Navigation: Jump to content areas:


Pro Quality. Fan Perspective.
Login-facebook
Around SBN: Shaq As Orlando Magic General Manager? Don't Bet On It

Taking a Step Back From the Titans Loss to the Colts

Spirit fingers.  (Photo by John Grieshop/Getty Images)

Yesterday was a day filled with anger. There is absolutely no reason for a team that is fighting for the playoffs to come out and look like the team that didn't have anything to play for against an 0-13 team. Everyone has been asking who to blame for that. Is Mike Munchak the one to blame? Is Chris Palmer the one to blame? Are the players who should be blamed? Of course the answer is yes. That loss goes on everyone who gets a paycheck from Bud Adams.

We need to take a step back though and realize what this team actually is. We have gotten all caught up in the chase for the playoffs and forgotten that this team is just a mediocre team. Does that excuse the fact that on multiple occasions this season they have come out flat like they did yesterday? No, but let's also not act like this is the 1985 Bears that lost to an 0-13 team.

I really hope Mike Reinfeldt is being honest with himself about what this team is. Sure, at the end of the season they are more than likely going to be a team that missed the playoffs by a game or two, but that does not mean they are close to being a legitimate contender. There are still a lot of holes that need to be filled.

There are also a lot of guys that don't need to be here next year. Last week Cortland Finnegan jumped at the opportunity to call this his last year with the Titans. There has been a lot of talk about possibly franchising him if they cannot reach a long-term deal. I say they do neither. Look at guys like Drew Brees and Ray Rice. They are playing in the last year of their respective contracts, and when they get asked about it they say they are just concerned with winning right now and that the contract stuff will take care of itself in the offseason. That is what a leader says.

Star-divide

Finnegan tries to be a leader, but he isn't. A leader leads always, not just when it is easy or when things are going well. It was great that he organized the workouts during the lockout, but that didn't mean a hill of beans when he jumped ship during camp or is complaining about his contract during a playoff run.

I am being too hard on Finnegan here, I realize that, but it is time to get guys in here that care more about the good of the team than their contracts. The same things could be said for Chris Johnson.

Frank Wycheck said on the radio this morning that Eddie George or Steve McNair would have jumped all over a guy for saying what Finnegan said last week. Where are those guys on the Titans now? I do think that Colin McCarthy will develop into that guy, but right now there is absolutely no one the defensive side of the ball that will stand up and be leader. The Titans need to make sure they identify a veteran player at safety or on the defensive line that can come in and do it.

Yes, Mike, that means you have to sign a free agent. I agree that building through the draft is the best way to build a team that is competitive for the long term, but the teams that are good at that also add a key free agent when they have a need. The Titans cannot be afraid to do that.

Obviously there will be plenty of time in the coming weeks and months to talk about an offseason plan, but the point of this rambling post is that this team still has a long way to go before being a legitimate contender. That loss yesterday should serve as an embarrassing reminder of that.

Comment 359 comments  |  0 recs  | 

Do you like this story?

Comments

Display:

I'm still pissed

And I am pissed at my favorite team. I have never been angry at the entire team before, but that performance yesterday was ridiculous.

Official MCM Hater!

Nate Washington Fanboy

by gramsey712 on Dec 19, 2011 12:27 PM CST reply actions  

I really want us to sign a big name this year

No more decent players like All-State. Yes: Nate turned out amazing finally. But a lot of decent guys only stay decent

It's all fun and games until someone gets a concussion from a stray flying footbal. *cough* Kerry *cough*

by MikeGriffFan27 on Dec 19, 2011 12:28 PM CST via mobile reply actions  

agree completely

Titans sign to many MEH type of free agents that no one else really wants… they try to fill holes on the cheap

by dragak1981 on Dec 19, 2011 12:29 PM CST up reply actions  

Filling holes on the cheap is great when you are just filing holes

But trying to make a starting lineup with the cheap isn’t the greatest approach

It's all fun and games until someone gets a concussion from a stray flying footbal. *cough* Kerry *cough*

by MikeGriffFan27 on Dec 19, 2011 12:32 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

I disagree.

You always end up overpaying in free agency, and those contracts bite you later on.

2012: The year we clip the Hawk.

by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Dec 19, 2011 12:35 PM CST up reply actions  

A la Haynesworth

It's all fun and games until someone gets a concussion from a stray flying footbal. *cough* Kerry *cough*

by MikeGriffFan27 on Dec 19, 2011 12:37 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Yup.

Every year there are tons of big name signings, and NFLN goes all crazy with glee, but the reality is that’s not how you build a consistent winner. Cap management is consistently underrated, in my opinion.

2012: The year we clip the Hawk.

by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Dec 19, 2011 12:39 PM CST up reply actions  

I just feel like we need to make a move

Our mediocrity is getting old. Will I stop being a fan over this? Hell no. But I really want to see us take that step onto the next level. But I’m preaching to the choir right now

It's all fun and games until someone gets a concussion from a stray flying footbal. *cough* Kerry *cough*

by MikeGriffFan27 on Dec 19, 2011 12:40 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

The best teams don't do that.

It makes for good headlines, but how many high-end FA additions have you seen teams like the Packers and Patriots make? Not many.

Banned from Stampede Blue for comments made on MCM. Yes, I am a champion.

by ronburgundy7427 on Dec 19, 2011 12:41 PM CST up reply actions  

Packers, Patriots, Steelers, Saints (okay, Brees)...

The great teams in this league build from within.

2012: The year we clip the Hawk.

by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Dec 19, 2011 12:43 PM CST up reply actions  

QB may be the one exception if you don't have one and there's a good one out there.

But Brees also had that injury history before going to New Orleans so it wasn’t exactly guaranteed at the time that he’d become what he has. I’d love to see the alternate timeline where he ended up in Miami and what would’ve happened to both teams.

Banned from Stampede Blue for comments made on MCM. Yes, I am a champion.

by ronburgundy7427 on Dec 19, 2011 12:45 PM CST up reply actions  

Ochocinco = bust

You’re right in this situation. But look at Randy Moss in his younger years, Ladanian Tomlinson, Darren Sproles, and Santonio Holmes. They were effective

It's all fun and games until someone gets a concussion from a stray flying footbal. *cough* Kerry *cough*

by MikeGriffFan27 on Dec 19, 2011 12:45 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

They also didn't give Ochocinco a ridiculous contract.

I don’t think Sproles got a huge one either, and I want to say Holmes was traded from the Redskins to the Jets, could have faulty memory there.

Banned from Stampede Blue for comments made on MCM. Yes, I am a champion.

by ronburgundy7427 on Dec 19, 2011 12:46 PM CST up reply actions  

4th round pick if my memory is still operational.

"He's an amazing talent. He's probably the most explosive back since Marshall Faulk and Barry Sanders." - Eddie George, about CJ.

by criollo_pcg on Dec 19, 2011 12:50 PM CST up reply actions  

5th

Google

It's all fun and games until someone gets a concussion from a stray flying footbal. *cough* Kerry *cough*

by MikeGriffFan27 on Dec 19, 2011 12:50 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

I'm not saying we need a fat contract. Just a better player like Sproles and LT

And yes, Holmes was traded from Pittsburgh.

It's all fun and games until someone gets a concussion from a stray flying footbal. *cough* Kerry *cough*

by MikeGriffFan27 on Dec 19, 2011 12:49 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

I would also argue those teams situations were entirely different.

Saints were a Super Bowl contender with an already high-octane offense that Sproles just added another dimension to. LT came in as a situational guy for a team that used more than one RB and relied on their defense to win games.

We’re still in a place where we’re rebuilding and getting a young nucleus together.

Banned from Stampede Blue for comments made on MCM. Yes, I am a champion.

by ronburgundy7427 on Dec 19, 2011 12:51 PM CST up reply actions  

I under stand your logic and have to agree

But I think we all can agree to go big on the interior line. We can’t get worse than we are now

It's all fun and games until someone gets a concussion from a stray flying footbal. *cough* Kerry *cough*

by MikeGriffFan27 on Dec 19, 2011 12:53 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

I'm sure they will address those concerns in the draft,

or maybe with a mid-level free agent signing. They key is finding someone young, with potential, and doesn’t want a whole bank delivered to his house.

2012: The year we clip the Hawk.

by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Dec 19, 2011 12:54 PM CST up reply actions  

Yes, and you can do that through not-huge signings.

3 yrs/$20 million could get a solid upgrade or maybe a Jeff Saturday-type (the more I think about it, I would love to grab him. Good veteran AND kill the Colts’ O-line), then you can either sign another guy or use the draft to fill in the other pieces. I still expect one of Harris/Amano to be back.

Banned from Stampede Blue for comments made on MCM. Yes, I am a champion.

by ronburgundy7427 on Dec 19, 2011 12:55 PM CST up reply actions  

The Titans making a big signing would be like Moss on the Raiders.

Too little solution for too many problems.

"He's an amazing talent. He's probably the most explosive back since Marshall Faulk and Barry Sanders." - Eddie George, about CJ.

by criollo_pcg on Dec 19, 2011 12:48 PM CST up reply actions  

I don't see us being mediocre.

I see us as one of the best rebuilding teams out there. I say that seriously. Rebuilding is usually a lot uglier than 7-7. The record may seem mediocre, but its all about the situation.

2012: The year we clip the Hawk.

by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Dec 19, 2011 12:42 PM CST up reply actions  

Once again I do the same thing almost every Titan fan has done this year

Forget we are rebuilding

It's all fun and games until someone gets a concussion from a stray flying footbal. *cough* Kerry *cough*

by MikeGriffFan27 on Dec 19, 2011 12:46 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

The problem is we are more than one move away from contention.

I would be all for that big move if I thought it would solve all of our problems.

"He's an amazing talent. He's probably the most explosive back since Marshall Faulk and Barry Sanders." - Eddie George, about CJ.

by criollo_pcg on Dec 19, 2011 12:45 PM CST up reply actions  

just look at the "dream team"

tons of big name FA signings….not much to show for it on field (tho they could still sneak in)

by NJ Titans Fan on Dec 19, 2011 8:59 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

A la Julius Peppers? A la Reggie White? A la Drew Brees? A la Charles Woodson?

A la Kurt Warner? A la Deion Sanders?

I am going to shut up now. I am still angry.

by tdtommyd on Dec 19, 2011 1:26 PM CST up reply actions  

One by one:

Peppers: Ridiculous contract. Outstanding player, but I would not sink that much money into that one player.
White: From what I’ve heard, yes.
Brees: Great signing, no doubt. But there was some injury risk there, lowering the price.
Woodson: Okay
Warner: No. They signed him after he played terrible with the Giants. That wasn’t a “big” signing.
Sanders: I don’t know anything about him, he was before my time.

2012: The year we clip the Hawk.

by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Dec 19, 2011 1:29 PM CST up reply actions  

And if we're talking about him going to the Redskins, not sure he played outstanding at that point.

And Reggie White…I believe that was in the last years before the salary cap, and in fact I think he was the catalyst for getting free agency going in the form we know it today.

Banned from Stampede Blue for comments made on MCM. Yes, I am a champion.

by ronburgundy7427 on Dec 19, 2011 1:34 PM CST up reply actions  

Because every FA signing is Haynesworth-esque?

Interweb DVOA: +100%
Epistemological Police
Member of CJ Sucks Club. Brah is bad.

by rothbard on Dec 19, 2011 2:10 PM CST up reply actions  

Unfortunately you also have to look at the business side of things.

Would you really want them spending $70 million on a guy? How well have the Eagles FA additions turned out?

