Tennessee Titans Daily Links: When A Slump Becomes The New Normal Edition
by August West on Dec 20, 2011 10:39 AM CST
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Ugh. I get that there's an argument to be made that Hass is a huge part of the reason we're still in contention for a wildcard spot, and he's got the most experience in tight spots in the NFL. I get that. But anyone who's been watching this team all season has season has seen Hasselbeck's play steadily decline, it bottomed out last week with 2 INTs and a passer rating of 60.7. Over the past 6 games he's only had one week where he put up a passer rating over 80, and that was against the Saints when he totaled 7 attempts. Over that same stretch he's got 6 INTs to 2 TDs. If he does the same for the next two weeks, that's half the damned season with subpar QB play. Meanwhile Locker has provided a consistent spark when he comes in, and hasn't been turning the ball over. You just can't logically argue that Hass gives us a better chance to win right now, yet that's what Munch is somehow arguing. I don't know if we win the next two with Locker, but I do know that if win either of the next two with Locker on the bench it'll be in spite of Hasselbeck's play. It'll probably result in us going 8-8... again.
Sure as hell doesn't help Hasselbeck that CJ has a sprained ankle.
If CJ can't go you can probably look forward to an offense that heavily features two FBs on the field at the same time.
Tommie Campbell has been one of the great stories of this season, but he's got to control himself better than he did last week.
Jared Cook took a lot of abuse from us MCMers on Sunday, and a lot of it was deserved. That being said, I do appreciate that Cook showed some mental toughness to put those earlier mistakes behind him and make plays against that prevent defense down the stretch.
Speaking of Cook, FO rated him as the 5th best TE in the league in terms of yards after catch.
On FO also, as bad as Hasselbeck was against the Colts, at least he graded out better than Blaine 'Scaredy Cat' Gabbert.
PFF points out Michael Roos' rare bad day. I have to say I can't remember the last time he struggled with Dwight Freeney, who he usually keeps at bay.
William Hayes should be back to practice today after missing last week's game against the Colts.
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if Hasselbeck isn't miraculously healthier
we are getting swept by the Jaggoffs. even sunshine can hand off to MJD, and we just gave up 826353 yards rushing to the Colts and their far less dangerous RBs. Gimpy CJ, Gimpy Hasselbeck, and we may get swept by the damn Jaguars. face, meet palm.
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Houston is just lucky the AFC south sucked so bad this year.
It’ll probably result in us going 8-8… again.
Better then Fisher’s first 2 seasons…
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Jags have a better defense
and a better run game than the Colts. 8-8 is pretty presumptuous based on where this team is right now.
and all we had to do to be at 9-5 is not shit the bed against 2 awful teams, so even 8-8 will feel pretty damn hollow.
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Munch = Fisher! We should have hired externally! /ridiculousness
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i keep reading this ....
but what the hell are we supposed to do about it now?
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by BythePowerofMunchak! on Dec 20, 2011 2:34 PM CST up reply actions
oh mine was all snark.
Even if the records are the same, we know Munch =/= Fisher. We may not agree with everything he does, but he’s definitely not Fisher
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Locker starter we finish 9-7
Hasselbeck starter we finish 7-9
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by Titans_Firefighter on Dec 20, 2011 11:02 AM CST reply actions
oh fine StPratt. we will just finish 7-9 cause we suck.
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by Titans_Firefighter on Dec 20, 2011 11:13 AM CST up reply actions
Im just saying, Locker doesnt play defense, or special teams. Who do you think Locker is?
Jesus?
On Hiatus
Yes!
Locker is our Tebow.
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by Titans_Firefighter on Dec 20, 2011 11:24 AM CST up reply actions
Wait, what did I do?
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by StPrattrick on Dec 20, 2011 12:12 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
You're half the cast on MCM remember?
Must be Dagger too…
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by ronburgundy7427 on Dec 20, 2011 12:13 PM CST up reply actions
CAUGHT
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by StPrattrick on Dec 20, 2011 12:23 PM CST up reply actions
Its because of how you said in the so you're saying there is a chance post about the playoffs.
he was just acting how you did, but i know you arent like that all the time.
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by Titans_Firefighter on Dec 20, 2011 12:20 PM CST up reply actions
I. Do. What. I. Want.
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by StPrattrick on Dec 20, 2011 12:23 PM CST up reply actions
There are so many reasons why Locker should be starting now
I will not address the argument that Locker is simply a better QB at this point in time and gives us a better chance at winning. That argument has been made many times (and I totally agree with it).
What about the argument that our season is essentially over and we need to get Locker some reps to prepare for next year? If we had a real shot at the Super Bowl, then I could see playing Hass. We don’t. We have 0.000001 chance of making the Super Bowl, so why not let Locker get some valuable experience?
Who is our QB of the future? It is Locker, not Hasselbeck. So why are we giving playing time to Hasselbeck when our season is essentially over? Even if we do make the playoffs with Hass, do we really think he will be able to take this team into Pittsburgh, Foxborough or Baltimore and win? Not a chance. So lets give the young guy the valuable experience he needs. Face it, Hasselbeck did what we asked him to do. He provided the transition from Vince to Locker. Now lets see what Locker can do as a starter.
He directly made it over by keeping Hass in and losing to the Colts.
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by BonzosMontreaux on Dec 20, 2011 11:12 AM CST up reply actions
Doesn't Locker have zero wins?
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0 starts too.
