mentor for Jake, and that is something that will definitely pay off in the future.
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by titansfan4ever on Dec 5, 2011 10:21 AM CST up reply actions
I think E-Locker's right.
I think Matt was told by the Seahawks that they were going to go in a different direction and that he wouldn’t be retained. But I could be wrong.
The Force is with you, young SkyLocker, but you are not a Jedi... yet!
I was under the same impression.
I thought they didn’t make a serious push to retain him.
2012: The year we clip the Hawk.
by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Dec 5, 2011 10:31 AM CST up reply actions
I'm pretty sure that's what happened.
Because Matt really never wanted to leave Seattle.
The Force is with you, young SkyLocker, but you are not a Jedi... yet!
My thoughts exactly...
so I guess Im with you on this.
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Well, that's not what I read...
but you know what they say…you can’t believe everything you read.
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by titansfan4ever on Dec 5, 2011 4:58 PM CST up reply actions
Arguing with fotud's just makes life more enjoyable!
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by Dynamic Dreadlocks on Dec 5, 2011 1:54 PM CST up reply actions
You know it!
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by fanoftheunderdogs on Dec 6, 2011 5:35 AM CST up reply actions
HOW DARE YOU SAY MATT CAN'T THROW SLANTS!!1
YOU’RE FAT!!!1
Seriously though, is this just because I struck down your rant about starting Locker this year a week ago? Still sore over that?
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by fanoftheunderdogs on Dec 6, 2011 5:35 AM CST up reply actions
And wait, why was this in reply to a completely unrelated part of the thread?
You’re confusing. D:
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by fanoftheunderdogs on Dec 6, 2011 5:36 AM CST up reply actions
Oh, yeah! I remember you now.
You’re the one that said you didn’t think we’d be under .500 without Hasselbeck this year. I replied pointing out that he was the only bright point in our struggling offense until CJ got going again.
You called me a Hasselbeck fanboy and said that “Hasselbeck fanboy mania” is the reason you haven’t commented on MCM until now.
Oh, well, yeah I guess I’m just skewing everything you said and resorting to personal attacks somewhere in this comment. Nevermind.
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by fanoftheunderdogs on Dec 6, 2011 5:44 AM CST up reply actions
I Agree
Yea the last two games CJ has finally looked like himself again. But Hasselbeck has been playing some good ball 3 of our first 4 games he won on his own cause the run game was a none factor. Let Locker sit an learn. People fail to realize that Brees, Rodgers, Eli, Rivers, Palmer who before he got hurt some years back was a pretty good QB all rode the bench. Steve McNair rode the bench. Let Locker learn from a veteran and watch how much better he looks when he does take over Hasselbeck is one of the main reason the Titans are 7-5
by Eric BorntoWin Owens on Dec 5, 2011 12:58 AM CST up reply actions
And what were you saying about him when we were 3-1 with no help from the ground game?
I mean, honestly. Yes, he’s in a slump lately and not putting up 200+ yard games but he hasn’t been losing us games. In fact, he’s made just enough plays to seal wins.
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by ronburgundy7427 on Dec 4, 2011 10:52 PM CST up reply actions
He only had to throw a game winning TD pass against the Bucs because he threw a pick six beforehand.
And, he did nothing of note against the Bills or Falcons to get wins. I still think he should start, and i was singing his praises when he was the reason we were winning. But he is bordering on being the weak link of the offense at this point.
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by BonzosMontreaux on Dec 4, 2011 10:55 PM CST up reply actions
He only had to throw a game winning TD pass against the Bucs because he threw a pick six beforehand.
and CJ coughed it up that game…
Who gives a shit? We won.
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That game was just a comedy of errors.
CJ, Ringer, all the Bucs fumbling. McCourty getting hurdled by Blount. Regardless, Hasselbeck came back and made the plays when he needed to.
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by ronburgundy7427 on Dec 4, 2011 11:04 PM CST up reply actions
At least Hass showed up
The end zone seat ticket holders…
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by Strangely Enough on Dec 4, 2011 11:05 PM CST up reply actions
That was perhaps the most disappointing part of that game.
I know the weather was crappy and it was a holiday, but the team was 5-5 in the midst of their playoff lives (still are) and turnout was pathetic. Maybe I was just spoiled going to games in the few years after the Super Bowl season, and I know economic times are tough, but it just seems like Nashville is more apathetic these days towards the Titans.
