Football Outsiders Deems Matt Hasselbeck The Worst QB Of Week 12
by August West on Nov 29, 2011 2:46 PM CST
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PrintThe guys at FO have released their Quick Reads column for week 12, and there were a few Titans-related surprises. As I'm guessing you noticed in the headline, Matt Hasselbeck's performance graded out as the 34th worst of the week. I know he was really bad, and the passing attack in general has been in a slump, but I didn't expect it to be this bad. Here were their notes:
Hasselbeck's first quarter: two-of-six passing for 12 yards with no first downs and one interception. Things got better after that, but not much. He finished with 4.1 yards per pass play and 10 first downs, and six plays that lost yardage, turned the ball over, or both.
Ouch... and they didn't even mention that one of those INTs went back for 6 points. I guess it was that bad, but it's just jarring to see Hass below such luminaries as John Skelton, Blaine Gabbert (who got benched) and Caleb Haine.
I was also surprised by one name that wasn't mentioned in the column...
Chris Johnson. Despite gaining 190 yards with steady, efficient gains, Johnson didn't make their short list of the 5 most effective running backs from last week. I get that a lot of things go into their formula, and there are some things we have to take with a grain of salt (terrible Bucs defense, CJ didn't score a touchdown), but CJ had the kind of game that you'd think would rank in the top 5 every week.
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Oh no, the media hates the Titans again...
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Well, he was bad. I didn't know these stats looked so awful though.
Also, 190 yards on 23 carries is top 5 every day.
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by BonzosMontreaux on Nov 29, 2011 2:51 PM CST reply actions
Not surprising
Britt made Hass look good. Hass asks too much from the receivers that we have. He is constantly throwing it 5 yards on 3rd and 10s and expecting the receiver to make a play. A good example is his pass short of the first down to Cook who was being covered by barber…I think the support for Hasselback is almost unbearable. Saying he is the least to blame for our offensive issues is ridiculous. His deep ball is horrid and watching him roll out is painful.
Not calling for Locker, just saying that Hasselbeck deserves a good amount of the blame.
But people are forgeting without him, we wouldn't even be near .500 this season.
He’s easily the MVP of the Titans this year, despite his recent issues.
And it’s no coincidence that he’s done worse as our pass blocking has declined. We knew this coming in; With good protection he succeeds, with bad protection he struggles.
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by fanoftheunderdogs on Nov 29, 2011 3:25 PM CST up reply actions
Talent around him?
Earlier in the season this same arguement was coming up but, reversed. Quite a few posters were saying he was raising the levell of the talent around him. In reality, Britt was making him look like an elite qb. Example, the dangerous shuttle play to Britt in the jags game that went for a touchdown. We praised Hasselbeck for making that play when it was really 90% Britt. Now we see this stupid shuttle pass every week, because hasslebeck cant take the pressure, and it gets old.
Hasselbeck is averaging about 1 int and 1.5 TDs a game? Not sure that we would be worse than .500 without him. Heck, we wouldn’t of won with him this week, had it not been from that great special teams play.
Off topic, anyone else notice that at the end of the Bucs game highlight video on titansonline it says we are 5-6 instead of 6-5?
Hasselbeck's praise for that play was deserved
because even if Britt had gone for a 2-yard gain, it would have been impressive.
Britt went out halfway through Week 3, E-Locker. At that point in the season, we were halfway through the third game of our schedule, 1-1.
With no running game, no Kenny Britt, an inconsistent offensive line, a bipolar defense, and the worst MLB in the league giving up at least one TD almost every game, Hasselbeck still managed so far to keep us from being below .500.
Not sure that we would be worse than .500 without him.
I’m not sure how you can believe this to be true. Have you looked at our offense this year? Overall, Hasselbeck has been the only bright spot in a terrible offense.
Heck, we wouldn’t of won with him this week, had it not been from that great special teams play.
Dude leads a game-winning drive and throws the game-winning touchdown, and your argument is that we ALMOST lost because of him? That’s weak..
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by fanoftheunderdogs on Nov 29, 2011 3:48 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Hasselbeck fanboy mania!
Actually the reason I never bother to post and just read the blogs. Great, beck lead one good drive against the bucs defense with his running back rushing for over 190 yards. Don’t even want to imagine what would have happened if Cj hadn’t broken the slump.
Not calling for him to be benched. Just wondering why he gets no blame. Him being one bright spot of our offense is a stretch. To me, the offensive line’s pass blocking was the bright spot. Pass blocking broke down and so did Hasselbecks play.
"Pass blocking broke down and so did Hasselbecks play."
Which is what we said about him from day one.
I’m not sure what your issue is here. We have said he didn’t have a good game. But he won the game for us at the end.
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What in the world
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by gramsey712 on Nov 29, 2011 4:10 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
There is a "Hasselbeck Fanboy" Club?!
Can I get in??
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by fanoftheunderdogs on Nov 29, 2011 5:53 PM CST up reply actions
Acknowleding that Hasselbeck is a huge reason for our team's success
is not being a fanboy. That’s absurd.