Banned from Stampede Blue for comments made on MCM. Yes, I am a champion.

by ronburgundy7427 on Dec 19, 2011 12:36 PM CST up reply actions  

It was actually pretty brilliant the way the handled all the signing

the FO certainly did everything they could to bring a Super Bowl to the Eagles… but EVERYONE knows you can’t successful build a winning “dream team” like they did over one season.

You have been banned from Stampede Blue.
Calling a site admin a ‘fuhrer’ gets you banned without warning.
The Saint of MCM

by StPrattrick on Dec 19, 2011 12:38 PM CST up reply actions  

I think there's more at play there.

Specifically, electing to have your O-Line coach become the defensive coordinator.

by SuperHorn on Dec 19, 2011 12:39 PM CST up reply actions  

I was just about to say that.

It doesn’t help that they don’t seem to be utilizing these guys effectively, I read somewhere that Asumaga is more of a man-cover guy who can just shut down the opposing team’s number one, and they’ve been using him in zone and moving him around.

Banned from Stampede Blue for comments made on MCM. Yes, I am a champion.

by ronburgundy7427 on Dec 19, 2011 12:40 PM CST up reply actions  

I was saying that last week...

they have moved Asumaga from zone corner, to safety, to LB. Essentially the same thing Washington did to Haynesworth…

You have been banned from Stampede Blue.
Calling a site admin a ‘fuhrer’ gets you banned without warning.
The Saint of MCM

by StPrattrick on Dec 19, 2011 12:41 PM CST up reply actions  

Titans are close but do have too many holes

There is just not enough talent on either side of the ball, and it especially up front in the O-line and D-line…those guys are not getting it done…that is where to start….

And doing it through the draft alone will not do it…they need to sign some GOOD free agents….not guys who are mediocre and don’t make an impact a la Shaun Smith or in the best Jovan Haye (huge waste of money and space)

And the coaches are definitely in question and I mean you PALMER!

by dragak1981 on Dec 19, 2011 12:28 PM CST reply actions  

Do you think Locker could become that leader for us?

Should he be doing these things this early? or do you think he is doing the right thing right now?

You have been banned from Stampede Blue.
Calling a site admin a ‘fuhrer’ gets you banned without warning.
The Saint of MCM

by StPrattrick on Dec 19, 2011 12:29 PM CST reply actions  

He has to earn some respect with some wins...

But the dude looks like a born leader…I don’t know if he is outspoken enough

by dragak1981 on Dec 19, 2011 12:30 PM CST up reply actions  

He was pretty outspoken in Washington, but not in an extreme way

I just want to see him take over a team like he did there.

You have been banned from Stampede Blue.
Calling a site admin a ‘fuhrer’ gets you banned without warning.
The Saint of MCM

by StPrattrick on Dec 19, 2011 12:32 PM CST up reply actions  

He's being smart by sitting back and watching

In a few years, he will be that leader that tells people that they need to cut this crap out. Him and McCarthy are our leaders

It's all fun and games until someone gets a concussion from a stray flying footbal. *cough* Kerry *cough*

by MikeGriffFan27 on Dec 19, 2011 12:30 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

I would love this

You have been banned from Stampede Blue.
Calling a site admin a ‘fuhrer’ gets you banned without warning.
The Saint of MCM

by StPrattrick on Dec 19, 2011 12:32 PM CST up reply actions  

Team captains of future:

It's all fun and games until someone gets a concussion from a stray flying footbal. *cough* Kerry *cough*

by MikeGriffFan27 on Dec 19, 2011 12:33 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

#10, #20, #52

It's all fun and games until someone gets a concussion from a stray flying footbal. *cough* Kerry *cough*

by MikeGriffFan27 on Dec 19, 2011 12:33 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

In time, yes.

Right now, however, this obviously isn’t his team just yet and he’s only a rookie. I think he’s doing the right thing now by keeping his head down and doing what he needs to do to get himself ready to be a starting QB in the NFL.

Banned from Stampede Blue for comments made on MCM. Yes, I am a champion.

by ronburgundy7427 on Dec 19, 2011 12:33 PM CST up reply actions  

I guess I was asking what would you guys think if he came out telling people "what's up"

would you think he’s being ridiculous, or this is the kind of leader we’ve been waiting for?

You have been banned from Stampede Blue.
Calling a site admin a ‘fuhrer’ gets you banned without warning.
The Saint of MCM

by StPrattrick on Dec 19, 2011 12:34 PM CST up reply actions  

I would think it's too soon for him to be doing that.

And I think he’d get blasted for it. I want him to be that guy, we desperately need it…but it’s just not his time yet. Ideally you would hope Hasselbeck is doing that sort of stuff right now.

Banned from Stampede Blue for comments made on MCM. Yes, I am a champion.

by ronburgundy7427 on Dec 19, 2011 12:37 PM CST up reply actions  

Very true, I think Hass did start doing that.. but he's still an outsider, in a way

and now he is taking the brunt of the problems for the teams performance.
Kinda hard to throw stones in a glass house.

You have been banned from Stampede Blue.
Calling a site admin a ‘fuhrer’ gets you banned without warning.
The Saint of MCM

by StPrattrick on Dec 19, 2011 12:40 PM CST up reply actions  

The whole thing to consider is that you never know who is being the leader in the locker room.

It’s hard to imagine Locker sitting anyone down behind the scenes as a rookie, but it’s not really hard to imagine Hass pulling someone like Finnegan aside and saying, “Now’s not the time for that.” We fans will never really know what’s going on, in that regard.

"Do the Titans have a miracle left in them in what has been a magical season to this point? If they do, they need it now. Christie kicks it high and short. Gonna be fielded by Lorenzo Neal at the 25; he dishes it back to Wycheck; he throws it across the field to Dyson. 30, 40, 50, 40, 30, 20, 10, 5, endzone...touchdown, Titans! There are no flags on the field! It's a miracle! Tennessee has pulled a miracle! A miracle for the Titans!"

by TennesseeTyrants on Dec 19, 2011 12:44 PM CST up reply actions  

i agree we let him go.

I think he’s perceived as a little bitch by the league and I don’t want that to be face of defense. Also I wonder if moving derrick morgan to outside linebacker would help him.

by CJ2K shrine on Dec 19, 2011 12:30 PM CST via mobile reply actions  

Not fast enough.

Consider, though, that ACL injuries sometimes take more than a year to get back to 100%. I’m reserving final judgement until I know he’s totally healthy.

by SuperHorn on Dec 19, 2011 12:37 PM CST up reply actions  

http://www.rotoworld.com/teams/contracts/nfl/ten/

It's all fun and games until someone gets a concussion from a stray flying footbal. *cough* Kerry *cough*

by MikeGriffFan27 on Dec 19, 2011 12:36 PM CST via mobile reply actions  

What i hate is that we are mediocre.

Mediocrity is the WORST state to be in. If we suck, i can deal with that, i can watch us rebuild. If were good/great. Nice, i wanna watch us compete. But to play like both, to lose stupid and win great. It’s just horrible. Because we don’t stink enough to get a good draft pick. So were stuck. I fucking hate it.

Lemme See Your HANDS!

by TitansJonne on Dec 19, 2011 12:37 PM CST reply actions  

We're a mediocre team rebuilding...

So I wouldn’t necessarily rule out that we’re just “mediocre” and not “rebuilding”.

Banned from Stampede Blue for comments made on MCM. Yes, I am a champion.

by ronburgundy7427 on Dec 19, 2011 12:38 PM CST up reply actions  

We are rebuilding.

We sucked enough to get a good draft pick last year, and now that player is going to lead the rebuild.

2012: The year we clip the Hawk.

by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Dec 19, 2011 12:40 PM CST up reply actions  

Leadership has been lacking since last year.

MCM Logic > Real Logic
Titans Dave Ball on tackling Bucs Blount: "It’s like trying to tackle a greased up, naked guy in the shower."
"You give Peyton Manning a better gm, coach, owner and he goes down as the greatest person to ever live." - coltsfan1888
MCM's Official Knee-Jerk Reaction Game Thread Over Dramatic Poster

by Dynamic Dreadlocks on Dec 19, 2011 12:39 PM CST via mobile reply actions  

Last year?

Who’d we have last year that was a leader?

Banned from Stampede Blue for comments made on MCM. Yes, I am a champion.

by ronburgundy7427 on Dec 19, 2011 12:40 PM CST up reply actions  

I think he meant it was a problem last year also.

"He's an amazing talent. He's probably the most explosive back since Marshall Faulk and Barry Sanders." - Eddie George, about CJ.

by criollo_pcg on Dec 19, 2011 12:41 PM CST up reply actions  

Yes

I meant it’s been a problem for this and last yearr

MCM Logic > Real Logic
Titans Dave Ball on tackling Bucs Blount: "It’s like trying to tackle a greased up, naked guy in the shower."
"You give Peyton Manning a better gm, coach, owner and he goes down as the greatest person to ever live." - coltsfan1888
MCM's Official Knee-Jerk Reaction Game Thread Over Dramatic Poster

by Dynamic Dreadlocks on Dec 19, 2011 12:58 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

He means including last year.

It's all fun and games until someone gets a concussion from a stray flying footbal. *cough* Kerry *cough*

by MikeGriffFan27 on Dec 19, 2011 12:42 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

i was listening to Finnegan on his radio show

he was practically begging the Titans to re-sign him. Said he never wants to leave the city of Nashville or the Titans organization. what an asshole

the real problem is we have a GM who apparently has no clue how to handle contract negotiations. even if we don’t end up keeping him, giving our best players the silent treatment serves absolutely no one’s interest. star talents who are also fantastic members of the community and openly express the desire to never leave don’t just fall out of the sky all the time.

for all his drafting skills, Mike could learn a hell of a lot in regards to his people skills. stringing things out with CJ was pointless (as he caved and wrote the big check anyway), and not even talking to Finnegan’s agent is pointless too. pick up the damn phone Mike. negotiate. at least go through the damn motions so the guys thinks you are half way interested in him. maybe it works out, maybe it doesn’t, but what’s wrong with having the discussion?

Pearl for Life.
I hate football.

by hal41605 on Dec 19, 2011 12:41 PM CST reply actions  

wow sarcasm font covers up

“he was practically begging”

Pearl for Life.
I hate football.

by hal41605 on Dec 19, 2011 12:42 PM CST up reply actions  

/two-tears-for-poor-oppressed-finnegan

Interweb DVOA: +100%
Epistemological Police
Member of CJ Sucks Club. Brah is bad.

by rothbard on Dec 19, 2011 2:12 PM CST up reply actions  

nice try

Pearl for Life.
I hate football.

by hal41605 on Dec 19, 2011 2:17 PM CST up reply actions  

When the season started, I think we all expected a 5 or 6 win season, as most did.

But when this team started coming together and giving us hope by beating the Ravens, etc. I dont think many expected us to be in the middle of a playoff race, so for all this to happen with coming out flat and fizzling out to end the year, I think we all have a right to be angry.

MCM's Favorite Hawkeye

by rsikes on Dec 19, 2011 12:42 PM CST reply actions  

I for one expected 8-10 wins

Just based on the strength of our schedule. I certainly didnt see us losing to the jags/colts but beating the ravens, thats whats more infuriating how damn inconsistent we are

by alijeal on Dec 19, 2011 4:44 PM CST up reply actions  

I think the biggest issue here is that we were all misled into believing that this was a semi-competitive football team.

In a year that should have been much worse considering the coaching transition and lockout, this staff and team managed to field a decent team. And, really, if KB stays healthy, we’re probably looking at a playoff berth.

Expectations were in the basement to start the season, the coaching staff pulls a rabbit out of a hat, KB gets injured beginning a losing slide, and suddenly we’re all pissed off about?

