Tennessee Titans Daily Links: Big Kick Rob(bed) Edition
by August West on Dec 29, 2011 10:23 AM CST
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Rob Bironas and Mike Munchak spoke yesterday about Bironas getting robbed of a Pro Bowl spot he clearly deserved.
Boclair takes an extended look at Mike Munchak's habit of hiring coaches who had notable college and professional playing careers. Munch has also focused on hiring coaches who rely on positivity over negativity in the locker room, and encourage an atmosphere of camaraderie and team-focus over identifying who the franchise super stars are at any given time.
Jason Jones makes PFF's list for the worst performances in week 16.
David Climer essentially repackages David Boclair's column from yesterday about the focus of the offense being turned downfield due to CJ's injury and Jamie Harper being just awful.
Jared Cook explained that awkward TD celebration from Sunday, which started out looking like an Atomic Elbow off the top ropes but ended-up as some attempt to mimic jumping into a pool. Needless to say, it's been fodder for a lot of locker room ribbing.
Chris Johnson is still being held out of practice to let his ankle heal, but Munch and CJ say he's walking and running much better this week than he did last week... not that any of this means that we'll gain more than 30 yards on the ground on Sunday.
Speaking of CJ, Mike Tainer brings the funny by imagining a beleaguered Rex Ryan talking to the press about CJ & co.:
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Chris Johnson is a tough running back to prepare for. He spends so much time running sideways, I replaced Titans game film with a documentary on fiddler crabs and no one noticed. I always warn my defenders, watch out for Johnson because you can stuff him for no gain on 20 carries, but then he will gouge you for 6 yards on No. 21. That Matt Hasselbeck sure is a survivor. He reminds me of the G.I. Joe action figures that Rob and I used to melt over the campfire. I love cornerback Cortland Finnegan. That guy has the impulse control of a bear trap. He makes Ndamukong Suh look like Deepak Chopra. Besides Finnegan, the Titans' best defensive player is Karl Klug, who I think was the boxer from Mike Tyson's Punch-Out with the red mustache and lederhosen.
The Tennessean has 5 Hot Topics.
Paul K points out that MJD has had one of the better years that most NFL fans won't notice or remember.
Speaking of the Jags, no player in their franchises' history gashed the Fisher-era Titans like Fred Jones Taylor, and now the retired running back is lobbying for Fish to coach the Jags next season.
Don Banks names his top NFL stories of 2011.
Former head of NFL officials and current TV commentator Mike Pereira took some hilarious shots at Jon Gruden, and I'm sure there are a boatload of people in the NFL who would agree.
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Per Kuharsky
There are 32 scenarios that influence the sixth seed in the AFC playoffs. The #Titans get the spot in just four of them.
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by sami426 on Dec 29, 2011 10:38 AM CST reply actions 1 recs
Paul K is dumb.
there are only 10.
3-Titans
3-Bengals
2-Jets
2-Raiders
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by Titans_Firefighter on Dec 29, 2011 10:42 AM CST up reply actions
Your math is wrong
There are 5 games that impact the 6th seed. In each game there are 2 possibilities (not counting ties), home team wins or away team wins. Doing the math, 2^5=32 different outcomes of the 5 games that impact our playoff lives.
You weren’t taking into account the scenarios where we lose.
Teams I hate, in order of magnitude:
1a. Jaguars, 1b. Texans, 1c. Ravens, 4. Chargers, 5. Colts, 6. Cowboys, 7. Patriots, 8. Jets, 9. Rams, 10. Steelers
Thanks, math
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by TennesseeTyrants on Dec 29, 2011 11:20 AM CST up reply actions
This is also assuming that the outcomes of the games are mutually exclusive,
and I’m not entire sure that is the case. But I’ll get off my math soapbox now. The curse of being a math major.
Teams I hate, in order of magnitude:
1a. Jaguars, 1b. Texans, 1c. Ravens, 4. Chargers, 5. Colts, 6. Cowboys, 7. Patriots, 8. Jets, 9. Rams, 10. Steelers
In my opinion there are only 10 ways teams can get into the playoffs.
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by Titans_Firefighter on Dec 29, 2011 11:34 AM CST up reply actions
Out of those ten there are other possibilities.
Math never lies and math isn’t about opinion.
For the Titans we need at least: Titans win and Bengals win. Then we need 2 of the Jets, Raiders, Broncos to win. If Jets win we need either the Broncos to win or the Raiders to win. But we also get the spot if both the Broncos and Raiders lose with the Jets winning. So that’s 3 possibilities right there with Broncos winning, Raiders winning, and neither winning. If the Jets lose then we need both the Broncos and Raiders to win, now we have 4 ways we can get into the playoffs. Out of 32 different combinations of wins and losses in those five games.
Also if the Bengals win then there are 16 ways the other games can go, but they don’t matter anymore so we don’t list them.
Teams I hate, in order of magnitude:
1a. Jaguars, 1b. Texans, 1c. Ravens, 4. Chargers, 5. Colts, 6. Cowboys, 7. Patriots, 8. Jets, 9. Rams, 10. Steelers
how about the Titans need a win the Bengals to LOSE and not win?
Bengals win and they are in.
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by Titans_Firefighter on Dec 29, 2011 11:50 AM CST up reply actions
I thought we are out if the Bengels win?
by DustyPaynts on Dec 29, 2011 11:50 AM CST up reply actions
I thought so too
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I did not proofread.
That’s a mistake. But there are still 16 ways the five games can go and it doesn’t matter b/c the Bengals won.
Teams I hate, in order of magnitude:
1a. Jaguars, 1b. Texans, 1c. Ravens, 4. Chargers, 5. Colts, 6. Cowboys, 7. Patriots, 8. Jets, 9. Rams, 10. Steelers
Yeah, but if the Bengals lose to the Ravens, then 22 of those 32 possibilities go away
And, if the Titans beat the Texans then an additional 5 possibilities go away, leaving the Titans as the 6th seed in 4 out of 5 possibilities.
So, essentially, we need the Titans to win and the Bengals to lose, and the Titans will have a pretty good shot of making the playoffs.
This isn’t impossible at all…
by shawneriksmith on Dec 29, 2011 3:22 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
See this for Kuharsky's table of all playoff possibilities
Like I said, 32 possibilities
Teams I hate, in order of magnitude:
1a. Jaguars, 1b. Texans, 1c. Ravens, 4. Chargers, 5. Colts, 6. Cowboys, 7. Patriots, 8. Jets, 9. Rams, 10. Steelers
CBS mock Draft update.
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/mock
Pretty sure we arent going to do what they have us doing right now.
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by Titans_Firefighter on Dec 29, 2011 10:45 AM CST reply actions
the really expects us to take a TE??