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by ronburgundy7427 on Dec 4, 2011 11:07 PM CST up reply actions
Nothing puts butts in the seats like a good product
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by Dynamic Dreadlocks on Dec 4, 2011 11:09 PM CST up reply actions
unless your name is Tim Tebow.
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by fanoftheunderdogs on Dec 6, 2011 5:51 AM CST up reply actions
Exactly, and that is what he was brought in here for.
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I give a shit, because i would like to see good play out of our quarterback?
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by BonzosMontreaux on Dec 4, 2011 11:08 PM CST up reply actions
You'd like to see him win?
because we did.
And actually Hass is play the best football from a QB we’ve seen here since McNair…
I’ll take it.
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I'm not saying he sucks and should be benched, but im not going to forgive poor play.
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by BonzosMontreaux on Dec 4, 2011 11:11 PM CST up reply actions
Based on this logic, you wouldn't forgive a lot of good QB's for having poor performances at times
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by Dynamic Dreadlocks on Dec 4, 2011 11:12 PM CST up reply actions
No, i wouldn't. I would say at the end of the game that while we won, they played poorly.
Thats all i have ever done with Hasselbeck. I’ve also acknowledged when he was the reason we won.
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by BonzosMontreaux on Dec 4, 2011 11:13 PM CST up reply actions
The poor play goes from top to bottom on this team
No one is without faults.
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Who mentioned you saying he should be benched?
Nobody.
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by fanoftheunderdogs on Dec 4, 2011 11:22 PM CST up reply actions
Nobody is perfect.
But Hass was pretty perfect before this reason slump. Give him credit for that, at least.
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by fanoftheunderdogs on Dec 5, 2011 2:45 AM CST up reply actions
*recent slump
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by fanoftheunderdogs on Dec 5, 2011 2:45 AM CST up reply actions
One would think Hass should get it together soon.
He’s a vet. But it doesn’t help that Hawkins sucks and Nate keeps hurting himself, and that Jared Cook seems to be invisible and that the line hasn’t blocked for him worth shit lately
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by Dynamic Dreadlocks on Dec 4, 2011 11:11 PM CST up reply actions
As far as the passing game
Hass is the least of the problems. He’s a good QB. Definitely not great. But, no CJ and no Britt should have killed this team weeks ago.
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by Strangely Enough on Dec 4, 2011 11:12 PM CST up reply actions
Nah, there were a lot of other reasons we were down when he threw the TD pass.
You can’t say that Hasselbeck isn’t good because other things helped him out, then ignore that logic when arguing why he’s bad.
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by fanoftheunderdogs on Dec 4, 2011 11:21 PM CST up reply actions
A lot of other reasons, the main one being his ineffective passing.
Because we sure as hell had a running game that time.
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by BonzosMontreaux on Dec 4, 2011 11:23 PM CST up reply actions
The main reason we were losing was his ineffective passing?
Not, you know, all the other turnovers? Or our defense allowing the Bucs to march down and tie the game before the pick-six?
How about the stupid offensive facemask penalty that forced him into a situation to throw that pick-six in the first place?
Or the fact that our wide receivers are so inconsistent?
No, no. Hasselbeck playing poorly. Him and his INEFFECTIVE passing. That’s the main reason, because you said so.
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by fanoftheunderdogs on Dec 4, 2011 11:26 PM CST up reply actions
Our offense had only scored, what, 6 points up until then?
He was not forced to make that throw, either. You can argue about alot of things, but i dont see a way to argue that the throw wasnt a poor decision and on him.
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by BonzosMontreaux on Dec 4, 2011 11:28 PM CST up reply actions
We had only scored 6 points up until then because of all the other turnovers.
Turnovers that weren’t on Hasselbeck, by the way.
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by fanoftheunderdogs on Dec 4, 2011 11:31 PM CST up reply actions
Owell
He is playing similar to he was in Seattle. We knew what we were getting when we signed him. Good news is we only have to watch him for another couple months and hopefully CJ can carry us from here on out.
/pessimism
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by Dynamic Dreadlocks on Dec 5, 2011 1:55 PM CST up reply actions
THERE'S NO POINT IN ARGUING WITH YOU!!1
YOU JUST SKEW EVERYTHING I SAW AND RESORT TO PERSONAL ATTACKS!!1
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by fanoftheunderdogs on Dec 6, 2011 5:37 AM CST up reply actions
SEE YOU SKEWED THE 'Y' RIGHT OUT OF THE WORD 'SAY'
AND PERSONALLY ATTACKED ME BY ADDING A ‘W’
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by fanoftheunderdogs on Dec 6, 2011 5:37 AM CST up reply actions
I thought Hasselbeck was fine this game.