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by BonzosMontreaux on Dec 20, 2011 11:20 AM CST up reply actions
0 wins in 2 attempts, so he sits
But, if he was able to get 2 wins in 2 attempts, he would be starting this week because he was able to pull a rabbit out of his ass.
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by SiriusTitansFan on Dec 20, 2011 4:55 PM CST up reply actions
Wait, you don't understand.
The offense scoring 23 points with Hasselbeck is actually [i]different[/i] than the offense scoring 17 points with Locker.
See, Locker is better, because he can run. Also, their December completion percentage of 66% (Hasselbeck) to 54% (Locker) is totally different!!!
Not because Locker has mainly faced prevent defenses in late game situations, no, not at all! Not because of a poor O Line, WRs who have difficulty running routes and getting separation, not that either! It’s because Locker is the savior for a bad overall team! Got it?
All I’m saying is people are going to be mighty disappointed if Locker becomes human. Like he was in the Saints game.
Our season and playoff chances are not actually over and Munch knows it.
If we were mathematically eliminated from the playoffs I think he would go with Locker. If we lose with Hasselbeck next week, I think you’ll see Locker starting against Houston. Hasselbeck, despite popular opinion hasn’t played quite bad enough to be benched for the rookie sadly. If he were 100% healthy and still played as poorly, i think he would have been benched. If he were just a little more injured, I think he would not be the starter at this point. Hell, if he hadn’t played so well early on, he would be holding that clipboard. There are just enough excuses to keep Hasselbeck starting for this next game. Is it the wrong decision, idk, but I think so. Sometimes you go for it on 4th and 1 and sometimes you don’t. Munchak definitely has more football knowledge than any of us and more inside information. I say we trust our 1st year head coach. Hes brought us this far.
by Jason Jones on Dec 20, 2011 12:49 PM CST up reply actions
hasselbeck hasn't been good for well over a month though
sooooo, yeah. playing injured players who cant get it done because of those injuries is dumb. at least go down swinging with Locker.
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by hal41605 on Dec 20, 2011 12:51 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
i think you missed my point
I would love to see Locker our full time starter, ever since the Atlanta game to be honest. I still say Munchak knows more of the situation with Hasselbeck and Locker than me, you, or anyone posting here. I know this loss was a tough one to swallow. I threw my coffee table against the wall while watching this game. I want Locker just as bad as anyone else to be the starter, but I trust this head coach.
would love to have that same trust
but when Munchak steps up to the podium and says “Matt wasn’t injured,” no amount of Kool Aid is bringing me around.
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Agreed, Munch is losing some credibility with me in that regard
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by TitanNDCClothing on Dec 20, 2011 1:31 PM CST up reply actions
FO also had Damian Williams as the least valuable WR for the second time
Not a bright sign of his future
2 FBs on the field at the same time? but but but they play the same position!! it can't happen!
/mind blown + Fisher’d.
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by nolesbroncos3456 on Dec 20, 2011 11:29 AM CST reply actions
When TN wins the SB, MCM will have nothing to talk about
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by rothbard on Dec 20, 2011 11:33 AM CST reply actions 3 recs
WE SHOULD'VE SCORED MOAR!!!!111
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by ronburgundy7427 on Dec 20, 2011 11:34 AM CST up reply actions
Wrong. We will be talking how they ahould have been 19-0
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by Titans_Firefighter on Dec 20, 2011 11:34 AM CST up reply actions
We can always call Babin a douche
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by sami426 on Dec 20, 2011 12:17 PM CST up reply actions 3 recs
Babin is such a douche.
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by StPrattrick on Dec 20, 2011 12:23 PM CST up reply actions
he may be a douche
but he almost has more sacks this season than our entire team
For the Jake of argument ...
by BythePowerofMunchak! on Dec 20, 2011 2:36 PM CST up reply actions
Who cares? Sacks won't cover up how big of a douche he is...
… or maybe it will?
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and the Eagles still suck
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And the Eagles record is?...
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by ronburgundy7427 on Dec 20, 2011 3:00 PM CST up reply actions
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by Titans_Firefighter on Dec 20, 2011 12:24 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
Quick numbers....
And yes I know that they aren’t on the same basis (opponent prepared for Hasselbeck, opponent in prevent, etc.)
I broke the them down into quarters of play since Locker seems to come in quite well on the quarter mark. I ignored Lockers first two games since they were junk time. That should help both QBs numbers in this.
Season:
Hasselbeck – 2,924 yards, 15 TDs, 12 INTS, 80.9 Rating
Locker – 530 yards, 4 TDs, 0 INTs, 99.4 Rating (whole season…didn’t want to recalc it without the 2 games…lazy).
By Quarter:
Hasselbeck – 51.5 qtrs, 56.8 yards/qtr, 0.29 TDs/qtr, 0.23 INTs/qtr
Locker – 3.5 qtrs, 151.4 yds/qtr, 1.14 TDs/ qtr, 0 INTs
Can’t directly compare the two like this, but it’s the best I’ve got right now.
How about wins?
My point is not to discredit Locker—the point is that the problem is not H-beck vs. Locker.
Well in most cases Locker came in too late to win the game and he hasn't had an official start.
He made a couple good runs at the end of those games though. Also, don’t take this to think I’m discounting what Hasselbeck has done for the Titans. I’m a big fan of his now. And you’re right that it’s not as simple as which QB will do better. Looking at the Colts game, we can all see what kinda of problems need fixing.
Hasselbeck =
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