Did they not just see da Cookie monster in full effect??
by Ice0ne (CAJ) on Dec 29, 2011 10:49 AM CST up reply actions
if you log in to CBS, it shows the Titans logo next to the 14th pick and we are selecting Nick Perry DE USC
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not impressed with him when i saw that the other week
He’s more like a run stuffing DE like D-morg and Big Hayes
by Ice0ne (CAJ) on Dec 29, 2011 10:51 AM CST up reply actions
I'm not either, I'm surprised Kendall Wright is projected first round.
He is good, but he lacks size.
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Clearly TE is our biggest need...
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TE?
Yeah right, we’re taking a Rb in the first round, we’ll trade up and take trent
by Ice0ne (CAJ) on Dec 29, 2011 10:53 AM CST up reply actions
i'd feel bad if Trent ended up in cleveland, it just seems like a hopeless place to go.
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I was being sarcastic
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I would really hate for the Jags to get Fisher, and THEN Blackmon.
Teams I hate, in order of magnitude:
1a. Jaguars, 1b. Texans, 1c. Ravens, 4. Chargers, 5. Colts, 6. Cowboys, 7. Patriots, 8. Jets, 9. Rams, 10. Steelers
they can have Fisher, at least Mo-Jo would know he'd get the ball on 1st and 2nd down.
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Fisher will go where Luck goes
bank on it
by Jason Jones on Dec 29, 2011 12:03 PM CST up reply actions
Fisher to the Colts??
"There are a lot of plays to be made out there playing middle linebacker. I try to make all of them." by Colin McCarthy
Blackmon on the Jags doesn't scare me.
Gabbert won’t get him the ball. Plus I still think Blackmon drops some easy throws.
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by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Dec 29, 2011 11:08 AM CST up reply actions
and Fisher would bench him for Thomas. Dillard. other more veteran receivers
and even then he probably would play the same position as another receiver so he couldn’t possibly be on the field at the same time
by DustyPaynts on Dec 29, 2011 11:11 AM CST up reply actions
How come we have to get a WR from like a big name school?
look at Roddy White -UAB
Greg Jennings – Western Michigan.
Lets look at some of the unknown school for some top flight WR, there are some of the greatest WR from smaller schools.
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by Titans_Firefighter on Dec 29, 2011 11:28 AM CST up reply actions
Marques Colston- Hofstra
Locker has a receiver either side;
Locker fumbles the snap;
Picks it up, sprints out to the right;
Looking;
Fires deep downfield
MAN IS WIDE OPEN!!
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by SoMissTitansFan on Dec 29, 2011 11:48 AM CST up reply actions
Yep.
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by Titans_Firefighter on Dec 29, 2011 11:49 AM CST up reply actions
Jerry Rice
Mississippi Valley State
"There are a lot of plays to be made out there playing middle linebacker. I try to make all of them." by Colin McCarthy
Andre Johnson – the U
Larry Fitzgerald – Pitt
Calvin Johnsn – Georgia Tech
Dwayne Bowe – LSU
Hakeem Nicks – UNC
AJ Green – Georgia
there’s talent everywhere.
aaaaaaand we're back, contribootin' some more!
read my post down the page, looking for non national title contenders year in and year out.
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by Titans_Firefighter on Dec 29, 2011 1:08 PM CST up reply actions
that’s some pretty exclusive company. Michigan never contends for the national title anymore, are they a small school?
also; I like the “big school” list better anyway.
aaaaaaand we're back, contribootin' some more!
"Big Schools" Talent is expected to come out of there.
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by Titans_Firefighter on Dec 29, 2011 1:12 PM CST up reply actions
for good reason, lots of talent does come out of there.
aaaaaaand we're back, contribootin' some more!
Which is also why people are bust because they are expected to produce because of being froma big school
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by Titans_Firefighter on Dec 29, 2011 1:29 PM CST up reply actions
Victor Cruz!!
"He's an amazing talent. He's probably the most explosive back since Marshall Faulk and Barry Sanders." - Eddie George, about CJ.
Would anyone trade cj to move up to get Richardson?
I would. I miss having a big running back that can actually move the ball! Looking at u harper
by danomite on Dec 29, 2011 11:00 AM CST via mobile reply actions
Richardson might not come out this year.
Or that’s what my Bama friends are telling me.
Teams I hate, in order of magnitude:
1a. Jaguars, 1b. Texans, 1c. Ravens, 4. Chargers, 5. Colts, 6. Cowboys, 7. Patriots, 8. Jets, 9. Rams, 10. Steelers
Not a Bama fan I take it?
Teams I hate, in order of magnitude:
1a. Jaguars, 1b. Texans, 1c. Ravens, 4. Chargers, 5. Colts, 6. Cowboys, 7. Patriots, 8. Jets, 9. Rams, 10. Steelers
Don't feel bad
I’m a Vandy fan myself.
Teams I hate, in order of magnitude:
1a. Jaguars, 1b. Texans, 1c. Ravens, 4. Chargers, 5. Colts, 6. Cowboys, 7. Patriots, 8. Jets, 9. Rams, 10. Steelers
I would trade CJ.
Not to replace him with another first round back though.
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by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Dec 29, 2011 11:09 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Yeah, we don't need a runningback.
We can put Pratt out there.
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by fanoftheunderdogs on Dec 29, 2011 6:24 PM CST up reply actions
I'll do it
no problem
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This*
I’m over him at DE, the excuse that this is his first year in Grey’s system is tired. You would think he would have made some sort of progression by now, but no. Not at all… Please get him back at DT
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by StPrattrick on Dec 29, 2011 11:34 AM CST up reply actions
This pretty much explains it
The Titans have annoyed me. I used to love watching Jones play from the DT spot where he made plays when healthy. He just doesn’t seem to fit in with the new Titans scheme and offers very little pass rush.
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by StPrattrick on Dec 29, 2011 11:35 AM CST up reply actions
i say we get rid of Marks and give JJ his reps
then occasionally at DE, mainly for injury insurance
by Jason Jones on Dec 29, 2011 12:06 PM CST up reply actions
I'd get rid of Smith before Marks
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by StPrattrick on Dec 29, 2011 12:07 PM CST up reply actions
agreed
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smiths stats are actually much better than marks
they both suck though
by Jason Jones on Dec 29, 2011 12:14 PM CST up reply actions
Marks has been doing a lot better the second half of the season
where Smith has pretty much fallen off.
But yes, they both are not very good.
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by StPrattrick on Dec 29, 2011 12:14 PM CST up reply actions
Marks had one good game @ Buffalo
Check out the stats at espn.com
by Jason Jones on Dec 29, 2011 12:16 PM CST up reply actions
What is there to look at?
1 tackle vs. 2 tackles? either way, they are both garbage stats.
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by StPrattrick on Dec 29, 2011 12:19 PM CST up reply actions
Unless a DT is a superstar
when does he ever not have garbage stats?