“Beck lead one good drive against the Bucs defense”? That’s what you’re chalking up his 2011 achievements to? Having one good drive? No, just… no.
It seems like deja vu here too with me having to say this again; Having a favorable opinion of someone does not mean you believe they deserve no blame and do nothing wrong.
That generalization makes my brain hurt because I don’t see how anyone could generalize something that dramatically and believe it themselves.
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by fanoftheunderdogs on Nov 29, 2011 4:15 PM CST up reply actions
....
Pass blocking broke down and so did Hasselbecks play.
I’m pretty sure that happens with 99% of the QB’s in the NFL.
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by fanoftheunderdogs on Nov 29, 2011 4:16 PM CST up reply actions
=P
He’s had 3 bad weeks. He was also previously putting up amazing stats against pressure. We’re not fan boying, you’re over trashing.
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What drive did Hasselback lead?
I saw Chris Johnson carrying that offense the entire game from about 12 rows from the field. Hasselbeck had one good play which was the td pass. He had 2 awful plays which were the pick six and the fourth and 1 int. He had many really bad plays that should have been picked off. CJ is the reason we were even in that game.
In Greek mythology, the Titans were greater than the Gods.
by The Titans are greater than the Gods on Nov 30, 2011 10:16 AM CST up reply actions
However, CJ is completely NOT the reason we're even in the wildcard race.
Hasselbeck is.
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by fanoftheunderdogs on Nov 30, 2011 4:29 PM CST up reply actions
That amazing special teams play came in the first quarter
and his game winning TD came in the last 3 min of the game…
I give Hass and CJ re-finding his legs again this one.
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by StPrattrick on Nov 29, 2011 4:44 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
F all that
That left handed pass was badass.
NO, This is not Houstons year.
by pedraza on Nov 29, 2011 3:18 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
Yay, more fuel to the 'Start Locker' fire!
/head to desk
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by fanoftheunderdogs on Nov 29, 2011 3:23 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
/bang head on desk
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by TitanNDCClothing on Nov 29, 2011 5:04 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Hasselbeck was awful for most of the day
But he rallied, kept a play alive and made an incredible throw when we needed it most.
I’m still ridin’ with #8.
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by gramsey712 on Nov 29, 2011 3:28 PM CST reply actions 5 recs
Same here.
He Tebow’d that shit.
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by fanoftheunderdogs on Nov 29, 2011 3:30 PM CST up reply actions
It's easy when 4 of my last 5 comments have been COLIN MCCARTHY
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by gramsey712 on Nov 29, 2011 4:34 PM CST up reply actions 4 recs
Yea, Frankly
I know he is being seasoned and what not, but I think it might be time.
At some point they are going to have to let the better player play, and that is certainly not Hass. Ridicule this post.
The fact you're inviting ridicule right after you comment
is normally a sign you don’t believe what you’re saying is true.
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by fanoftheunderdogs on Nov 29, 2011 3:31 PM CST up reply actions
And that you believe your post is open to ridicule
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by TitanNDCClothing on Nov 29, 2011 5:11 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
START JAKE LOCKER!!!!!111
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by ronburgundy7427 on Nov 29, 2011 3:48 PM CST reply actions
DO EET!!!!1
LOCKER WILL MAGICALLY MAKE OUR WIDE RECEIVERS GOOD!!!1
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by fanoftheunderdogs on Nov 29, 2011 3:49 PM CST up reply actions
It's time
For Jake! Mat will make a good backup.
by toysandprojects on Nov 29, 2011 4:12 PM CST reply actions
... We won though...?
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Uh...really?
I’m excited about Locker but it’s in no way, shape or form “time” for him when not only has Hasselbeck played well all things considered, but we are 6-5 and in the thick of the playoff race.
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by ronburgundy7427 on Nov 29, 2011 5:01 PM CST up reply actions
Hell, KB could make any qb look good.
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by stetix01 on Nov 29, 2011 4:14 PM CST reply actions
Made Collins look great against the Eagles
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by Dagger22 on Nov 29, 2011 4:35 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Nah KB made KB look amazing against the Eagles
He elevated himself to another level in that game, Collins had little-to-nothing to go with that.
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by StPrattrick on Nov 29, 2011 4:48 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I'm not on the "Start Locker over Hass" train, but
I wouldn’t have had a problem with Locker playing some last Sunday. Considering the crappy weather conditions(slippery ball, Hass fumbling pass untouched, ect), I thought Locker may have been more effective than Hass since he is more mobile. Also, as the article shows, Hass wasn’t setting the world on fire last Sunday. Again, I’m not saying start Locker over Hass, but I thought last Sunday may have been a time to consider putting him in with the bad weather and all.
Start locker over hass!....
When Hass is too injured or if we are out of playoff contention to get him some more expierence. Hass reminded me of a QB that sucked a few games in 08 but still found a way to win. Ala Kerry Collins style.