All things considered, this season has been a success and a great stepping stone moving forward. Yesterday was painful, but these things happen over the course of an NFL season. The game is fresh, but it’s important to look at the body of work here; in particular, the strides that Locker appears to have made over the offseason. He’s the real story here.

No harm in kneejerk reactions following this horrible loss. I’d suggest, though, that all fans take a step back and really consider a broader perspective of the state of the franchise moving forward. I think this coaching staff has us moving in the right direction.

by SuperHorn on Dec 19, 2011 12:50 PM CST reply actions  

Again, we didn't get beat because we weren't talented

We got beat because we didn’t show up.

Two completely different worlds in my head.

Official MCM Hater!

Nate Washington Fanboy

by gramsey712 on Dec 19, 2011 12:51 PM CST up reply actions  

No question.

Consider that we also played above our pay grade against Baltimore and probably against Carolina, too, considering our dominance that game.

by SuperHorn on Dec 19, 2011 1:04 PM CST up reply actions  

we didn't even need KB to make the playoffs

we just needed one less loss against 2 terrible teams, Jax and Indy

Pearl for Life.
I hate football.

by hal41605 on Dec 19, 2011 12:52 PM CST up reply actions  

Cincy is at least an average team though

we lost twice to teams in the bottom 5 of the league.

Pearl for Life.
I hate football.

by hal41605 on Dec 19, 2011 12:54 PM CST up reply actions  

more importantly, lost once to the bottom 1 of the league!

/ican´tgetoverit

"He's an amazing talent. He's probably the most explosive back since Marshall Faulk and Barry Sanders." - Eddie George, about CJ.

by criollo_pcg on Dec 19, 2011 12:55 PM CST up reply actions  

I guess you can look at it that way.

But, we had no business beating Baltimore in the beginning of the season. That gave us one more AFC win, which allows us to continue to be in the wildcard discussion considering the tie breaking scenarios. A loss to them, and these final games probably have significantly less meaning.

by SuperHorn on Dec 19, 2011 1:05 PM CST up reply actions  

We have the talented pieces on both sides of the ball.

Locker, Johnson, Britt, etc on offense. McCourty and Verner are up and coming, our LB core is good, same with DL. If Morgan gets healthy our DL line will be so much better. We just need to fine tune some parts. The draft will help fix that, along with camp, OTAs, and so on.

by TootooReigns on Dec 19, 2011 12:52 PM CST reply actions  

If we're lucky, right?

Official MCM Hater!

Nate Washington Fanboy

by gramsey712 on Dec 19, 2011 12:55 PM CST up reply actions   2 recs

i still think the tackles will be fine

hard to have unit cohesion when %60 of the unit blows

Pearl for Life.
I hate football.

by hal41605 on Dec 19, 2011 12:56 PM CST up reply actions  

Both of them disappointed me yesterday.

But I trust that they’ll pick their game back up.

Banned from Stampede Blue for comments made on MCM. Yes, I am a champion.

by ronburgundy7427 on Dec 19, 2011 12:57 PM CST up reply actions  

Not so fast on the DL.

Jones hasn’t shown he can effectively transition to DE, Morgan is still a question cause of the injury. DT has some nice young guys but the depth isn’t that good. We really need a strong pass-rusher at DE and better depth for the rotation all along the line.

Banned from Stampede Blue for comments made on MCM. Yes, I am a champion.

by ronburgundy7427 on Dec 19, 2011 12:56 PM CST up reply actions  

I'd honestly be fine with moving him back there.

Grab a DE early, sign a modest one for the rotation. Then you’ve got an interior with Casey, Smith (if he sticks, can’t remember how long his deal is), Klug and probably another newbie for the interior rotation. Oh, or possibly Clayton.

Banned from Stampede Blue for comments made on MCM. Yes, I am a champion.

by ronburgundy7427 on Dec 19, 2011 12:58 PM CST up reply actions  

I think he's better at a DT.

We spent years converting him (and with Washburn’s tutelage), why would we want to undo all that work?

2012: The year we clip the Hawk.

by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Dec 19, 2011 1:00 PM CST up reply actions  

I liked trying to move him as an experiment, but it hasn't worked.

He was on Titans All Access the other day, and he admitted to Mike Keith that he felt more comfortable inside, and saw himself as an inside guy.

"Do the Titans have a miracle left in them in what has been a magical season to this point? If they do, they need it now. Christie kicks it high and short. Gonna be fielded by Lorenzo Neal at the 25; he dishes it back to Wycheck; he throws it across the field to Dyson. 30, 40, 50, 40, 30, 20, 10, 5, endzone...touchdown, Titans! There are no flags on the field! It's a miracle! Tennessee has pulled a miracle! A miracle for the Titans!"

by TennesseeTyrants on Dec 19, 2011 1:01 PM CST up reply actions  

I´m still puzzled by the d-line performance.

We got bigger DTs, but our run defense has been terrible. And maybe our best pass-rusher is the one small DT on the team (Klug).

"He's an amazing talent. He's probably the most explosive back since Marshall Faulk and Barry Sanders." - Eddie George, about CJ.

by criollo_pcg on Dec 19, 2011 12:58 PM CST up reply actions  

Shaun Smith has disappeared over the season.

I thought he would be our “big guy” but when Marks is starting over you…not good.

Banned from Stampede Blue for comments made on MCM. Yes, I am a champion.

by ronburgundy7427 on Dec 19, 2011 12:59 PM CST up reply actions  

Marks seems to be finally turning a corner.

You have been banned from Stampede Blue.
Calling a site admin a ‘fuhrer’ gets you banned without warning.
The Saint of MCM

by StPrattrick on Dec 19, 2011 12:59 PM CST up reply actions  

I still don´t see that.

"He's an amazing talent. He's probably the most explosive back since Marshall Faulk and Barry Sanders." - Eddie George, about CJ.

by criollo_pcg on Dec 19, 2011 1:00 PM CST up reply actions  

How about this then

We re-sign Ball.
Move JJ back to DT where he made a difference, use him in a rotation with Klug.
Draft another higher round DE (1st-3rd)

Thoughts?

You have been banned from Stampede Blue.
Calling a site admin a ‘fuhrer’ gets you banned without warning.
The Saint of MCM

by StPrattrick on Dec 19, 2011 12:58 PM CST up reply actions  

I want DE first-round honestly.

And maybe even a 3rd round DT. Look at the Giants, if we get a great DL going, that can help the entire defense. And with already solid pieces at CB and LB, we may not necessarily need to go safety early (though we absolutely need an upgrade there too).

Banned from Stampede Blue for comments made on MCM. Yes, I am a champion.

by ronburgundy7427 on Dec 19, 2011 1:00 PM CST up reply actions  

WOuldn´t bother me, but I would still prefer an offensive lineman with that 1st round pick.

"He's an amazing talent. He's probably the most explosive back since Marshall Faulk and Barry Sanders." - Eddie George, about CJ.

by criollo_pcg on Dec 19, 2011 1:03 PM CST up reply actions  

Highly doubt they're doing that.

Based on recent history, they’ll probably sign a FA, keep one of Amano/Harris, and then draft a mid-round guy at the highest.

Banned from Stampede Blue for comments made on MCM. Yes, I am a champion.

by ronburgundy7427 on Dec 19, 2011 1:04 PM CST up reply actions  

I still don't say Safety in the first round, i'd rather grab one in the 3rd round

I’d like us to go for the O-line in the first, but Thor has done more with less before… so maybe a 1st round O-line guy wouldn’t be needed.

You have been banned from Stampede Blue.
Calling a site admin a ‘fuhrer’ gets you banned without warning.
The Saint of MCM

by StPrattrick on Dec 19, 2011 1:04 PM CST up reply actions  

I haven't gone into full-on draft mode yet, but are there any top-flight safeties?

As I said above, just don’t see O-line in first couple rounds, especially interior ones. Unless Reinfeldt wants to completely buck the trend since he’s been here.

Banned from Stampede Blue for comments made on MCM. Yes, I am a champion.

by ronburgundy7427 on Dec 19, 2011 1:05 PM CST up reply actions  

Jommy wants Mark Barron.

It’d be a bit of a reach if we’re picking in the teens though.

2012: The year we clip the Hawk.

by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Dec 19, 2011 1:07 PM CST up reply actions  

There is really 1-2 safeties being considered for the first round

but quite a few going potentially in the 2-3rd round.

You have been banned from Stampede Blue.
Calling a site admin a ‘fuhrer’ gets you banned without warning.
The Saint of MCM

by StPrattrick on Dec 19, 2011 1:07 PM CST up reply actions  

I want a damn everydown defensive lineman who is good

I am sick of this situational crap

Official MCM Hater!

Nate Washington Fanboy

by gramsey712 on Dec 19, 2011 1:06 PM CST up reply actions  

Truth

You have been banned from Stampede Blue.
Calling a site admin a ‘fuhrer’ gets you banned without warning.
The Saint of MCM

by StPrattrick on Dec 19, 2011 1:08 PM CST up reply actions  

I HOPE Morgan can become that on one side.

But moving JJ back inside is probably the right move to make, and ideally you can grab an every-down guy who is also a terror pass rushing.

Banned from Stampede Blue for comments made on MCM. Yes, I am a champion.

by ronburgundy7427 on Dec 19, 2011 1:08 PM CST up reply actions  

Oh man I completely forgot about that.

Thanks Babin! WR, OL, S, DL would be my first four.

2012: The year we clip the Hawk.

by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Dec 19, 2011 1:02 PM CST up reply actions  

samesies.

MCM's Favorite Hawkeye

by rsikes on Dec 19, 2011 1:03 PM CST up reply actions  

All of that

You have been banned from Stampede Blue.
Calling a site admin a ‘fuhrer’ gets you banned without warning.
The Saint of MCM

by StPrattrick on Dec 19, 2011 1:08 PM CST up reply actions  

I like it.

Klug, Casey, JJ at DT is a good rotation. And Marks has improved too. My only concern with going DE high is that we leave other needs unaddressed.

2012: The year we clip the Hawk.

by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Dec 19, 2011 1:01 PM CST up reply actions  

I really don't want another 1st round DE, but I would def. not mind a 2nd round or one of our 2 3rd round picks being use on a DE

You have been banned from Stampede Blue.
Calling a site admin a ‘fuhrer’ gets you banned without warning.
The Saint of MCM

by StPrattrick on Dec 19, 2011 1:09 PM CST up reply actions  

I think if you go WR, OL, S, DE (in that order)

You have a chance to get a 3rd WR, starting guard, starting safety and contributing DE all in two nights work.

2012: The year we clip the Hawk.

by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Dec 19, 2011 1:11 PM CST up reply actions  

You want to get a 3rd WR in the first-round?

I want a starter if we’re going there.

Banned from Stampede Blue for comments made on MCM. Yes, I am a champion.

by ronburgundy7427 on Dec 19, 2011 1:11 PM CST up reply actions  

I can't see whoever we pick beating out Britt and Washington on the depth chart.

Unless you swing someone like Jeffery outside and then Washington back in. Palmer uses a ton of multiple WR sets, so even I’d classify whoever the pick is as a “starter.”

2012: The year we clip the Hawk.

by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Dec 19, 2011 1:15 PM CST up reply actions  

Fair enough.

I don’t know if I want a WR unless Blackmon falls (ha) or Jeffery is there. Floyd scares the hell out of me.

Banned from Stampede Blue for comments made on MCM. Yes, I am a champion.

by ronburgundy7427 on Dec 19, 2011 1:17 PM CST up reply actions  

I would not go with Floyd at all.