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When you are Klug
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by StPrattrick on Dec 29, 2011 12:21 PM CST up reply actions
KLUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUG
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by fanoftheunderdogs on Dec 29, 2011 12:21 PM CST up reply actions
KLLUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUGGGGGGG
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by StPrattrick on Dec 29, 2011 12:22 PM CST up reply actions
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by fanoftheunderdogs on Dec 29, 2011 12:25 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah
but he’s a SUPERSTAR!!! ∆∆∆∆∆∆∆∆∆∆∆∆∆
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stats
……………….tack—-solo—-ast—-sack———ff
Marks———-22——-13——-9———0.5———-0
Smith———-25——-17——-8———-1————-0
Klug————-20——-18——-2———-7————-2
by Jason Jones on Dec 29, 2011 12:39 PM CST up reply actions
What is your point?
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by StPrattrick on Dec 29, 2011 12:41 PM CST up reply actions
KLUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUG is his point
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by fanoftheunderdogs on Dec 29, 2011 12:41 PM CST up reply actions
KLUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUGGGGG!!!!!!
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by StPrattrick on Dec 29, 2011 12:44 PM CST up reply actions
KLUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG!!!!!!
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by fanoftheunderdogs on Dec 29, 2011 12:45 PM CST up reply actions
Yup
Marks has done well this year
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by JustinS on Dec 29, 2011 12:19 PM CST up reply actions 5 recs
Derrick Morgan named 2011 Ed Block Courage Award recipient by Titans.
Also apparently he leads the team in QB pressures with 19.
All this per Jeff Wyatt on Twitter.
I didn’t expect him to lead the team in pressures
Derrick Morgan leads the team in pressures?
Wow.
"Do the Titans have a miracle left in them in what has been a magical season to this point? If they do, they need it now. Christie kicks it high and short. Gonna be fielded by Lorenzo Neal at the 25; he dishes it back to Wycheck; he throws it across the field to Dyson. 30, 40, 50, 40, 30, 20, 10, 5, endzone...touchdown, Titans! There are no flags on the field! It's a miracle! Tennessee has pulled a miracle! A miracle for the Titans!"
by TennesseeTyrants on Dec 29, 2011 12:43 PM CST up reply actions
this is suprising
i wonder what he can do when he is completely health
And why are we so quick to pass judgment on Jamie Harper?
He didn’t have a great rushing average, but neither did the rest of the team (Seeing how Jacksonville is 11th against the rush) Plus, with his 1 TD he’s already accumulated 1/4th of CJ’s TD for the season (obviously that is nothing to gloat about). My point is, how are we going to say Harper is any worse then CJ when he’s only had one “start” ?
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How about we give up on the whole CJ as a number one thing..
Yeah we paid him too much money, whatever. But I think we could have a decent three headed monster like the Giants did a couple years ago and like the Saints have now. And even the Patriots to a lesser degree…
CJ for the speed guy, like Sproles for the Saints, Bradshaw for the Giants, and Woodhead for the Patriots
Harper as the big back, like Ingram/Ivory for the Saints, Jacobs for the Giants, and the rookie for the Patriots, I forget his name
Ringer for the good at everything but not spectacular at any one thing guy, like Thomas for the Saints, Ware for the Giants, and BGE for the Patriots
I dunno, just a thought..
Locker has a receiver either side;
Locker fumbles the snap;
Picks it up, sprints out to the right;
Looking;
Fires deep downfield
MAN IS WIDE OPEN!!
TOUCHDOWWWWWN TITANS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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by SoMissTitansFan on Dec 29, 2011 11:57 AM CST up reply actions
I wish we would have been doing this all season long...
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by StPrattrick on Dec 29, 2011 11:59 AM CST up reply actions
As do I
Locker has a receiver either side;
Locker fumbles the snap;
Picks it up, sprints out to the right;
Looking;
Fires deep downfield
MAN IS WIDE OPEN!!
TOUCHDOWWWWWN TITANS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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by SoMissTitansFan on Dec 29, 2011 12:00 PM CST up reply actions
Actually, we keep on using the 'no offseason' thing as a logical reason
to not cast harsh judgement on guys like Palmer and Munchak…
Well, we had the lockout, CJ had a holdout that caused him to also miss preseason, he’s playing for an OC that always has had bad running games, in a league where the defenses against him always game plan just for him, with a bad hammy and now a bad ankle.
Personally, I’m going to judge CJ on what he does next year. This is an off year for him and really, we shouldn’t have expected much different.
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by fanoftheunderdogs on Dec 29, 2011 12:24 PM CST up reply actions
This cannot be serious.
This is an off year for him and really, we shouldn’t have expected much different.
He begs, complains and whines that he is a top playmaker, and we shouldn’t have expected much different than the barely 1,000 yard season he’s going to put up? That is insane.
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by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Dec 29, 2011 12:27 PM CST up reply actions
And since when did CJ not know how to catch?
It is when your best (read:highest paid) player is a running back who can’t catch
- GG
He was the leading receiver in the receptions 2 years ago, 2nd leading last year.
We have so many excuses for the dude, but he has shown us little to nothing that he is even kinda rebounding.
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by StPrattrick on Dec 29, 2011 12:30 PM CST up reply actions
Adding to Winni's point whinning about being a top playmaker.
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by StPrattrick on Dec 29, 2011 12:31 PM CST up reply actions
He isn't catching the ball as well for the same reason he kept getting stuffed for losses earlier in the season
He immediately looks to break off the big home-run TD instead of focusing on what he needs to in that moment… IE catching the ball, hitting the hole, etc etc
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by fanoftheunderdogs on Dec 29, 2011 12:33 PM CST up reply actions
Is this something that should be re-taught to a "playmaker" of his caliber?
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by StPrattrick on Dec 29, 2011 12:33 PM CST up reply actions
I think he needs to run through on offseason again and get it in his head.
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by fanoftheunderdogs on Dec 29, 2011 12:35 PM CST up reply actions
His own God Damn fault for not being their in the offseason
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by StPrattrick on Dec 29, 2011 12:36 PM CST up reply actions
LOL We didn't have an offseason Pratt
Lockout, remember?
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by fanoftheunderdogs on Dec 29, 2011 12:37 PM CST up reply actions
He wasn't there for the training camp we did have!
If there was any time we did need someone there doing their homework, it was then!
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by StPrattrick on Dec 29, 2011 12:40 PM CST up reply actions
That's because he HELD OUT
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by fanoftheunderdogs on Dec 29, 2011 12:41 PM CST up reply actions
So because He Chose to hold out, it's not his fault for being up to speed on the offense?
and/or being horrible this year?
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by StPrattrick on Dec 29, 2011 12:45 PM CST up reply actions
Where have I said it's not his fault?
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by fanoftheunderdogs on Dec 29, 2011 12:46 PM CST up reply actions
I'm just saying it's not JUST his fault.