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by Dagger22 on Nov 29, 2011 4:34 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Hasselbeck was terrible Sunday. BUT:
- He made a big time play to win
- He played in heavy rain for parts of the game.
Unless Locker can make the sun come out, its not worth the switch.
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by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Nov 29, 2011 4:44 PM CST reply actions 2 recs
and we won.
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Uh...
- He made a big time play to win
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by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Nov 29, 2011 4:54 PM CST up reply actions
Right!... somehow I skipped over that
sorry, there are too many people calling for Locker to start in here after a win is making my brain melt through my eye balls. Hard to make out what the smart people are saying.
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by StPrattrick on Nov 29, 2011 5:07 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
You should only be paying attention to us smart people.
Turn your filter on for the dumb ones.
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by ronburgundy7427 on Nov 29, 2011 5:09 PM CST up reply actions
I don't never understand why peeple don't listen to us smrt guys moar.
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by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Nov 29, 2011 5:11 PM CST up reply actions
They usta could... butt then dey dont.
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My Game Thread rage-detector has been on overdrive the last few weeks
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Smart, dumb or what ever.
It’s just my opinion. i didn’t say Mat was terrible I just think we would be a better team with jake.
It’s time for a Cinderella run with Jake. Go Titans
by toysandprojects on Nov 29, 2011 6:35 PM CST up reply actions
It's pretty bad to respond to a post jokingly calling you dumb
by misspelling the name “Matt”…
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by fanoftheunderdogs on Nov 29, 2011 6:44 PM CST up reply actions
I am
Dumb cant spell or anything else! i dont get mad unless my Titans lose.
I’ll work on my spelling next time. go Titans.
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by toysandprojects on Nov 29, 2011 7:05 PM CST up reply actions
It's gonna be Jake's turn next year.
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by fanoftheunderdogs on Nov 29, 2011 7:08 PM CST up reply actions
your probley
right Im just a jake fan! also looking for something new to spark our team. I want to win win win. IDK. Go Titans.
by toysandprojects on Nov 29, 2011 7:12 PM CST up reply actions
Uh..
I think our best bet is to stay the course with Hasselbeck this year, let Hass lead this terrible passing offense, get Kenny Britt back next year, maybe add some weapons for Locker to use in the NFL draft, and with no holdout this time CJ should get in camp and we should have a running game. Then Locker can take the reigns with a much better offense and things will be a lot better for him.
I’m afraid of if we start Locker this year with this terrible offense, it’ll undercut his development as a player and hurt him and us in the long-run.
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by fanoftheunderdogs on Nov 29, 2011 7:16 PM CST up reply actions
I resent that!
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by fanoftheunderdogs on Nov 29, 2011 6:45 PM CST up reply actions
Smart?
/blushes like a pre-teen girl
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Does that mean I’m smart, too?!?!?!?!
"Do the Titans have a miracle left in them in what has been a magical season to this point? If they do, they need it now. Christie kicks it high and short. Gonna be fielded by Lorenzo Neal at the 25; he dishes it back to Wycheck; he throws it across the field to Dyson. 30, 40, 50, 40, 30, 20, 10, 5, endzone...touchdown, Titans! There are no flags on the field! It's a miracle! Tennessee has pulled a miracle! A miracle for the Titans!"
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by StPrattrick on Nov 29, 2011 11:48 PM CST up reply actions
Damn
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"Do the Titans have a miracle left in them in what has been a magical season to this point? If they do, they need it now. Christie kicks it high and short. Gonna be fielded by Lorenzo Neal at the 25; he dishes it back to Wycheck; he throws it across the field to Dyson. 30, 40, 50, 40, 30, 20, 10, 5, endzone...touchdown, Titans! There are no flags on the field! It's a miracle! Tennessee has pulled a miracle! A miracle for the Titans!"
by TennesseeTyrants on Nov 30, 2011 10:49 AM CST up reply actions
Locker CAN make the sun come out
And I am still not for the switch
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... is that true?
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Only Tim Tebow can make the sun come out.
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by ronburgundy7427 on Nov 29, 2011 5:09 PM CST up reply actions
/ronburgundy=Will Ferrell?
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by TitanNDCClothing on Nov 29, 2011 5:16 PM CST up reply actions
I'm still getting used to watching Veronica Corningstone on her new show.
Except for some reason they keep saying the character’s played by Christina Applegate.
Up All Night has actually been better than I thought.
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I really like that show
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And that his parents are from Winnipeg. I may have to raise my rankings of Up All Night just for that.
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by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Nov 29, 2011 6:43 PM CST up reply actions
Locker > Tebow < Jesus = JESULOCKER!
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by StPrattrick on Nov 29, 2011 5:54 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
^THIS!!!1
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by fanoftheunderdogs on Nov 29, 2011 6:23 PM CST up reply actions
We have one of those?
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by fanoftheunderdogs on Nov 29, 2011 6:58 PM CST up reply actions
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