Not good, but not bad. Average. The early season successes seem to have inflated expectations. He’s not going to throw for 300 a game, nor are we designed to do that anyways. 64% accuracy, no turnovers? I’ll take that.
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by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Dec 4, 2011 11:12 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
Two more things to add on:
a) I think the injury is affecting him a bit (hat tip to ron for raising this point)
b) Our pass protection decline has coincided with Hass’ decline. That’s not a coincidence.
2012: The year we clip the Hawk.
by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Dec 4, 2011 11:13 PM CST up reply actions
Agreed on both parts
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64% accuracy is easier when you throw it as short as he was all game.
He was just average this game, though.
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by BonzosMontreaux on Dec 4, 2011 11:15 PM CST up reply actions
64% accuracy is 64% accuracy.
I don’t care how he does it.
Also, its not like we have a deep threat. The short passes are designed to have success with what we have around him Its not like we’re going to be sending Hawkins deep anytime soon.
2012: The year we clip the Hawk.
by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Dec 4, 2011 11:18 PM CST up reply actions
Damian Williams seems to be a pretty good deep threat, but i haven't seen Hasselbeck able to hit him once on it.
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by BonzosMontreaux on Dec 4, 2011 11:21 PM CST up reply actions
... How about near the end of the game where Damian snatched it out of the air?
Oh yeah that doesn’t count because it wasn’t a perfect pass, right?
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by fanoftheunderdogs on Dec 4, 2011 11:23 PM CST up reply actions
Did i say that? No.
But how about the wide open shot at the beginning of the game?
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by BonzosMontreaux on Dec 4, 2011 11:24 PM CST up reply actions
I didn't say you said that, Bonzo.
I’M the one that said it myself.
The wide open shot at the beginning of the game was in 22 MPH winds with those winds to his back.
Hass adjusted to those winds later on.
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by fanoftheunderdogs on Dec 4, 2011 11:26 PM CST up reply actions
Alright. I think this is a legitimate concern.
He has missed Williams a few times deep, and this game he missed Cook a few times as well. That’s a problem. But that shouldn’t overshadow that he’s still making good decisions with the ball, not turning it over, and operating this more “compact” offense quite well.
2012: The year we clip the Hawk.
by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Dec 4, 2011 11:24 PM CST up reply actions
He was turning it over against Tampa Bay.
Today, he made good decisions and didn’t turn it over, but he did check down a little too often for my liking.
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by BonzosMontreaux on Dec 4, 2011 11:26 PM CST up reply actions
Everyone was that game.
L'enfer, c'est les autres.
by Strangely Enough on Dec 4, 2011 11:26 PM CST up reply actions
We won today, fyi
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by Dynamic Dreadlocks on Dec 4, 2011 11:27 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
but he did check down a little too often for my liking.
and we won.
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If you were expecting a full on air assault/mad-bomber offense from here...
I think you are rooting for the wrong team.
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To bring up another point,
Hasselbeck comes from a system that featured accuracy and timing. He was never touted as some deep ball guy. The offense we’re running plays to his strengths.
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by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Dec 4, 2011 11:31 PM CST up reply actions
Exactly
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Especially with Hawkins and DWill as top 2 WRs
if Hands is hurt
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I'm very aware that we won.
Am i just not supposed to be critical when we do?
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by BonzosMontreaux on Dec 4, 2011 11:30 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah, that'd be nice.
But that’s okay, we love you even if you’re a total debbie downer.
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by fanoftheunderdogs on Dec 4, 2011 11:30 PM CST up reply actions
... Deja vu, Bonz. I think we're going to have that discussion again.
The first turnover he had was with every linebacker on their grandmother in his face. It was 4th down. He tried forcing to pass to the designed screen, which was sniffed out by the defense, and the defensive lineman that intercepted it wasn’t visible to Hass at that time.
And with all of that true, it hurt us as much as an incompletion would have. So that wasn’t a terrible turnover.
The second pick-six was genuinely a bad turnover, but several other factors than just Hass contributed to it.
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by fanoftheunderdogs on Dec 4, 2011 11:30 PM CST up reply actions
Well from the sounds of it we agree.
Today, he made good decisions and didn’t turn it over,
^This is exactly what we need from him. Which is why I don’t think he should be getting all the criticism he is here.