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by fanoftheunderdogs on Dec 29, 2011 12:48 PM CST up reply actions
Well regardless, there are things he is expected to accomplish
i.e. showing up for what little camp we had, showing up in football shape, having the vision that made him great, etc… all things he should be controlling on his end that have little to nothing to do with coaching and/or O-line blocking… which he did not do or take care of.
That is my point, he is not holding up his end of the bargain
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by StPrattrick on Dec 29, 2011 12:51 PM CST up reply actions
I agree with all of that.
But even if he did hold up his end of the bargain, chances are he’d still be having a shitty year because of what’s around him.
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by fanoftheunderdogs on Dec 29, 2011 1:01 PM CST up reply actions
I can take a shitty year where he is showing he busted his ass and gave it his all despite the mess of talent around him (i.e Fitzgerald)
I do not see that at all this year.
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You can't compare Fitz and CJ in this situation.
Fitz is a great wide receiver in a pass-happy league playing 4 games in the NFC West.
CJ is a home-run hitter that’s not hitting home runs… and whenever he tries to give it his all instead of taking what he can in front of him, he gets stuffed behind the LOS or drops the ball.
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by fanoftheunderdogs on Dec 29, 2011 1:07 PM CST up reply actions
what the...? I can't?
Have you seen Fitz QBs? What has worked in Fitz’s favor the last 2 years? and he still produces.
Teams KNOW where the ball is going because there is literally no one else to pass to and he still produces…
How is this any different?
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Because that's the passing game
and this is the running game.
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by fanoftheunderdogs on Dec 29, 2011 1:09 PM CST up reply actions
...so?
is it less difficult for a WR to produce then a running back?
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by fanoftheunderdogs on Dec 29, 2011 1:12 PM CST up reply actions
You are telling me John Skelton makes it easy for Fitz to be good?
because that is not true if you have watched an Cardinals games.
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...
Clearly I'm saying John Skelton
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makes it easy for Fitz to be good
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by fanoftheunderdogs on Dec 29, 2011 1:16 PM CST up reply actions
You aren't clearly saying anything
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nothing has worked in his favor the last 2 years, that’s why his numbers have dropped off.
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by D. Reese on Dec 29, 2011 1:13 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
He is still out-producing 90% of the WRs in the NFL
he is still elite
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I think he was refering to CJ.
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by fanoftheunderdogs on Dec 29, 2011 1:14 PM CST up reply actions
still dropped off, no more double digit TDs. just sayin.
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Still elite, still a playmaker, despite the teams drop off.
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sure sure, but there’s been a noticeable drop in his production.
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I don't disagree, but decline and ineffective are 2 different things
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I won’t disagree that Fitzgerald is on another level, but the point is circumstance does make a difference.
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Circumstance does a make difference. That’s all I’ve been trying to say this whole time.
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by fanoftheunderdogs on Dec 29, 2011 1:24 PM CST up reply actions
You are a big boy, you can figure out your own argument
and I still disagree, it is the same topic just 2 different positions.
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Clearly in this case, yes they are 2 dif positions
but none the less, 1 person declined when the team was declining, the other stayed elite, while the team was declining
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When you make excuses for him. that is absolving him of full fault.
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by StPrattrick on Dec 29, 2011 12:48 PM CST up reply actions
For what seems like the millionth time... I'm not making excuses for him.
I’m listing the other reasons he’s playing shitty.
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by fanoftheunderdogs on Dec 29, 2011 12:59 PM CST up reply actions
Shit, I am ranting.... It's the keyboards fault
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by StPrattrick on Dec 29, 2011 12:38 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah. It's the keyboard's, the mouse's, the computer's, blah blah blah
Everyone but you, right?
/WTF’d
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by fanoftheunderdogs on Dec 29, 2011 12:40 PM CST up reply actions
Since when did FOTUD become unable to handle jokes...?
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by StPrattrick on Dec 29, 2011 12:41 PM CST up reply actions
FOTUD is making it awful hard for me to keep hating him and not responding to any of his comments
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D:
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by fanoftheunderdogs on Dec 29, 2011 12:42 PM CST up reply actions
Blame it on Palmer
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by gramsey712 on Dec 29, 2011 12:40 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
he wanted guaranteed money
i don’t lame him, we saw what happened to Jonny Knox, that can happen to any player at any time
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No one is blaming him for wanting the money, I am blaming him for not getting what we paid for.
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And who's fault is that? Lemme take some common guesses...Munchak, Palmer, the line, Hasselbeck, Vince Young...
Everyone but CJ, right?
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by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Dec 29, 2011 12:34 PM CST up reply actions
Stop that shit.
I’m not excusing CJ from any blame for his piss-poor performance. I’m just deducing the reasons behind it.
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by fanoftheunderdogs on Dec 29, 2011 12:35 PM CST up reply actions
Ya, the reason behind it. And who's at fault for the reason behind it?
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by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Dec 29, 2011 12:36 PM CST up reply actions
Everyone, including him
and including circumstance.
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by fanoftheunderdogs on Dec 29, 2011 12:37 PM CST up reply actions
Just because we force 3 times as many balls to him as any other receiver does not mean he "knows how to catch"
He let one go through his hands against the Jaguars
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by fanoftheunderdogs on Dec 29, 2011 12:36 PM CST up reply actions
We force 3 times as many balls to him?
Isn’t that what everyone in the NFL wants? The ball in their hands?
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by StPrattrick on Dec 29, 2011 12:38 PM CST up reply actions
I would rather force those to Nate or Cook
Instead of splitting our running back out wide when he doesn’t know how to be a receiver
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Do not call yourself a playmaker then
if you are unable to make those plays.
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by StPrattrick on Dec 29, 2011 12:39 PM CST up reply actions
I am confused about what we are arguing about now
YOU WIN
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TADA!
We are arguing on the fact that we both agree CJ Sucks
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by StPrattrick on Dec 29, 2011 12:42 PM CST up reply actions
NOT TRUE! HE SUCK SO MUCH MORE THEN YOU THOUGHT!~!!
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by StPrattrick on Dec 29, 2011 12:44 PM CST up reply actions
I bet Mike Vick can’t catch for shit either.
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Who gives a shit about Mike Vick?
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would you not consider Mike Vick a playmaker? or Cam Newton? you can be a playmaker and not be able to catch…
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How do you know they can´t catch the ball?
"He's an amazing talent. He's probably the most explosive back since Marshall Faulk and Barry Sanders." - Eddie George, about CJ.
Actually Cam Newton had a bad ass catch for 27 yards this season
sooooo….?
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CJ had a pretty badass catch for 30 earlier in the year over a defensive back along the sideline IIRC.
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by fanoftheunderdogs on Dec 29, 2011 1:22 PM CST up reply actions
You asked for example, there you go.
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You mean where he didn't have anybody within 20 yards of him?