Just Jeffery or then I’d look at another position.

2012: The year we clip the Hawk.

by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Dec 19, 2011 1:25 PM CST up reply actions  

Jeffery is suppose to be a Top 10 pick

So, sounds like we’d be looking somewhere else.

You have been banned from Stampede Blue.
Calling a site admin a ‘fuhrer’ gets you banned without warning.
The Saint of MCM

by StPrattrick on Dec 19, 2011 1:26 PM CST up reply actions  

Weight and lack of speed will hurt him.

But yes, if we can’t get him, there is no other WR I would take.

2012: The year we clip the Hawk.

by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Dec 19, 2011 1:30 PM CST up reply actions  

I disagree with going for WR in the first (especially where we would be positioned)

but all I know is we def. need more WR depth, and we can’t rely completely on Britt/Washington anymore.

You have been banned from Stampede Blue.
Calling a site admin a ‘fuhrer’ gets you banned without warning.
The Saint of MCM

by StPrattrick on Dec 19, 2011 1:21 PM CST up reply actions  

Jones is a free agent

And someone will pay him more than we will pay him, which is fine. If he is only good enough for a rotational DT on this team (which, by the way, we already have in Klug), then we shouldn’t pay him big bucks. Another team will. I say he is a goner unless we get him for cheap.

by tdtommyd on Dec 19, 2011 1:29 PM CST up reply actions  

What I ment was re-sign JJ

if he is wanting or getting bigger contract offers, let him walk.

You have been banned from Stampede Blue.
Calling a site admin a ‘fuhrer’ gets you banned without warning.
The Saint of MCM

by StPrattrick on Dec 19, 2011 1:30 PM CST up reply actions  

The players are the ones that set our expectations, here.

I went into this season thinking we would suck, and the players tried to prove me otherwise. So now they should get a pass because they couldn’t keep it up? Why don’t you go tell the players “It’s ok because we all thought you’d blow anyway” and see how it goes.

They set the fanbases expectations, people have a right to be angry about it.

Ain't no time for hesitatin'
All you got to do is groove

Music City Miracles Hall Of Fame, Class of 2010

by BonzosMontreaux on Dec 19, 2011 12:58 PM CST reply actions  

Boom

Right on

Official MCM Hater!

Nate Washington Fanboy

by gramsey712 on Dec 19, 2011 1:00 PM CST up reply actions  

That´s kind of why I´m pissed with Hasselbeck.

"He's an amazing talent. He's probably the most explosive back since Marshall Faulk and Barry Sanders." - Eddie George, about CJ.

by criollo_pcg on Dec 19, 2011 1:03 PM CST up reply actions  

Pratt had one too many after the game yesterday

And luckily his friends got him on film.

Sikes found it on youtube.

Official MCM Hater!

Nate Washington Fanboy

by gramsey712 on Dec 19, 2011 1:21 PM CST reply actions  

This is what happens when you lose like this Titans!

Look at what you’ve made me become!!!

You have been banned from Stampede Blue.
Calling a site admin a ‘fuhrer’ gets you banned without warning.
The Saint of MCM

by StPrattrick on Dec 19, 2011 1:25 PM CST up reply actions  

What belt?

You have been banned from Stampede Blue.
Calling a site admin a ‘fuhrer’ gets you banned without warning.
The Saint of MCM

by StPrattrick on Dec 19, 2011 1:27 PM CST up reply actions  

Devil's Advocate
Obviously there will be plenty of time in the coming weeks and months to talk about an offseason plan, but the point of this rambling post is that this team still has a long way to go before being a legitimate contender. That loss yesterday should serve as an embarrassing reminder of that.

I’d argue that we’re one developed Jake Locker and healthy Kenny Britt away from being a contender. If Locker develops into a top 10 talent, this team will develop into a consistent top 10 team year in and year out.

by SuperHorn on Dec 19, 2011 1:25 PM CST reply actions  

IF Britt can stay healthy and out of trouble.

You have been banned from Stampede Blue.
Calling a site admin a ‘fuhrer’ gets you banned without warning.
The Saint of MCM

by StPrattrick on Dec 19, 2011 1:26 PM CST up reply actions  

I think if we can give him another WR and a guard or two,

this team will be a contender, regardless of what happens with the defense.

2012: The year we clip the Hawk.

by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Dec 19, 2011 1:26 PM CST up reply actions  

Still would like some defensive upgrades.

The whole “defense wins championships”…or maybe the years of Fisher here and all the defensive last-second wins have made me that way.

But I do agree…better depth at WR and an upgraded interior line and our offense could be on well on its way to something special.

Banned from Stampede Blue for comments made on MCM. Yes, I am a champion.

by ronburgundy7427 on Dec 19, 2011 1:28 PM CST up reply actions  

the defense is really just a pass rusher or two from being good enough to win it all

the run d will get better as our LBs and DTs mature a little. but this has to be our worst season ever from a pass rush standpoint

Pearl for Life.
I hate football.

by hal41605 on Dec 19, 2011 1:30 PM CST up reply actions  

Agreed

Our biggest weakness heading into 2012. Well, that and nobody on the interior O line can runblock.

by tdtommyd on Dec 19, 2011 1:31 PM CST up reply actions  

Our offense is close to being that.

Not at all.

You have been banned from Stampede Blue.
Calling a site admin a ‘fuhrer’ gets you banned without warning.
The Saint of MCM

by StPrattrick on Dec 19, 2011 1:31 PM CST up reply actions  

Really?

I think this offense can be downright explosive with Locker, Britt and maybe CJ if he pulls his head out his ass.

2012: The year we clip the Hawk.

by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Dec 19, 2011 1:33 PM CST up reply actions  

Outside of Locker, I am not so sure about anything anymore.

You have been banned from Stampede Blue.
Calling a site admin a ‘fuhrer’ gets you banned without warning.
The Saint of MCM

by StPrattrick on Dec 19, 2011 1:38 PM CST up reply actions  

I think we have a lot of talent, but nothing to put it in motion

and the problems we do have on offense are affecting/overshadowing the talent we do have.

You have been banned from Stampede Blue.
Calling a site admin a ‘fuhrer’ gets you banned without warning.
The Saint of MCM

by StPrattrick on Dec 19, 2011 1:42 PM CST up reply actions  

yeah

our early season numbers skew that a bunch

Pearl for Life.
I hate football.

by hal41605 on Dec 19, 2011 1:33 PM CST up reply actions  

This all depends on Locker's development.

If he develops rapidly, this team could absolutely be a top 10 team by 2013. Using the most dramatic of examples, look at the Colts in the 2 years following his rookie year. There are countless others that follow a similar trend, though.

by SuperHorn on Dec 19, 2011 1:37 PM CST up reply actions  

Or the Colts after Manning's rookie year...

From 3-13 to 13-3 and divisional champs. Until the Titan train came along…I miss those days.

Banned from Stampede Blue for comments made on MCM. Yes, I am a champion.

by ronburgundy7427 on Dec 19, 2011 1:38 PM CST up reply actions  

But we've realized we have a pretty serious issue with dept at WR

Steven’s is our only capable every-down TE
Our O-line is a dumpsterfire
Our RBs are not who we thought they were.

I am worried.

You have been banned from Stampede Blue.
Calling a site admin a ‘fuhrer’ gets you banned without warning.
The Saint of MCM

by StPrattrick on Dec 19, 2011 1:39 PM CST up reply actions  

Meh.

I get that, but you need to consider just how dramatically a QB can influence the play of those around him. Sticking with the Manning example, look at Harrison’s numbers in the 2 years prior to Manning + his rookie year. Then, look at the years that followed. He went from pedestrian to HOF caliber.

by SuperHorn on Dec 19, 2011 1:42 PM CST up reply actions  

I agree, and Locker seems to add that spark that ignites our offense

but holy crap we are starting to scrape the bottom of the barrel

You have been banned from Stampede Blue.
Calling a site admin a ‘fuhrer’ gets you banned without warning.
The Saint of MCM

by StPrattrick on Dec 19, 2011 1:43 PM CST up reply actions  

We need to put Locker in better position to win with the team

not MAKE him win with receivers that probably wouldn’t make other teams practice squads (in Hawk’s defense, he did actually show up yesterday… )

You have been banned from Stampede Blue.
Calling a site admin a ‘fuhrer’ gets you banned without warning.
The Saint of MCM

by StPrattrick on Dec 19, 2011 1:46 PM CST up reply actions  

Add G + WR

Then we sit back and watch.

2012: The year we clip the Hawk.

by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Dec 19, 2011 1:47 PM CST up reply actions  

Center that doesn't fall into a runningback?

You have been banned from Stampede Blue.
Calling a site admin a ‘fuhrer’ gets you banned without warning.
The Saint of MCM

by StPrattrick on Dec 19, 2011 1:48 PM CST up reply actions  

That too.

I think if we could improve the players around the C though, we could minimize or hide him effectively.

2012: The year we clip the Hawk.

by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Dec 19, 2011 1:49 PM CST up reply actions  

Or...sign Jeff Saturday and move Amano back to guard!!!1

I don’t even know if Saturday is a FA or not, but I’m liking the idea of getting him more and more if he is.

Banned from Stampede Blue for comments made on MCM. Yes, I am a champion.

by ronburgundy7427 on Dec 19, 2011 1:50 PM CST up reply actions  

I'd take some Saturday at C for us.

Shit literally anyone at center.

I hate football.

You have been banned from Stampede Blue.
Calling a site admin a ‘fuhrer’ gets you banned without warning.
The Saint of MCM

by StPrattrick on Dec 19, 2011 1:51 PM CST up reply actions  

I like him, only concern would be age/deterioration.

I find it hard to evaluate the Colts line because Manning hid a lot of their issues, too.

2012: The year we clip the Hawk.

by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Dec 19, 2011 1:53 PM CST up reply actions  

He's still a really good center

and we’d be doing the same thing we did with Mawae. We would just HAVE to find a replacement at the end of his contract. I am looking for immediate impact, not long term project.

You have been banned from Stampede Blue.
Calling a site admin a ‘fuhrer’ gets you banned without warning.
The Saint of MCM

by StPrattrick on Dec 19, 2011 1:54 PM CST up reply actions  

The Mawae comparison is good.

It suddenly makes me want Saturday more. Maybe he can be a stopgap for us to groom a C.

2012: The year we clip the Hawk.

by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Dec 19, 2011 1:55 PM CST up reply actions  

Instead of moving a shitty guard into an unnatural position throwing a ton of money at him

and calling it a center.

You have been banned from Stampede Blue.
Calling a site admin a ‘fuhrer’ gets you banned without warning.
The Saint of MCM

by StPrattrick on Dec 19, 2011 1:56 PM CST up reply actions  

That's why I want Saturday.

The Mawae veteran factor. Normally I’d rather go young, but having a veteran anchor for that line I think would be a huge help, and then that’s one less interior line spot to worry about fixing.

Banned from Stampede Blue for comments made on MCM. Yes, I am a champion.

by ronburgundy7427 on Dec 19, 2011 1:58 PM CST up reply actions  

I hate that we are supposed to be guilted in to all this...

we are a frekin game out of the playoffs. Stop with the rebuilding talk, and get on with tie breakers and beating the kitty cats or whatever ya ll like to call em

by titanfannyc on Dec 19, 2011 2:10 PM CST up reply actions  

jimmy

For the first time in a long time- I completely disagree with you regarding Cortland. You need to think about things from his perspective- he is a recent husband, and a brand new father- he needs what we all want- job security. Cortland is one of the few titans over the past 4 years that I have had complete confidence in every time he buckles his chin strap. McCourty is not a pro bowler- and although we all love ATV- he’s not as good as Jmac. Cortland is a must sign for this team. End of story.

by Hentrich is my Homeboy on Dec 19, 2011 1:31 PM CST via iPhone app reply actions  

End of story guys.

