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Has Jeff Fisher been partially vindicated?

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I want to begin this by saying that I am not a Fisher apologist (far from it, actually). I thought it was time for him to leave Nashville (hence my name, NoMoreMustache). There were things he did wrong: he was overly loyal to vets, the whole "Moss and Britt can't be on the field at the same time" thing, franchising Bo Scaife TWICE, etc. etc. I could go on. He needed to leave and I'm generally happy with Munchak and this coaching staff.

That being said, I feel like I am beginning to understand many of his decisions. Think of some of the things that we got on him about: Jared Cook not getting playing time, not playing some of our younger receivers, etc. I'm starting to see why he did those things.

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We have a new coaching staff now. New head coach, new offensive coordinator, new receivers coach, new tight end coach. Yet, despite being praised constantly in the offseason, Jared Cook has done nothing. He's been nonexistent. I don't know if it's the coaching staff that doesn't have trust in him now or the QB (although Hasselbeck and Locker both seemed to avoid throwing to him). Regardless, he is not doing something right. I joked in another thread earlier about rehiring Bo Scaife, but honestly, Scaife was a better tight end than Cook is. He could block well and had decent hands. He got some decent yac too. Was he worth two franchise tags? Of course not. But I see why we played him over Cook.

Onto the wide receivers. We got on Fisher quite a bit for not playing our young guys, particularly Damian Williams, Marc Mariani and Lavelle Hawkins. Well, DWill is basically Justin Gage but faster and more athletic. He deserved to start over Gage. However, look at Mariani and Hawkins. Hawkins still doesn't know the effing playbook and Mariani has stone hands. I love Mariani, he seems like a cool dude, but he should not be lining up at WR. Hawkins shouldn't be allowed onto a football field.

There are other things, too.

Like I said, Fisher needed to go, but I can't help but think that at least some of his decisions make more sense now. Thoughts?

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I guess partially.

Cook and Hawkins no longer have the Fisher excuse, and they have done diddly squat all year (though Cook should have been playing over Scaife, no doubt about it).

2012: The year we clip the Hawk.

by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Dec 13, 2011 10:48 PM CST reply actions  

I see now that you have already provided comments. It’s late, you will have to forgive me on this one.

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by ExRoyalsFan on Dec 13, 2011 11:07 PM CST up reply actions  

With TitansJonne's disavowal of the Hawk, there's no one left to CAW him back onto the field

In terms of vindicating the ‘stache, it might be a little soon for "i told you so’s"

I joined MCM around the time Fish got the can, so I haven’t seen all of what you guys were angry at him about, but there was more going wrong on the team than not feeding the Cookie Monster and keeping the scrubs off the field.

A lot of what’s being talked about in ExRoyalsFan’s fanpost highlights a lot of points of contention that were addressed by cutting him loose.

And if we hadn’t, i doubt we’d be doing better than 7-6.

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by I Believe in Rusty Smith on Dec 13, 2011 11:08 PM CST reply actions  

Fisher has been partially vindicated in my book

You make a good point that both Cook and Hawkins should have never seen the light of day. However, Fisher was the one who formed this roster, so I still have to administer most of the blame to him. He was the one that traded with the Pats to get Cook in the first place. I too have gone through a period of clairvoyance as I now understand why Cook and Hawkins don’t get as much playing time as their talent may warrant. However, it is Jeff’s fault for adding them to our roster in the first place. I’m not sure Bo would come back here, I think there was too much bad blood between the two parties.

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by NJD28 on Dec 13, 2011 11:15 PM CST via mobile reply actions  

It's official.

Every Tuesday is now Jeff Fisher Day.

[disclaimer: this poster has no idea what the hell he's talking about.]

The future is bright for this Titans squad.

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by fanoftheunderdogs on Dec 13, 2011 11:44 PM CST reply actions  

I couldn't say it any better

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by gramsey712 on Dec 14, 2011 8:40 AM CST up reply actions  

I completely agree.