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by fanoftheunderdogs on Dec 29, 2011 1:21 PM CST up reply actions
So far my math adds up to Cam Newton catches the ball 100% of the time when it's thrown his way...
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100%
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Read dreese´s answer to the same post and you shall be enlightened.
"He's an amazing talent. He's probably the most explosive back since Marshall Faulk and Barry Sanders." - Eddie George, about CJ.
You mean the response to your post?
I think I am getting into an argument that I don’t care about.
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You make it sound like I'm saying we didn't deserve better.
We have. But under the circumstances, we shouldn’t have expected it.
Besides, we gave him a ‘top playmaker’ contract for more than just one year.
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by fanoftheunderdogs on Dec 29, 2011 12:31 PM CST up reply actions
In the year after shelling out the 2nd largest contract for a RB ever. EVER.
yes, I kinda was expecting better.
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by StPrattrick on Dec 29, 2011 12:32 PM CST up reply actions
CJ may be a 2,000 yard back, but he isn't Jesus
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by fanoftheunderdogs on Dec 29, 2011 12:33 PM CST up reply actions
I kinda was expecting better.
= more then 1,000 yards and/or a few more then 4 TDs
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by StPrattrick on Dec 29, 2011 12:34 PM CST up reply actions
Actually not even that, I expect him to not be a liability in games
That is it. At least keep honest with a running game. I am not asking for monster yards, I am just asking for average back effort/production. That. Is. It.
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by StPrattrick on Dec 29, 2011 12:36 PM CST up reply actions
..
This. Is. Sparta.
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by StPrattrick on Dec 29, 2011 12:43 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
Again with this "we shouldn't have expected it" crap.
For 50 M, I expect a heckuva lot more than 1,000 yards and piss poor production for all but 4 games.
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by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Dec 29, 2011 12:33 PM CST up reply actions
We're not paying him 50 million in one year, are we?
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by fanoftheunderdogs on Dec 29, 2011 12:34 PM CST up reply actions
He is the second highest paid RB I believe for this year.
And performing like a backup. Ya, I expect better.
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by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Dec 29, 2011 12:35 PM CST up reply actions
Sigh.
Falling on deaf ears around here.
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by fanoftheunderdogs on Dec 29, 2011 12:36 PM CST up reply actions
Because the point you're attempting to make is poor.
We should have expected this type of production from him? How on earth did you come up with that point?
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by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Dec 29, 2011 12:37 PM CST up reply actions
Because:
1. Lockout
2. Holdout
3. Cris Palmer’s past running offenses
4. Our weak interior OL
5. All that + defenses always gameplanning specifically for him
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by fanoftheunderdogs on Dec 29, 2011 12:39 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I see a lot of excuses there.
1. Is CJ the only RB impacted by the lockout? How come other backs have better averages and more yards? Did Maurice Jones-Drew miss the lockout? The lockout was an excuse for the first few games. It is not anymore.
2. CJ’s fault.
5. They didn’t gameplan for him before? And are gameplanning MORE for him in the year we actually have a competent pass game?
I will give you 3 and 4 as contributing factors to his demise, but CJ is responsible for his own production. I guess I expect a playmaker to make plays. Oops…
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by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Dec 29, 2011 12:42 PM CST up reply actions
LOL They're not excuses, they're facts.
All of those things are affecting our running game in general. And CJ is a completely different back than the likes of MJD.
Just because I reference the other reasons CJ is sucking this year doesn’t mean I’m making excuses for the guy.
Please, for the sake of intelligence, cut the “YOU’RE MAKING EXCUSES” bullshit out, because I’m clearly not.
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by fanoftheunderdogs on Dec 29, 2011 12:44 PM CST up reply actions
But you are. Let's look at these "facts."
All of those things are affecting our running game in general.
How come they are not affecting other rushing attacks? Even ones with new coaching staffs?
And CJ is a completely different back than the likes of MJD.
Okay, I agree. But why should I not expect more production from him?
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by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Dec 29, 2011 12:48 PM CST up reply actions
I love how you immediately say that I am making excuses
then put quotations around the “facts”… then agree with me on one of them.
You shouldn’t have expected more production from him this year because money doesn’t magically make you play well. If that was true the Eagles wouldn’t be out of the playoffs at this point.
That big contract inflated expectations for CJ in a year that, really, it was more likely that he DID have this sort of shitty year than not.
Now, here we are, he had the shitty year that he was most likely going to have for a whole load of reasons including his own actions.
If he continues to play shitty next year after we have an actual offseason and an actual offense, then the blame rests solely on him. But this year, under these circumstances… it’s really not surprising.
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by fanoftheunderdogs on Dec 29, 2011 12:58 PM CST up reply actions
I'm legitimately interested in this now, so let's take a poll.
I’m interested in seeing what people think. So let’s pose the question:
Were you expecting more production from Chris Johnson this year?
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by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Dec 29, 2011 1:05 PM CST up reply actions
Expecting more? to say the least...
4 f-ing TDs?!
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That's a non-question. Of course everyone was.
But in hindsight, we shouldn’t have.
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by fanoftheunderdogs on Dec 29, 2011 1:08 PM CST up reply actions
CAPS LOCK???
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by fanoftheunderdogs on Dec 29, 2011 1:08 PM CST up reply actions
on purpose yes
i was yelling WHAT in horror of ur comment. to be fair i havent read the full conversation yet
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We should have expected he was...?
but when he doesn’t produce we shouldn’t have expected it…? huh?
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In hindsight we shouldn't have expected it.
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by fanoftheunderdogs on Dec 29, 2011 1:10 PM CST up reply actions
You usually defend undefensible points, but this is just too much, even for you FOTU!
"He's an amazing talent. He's probably the most explosive back since Marshall Faulk and Barry Sanders." - Eddie George, about CJ.
Nonsense!
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by fanoftheunderdogs on Dec 29, 2011 1:12 PM CST up reply actions
This is stupid.
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This is still sparta.
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by fanoftheunderdogs on Dec 29, 2011 1:13 PM CST up reply actions
at the end of the season, when he doesn't produce well, we should have expected he wouldn't
I am going to go drown myself in the toilet now
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/Mission complete
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by fanoftheunderdogs on Dec 29, 2011 1:13 PM CST up reply actions
We should have expected him to produce well because he was suppose to!
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Whoops, meant to cut out the second line.
Kind of repetitive…
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by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Dec 29, 2011 1:08 PM CST up reply actions
I'm used to you being repetitive
Like every five seconds:
“You’re making excuses.”
“You’re making excuses.”
“You’re making excuses.”
“You’re making excuses.”
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by fanoftheunderdogs on Dec 29, 2011 1:09 PM CST up reply actions
Because you were.
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Where?
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by fanoftheunderdogs on Dec 29, 2011 1:10 PM CST up reply actions
Uhh, above, all over the place...?