Shut up now.

You have been banned from Stampede Blue.
Calling a site admin a ‘fuhrer’ gets you banned without warning.
The Saint of MCM

by StPrattrick on Dec 19, 2011 1:32 PM CST up reply actions  

We need guys who can get ready to play football

Not worry about job security.

You get ready to play, you are will have job security.

Official MCM Hater!

Nate Washington Fanboy

by gramsey712 on Dec 19, 2011 1:32 PM CST up reply actions  

false

he’s our best CB still by far, and he ain’t getting re-signed

Pearl for Life.
I hate football.

by hal41605 on Dec 19, 2011 1:33 PM CST up reply actions  

Good riddance

I won’t miss him.

Lot of good our best CB did yesterday.

Official MCM Hater!

Nate Washington Fanboy

by gramsey712 on Dec 19, 2011 1:34 PM CST up reply actions  

wtf did he do wrong?

Pearl for Life.
I hate football.

by hal41605 on Dec 19, 2011 1:36 PM CST up reply actions  

Didn't show up

Same thing the rest of the team did

Official MCM Hater!

Nate Washington Fanboy

by gramsey712 on Dec 19, 2011 1:38 PM CST up reply actions  

no see

its a good thing when a DB doesn’t “show up” on tv. what, you want him to hog the limelight like griffin? name one play finnegan blew.

Pearl for Life.
I hate football.

by hal41605 on Dec 19, 2011 1:40 PM CST up reply actions  

^cop out

Pearl for Life.
I hate football.

by hal41605 on Dec 19, 2011 1:42 PM CST up reply actions  

So you really don't think that Finnegan should be held accountable for his role as a "leader" of this team?

If not, why pay him? We can find a cheaper nickelback and spend that money on defensive line

Official MCM Hater!

Nate Washington Fanboy

by gramsey712 on Dec 19, 2011 1:43 PM CST up reply actions  

jerry G

The only reason we have him at nickel is because our d coordinator likes the blitz packages and the way it allows Cort to line up against the slot receiver- the titans nemesis. Alas- this is the same d cord who started b ruud all that time. Bottom line- we will only get worse without him on the field. That’s a promise.

by Hentrich is my Homeboy on Dec 19, 2011 1:48 PM CST via iPhone app up reply actions  

Don't get much worse than yesterday Homeboy

That’s a promise.

Official MCM Hater!

Nate Washington Fanboy

by gramsey712 on Dec 19, 2011 1:49 PM CST up reply actions  

We just lost to the win-less Colts

You have been banned from Stampede Blue.
Calling a site admin a ‘fuhrer’ gets you banned without warning.
The Saint of MCM

by StPrattrick on Dec 19, 2011 1:49 PM CST up reply actions  

hass

Played worse than Dan orlovsky- you can’t win a game if you literally can’t pass the ball- end of the day I love y’all- we’re still titans nation… I’m at the beau rivage in Biloxi. Off to grab my ankles some more. See ya Sunday.

by Hentrich is my Homeboy on Dec 19, 2011 1:54 PM CST via iPhone app up reply actions  

all the rah rah stuff leaves me numb

either you perform like a pro or you dont. finnegan was not one of the many people who were obviously sucking.

Pearl for Life.
I hate football.

by hal41605 on Dec 19, 2011 2:08 PM CST up reply actions  

Of course, you also don't think CJ is a quitter either

So I am not sure how we are going to resolve this

Official MCM Hater!

Nate Washington Fanboy

by gramsey712 on Dec 19, 2011 1:44 PM CST up reply actions  

yep

quit his way to 110 total yards. i wish everyone else quit like him.

Pearl for Life.
I hate football.

by hal41605 on Dec 19, 2011 2:09 PM CST up reply actions  

The Horned One:
Seriously? Before that huge run off the draw play, CJ was averaging 1.33 YPC.

Cj’s production was horrific this past game. The 19 yard catch and 35 yard draw play really skew the data. He couldn’t do shit for the majority of the game and played a huge role in killing drives before they even started with his incessant stubbornness in stretching runs to the edge even if they are designed inside zone plays.

Despite these two outliers, CJ only managed 4.73 yards per touch.

2012: The year we clip the Hawk.

by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Dec 19, 2011 2:12 PM CST up reply actions  

1.33 yards per carry

I wish everyone quit like him.

Official MCM Hater!

Nate Washington Fanboy

by gramsey712 on Dec 19, 2011 2:12 PM CST up reply actions  

I don't

You have been banned from Stampede Blue.
Calling a site admin a ‘fuhrer’ gets you banned without warning.
The Saint of MCM

by StPrattrick on Dec 19, 2011 2:15 PM CST up reply actions  

The problem is we don´t have a better RB.. as for the QB, we have a better one on the bench.

"He's an amazing talent. He's probably the most explosive back since Marshall Faulk and Barry Sanders." - Eddie George, about CJ.

by criollo_pcg on Dec 19, 2011 2:17 PM CST up reply actions  

I heard this Harper kid is something special...

You have been banned from Stampede Blue.
Calling a site admin a ‘fuhrer’ gets you banned without warning.
The Saint of MCM

by StPrattrick on Dec 19, 2011 2:18 PM CST up reply actions  

It was disappointing he didn't at least get a shot.

Not that he would have been better, but seriously, Palmer’s just gotta look at him and say “Don’t go backwards, that’s an upgrade.”

2012: The year we clip the Hawk.

by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Dec 19, 2011 2:19 PM CST up reply actions  

I really wanted to see more from him

You have been banned from Stampede Blue.
Calling a site admin a ‘fuhrer’ gets you banned without warning.
The Saint of MCM

by StPrattrick on Dec 19, 2011 2:21 PM CST up reply actions  

He´s not a power back, not a speed back, not a threat in the pass game..

Is he a new breed of running back??

"He's an amazing talent. He's probably the most explosive back since Marshall Faulk and Barry Sanders." - Eddie George, about CJ.

by criollo_pcg on Dec 19, 2011 2:19 PM CST up reply actions  

MEGABACK

You have been banned from Stampede Blue.
Calling a site admin a ‘fuhrer’ gets you banned without warning.
The Saint of MCM

by StPrattrick on Dec 19, 2011 2:21 PM CST up reply actions  

Fixed:

The problem is we don´t have a better RB.. as for the QB, we think we have a better one on the bench.

Official MCM Hater!

Nate Washington Fanboy

by gramsey712 on Dec 19, 2011 2:20 PM CST up reply actions  

bullshit

yesterday, there was zero question. i’d give rusty a shot before i put hass back out there in that condition.

Pearl for Life.
I hate football.

by hal41605 on Dec 19, 2011 2:21 PM CST up reply actions  

wtf do you expect?

no RB in the league can break Amano’s tackles. dude is a force in the backfield.

Pearl for Life.
I hate football.

by hal41605 on Dec 19, 2011 2:20 PM CST up reply actions  

Uh. I expect more than 1.33 YPC.

Is this a joke? There’s no excuse to be made here. Watch Philadelphia if you want a case study in how a back is supposed to run with shitty run blocking.

by SuperHorn on Dec 19, 2011 2:24 PM CST up reply actions  

it was a joke

but for real, keep force feeding CJ on the same slow developing stretch runs with terrible blocking, and that’s what happens. Philly is light years ahead of us in terms of diversity of run plays and how they use their RB, even if their execution is similarly bad.

not only are we terrible blockers, but we are terrible blockers running painfully predictable plays. perfect storm of failure.

Pearl for Life.
I hate football.

by hal41605 on Dec 19, 2011 2:33 PM CST up reply actions  

There is absolutely no question that the playcalling is a culprit here.

But, elite RB’s don’t average less than 1.5 YPC for 3.75 quarters against one of the worst defenses in the NFL. It just doesn’t happen. He’s looking for a homerun on every play instead of taking what the defense is giving him.

It would be one thing if this was an anomaly, but this has been going on all year. I can’t place my finger on it, but something’s not right here. He doesn’t seem nearly as interested anymore. That’s totally subjective, so take it FWIW.

by SuperHorn on Dec 19, 2011 2:37 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

And that would have nothing to do with the play calling (which everyone lambasted)

Or the fact that he constantly got 2 yard passes from Hasselbeck, now would it?

Ain't no time for hesitatin'
All you got to do is groove

Music City Miracles Hall Of Fame, Class of 2010

by BonzosMontreaux on Dec 19, 2011 2:13 PM CST up reply actions  

I said this in the gamethread

but CJ is responsible for what he can control. Running backwards is something he can control, and he did a helluva lot of it last game. You can blame the line and playcalling for not opening big holes, or not even opening any, but I can guarantee no one told him to run backwards.

2012: The year we clip the Hawk.

by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Dec 19, 2011 2:15 PM CST up reply actions  

Sorry, but you can't give Hasselbeck a full pass cause of playcalling

And then turn around and say CJ is a terrible quitter, and playcalling had nothing to do with it.

Ain't no time for hesitatin'
All you got to do is groove

Music City Miracles Hall Of Fame, Class of 2010

by BonzosMontreaux on Dec 19, 2011 2:16 PM CST up reply actions  

Hasselbeck didn't quit.

You have been banned from Stampede Blue.
Calling a site admin a ‘fuhrer’ gets you banned without warning.
The Saint of MCM

by StPrattrick on Dec 19, 2011 2:17 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm sorry, did CJ start refusing to take handoffs?

Refuse to keep running dinky useless routes? No? Then how did he quit?

Ain't no time for hesitatin'
All you got to do is groove

Music City Miracles Hall Of Fame, Class of 2010

by BonzosMontreaux on Dec 19, 2011 2:18 PM CST up reply actions  

Refuse to keep running dinky useless routes?

- yes, pick6 that could have been easily broken up.

You have been banned from Stampede Blue.
Calling a site admin a ‘fuhrer’ gets you banned without warning.
The Saint of MCM

by StPrattrick on Dec 19, 2011 2:19 PM CST up reply actions  

It really was though.

Banned from Stampede Blue for comments made on MCM. Yes, I am a champion.

by ronburgundy7427 on Dec 19, 2011 2:20 PM CST up reply actions  

What´s your problem with Locker?

Are you so afraid he´s going to turn out a lunatic like Young? Because really it makes no sense to want a limping QB instead of a promising rookie.

"He's an amazing talent. He's probably the most explosive back since Marshall Faulk and Barry Sanders." - Eddie George, about CJ.

by criollo_pcg on Dec 19, 2011 2:24 PM CST up reply actions  

Are you so afraid he´s going to turn out a lunatic like Young?

>>YES<< are you f-ing kidding me?!

You have been banned from Stampede Blue.
Calling a site admin a ‘fuhrer’ gets you banned without warning.
The Saint of MCM

by StPrattrick on Dec 19, 2011 2:25 PM CST up reply actions  

I second this

You have been banned from Stampede Blue.
Calling a site admin a ‘fuhrer’ gets you banned without warning.
The Saint of MCM

by StPrattrick on Dec 19, 2011 2:26 PM CST up reply actions  

I don't have any problem with Locker

I have a problem with our whole team laying down yesterday and everybody blaming it on Hasselbeck.

Official MCM Hater!

Nate Washington Fanboy

by gramsey712 on Dec 19, 2011 2:25 PM CST up reply actions   3 recs

*This

You have been banned from Stampede Blue.
Calling a site admin a ‘fuhrer’ gets you banned without warning.
The Saint of MCM

by StPrattrick on Dec 19, 2011 2:26 PM CST up reply actions  

Matter of fact, it's Locker time now.