"Do the Titans have a miracle left in them in what has been a magical season to this point? If they do, they need it now. Christie kicks it high and short. Gonna be fielded by Lorenzo Neal at the 25; he dishes it back to Wycheck; he throws it across the field to Dyson. 30, 40, 50, 40, 30, 20, 10, 5, endzone...touchdown, Titans! There are no flags on the field! It's a miracle! Tennessee has pulled a miracle! A miracle for the Titans!"

by TennesseeTyrants on Dec 15, 2011 4:13 PM CST up reply actions  

Mariani has stone hands?

WTF? Seriously? W.T.F. Where are you making this assertion from?

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by JustinS on Dec 14, 2011 12:32 AM CST reply actions  

He muffs the ball every time he tries to return it, clearly.

Horrible returner. We should put somebody without STONE HANDS out there.

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by fanoftheunderdogs on Dec 14, 2011 12:51 AM CST up reply actions  

I think it's route running

mainly as he is never passed to. He also had terrific hands in college so I’d almost definitely blame it on route running.

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by JustinS on Dec 14, 2011 2:40 PM CST up reply actions  

The Titans are having a solid season. And somehow you find reason to praise the former coach?

Even if you don´t like Damian Williams, Cook, Mariani and/or Hawkings, they are playing, so now you get to know how they play and if they are worth anything.
Fisher drafted them but did not give them any chances, therefore he kept useless veterans for way too long. What´s the point of keeping Gage for a few years if you can draft a similar guy (williams, on your oppinion) for less money?
I still have respect for Fisher, but only because of the first part of his stay here (McNair and Eddie era). After that he showed year after year that he can´t evolve or adapt to the changes of the game.
About Scaife, imo Stevens is better than him anyway. And our QB doesn´t throw to TEs often, so there´s no way to know if they could be better or not (both cook and stevens).

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by criollo_pcg on Dec 14, 2011 7:55 AM CST reply actions  

While over-loyalty to friends

definitely plagued fisher, I have yet to be convinced that it won’t also plague Munchak. Probably just goes with the territory for all of them. Hard to take the better guy over the guy that’s pretty good and is your pal.

by numbertenox on Dec 14, 2011 12:11 PM CST up reply actions  

KC fans are apparently considering a promotion......

…..from consistently 6-10 to consistently 7-9/8-8.

Look elsewhere, KC fans. Fisher is not a coach for the modern game; he still prefers the “Game Manager,” aged QB, putting the defense on the field at every possibly opportunity, and trying to sit on a FG lead by attempting to run out the last 15:00 of the clock.

He also plays favorites to such an extent that it can hamper team progress.

I was a pessimist until Fisher finally got Munched!

Finally, a new direction and hope for the future!

by The Jade Scorpion on Dec 14, 2011 1:35 PM CST reply actions  

Yeah..

You should be posting that here.

[disclaimer: this poster has no idea what the hell he's talking about.]

The future is bright for this Titans squad.

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by fanoftheunderdogs on Dec 14, 2011 3:47 PM CST up reply actions  

Am I missing something,

I thought that at least 60% of the reason Fisher was fired/left, was because he couldn’t deal with our QB situation and kept sticking Kerry in when he clearly couldn’t cut it, and even if he didn’t like Vince (he wasn’t good enough anyway) he could have signed a better backup qb who wouldn’t completely ruin the team if he had to play.
All the things you guys are talking about, were just minor annoyances with Fisher. Not the reason he lost his job. So he might be vindicated for those smaller issues but they weren’t the most important issues for the team

by alijeal on Dec 15, 2011 7:45 AM CST reply actions  

Speechless

Almost! fisher had some issues. I liked him and bud adams strapping him with VY didn’t help. I just want to win. Go Titans.

by toysandprojects on Dec 15, 2011 11:04 AM CST reply actions  

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