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by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Dec 29, 2011 1:14 PM CST up reply actions
Lazy, WTF.
Just plain lazy.
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by fanoftheunderdogs on Dec 29, 2011 1:15 PM CST up reply actions
Fotu
While I actually agree with parts of your argument, it seems like you are not presenting it in the proper light. There are several circumstances that have lead to CJ having an off year that cannot be wholly attributed to him.
It is true that Palmer has a terrible history with the run game. It is also true that our interior oline is ranked dead last (or second to last) in DVOA rankings. As well the other RB’s on the field have not done any better with the same unit which shows that the running game as a whole is broken.
At the same time, CJ held out because he wanted the prime time dollars calling himself the best playmaker in the league. So even though there are several factors outside of CJ’s control, it was his fault for the elevated expectations that come with his words and the contract that he signed.
"I can name 31 other starting running backs that would have made that play" 104.5 the zone
As well the other RB’s on the field have not done any better with the same unit which shows that the running game as a whole is broken.
I think this is because the other RB’s suck.
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Not that I disagree
but the point is still valid that two other running backs have had little to no success behind the same oline.
CJ has been terrible for most of the year, but I’m not one to make excuses for the three oline that constantly seem to be 4 yards behind the line on running plays.
"I can name 31 other starting running backs that would have made that play" 104.5 the zone
That's exactly what I'm trying to say.
Only you just said it better.
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by fanoftheunderdogs on Dec 29, 2011 3:09 PM CST up reply actions
It really is the most perplexing thing I've seen this year.
I still can’t understand how we have two hall of fame lineman for coaches, both come from the days of true smash mouth football, and yet they have been utterly atrocious this year at run blocking.
At least we have pass blocking down.
"I can name 31 other starting running backs that would have made that play" 104.5 the zone
And after my shilacking of Palmer the other day,
I would like to say that he had one hell of a game plan last week.
The one thing I have noticed this year from our game plans is the consistent inconsitency of our offense. If our pass game is in a groove then the run game is off and vice versa.
"I can name 31 other starting running backs that would have made that play" 104.5 the zone
The thing that has irritated me, until this last game, about Palmer this year
is that it has taken him this long to abandon the run.
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If it were up to me
I would take out a third of our scheduled runs and make them swing passes and screen plays to CJ.
Where did our counters ever run of to?
"I can name 31 other starting running backs that would have made that play" 104.5 the zone
I've been waiting all year to see a Screen pass to Cook
Pettigrew-style.
I call it the the Wrecking Ball.
Seriously, TD everytime that play is called.
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please don't leave out "two steps back" Amano
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by fanoftheunderdogs on Dec 29, 2011 3:19 PM CST up reply actions
actual game footage.
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DID MJD GET A NEW OFFENSIVE COORDINATOR???
WHEN DID THIS HAPPEN!?!?!?!?
DO TELL!
LOUD NOISES!
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by fanoftheunderdogs on Dec 29, 2011 1:17 PM CST up reply actions
why did we get rid of our RB coach a few years back??
by Ice0ne (CAJ) on Dec 29, 2011 6:24 PM CST up reply actions
Are you talking about the one that got the job at USC?
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no that was kenny polamalu
i’mtalking about ernest byner, he was here for cj’s 2006 yard season.
we basically traded him to Jax for Kenny
by Ice0ne (CAJ) on Dec 29, 2011 6:35 PM CST up reply actions
jeezz
he made the good assistant coaches jump ship.. pfft
by Ice0ne (CAJ) on Dec 29, 2011 6:39 PM CST up reply actions
i just want to know how he fumbled out of nowhere
by Ice0ne (CAJ) on Dec 29, 2011 6:20 PM CST up reply actions
All of our running backs have had plenty of those
Even Cook fumbles out of no where. They happen
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Our running game is never going to be good under Palmer
hal was right.
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A fairy just lost its wings...
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by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Dec 29, 2011 11:53 AM CST up reply actions
Last in the league with a Titans rushing attack - I am starting to lean towards agreeing with you
although, we haven’t had this kind of passing attack with patch-work WRs since 2002 and #9. Something better happen to help fix our running game in the off-season, but are the days of the Fisherball-gone? I’d say it left with him when he was sent packing.
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by StPrattrick on Dec 29, 2011 11:53 AM CST up reply actions
Did he?!
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by StPrattrick on Dec 29, 2011 11:55 AM CST up reply actions
I just think Palmer is the opposite of Fisherball
This offense has Palmer’s history all over it
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Is that a bad thing?
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by StPrattrick on Dec 29, 2011 11:59 AM CST up reply actions
It is when your best (read:highest paid) player is a running back who can't catch
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by SoMissTitansFan on Dec 29, 2011 12:01 PM CST up reply actions
Who's fault is that? Palmers?
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The catching. it was rhetorical
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by StPrattrick on Dec 29, 2011 12:03 PM CST up reply actions
I disagree.
If I have to choose between the two, I would much rather have a successful passing attack instead of a run game. Munchak and Palmer are tied to Locker’s success, not CJ’s.
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by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Dec 29, 2011 12:17 PM CST up reply actions
I agree with this; when Fisher was here Fisherball was the problem, no passing game, always running the ball regardless of score and killing clock time (which we were horrible at)
now we’ve updated to NFLs pass-happy offense, and we want to go back to Fisherball? No thanks.
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by StPrattrick on Dec 29, 2011 12:20 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
So, a balanced offense is too much to ask for?
"He's an amazing talent. He's probably the most explosive back since Marshall Faulk and Barry Sanders." - Eddie George, about CJ.
by criollo_pcg on Dec 29, 2011 12:58 PM CST up reply actions
Read above;
Something better happen to help fix our running game in the off-season,
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by StPrattrick on Dec 29, 2011 12:59 PM CST up reply actions
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STOP MAKING EXCUSES!!!1
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by fanoftheunderdogs on Dec 29, 2011 1:00 PM CST up reply actions
That was a statement, not an excuse. I did not place blame on anyone or thing.
just sayin’
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Hey, you say I'm making excuses when I'm not.
I’m just returning the favor. :D
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by fanoftheunderdogs on Dec 29, 2011 1:03 PM CST up reply actions
You just made an excuse.
EXCUSES!!!!!
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by fanoftheunderdogs on Dec 29, 2011 1:08 PM CST up reply actions
I didn't say I didn't like it.
I am just referencing my CJ hate
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Can't say I completely hate that idea..
Retool the Oline and get CJ to get his vision and decisiveness back this offseason and then just use the rushing attack to supplement the pass.
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THere's no way Munch lets that stand
he was the guy picking the rushing plays under Dinger, so I’d hope he works with Palmer to fix those issues this offseason since they have a year’s worth of tape to review.
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Agreed
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by fanoftheunderdogs on Dec 29, 2011 12:15 PM CST up reply actions
Here are some of the Top WR in the past 10 years that are not from a big name football schools.