If Munchak doesn’t start him this week, he’ll lose me too.

Official MCM Hater!

Nate Washington Fanboy

by gramsey712 on Dec 19, 2011 2:26 PM CST up reply actions  

I don't think anybody is saying the whole loss is Hasselbecks fault.

But he is where our offense starts, and he was god awful yesterday.

Ain't no time for hesitatin'
All you got to do is groove

Music City Miracles Hall Of Fame, Class of 2010

by BonzosMontreaux on Dec 19, 2011 2:26 PM CST up reply actions  

^ THIS.

Gramsey’s comment just to be clear, not sure where this will show up.

Banned from Stampede Blue for comments made on MCM. Yes, I am a champion.

by ronburgundy7427 on Dec 19, 2011 2:26 PM CST up reply actions  

TWSS!!!!!!!!

Official MCM Hater!

Nate Washington Fanboy

by gramsey712 on Dec 19, 2011 2:27 PM CST up reply actions  

Party foul, can't call TWSS on yourself!

Banned from Stampede Blue for comments made on MCM. Yes, I am a champion.

by ronburgundy7427 on Dec 19, 2011 2:28 PM CST up reply actions  

GoldenGrams is fishing for attention

You have been banned from Stampede Blue.
Calling a site admin a ‘fuhrer’ gets you banned without warning.
The Saint of MCM

by StPrattrick on Dec 19, 2011 2:28 PM CST up reply actions  

Just how you like it

You have been banned from Stampede Blue.
Calling a site admin a ‘fuhrer’ gets you banned without warning.
The Saint of MCM

by StPrattrick on Dec 19, 2011 2:27 PM CST up reply actions  

TWSS.

Banned from Stampede Blue for comments made on MCM. Yes, I am a champion.

by ronburgundy7427 on Dec 19, 2011 2:27 PM CST up reply actions  

nice straw man there

Pearl for Life.
I hate football.

by hal41605 on Dec 19, 2011 2:33 PM CST up reply actions  

What did that have to do with CJ giving up on the route?

and not making a play for the ball? and not breaking up the intercepted ball that all he literally had to do was run into the guy?

You have been banned from Stampede Blue.
Calling a site admin a ‘fuhrer’ gets you banned without warning.
The Saint of MCM

by StPrattrick on Dec 19, 2011 2:23 PM CST up reply actions  

All from right before the point that it entered the CBs hands

I would agree with you

You have been banned from Stampede Blue.
Calling a site admin a ‘fuhrer’ gets you banned without warning.
The Saint of MCM

by StPrattrick on Dec 19, 2011 2:20 PM CST up reply actions  

lol

wish he had quit

Pearl for Life.
I hate football.

by hal41605 on Dec 19, 2011 2:22 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm not giving Hasselbeck a pass.

I didn’t even mention Hasselbeck, so….

2012: The year we clip the Hawk.

by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Dec 19, 2011 2:17 PM CST up reply actions  

I haven't seen anybody give Hasselbeck a pass

But I have seen plenty say Locker would have fixed everything.

Neither are true.

Official MCM Hater!

Nate Washington Fanboy

by gramsey712 on Dec 19, 2011 2:18 PM CST up reply actions  

That's fine, I guess.

But, just throwing around things gross totals like “110 total yards” is exceptionally misleading. For all our discussions about context, I’m certain I don’t have to explain this to you.

Moreover, he gets plenty of blame on his own for constantly fucking stretching out runs. Ugh. I don’t know how he can “make his reads” and “do what he does” with his head so far up his ass. It was painful watching him try to run the football yesterday.

by SuperHorn on Dec 19, 2011 2:17 PM CST up reply actions  

Good riddance?

This is a two way street. Many guys would hold out, yet Cortland manned up and played a full season. Not only that, he played at an exceptionally high level. How did job security work out for Matt Forte?

Sure, Cortland has been vocal lately, but he’s still playing the games. He’s not holding out like CJ.

Cortland is one of the handful of players I’m proud to call a Titan. Not only for the way he plays on the field, but also the way he handles himself off the field.

by SuperHorn on Dec 19, 2011 1:47 PM CST up reply actions  

I would like him a whole lot better if he had spent time getting his teammates ready to play

Instead of worrying about paying his bills.

Good riddance.

Official MCM Hater!

Nate Washington Fanboy

by gramsey712 on Dec 19, 2011 1:48 PM CST up reply actions  

The guy was just being honest.

I didn’t see any harm in the comments.

by SuperHorn on Dec 19, 2011 1:58 PM CST up reply actions  

Whatever.

I just want some fucking player on this defense to step up and have some balls and lead.

I guess I am just pissed cause I thought Finnegan would be that guy this year.

I was wrong.

Official MCM Hater!

Nate Washington Fanboy

by gramsey712 on Dec 19, 2011 2:00 PM CST up reply actions  

so nate washington is a great leader??

even though the offense was infinitely worse than the defense yesterday? (except for maybe griffin, who blows hard)
show up, play hard, do your job. finnegan seems to do that week in and week out. just like CJ, i wish way more of our guys had all of finnegan’s faults i guess.

Pearl for Life.
I hate football.

by hal41605 on Dec 19, 2011 2:13 PM CST up reply actions  

"just like CJ, i wish way more of our guys had all of finnegan’s faults i guess."

You have officially lost me with this

Official MCM Hater!

Nate Washington Fanboy

by gramsey712 on Dec 19, 2011 2:15 PM CST up reply actions  

you have a roster full of slapdicks

who don’t do jack shit, but you pile on two of the guys who actually fucking accomplished something resembling “football” yesterday.

not the young DTs and LBs who sucked against the run, and basically did nothing positive outside of a forced fumble.
not the non-existent DEs who haven’t done shit all year.
not griffin for shitting all over himself on 2 TDs
not hasselbeck for being dreadful.
not damian williams for dropping first downs.
not the shitty o-line for generally ruining everything, as they almost always do.
not palmer/munchak for their disastrous coaching.

just the guys who actually had a little success to go with all the suck and fail. dumb. if nate is such a great leader, why did his side of the ball blow so hard?

Pearl for Life.
I hate football.

by hal41605 on Dec 19, 2011 2:30 PM CST up reply actions  

Again, because we are paying that one dude the salary of all of those players combined,

because he is suppose to be that player that can make those plays and win these games.

You have been banned from Stampede Blue.
Calling a site admin a ‘fuhrer’ gets you banned without warning.
The Saint of MCM

by StPrattrick on Dec 19, 2011 2:32 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

well thats just fucking stupid

no single player does it alone. maybe you were expecting Tebus?

Pearl for Life.
I hate football.

by hal41605 on Dec 19, 2011 2:34 PM CST up reply actions  

Why did we pay him all that money then?

because we were expecting everyone else to do their job to perfection so he could be relevant again?

You have been banned from Stampede Blue.
Calling a site admin a ‘fuhrer’ gets you banned without warning.
The Saint of MCM

by StPrattrick on Dec 19, 2011 2:35 PM CST up reply actions  

What do you want him to do, though?

Turn into Casper and phase through the 4-5 defenders that swarm him on almost every down?

[disclaimer: this poster has no idea what the hell he's talking about.]

The future is bright for this Titans squad.

The Official MCM Idiot

by fanoftheunderdogs on Dec 19, 2011 2:41 PM CST up reply actions  

Not run backwards.

That’s what I want him to do.

2012: The year we clip the Hawk.

by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Dec 19, 2011 2:42 PM CST up reply actions  

Catch a f-ing football that hits him in the hands

instead of being b-slapped away from the ball

//pick-6’d

You have been banned from Stampede Blue.
Calling a site admin a ‘fuhrer’ gets you banned without warning.
The Saint of MCM

by StPrattrick on Dec 19, 2011 2:42 PM CST up reply actions  

When the Bills tried throwing it to CJ Spiller a few weeks ago

I laughed at the TV and kept saying “He’s not a wide receiver, Bills! He’s a runningback. Stop throwing to him!”

I think the same thing applies here.

[disclaimer: this poster has no idea what the hell he's talking about.]

The future is bright for this Titans squad.

The Official MCM Idiot

by fanoftheunderdogs on Dec 19, 2011 2:43 PM CST up reply actions  

CJ Spiller is also not the second highest paid "playmaker" in the league

and part of his responsibilities is catching a football.
Aside from that CJ Spiller sucks in general.

You have been banned from Stampede Blue.
Calling a site admin a ‘fuhrer’ gets you banned without warning.
The Saint of MCM

by StPrattrick on Dec 19, 2011 2:45 PM CST up reply actions  

Our CJ hasn't made his career on catching the football, though.

Paying him the big money contract doesn’t magically make him better at that. It just means we can chew him out for not being good at it.

[disclaimer: this poster has no idea what the hell he's talking about.]

The future is bright for this Titans squad.

The Official MCM Idiot

by fanoftheunderdogs on Dec 19, 2011 2:54 PM CST up reply actions  

He was our leading receiver 2 years ago

our second highest receiver last year… sooooo…
awkward.

You have been banned from Stampede Blue.
Calling a site admin a ‘fuhrer’ gets you banned without warning.
The Saint of MCM

by StPrattrick on Dec 19, 2011 3:03 PM CST up reply actions  

(in receptions)

You have been banned from Stampede Blue.
Calling a site admin a ‘fuhrer’ gets you banned without warning.
The Saint of MCM

by StPrattrick on Dec 19, 2011 3:06 PM CST up reply actions  

Have you watched the Philadelphia Eagles this year?

How about the St. Louis Rams? Atlanta Falcons? Chicago Bears?

All these teams have poor run blocking units, yet they still manage decent (and in some cases great) run games.

by SuperHorn on Dec 19, 2011 2:46 PM CST up reply actions  

Difference:

They have poor run blocking units. We have EUGENE AMANO and LEROY HARRIS.

[disclaimer: this poster has no idea what the hell he's talking about.]

The future is bright for this Titans squad.

The Official MCM Idiot

by fanoftheunderdogs on Dec 19, 2011 2:50 PM CST up reply actions  

We had them last year, too.

Cj’s a different runner this year.

by SuperHorn on Dec 19, 2011 2:53 PM CST up reply actions  

And how many times did CJ get tackled by his own O-lineman last year

compared to this year?

[disclaimer: this poster has no idea what the hell he's talking about.]

The future is bright for this Titans squad.

The Official MCM Idiot

by fanoftheunderdogs on Dec 19, 2011 2:55 PM CST up reply actions  

CJ hasn't gotten "tackled by his own O-linemen" enough to have a meaningful impact on his YPC.

It’s not as simple as “the O-line sucks” so CJ gets a pass. Both suck.

CJ’s lack of decisiveness in the hole, or really anytime he touched the ball yesterday, was a real problem. If making excuses helps you cope with the pain, then that’s fine.

Our reality is that an above average, traditional back could produce average-above average numbers in this offense. Fight it all you want, but it’s the truth.

by SuperHorn on Dec 19, 2011 3:06 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

What was Amano and Harris going to do when the ball hit CJ in the hands

and it was ripped out of his digits resulting in a pick6?
We’ve already seen what happens when Harris tries to get involved in the passing game…
///SoManyPenalties

You have been banned from Stampede Blue.
Calling a site admin a ‘fuhrer’ gets you banned without warning.
The Saint of MCM

by StPrattrick on Dec 19, 2011 2:54 PM CST up reply actions  

What was CJ going to do? Rewind time so he knew the guy was coming at him?