2012: The year we clip the Hawk.
by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Dec 4, 2011 11:30 PM CST up reply actions
I literally don't trust any one of our current receivers (except for All-state)
on any kind of a deep route. They have either cut the route short, not adjusted for the ball, or just get completely out muscled for the ball. No wonder we aren’t taking more shots down field. Few and far between have they worked for us, more then likely the turn out being an INT.
That being said, I will take the short throws as long as it’s moving the ball.
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Yeah, the deep threat disappeared with Britt.
Early in the season you could already see Hasselbeck trusted him to come down with it and would just chuck it up for Britt. Now…not so much with the current group.
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by ronburgundy7427 on Dec 4, 2011 11:25 PM CST up reply actions
We were also leading for most of the game.
And with our running game working, that means (gasp) we run the ball more.
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by fanoftheunderdogs on Dec 4, 2011 11:16 PM CST up reply actions
Lies!
MCM Logic > Real Logic
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by Dynamic Dreadlocks on Dec 4, 2011 11:27 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Being in Dallas and at work, I am almost always unable to keep up with the Titans except on here
When I read this, I read it wrong.
That is 6.0 yards per carry, and even includes the play where Matt Hasselbeck took a knee.
Here’s how my mind interpreted it.
That is 6.0 yards per carry, and even includes the play where Matt Hasselbeck tore a knee.
Naturally, my heart skipped a beat.
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I am pleased to report his knees are intact.
2012: The year we clip the Hawk.
by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Dec 4, 2011 11:32 PM CST up reply actions
Bonzo wishes otherwise.
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by Dynamic Dreadlocks on Dec 4, 2011 11:33 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
You are right, i totally wish injury on our starting quarterback.
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by BonzosMontreaux on Dec 4, 2011 11:34 PM CST up reply actions
Sounds like it.
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by Dynamic Dreadlocks on Dec 4, 2011 11:35 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
If you could point me to where i do, thatd be great.
Go ahead.
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by BonzosMontreaux on Dec 4, 2011 11:35 PM CST up reply actions
/sarcasm
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by Dynamic Dreadlocks on Dec 4, 2011 11:36 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Sarcasm + Bonzo = Missed Sarcasm
Jokes + Bonzo = Butthurt
fanoftheunderdogs + Jokes + Bonzo = DRAMA
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by fanoftheunderdogs on Dec 4, 2011 11:43 PM CST up reply actions
MCM Math.
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by fanoftheunderdogs on Dec 4, 2011 11:43 PM CST up reply actions
Sarcasm over text = hard to detect.
Especially from somebody who has a 50% chance of being you on another account.
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by BonzosMontreaux on Dec 4, 2011 11:45 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
That's why I usually add CAPS LOCK and lots of extra overemphasis!!!!1
and then that doesn’t even work for some people.
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by fanoftheunderdogs on Dec 4, 2011 11:46 PM CST up reply actions
Well he did not add that.
Everything seems pretty serious with only a period after it.
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by BonzosMontreaux on Dec 4, 2011 11:47 PM CST up reply actions
The Colts will win the Superbowl this year.
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by fanoftheunderdogs on Dec 4, 2011 11:49 PM CST up reply actions
Did that seem serious?
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by fanoftheunderdogs on Dec 4, 2011 11:49 PM CST up reply actions
Well when its something like that.... No.
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by BonzosMontreaux on Dec 4, 2011 11:51 PM CST up reply actions
So DD saying you want Hasselbeck's knees to blow out and for him to be injured...
is serious when it comes out of nowhere?
My point is, using context helps identify sarcasm.
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by fanoftheunderdogs on Dec 4, 2011 11:53 PM CST up reply actions
It's hard to get sarcasm across via mobile commenting, lol
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by Dynamic Dreadlocks on Dec 5, 2011 6:53 AM CST up reply actions
TROLL!!!1
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by fanoftheunderdogs on Dec 4, 2011 11:34 PM CST up reply actions
That's my line!
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by Dynamic Dreadlocks on Dec 4, 2011 11:38 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Come on DD
By now you know I steal everything you have! :D
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by fanoftheunderdogs on Dec 5, 2011 3:23 AM CST up reply actions
True.
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by Dynamic Dreadlocks on Dec 5, 2011 6:53 AM CST up reply actions
I'm sure that if some of Hasselbeck haters read that their heart would flutter.
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by fanoftheunderdogs on Dec 4, 2011 11:33 PM CST up reply actions
I think we will be fine, actually.