This does not include this year.
4th ’10 Mike Williams -Syracuse
7th ’10 Marc Mariani (returner) – Montanta
2nd ’09 Mike Wallace -Mississippi
4th ’09 Austin Collie -BYU
5th ’09 Johnny Knox -Alibene Christian
2nd ’08 Jordy Nelson -Kansas State
2nd ’08 Jerome Simpson -Coastal Carolina
6th ’08 Pierre Garcon -Mount Union
7th ’08 Stevie Johnson -Kentucky
3rd ’07 James Jones -San Jose State
2nd ’06 Greg Jennings -Western Michigan
4th ’06 Brandon Marshall -Central Florida
7th ’06 Marques Colston -Hofstra
1st ’05 Roddy White -UAB
2nd ’05 Vincent Jackson -Northern Colorado
2nd ’02 Deion Branch -Lousiville
2nd ’01 Chad “Ocho Cinco” Johnson -Oregon State
3rd ’01 Steve Smith -Utah
This is what I found some could be questionable.
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I wouldn't count Mariani
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by gramsey712 on Dec 29, 2011 12:12 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
BCS schools count as big name football schools.
Or that’s my opinion.
Teams I hate, in order of magnitude:
1a. Jaguars, 1b. Texans, 1c. Ravens, 4. Chargers, 5. Colts, 6. Cowboys, 7. Patriots, 8. Jets, 9. Rams, 10. Steelers
I think he meant we shouldn't count Mariani as a WR.
Because there is no evidence he’s any good at WR.
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by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Dec 29, 2011 12:18 PM CST up reply actions
I'll literally stab you
right in the tonsils
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Yeah, we need one that's very good at watching the ball sail out the back of the endzone.
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by fanoftheunderdogs on Dec 29, 2011 1:23 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
No shit..
stupid rules….
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Say what?
Why don’t you like his kick returning?
He’s literally the best returner we’ve had in YEARS.
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let’s be honest; that sets the bar pretty low to begin with.
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Yeah
go back to Derrick Mason.
This guy is returning kicks for touchdowns every year. You can’t ask for more. Seriously.
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Why? He was an incredible returner
I don’t miss him as a person obviously, and the whole getting arrested thing would have kept him from the field.
But he was awesome to watch return kicks.
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by fanoftheunderdogs on Dec 29, 2011 3:09 PM CST up reply actions
VY was good at throwing interceptions.
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by fanoftheunderdogs on Dec 29, 2011 3:11 PM CST up reply actions
And HOF worth at throwing shoulder pads
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Sarcasm?
Dude hasn’t had as many opportunities cause of the new rules, but one aspect of him as return man that I think is vastly under appreciated is his decision-making. For the most part, he does a great job of letting it go, making the fair catch and what not. What more do you want? Can’t help that he hasn’t had as many opportunities on kickoffs.
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by fanoftheunderdogs on Dec 29, 2011 1:35 PM CST up reply actions
I want a returner who can make somebody miss
Mariani is only successful when the blocking sets up perfectly. And I’m fairly certain he makes boneheaded decisions constantly. Like the game last year when he didn’t just catch the damn punt, and not catching the kickoff against the Colts.
The kind of returner I want is not easy to find…..Pacman, Hester, Josh Cribbs. I am just making the point that I want an actual kick returner. Not just a player who runs behind blocking.
And the only reason we like Mariani is the returner before him was Ryan Mouton.
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I like Mariani, he's been efficient. Made the pro-bowl his rookie year
yeah things have to go his way for him to take it to the house, but he pretty much always gets us above average yards on returns. Asking for Pacman, Hester, Cribbs type players are one in a million.
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Seriously
" I WANT DESEAN JACKSON TYPE PLAYER BACK THERE!"
Okay. I want Drew Brees at QB.
Fair?
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by JustinS on Dec 29, 2011 1:58 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I want Drew Brees at quarterback too
That is fair.
Why is this an issue?
I want a better kick returner.
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Mariani is the kick-returner we need
Because we don’t have anyone close to being any better.
Would I mind someone challenging him for it though? not at all.
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by JustinS on Dec 29, 2011 2:15 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
well if he’s not returning kicks here his value is pretty much nothing. I bet he’d be cut pretty damn quick.
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Then why would we want another returner
if their value is moot.
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some return men have other functions i.e. Jackson, Sproles, Amendola, and Harvin.
some of the “pure” return men are good enough at it that they don’t need another function i.e. Hester and Cribbs.
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I know this is a pipe dream
And Mariani is good enough that he is not even in the top 10 of our issues.
But I want that game-breaking returner. No matter if they have other value to the team or not.
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agreed
i wonder why we didn’t give trindon holiday a look
by Ice0ne (CAJ) on Dec 29, 2011 6:30 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah
but often they lose their return duties because they’re such a big contributer in other parts that the coaches don’t want them hurt.
Maybe we should put CJ back there seems as he isn’t giving us much in the run game.
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I dunno, all four of those guys are big parts of their respective offenses, Amendola not included but only because of injury.
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I haven't seen Jackson returning at all this year
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17 punts and a kick. so it would appear that they’re either not lining him up as much or teams just don’t kick to him, but you’d have to ask an Eagles fan.
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Hmm
Shitty year for him
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Desean Jackson is poop. I think Chad Hall and Lewis steal his return duties
Wasn't CJ a returner in college?
Well there you go.
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by fanoftheunderdogs on Dec 29, 2011 6:21 PM CST up reply actions
We also have Campbell back there
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Speed does not translate to vision
just ask CJ on how to do it wrong.
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I thought all cj saw was Amano's back
because thats all i see in CJ’s face when he gets the ball
by Ice0ne (CAJ) on Dec 29, 2011 11:31 PM CST up reply actions
It's just you're saying Mariani isn't a great kick returner
And I, as well as others, disagree with your evaluation.
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he kinda isn't, i'd keep as the Punt returner though
by Ice0ne (CAJ) on Dec 29, 2011 6:42 PM CST up reply actions
I think you're wrong
Look around the league and see how many different teams have people who are returning kicks for touchdowns. Mariani does is every year.
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he doesn't have a kick return
plus this is his second year, so we can’t say he’s consistent at it
by Ice0ne (CAJ) on Dec 29, 2011 7:23 PM CST up reply actions
Sorry
A punt return for a touchdown. Two years in a row is better than not and even just doing it once a year is saying something.
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Uh..
So he has only one return mistake per year? Sounds good to me.