The reason that happened in the first place was because we had an injured QB that could barely throw the ball resulting in an offense that did checkdowns all day, making that pass to CJ that got pick-6’d predictable as all hell.

[disclaimer: this poster has no idea what the hell he's talking about.]

The future is bright for this Titans squad.

The Official MCM Idiot

by fanoftheunderdogs on Dec 19, 2011 2:57 PM CST up reply actions  

YOU STILL BREAK UP THE F-ING PASS!!!!!11

literally all he had to do was run into the guy.
And yes he knew he was there, because 1 second earlier he tried to “juke” him out and run the inside slant.

You have been banned from Stampede Blue.
Calling a site admin a ‘fuhrer’ gets you banned without warning.
The Saint of MCM

by StPrattrick on Dec 19, 2011 3:04 PM CST up reply actions  

And if he couldn't break up the pass...

why wasn’t the fastest man in the NFL chasing him from behind at least trying to save a TD.

The Force is with you, young SkyLocker, but you are not a Jedi... yet!

by J3G77 on Dec 19, 2011 3:19 PM CST up reply actions  

= Quitter.

You have been banned from Stampede Blue.
Calling a site admin a ‘fuhrer’ gets you banned without warning.
The Saint of MCM

by StPrattrick on Dec 19, 2011 3:21 PM CST up reply actions  

I was expecting at least average production

I was expecting a hell of a lot more then that.

You have been banned from Stampede Blue.
Calling a site admin a ‘fuhrer’ gets you banned without warning.
The Saint of MCM

by StPrattrick on Dec 19, 2011 2:41 PM CST up reply actions  

you lost perspective, becuase all of them are well paid.

"He's an amazing talent. He's probably the most explosive back since Marshall Faulk and Barry Sanders." - Eddie George, about CJ.

by criollo_pcg on Dec 19, 2011 2:35 PM CST up reply actions  

Well, isn't this a load of pessimistic exaggeration on your part.....

You’re making it sound like we’re the 0-16 Detroit Lions.

[disclaimer: this poster has no idea what the hell he's talking about.]

The future is bright for this Titans squad.

The Official MCM Idiot

by fanoftheunderdogs on Dec 19, 2011 2:36 PM CST up reply actions  

It's DramaticHal being dramatic

You have been banned from Stampede Blue.
Calling a site admin a ‘fuhrer’ gets you banned without warning.
The Saint of MCM

by StPrattrick on Dec 19, 2011 2:37 PM CST up reply actions  

Hal + B/R = DramaticHal

Sounds about right.

[disclaimer: this poster has no idea what the hell he's talking about.]

The future is bright for this Titans squad.

The Official MCM Idiot

by fanoftheunderdogs on Dec 19, 2011 2:39 PM CST up reply actions  

answer the question douchebag

which of those things didnt happen yesterday?

Pearl for Life.
I hate football.

by hal41605 on Dec 19, 2011 2:40 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm a douchebag because I dare defy the almighty dramatic hal?

Nice composure, man.

[disclaimer: this poster has no idea what the hell he's talking about.]

The future is bright for this Titans squad.

The Official MCM Idiot

by fanoftheunderdogs on Dec 19, 2011 2:42 PM CST up reply actions  

no

you’re a douchebag because you obviously can’t read. i was talking about yesterday. that’s it. don’t blame me cuz you can’t read.

Pearl for Life.
I hate football.

by hal41605 on Dec 19, 2011 2:43 PM CST up reply actions  

ahhhhh here we go.

You have been banned from Stampede Blue.
Calling a site admin a ‘fuhrer’ gets you banned without warning.
The Saint of MCM

by StPrattrick on Dec 19, 2011 2:43 PM CST up reply actions  

/denied

[disclaimer: this poster has no idea what the hell he's talking about.]

The future is bright for this Titans squad.

The Official MCM Idiot

by fanoftheunderdogs on Dec 19, 2011 6:20 PM CST up reply actions  

You're right. Damn. You got me.

I can’t read. I’m having a robot repeat what’s on the screen to me vocally.

I never learned to read. :(

[disclaimer: this poster has no idea what the hell he's talking about.]

The future is bright for this Titans squad.

The Official MCM Idiot

by fanoftheunderdogs on Dec 19, 2011 2:45 PM CST up reply actions  

we would have lost to them yesterday

all of those things happened yesterday, feel free to point out which ones you dispute

Pearl for Life.
I hate football.

by hal41605 on Dec 19, 2011 2:39 PM CST up reply actions  

we lost to the 0-16 detroit lions´ QB.

"He's an amazing talent. He's probably the most explosive back since Marshall Faulk and Barry Sanders." - Eddie George, about CJ.

by criollo_pcg on Dec 19, 2011 2:40 PM CST up reply actions  

I dispute you judging our entire team on one game's shitty performance.

Because you weren’t saying this shit after they played their hearts out against the Saints.

[disclaimer: this poster has no idea what the hell he's talking about.]

The future is bright for this Titans squad.

The Official MCM Idiot

by fanoftheunderdogs on Dec 19, 2011 2:40 PM CST up reply actions  

Reading comprehension, really?

And what does Caturday have to do with anything?

[disclaimer: this poster has no idea what the hell he's talking about.]

The future is bright for this Titans squad.

The Official MCM Idiot

by fanoftheunderdogs on Dec 19, 2011 2:42 PM CST up reply actions  

...

you’ve officially lost me

Pearl for Life.
I hate football.

by hal41605 on Dec 19, 2011 2:44 PM CST up reply actions  

there is a lot of that going around

You have been banned from Stampede Blue.
Calling a site admin a ‘fuhrer’ gets you banned without warning.
The Saint of MCM

by StPrattrick on Dec 19, 2011 2:45 PM CST up reply actions  

Was making a joke about reading comprehension

by reading “yesterday” as “caturday”.

Sorry, need to remember that you don’t have a sense of humor.

[disclaimer: this poster has no idea what the hell he's talking about.]

The future is bright for this Titans squad.

The Official MCM Idiot

by fanoftheunderdogs on Dec 19, 2011 2:46 PM CST up reply actions  

Actually I have called out all of that in various spots on MCM since the game ended

And I also added Tommie “why is he still on the team” Campbell.

You just keep trying to convince us that Chris Johnson played well yesterday, and Finnegan decided to let us know he is worried about paying his bills instead of getting ready to play a football game.

Official MCM Hater!

Nate Washington Fanboy

by gramsey712 on Dec 19, 2011 3:27 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

I like it how I am so mad I can't even type

I are will might maybe learn how

Official MCM Hater!

Nate Washington Fanboy

by gramsey712 on Dec 19, 2011 1:36 PM CST up reply actions  

So everyone is to blame?

Thanks for clearing that up. Sounds like Head Coach speak to me.

Munchak is to blame for sticking with a dead, limp, injured Hasslebeck who couldn’t throw because of his calf; only Palmer deserves more blame for his now habitually inane play-calling.

I refuse to spread the blame equally when it is so apparent what (who) the problems were.

Mike Munchak needs to be a one-year experiment; and Hasslebeck, too.

A good coach puts the win and the playoffs above loyalty to any one player.

by The Jade Scorpion on Dec 19, 2011 1:33 PM CST reply actions  

Right back at ya, again.

Mike Munchak needs to be a one-year experiment; and Hasslebeck, too.

A good coach puts the win and the playoffs above loyalty to any one player.

by The Jade Scorpion on Dec 19, 2011 1:38 PM CST up reply actions  

If only you were as creative with your replies

as you are dissing our team.

[disclaimer: this poster has no idea what the hell he's talking about.]

The future is bright for this Titans squad.

The Official MCM Idiot

by fanoftheunderdogs on Dec 19, 2011 6:21 PM CST up reply actions  

Right back at ya!

Mike Munchak needs to be a one-year experiment; and Hasslebeck, too.

A good coach puts the win and the playoffs above loyalty to any one player.

by The Jade Scorpion on Dec 19, 2011 1:37 PM CST up reply actions  

Wrong

I post my inane bullshit win or lose.

Official MCM Hater!

Nate Washington Fanboy

by gramsey712 on Dec 19, 2011 1:38 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

Keep Locker and Nate

FIRE ERRBODY ELSE!!!!

MCM Logic > Real Logic
Titans Dave Ball on tackling Bucs Blount: "It’s like trying to tackle a greased up, naked guy in the shower."
"You give Peyton Manning a better gm, coach, owner and he goes down as the greatest person to ever live." - coltsfan1888
MCM's Official Knee-Jerk Reaction Game Thread Over Dramatic Poster

by Dynamic Dreadlocks on Dec 19, 2011 1:47 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

I don't see the point in throwing him in now.

He’s not going to catch the football, he’s not going to block, he’s not going to run the football (okay maybe a little), and he’s not going to play defense.

2012: The year we clip the Hawk.

by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Dec 19, 2011 1:48 PM CST up reply actions  

People want change for the sake of change.

Yes, Hass has not done much lately…but Locker hasn’t been able to engineer this last-second wins when he’s come in and has also gone against softer coverages for the most part. I also agree with you, I’d rather go ahead and let Hass take the beating over the next couple of games (as terrible as that may sound), then give Locker an upgraded unit next year AND a full offseason working in the system before putting him out there to start.

Banned from Stampede Blue for comments made on MCM. Yes, I am a champion.

by ronburgundy7427 on Dec 19, 2011 1:49 PM CST up reply actions  

*This

all of this

You have been banned from Stampede Blue.
Calling a site admin a ‘fuhrer’ gets you banned without warning.
The Saint of MCM

by StPrattrick on Dec 19, 2011 1:51 PM CST up reply actions  

Putting Locker out there does not change anything that people are complaining about

Palmer’s playcalling will still suck

The line will still suck

Johnson is still a quitter

Our defense still chokes at the worst possible time

Tommie Campbell is still on the team

etcetera, etcetera, etcetera, etcetera, etcetera

Official MCM Hater!

Nate Washington Fanboy

by gramsey712 on Dec 19, 2011 1:52 PM CST up reply actions  

I still like Tommie Campbell

even though he is an idiot

You have been banned from Stampede Blue.
Calling a site admin a ‘fuhrer’ gets you banned without warning.
The Saint of MCM

by StPrattrick on Dec 19, 2011 1:55 PM CST up reply actions  

Locker hasn't been able to overcome Hasselbeck's terrible play, ergo Locker should not start?

What do you want from the guy? He has played miles better than Hasselbeck and our offense actually looks alive with him in.

Ain't no time for hesitatin'
All you got to do is groove

Music City Miracles Hall Of Fame, Class of 2010

by BonzosMontreaux on Dec 19, 2011 1:52 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm saying at this point it's pointless starting him.

I will agree that Hasselbeck hasn’t played well, but is it solely on him? No. Locker has also come into games late where coverages have been softer, and he can’t stop the defense from being pathetic in the run defense and giving up key plays at the worst time.

Banned from Stampede Blue for comments made on MCM. Yes, I am a champion.

by ronburgundy7427 on Dec 19, 2011 1:55 PM CST up reply actions  

Sorry, hit post too soon...

WIth the mediocrity in all phases of the game, why throw Locker in there now as the starter? He has no true downfield threat at WR, no run game, no line to block in either aspect, and no TE to be an outlet guy when he needs it. Let him sit and do what he’s been doing most of the year, make some offseason upgrades and allow him to work in the system in the offseason.

Banned from Stampede Blue for comments made on MCM. Yes, I am a champion.

by ronburgundy7427 on Dec 19, 2011 1:57 PM CST up reply actions  

How did Locker play against the Saints?

Came in pretty early there. Or was that all soft coverage too?