Once the O-line thinks CJ is back to form, they will return to not trying to block for him, which means they can focus on pass blocking completely like before, Hass can play better, CJ will be back so he will still be effective, and we will win the superbowl.
Ain't no time for hesitatin'
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by BonzosMontreaux on Dec 4, 2011 11:44 PM CST reply actions
and we will win the superbowl.
I agreed with you up until that. I think we’ll reach the AFC Championship game though. :D
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by fanoftheunderdogs on Dec 4, 2011 11:45 PM CST up reply actions
Pure curiosity, who do you have going to the Superbowl/AFC Championship, from the AFC atm?
GO TITANS!!!
I honestly think it'll be the Patriots and Ravens simply because they'll likely both get the first round BYE.
Pats: Redskins, Broncos, Dolphins, Bills are the four remaining teams they face. They’ll beat the Skins, Broncos, and Bills for sure, and they’ll likely beat the Dolphins too.
Ravens: Colts, Chargers, Browns, Bengals are their four remaining. Colts is definitely a win, Chargers are terrible this year, Browns are also terrible, and the Bengals are looking extremely mortal in the AFC North this year.
So yeah… In short, I think it’ll be Ravens/Pats for the AFC Championship game. If one of those two teams don’t make it, I’d say the next two likely would have to be Pittsburgh/Houston. For the sake of NFL fans everywhere, let’s hope the Texans get nowhere near the AFC Championship game with their crappy quarterback play.
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by fanoftheunderdogs on Dec 5, 2011 2:39 AM CST up reply actions
If Texans make it there, it will be their superbowl for 20 years... they will reminscense (spell check) forever...
Ok thanks, I agree with you, but I think the Ravens get beat in the first game. Their offense is not good. Their defense is only thing they got, IMO
GO TITANS!!!
Their offense has shown up in big games, and assuming they don't fold in the final games of the season..
They’d also be rested and have plenty of time to work out a gameplan.
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by fanoftheunderdogs on Dec 6, 2011 5:47 AM CST up reply actions
One note on our defense before i go:
This is the second week where we have just straight ripped the ball out of somebody’s hands for a fumble. I think that’s pretty badass.
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by BonzosMontreaux on Dec 4, 2011 11:52 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
There simply is no reason McCarthy should be off the field
Other than injury.
L'enfer, c'est les autres.
by Strangely Enough on Dec 4, 2011 11:59 PM CST up reply actions
Man, so much O-line bashing.
It’s very obvious they aren’t a great line, but my goodness, you’d think they had just some kind of horrible game. They actually played alright today, I thought.
They had some of those blowups where the running backs got hit in the backfield. With this interior line, they always will. Again, I’m not claiming they are good. But you don’t average 6 ypc with those factored in without some pretty good blocking on a handful of plays. The line is making big strides in the running game, even if they do still mess up.
And for all the talk about how “bad” they’ve gotten in pass blocking, they only allowed 1 sack today. There were a few hurries, sure, but I wouldn’t call their pass protection bad today at all.
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by TennesseeTyrants on Dec 5, 2011 2:39 AM CST reply actions
'1 sack allowed' doesn't do it justice. Hasselbeck got absolutely KILLED on that play.
And on a lot of those pressures, the pressure was immediate.
I see your point, but honestly, when the O-line has a bad play, it isn’t just a bad play. It’s a HORRIBLE play.
On any given down, either the O-line blocks really well, or they just completely fail and get whoever they’re blocking for swamped by defenders.
I could count several times that Ringer, CJ, and Hasselbeck all got completely swallowed by defenders because the O-line simply forgot to block the guys.
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by fanoftheunderdogs on Dec 5, 2011 2:42 AM CST up reply actions
Like I said.
I’m not making the argument that this is an elite or even really good offensive line. But to read this site, you’d think that they were getting destroyed on every single play, and that’s just not the case.
They had a pretty good game, overall. Sure, when they get beat, they tend to get beat badly, but that wasn’t the majority of plays today. They were solid for most of the day, and they were very good on a handful of plays.
"Do the Titans have a miracle left in them in what has been a magical season to this point? If they do, they need it now. Christie kicks it high and short. Gonna be fielded by Lorenzo Neal at the 25; he dishes it back to Wycheck; he throws it across the field to Dyson. 30, 40, 50, 40, 30, 20, 10, 5, endzone...touchdown, Titans! There are no flags on the field! It's a miracle! Tennessee has pulled a miracle! A miracle for the Titans!"
by TennesseeTyrants on Dec 5, 2011 2:46 AM CST up reply actions
Yeah.