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by fanoftheunderdogs on Dec 29, 2011 2:20 PM CST up reply actions
I have to agree Gramsey
A couple of days ago i asked how is Marc getting his Return Tds?
he doesnt juke or spin, and he has ok speed for a returner. he does have a nice stiff arm.
but thats it. he just has good vision
by Ice0ne (CAJ) on Dec 29, 2011 6:28 PM CST up reply actions
Everyone was a returner
KB, RInger, Mouton, Finny, Griff, and McCourty
by Ice0ne (CAJ) on Dec 29, 2011 6:29 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah I get that some of those teams are in BCS conferences but how many of those are the
LSU, Bama, Florida, Texas, USC
teams that year in and year out are favorites to win the national title. I think most of these teams finished .500 or a little better?
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Munch has also focused on hiring coaches who rely on positivity over negativity in the locker room
I love this.
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by fanoftheunderdogs on Dec 29, 2011 12:14 PM CST reply actions
How was this not a focus before...?
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by StPrattrick on Dec 29, 2011 12:15 PM CST up reply actions
Fisher focused on no-nonsense coaches.. thor likes no no-nonsense coaches.
Sorry for the terrible line, but I just could never understand why Fisher was always refered to as no-nonsense.
"He's an amazing talent. He's probably the most explosive back since Marshall Faulk and Barry Sanders." - Eddie George, about CJ.
If I read 'no-nonsense' one more time, my head might explode.
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by fanoftheunderdogs on Dec 29, 2011 1:04 PM CST up reply actions
No, I am honestly asking HOW was this not a focus before? as in I can't believe this wasn't promoted prior to
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I got your point.
That´s reporters/writers bullshit. Tou shouldn´t try to think like them, or your head might explode just like FOTU´s.
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It's about to:
Like every five seconds:
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"You’re making excuses."
"You’re making excuses."
"You’re making excuses."
-FOTUD
haha
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by StPrattrick on Dec 29, 2011 1:10 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
DInger got some great results at times
but he was a pretty rough dude to play for by most players’ accounts; especially WRs
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I think Dinger was the kinda coordinator we needed at the time anyways
I don’t think someone that was trying to be Vunce’s friend would have done any better at all, if not worse.
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I'd love to see the alternate timeline...
Where the coordinator here during Vince was more coddling and the “nurturing father” type and see how that would’ve worked out for Young. I’d also love to see the alternate one where we took Gabbert and he sat behind Hasselbeck while Locker started from the beginning for someone else and see what happened.
Fortunately all the above is only hypothetical and we got the better QB of the two…or three.
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by ronburgundy7427 on Dec 29, 2011 1:20 PM CST up reply actions
I am actually really happy just where we are.
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Disagree.
He never designed the offense according to Vince Young´s strenghts. The Tebow experiment is showing it can work.
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I am not talking about gameplan, I am talking about personality of the coaches.
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For a short period, sure.
I think defenses are already figuring out Tebow and it won’t last. Let’s also be real here…the Tebow experiment’s biggest success came against teams that didn’t have the best offenses so Denver’s defense was able to keep them in it.
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by ronburgundy7427 on Dec 29, 2011 1:22 PM CST up reply actions
I know.. it´s just one example.
And Young was better than Tebow.
"He's an amazing talent. He's probably the most explosive back since Marshall Faulk and Barry Sanders." - Eddie George, about CJ.
But Tebow has the power of Jesus!
and Young has the power of the brisket god.
Does this mean the brisket god is more powerful than Jesus? D:
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by fanoftheunderdogs on Dec 29, 2011 6:23 PM CST up reply actions
Former head of NFL officials and current TV commentator Mike Pereira took some hilarious shots at Jon Gruden, and I’m sure there are a boatload of people in the NFL who would agree.
Strange, in the comments on Fox Sports, I see a lot of people slamming him and defending Gruden.
I guess Gruden has more fans than I thought.
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They are all Gruden on Ghost Accounts
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by fanoftheunderdogs on Dec 29, 2011 1:21 PM CST up reply actions
CJ might only get 30 yards
But that means he would have 1000 on the season!
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I actually really really hope he doesn't get 1000.
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I hope he gets 1200.
Hint hint.
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by fanoftheunderdogs on Dec 29, 2011 6:17 PM CST up reply actions
We currently hold the 17th pick
Walter has us taking:
17. Cordy Glenn OG, UGA
52. Brandon Jenkins DE FSU
82. Sean Spence OLB Miami
I wouldn’t mind it if this class happened this way but I’m really intrigued by UNC WR Dwight Jones and Miami WR Tommy Streeter as 2nd round picks.
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by nolesbroncos3456 on Dec 29, 2011 2:25 PM CST reply actions
I think Dwight Jones is going to go late first.
Even if he drops to early second, I can’t see him being available at our pick. He would be an oustanding pick.
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by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Dec 29, 2011 2:28 PM CST up reply actions
I have read a ton of draft sites
That have Dwight Jones going in the 2nd or 3rd round…I think there is just a ton of talent at WR this year, so I think we can get a very talented WR in the 2nd/3rd round (Jones, Marvin McNutt, Juron Criner, Streeter, etc).
My draft plan right now would be to see if DeCastro lasts until our pick, if so, then I would take him in the 1st round. If not, then I would try really hard to trade back in the late 1st round and get an extra pick in the late 2nd round or 3rd round. Then, you can start looking at another OG, FS, WR, or DE with those picks.
by shawneriksmith on Dec 29, 2011 3:18 PM CST up reply actions
I LOVE that Marvin McNutt kid.
I’d take him in the second, even though he has a late 2nd/early 3rd grade.
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by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Dec 29, 2011 4:50 PM CST up reply actions
If anyone is watching this bowl game, I'm sorry for this god awful OL play from FSU
then again, I should be used to it by now, watching the Titans.
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ronburgundy banned by BBS for making comments on MCM, Champion of the People, I bow down in awe
Datsyuk, He could deke Victoria out of her secret… He’s THE MAN. posted by Josh Howard on Winging it in Motown 10/13/11
Titans DE Dave Ball on Blount: "It’s like trying to tackle a greased up, naked guy in the shower" 11/27/11
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by nolesbroncos3456 on Dec 29, 2011 6:20 PM CST reply actions
Bet you're singing a different tune now, huh? :P
[disclaimer: this poster has no idea what the hell he's talking about.]
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by fanoftheunderdogs on Dec 29, 2011 8:00 PM CST up reply actions
lol maybe. Trickett still needs to be fired
"I really can't stand that NFL guy, what's his name? Mel, yeah Mel Kiper Jr. He knows about as much about football as a Japanese space pilot." - Coach Trickett FSU
ronburgundy banned by BBS for making comments on MCM, Champion of the People, I bow down in awe
Datsyuk, He could deke Victoria out of her secret… He’s THE MAN. posted by Josh Howard on Winging it in Motown 10/13/11
Titans DE Dave Ball on Blount: "It’s like trying to tackle a greased up, naked guy in the shower" 11/27/11
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by nolesbroncos3456 on Dec 29, 2011 8:34 PM CST up reply actions
Baylor 67 Washington 56
Wow
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