People want to see an offense that has some life, not a fucking 3 yard throw or a 1 yard run every play. I also want to see how he does starting, instead of having to come in and clean up Hasselbecks offensive vomit.

Ain't no time for hesitatin'
All you got to do is groove

Music City Miracles Hall Of Fame, Class of 2010

by BonzosMontreaux on Dec 19, 2011 1:57 PM CST up reply actions  

On the first play, on a hand off

Hass came out of it limping, No reason of that

by Indiana Titan on Dec 19, 2011 1:59 PM CST up reply actions  

Locker should have started that game

We come out in the first actually throwing the ball. get a lead, then pound CJ the rest of the game. Its a win

by Indiana Titan on Dec 19, 2011 1:58 PM CST up reply actions  

i am glad that everyone is thinking that we should keep hass as the starter

not matter how much i want locker in at qb i still want him to have the best chance to succeed

by jv1222 on Dec 19, 2011 1:57 PM CST up reply actions  

and you know exactly how to give him his best chance of succeed?

wouldn´t be benefitial to be in the playoffs as a rookie?

"He's an amazing talent. He's probably the most explosive back since Marshall Faulk and Barry Sanders." - Eddie George, about CJ.

by criollo_pcg on Dec 19, 2011 1:59 PM CST up reply actions  

Playoffs

REALLY

We dont deserve to be in playoffs, and even if we did make it, I wouldnt want to watch that game.

by Indiana Titan on Dec 19, 2011 2:01 PM CST up reply actions  

And you call CJ a quitter?! Seems like you are one of them.

"He's an amazing talent. He's probably the most explosive back since Marshall Faulk and Barry Sanders." - Eddie George, about CJ.

by criollo_pcg on Dec 19, 2011 2:03 PM CST up reply actions  

You have been banned from Stampede Blue.
Calling a site admin a ‘fuhrer’ gets you banned without warning.
The Saint of MCM

by StPrattrick on Dec 19, 2011 2:02 PM CST up reply actions  

play the best player, it's that simple.

hasselebck, right now, is not the best player.

Pearl for Life.
I hate football.

by hal41605 on Dec 19, 2011 2:15 PM CST up reply actions  

hasselebck

It’s Italian!

Official MCM Hater!

Nate Washington Fanboy

by gramsey712 on Dec 19, 2011 2:16 PM CST up reply actions  

I think it is shameful how dreadfully bad our offensive line is.

MCM Logic > Real Logic
Titans Dave Ball on tackling Bucs Blount: "It’s like trying to tackle a greased up, naked guy in the shower."
"You give Peyton Manning a better gm, coach, owner and he goes down as the greatest person to ever live." - coltsfan1888
MCM's Official Knee-Jerk Reaction Game Thread Over Dramatic Poster

by Dynamic Dreadlocks on Dec 19, 2011 1:50 PM CST via mobile up reply actions   1 recs

Yes, let´s wait for the perfect situation!

Locker is known for being a leader, but can´t deal with possibly losing two games. That would ruin his career.

"He's an amazing talent. He's probably the most explosive back since Marshall Faulk and Barry Sanders." - Eddie George, about CJ.

by criollo_pcg on Dec 19, 2011 1:53 PM CST up reply actions  

maybe a chance to go to the playoffs?

"He's an amazing talent. He's probably the most explosive back since Marshall Faulk and Barry Sanders." - Eddie George, about CJ.

by criollo_pcg on Dec 19, 2011 1:57 PM CST up reply actions  

Losing to the Colts does not a playoff team make

MCM Logic > Real Logic
Titans Dave Ball on tackling Bucs Blount: "It’s like trying to tackle a greased up, naked guy in the shower."
"You give Peyton Manning a better gm, coach, owner and he goes down as the greatest person to ever live." - coltsfan1888
MCM's Official Knee-Jerk Reaction Game Thread Over Dramatic Poster

by Dynamic Dreadlocks on Dec 19, 2011 1:57 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

sorry, still possible, even though undeserved.

"He's an amazing talent. He's probably the most explosive back since Marshall Faulk and Barry Sanders." - Eddie George, about CJ.

by criollo_pcg on Dec 19, 2011 2:00 PM CST up reply actions  

Mathematically yes

Half assed effort wise, no

MCM Logic > Real Logic
Titans Dave Ball on tackling Bucs Blount: "It’s like trying to tackle a greased up, naked guy in the shower."
"You give Peyton Manning a better gm, coach, owner and he goes down as the greatest person to ever live." - coltsfan1888
MCM's Official Knee-Jerk Reaction Game Thread Over Dramatic Poster

by Dynamic Dreadlocks on Dec 19, 2011 2:00 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

really this is bullshit.

in your theory we should have tanked the season and picked 1st.

"He's an amazing talent. He's probably the most explosive back since Marshall Faulk and Barry Sanders." - Eddie George, about CJ.

by criollo_pcg on Dec 19, 2011 2:01 PM CST up reply actions  

SUCK4LUCK

MCM Logic > Real Logic
Titans Dave Ball on tackling Bucs Blount: "It’s like trying to tackle a greased up, naked guy in the shower."
"You give Peyton Manning a better gm, coach, owner and he goes down as the greatest person to ever live." - coltsfan1888
MCM's Official Knee-Jerk Reaction Game Thread Over Dramatic Poster

by Dynamic Dreadlocks on Dec 19, 2011 2:03 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

For the record, I was just being facetious with this

Since I am going to be sitting at LP Field Saturday with probably 20,000 of my closest friends (if that many), I would much much rather watch Locker play and see what he can do.

Official MCM Hater!

Nate Washington Fanboy

by gramsey712 on Dec 19, 2011 2:02 PM CST up reply actions  

curious

were there any fat hump fans gloating in your face? or did you go titan gear less and layed low?

by asian phil on Dec 19, 2011 1:58 PM CST up reply actions  

you are ABSOLUTELY right sir

when i finally do go, i’ll make sure to don the whole body suit.

by asian phil on Dec 19, 2011 2:04 PM CST up reply actions  

Loud and proud baby

After the game more like quiet, and ashamed, curling up in a corner, wanting to be carried out

by Indiana Titan on Dec 19, 2011 2:07 PM CST up reply actions  

hate to harp on this more

but finally getting to go see your favorite team play your most despised (i assume) team when they come to your neck of the woods where they are expected to slap the shit out of them only to not even show up for it must have been so shitty.

i hope that never happens to you again.

by asian phil on Dec 19, 2011 2:10 PM CST up reply actions  

Im getting quite use to it actually(ssems to happen alot when Im there)

You would think a manningless, winless my little ponies shouldnt have even been in that game.Im still in shock, numb, dumbfounded,

by Indiana Titan on Dec 19, 2011 2:13 PM CST up reply actions  

no refunds on poor performances

MCM Logic > Real Logic
Titans Dave Ball on tackling Bucs Blount: "It’s like trying to tackle a greased up, naked guy in the shower."
"You give Peyton Manning a better gm, coach, owner and he goes down as the greatest person to ever live." - coltsfan1888
MCM's Official Knee-Jerk Reaction Game Thread Over Dramatic Poster

by Dynamic Dreadlocks on Dec 19, 2011 1:55 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

hey! there is some good news though! We may have saved Caldwell's job for another season!

Success!

You have been banned from Stampede Blue.
Calling a site admin a ‘fuhrer’ gets you banned without warning.
The Saint of MCM

by StPrattrick on Dec 19, 2011 2:11 PM CST reply actions  

It's all part of the plan...

Now they’re going to upset the Texans and/or beat the Sparkle Kitties…and we will have conned them out of Andrew Luck!

Banned from Stampede Blue for comments made on MCM. Yes, I am a champion.

by ronburgundy7427 on Dec 19, 2011 2:12 PM CST up reply actions  

Although I just read that apparently Caldwell staying means Manning would stay...

This just gets better…

Banned from Stampede Blue for comments made on MCM. Yes, I am a champion.

by ronburgundy7427 on Dec 19, 2011 2:15 PM CST up reply actions  

That would be awesome.

Maybe the Fins/Skins make a move for Luck.

2012: The year we clip the Hawk.

by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Dec 19, 2011 2:16 PM CST up reply actions  

On the bright side...

At least we can argue about WHEN our rookie QB should become the starter, rather than wondering SHOULD he be the starter like our divisional rivals the Sparkle Kitties. Reading through BCC is kinda funny with the debate over Gabbert.

Banned from Stampede Blue for comments made on MCM. Yes, I am a champion.

by ronburgundy7427 on Dec 19, 2011 2:20 PM CST reply actions  

Right now I'm hoping they both start Saturday.

I would love to see a Locker vs Gabbert game. Rub Jags fans’ noses in our future elite QB. And give Hass another week of rest should we win out and the stars align for a WC.

The Force is with you, young SkyLocker, but you are not a Jedi... yet!

by J3G77 on Dec 19, 2011 3:24 PM CST up reply actions  

Grmasey, to be clear, what do you fear in a possible Locker start this year?

"He's an amazing talent. He's probably the most explosive back since Marshall Faulk and Barry Sanders." - Eddie George, about CJ.

by criollo_pcg on Dec 19, 2011 2:30 PM CST reply actions  

I don't

Read the thread

Official MCM Hater!

Nate Washington Fanboy

by gramsey712 on Dec 19, 2011 3:25 PM CST up reply actions  

"Last week Cortland Finnegan jumped at the opportunity to call this his last year with the Titans."

Really?

It is like you have three weeks left and they say you are going to be fired, and you don’t hear anything leading up to that. You just do the best you can with what you’ve got. But from history, it doesn’t look bright for me here. But I know I can’t control that. I would be very upset with that. Very upset. I want to retire here.

That doesn’t sound like Finnegan “jumping at the opportunity to call this his last year” with us. Wtf?

[disclaimer: this poster has no idea what the hell he's talking about.]

The future is bright for this Titans squad.

The Official MCM Idiot

by fanoftheunderdogs on Dec 19, 2011 2:34 PM CST reply actions  

...

Yay. We have something in common with Ravens fans.

[disclaimer: this poster has no idea what the hell he's talking about.]

The future is bright for this Titans squad.

The Official MCM Idiot

by fanoftheunderdogs on Dec 19, 2011 6:20 PM CST up reply actions  

Comments For This Post Are Closed


User Tools

The best Tennessee Titans coverage on the internet 365 days a year.

FanPosts

Community blog posts and discussion.

Recommended FanPosts

Images-1-1_small
Two Hours with Tim Shaw and Matt Hasselbeck
Jakelocker2_small
Kendall Wright & "Space Players"
Small
Inside the mind of Blaine Gabbert.
Org_1_dunkin-donuts_dd_logo_small
MCM's Avengers
X350_small
Charting Locker - Open Discussion

Recent FanPosts

Org_1_dunkin-donuts_dd_logo_small
Between the Posts, 5/24/12 - 5/25/12 Edition
Small
What the offseason will really mean to the Titans
Nco_wreath2_small
A little Insight...
Photo_-_again_small
Kevin Matthews: Nepotism or Genetics?
00tenn_small
What Will Be The Titans Most Effective WR Lineup?
Hulk_small
The Zach Brown Project
Jl_small
ESPN's Future Power Rankings Are A Joke - Titans Ranked #23
Washtitans_small
Your 2012-2013 Titans: 16-0 or 0-16?

+ New FanPost All FanPosts >


General Manager

Eddiefrank_small Jimmy

Contributors

X350_small SuperHorn

Mcnair_small gramsey712

F3e0e35d492badc1e5b7a96046063cbd_small August West

91490_obit_heimerdinger_football_small Aditya T (smashville)

Nate_washington2_small rsikes

Wutangclan_small D. Reese