And those with gripes about O-line have them because of exactly what you said: When they get beat, they tend to get beat badly.
And I don’t care what position you play, if you get beat badly that will be the glaring attribute about your performance, not the solid play you had on the twenty other plays.
I agree with your perception of the things being said around here. To read this site, you’d also think that Hasselbeck was playing like Rusty Smith, or that Colin McCarthy was blowing guys up on every play.
What you said it exactly the problem, though. They’re good on a handful of plays, mostly average, and sometimes they were horrible. They NEED to be mostly good, occasionally average, and eliminate the horrible plays that get our QB’s/RB’s killed.
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by fanoftheunderdogs on Dec 5, 2011 3:23 AM CST up reply actions
A lot has changed at Music City Miracles in the last year
2010: We win a game, but our quarterback doesn’t play well: “All he does is win!!!!!”
2011: We win a game, but our quarterback doesn’t play well: “He is horrible! Put in the rookie!”
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by gramsey712 on Dec 5, 2011 8:12 AM CST reply actions 7 recs
haha pretty much
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I see...
nothing wrong with either statement.
I'm pretty sure calls for Locker are reserved for game threads.
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by BonzosMontreaux on Dec 5, 2011 8:47 AM CST up reply actions
and anybody with the word 'Locker' in their name.
/cough
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by fanoftheunderdogs on Dec 6, 2011 5:38 AM CST up reply actions
Put in Rusty Smith!
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I still believe in Rusty.
As long as it’s not in Two-Tone Blue
It's all fun and games until someone gets a concussion from a stray flying footbal. *cough* Kerry *cough*
by MikeGriffFan27 on Dec 5, 2011 10:12 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
Greened
2012: The year we clip the Hawk.
by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Dec 5, 2011 10:12 AM CST up reply actions
This so much
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by Dynamic Dreadlocks on Dec 5, 2011 1:56 PM CST up reply actions
LOCKER HATER!!1
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by fanoftheunderdogs on Dec 6, 2011 5:38 AM CST up reply actions
To be fair, the only rookie quarterback we had was Rusty Smith.
We haven’t had an excitable 1st-round rookie QB since… well, he-who-shalln’t-be-named.
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by fanoftheunderdogs on Dec 6, 2011 5:48 AM CST up reply actions
At the Game in Buffalo
I’m fairly certain that Damian Williams got two hands on the first two “misses” by Hasselback even though the gamecenter lists both as overthrown. (Can anyone confirm either way?) One he had to dive for but if it was anything but a Titans receiver you’d expect a catch. And the following drop was on target. Damian dropped 3 of his first 4 targets by my count. Hasselback’s play was good, not great. The blame for the C rating should be split pretty evenly between o-line, Hasselback, and receivers. Note: I shoke Damian Williams’ hand before the game: myabe the fact that I can’t catch rubbed off.
Also, from seeing the game live, Chris Johnson looked really good today. He was quite fast and more importantly, his moves were quick and effective. He made a couple of moves that took defenders completely out of the play while hardly losing any speed.
WWKBD?
thats all I have to say about it.
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by stetix01 on Dec 5, 2011 10:14 AM CST up reply actions
what would kenny britt do?
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Pray his knee doesn't blow up on him?
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by fanoftheunderdogs on Dec 6, 2011 5:51 AM CST up reply actions
What would Kyle vanden-Bosh Do?
… wear red contacts to look awesome.
… fail consistently getting around the corner but still look awesome.
… be an absolute beast with Big Al beside him
… follow Jim Schwartz to the Lions
… live in Detroit (ew)
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by fanoftheunderdogs on Dec 6, 2011 5:50 AM CST up reply actions
average, vanilla, grey, call it what you want
we got a lot of it on this team. in fact, truthfully we are an average team tinged with greatness. if we are what our record is, as they say, then there should be no surprises.
Considering, i think we have over achieved. does this mean we cant get hot? not at all. this is football, this is december, and crazy things happen. isnt that why we all swear off this team but cant pull ourselves away from it completely (well, maybe not all of us, but me for sure).
We can beat the saints, hell yeah and we can beat the fexans and get into the playoffs. got to love the way that little ball bounces sometimes. i for one feel pretty good right now about our above average team.
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by stetix01 on Dec 5, 2011 10:12 AM CST reply actions
The fact we're 7-5 late in the first year of a rebuilding year makes me confident for this Titans team.
Especially with our draft class being the best ever.
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