Tennessee Titans Daily Links: Paper Starter Edition
by August West on Nov 2, 2011 11:14 AM CDT
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Mike Munchak says that Chris Johnson is still practicing and studying as hard as he ever has in the NFL, and as hard as anyone else on the roster. He also says CJ will remain the starter... which we all recognize is only of interest for one play each game.
Climer says that Munch's decision to shift the load towards Ringer shows that he's more interested in winning than being trapped by the conventional NFL logic that says the guy who's making the big money keeps his lead spot. Of course playing the best players at each position is pretty sound logic in any sport.
The Titans hold steady at 17th in this week's DVOA rankings, though the silver lining is that we did throat kick the Colts right into 32nd.
PFF Focuses on the Titans and Colts, and says that the hate for CJ might be overblown (despite being clearly outperformed by Ringer, Hasselbeck didn't take many chances against the Colts defense and the Titans' CBs are just as good as we've been saying all year.
Beyond the quality-driven stats, the Titans look very mediocre in the raw stat categories; it's even worse when you focus on the run game (ed note: no, sh*t), points scored, run defense and defense on 3rd down totals.
Munch and Jerry Gray decided to start Derrick Morgan over Jason Jones last week, and both guys responded with their best games of the season. While that's a little encouraging, this iteration of the Colts O-line is one of the worst I've seen in a long time. Still, you can expect to see more experimentation as the coaching staff get a better idea of each player's strengths are over the course of this season.
The Tennessean has 5 hot topics headed into Sunday's game.
Nomadic TItans fan/blogger Blaize Pennington makes his case for starting Ringer over CJ over at his new home on the web, Fan Voiced.
Presenting the new hotbed of NFL talent: Montana?
If you're coming to Sunday's game against the Bengals, make sure to bring non-perishable food to donate to the Second Harvest Food Bank.
KSK finds the LOLs in last week's games, including our win over the Colts.
Email me with links and thoughts at mcmaugustwest@gmail.com and be sure to follow @AugustWest_MCM
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by gramsey712 on Nov 2, 2011 11:22 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
It took me a second to get it
Very nice
What's our record?
3 and 3
How'd we ever win 3?
by AntiguanTitan on Nov 2, 2011 1:06 PM CDT up reply actions
Indeed.
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R.I.P. Dinger
by fanoftheunderdogs on Nov 2, 2011 1:46 PM CDT up reply actions
That’s a foolish reason to start ringer. Doubt cj2k and the team would ever become acclimated again if he has fewer snaps each game. And there is a reason cj is the 2nd highest paid back in the league and javon ringer is who he is. Titans should have finished a deal sooner.
by CarlosLehder on Nov 2, 2011 11:45 AM CDT via mobile reply actions 1 recs
Also I remember Jamie harper playing all preseason since ringers back was hurt. Titans should probably start him instead.
by CarlosLehder on Nov 2, 2011 11:49 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Where is Herb Donaldson when you need him?
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by titansfan4ever on Nov 2, 2011 11:51 AM CDT up reply actions
Correction:
Titans should have finished a “smaller” deal soomer.
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by titansfan4ever on Nov 2, 2011 11:49 AM CDT up reply actions
I remember everyone saying to pay him to get him to camp. Now he is having a down year he deserves a smaller deal.
by CarlosLehder on Nov 2, 2011 11:55 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
FIFTY MILLION DOLLARS???
Are you out of your friggin mind?? NOBODY deserves that much money!!!…IMO
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by titansfan4ever on Nov 2, 2011 12:15 PM CDT up reply actions
There's the key words...
…in your opinion. People are paid in the league according to what the market dictates. Like it or not.
by PA-Titan on Nov 2, 2011 12:22 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Right!....like in the NBA....
how’s THAT working for ya?
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by titansfan4ever on Nov 2, 2011 12:36 PM CDT up reply actions
I didn't realize we played in the NBA.
by PA-Titan on Nov 2, 2011 12:43 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Same thing happened in our league...
our owners & players just weren’t as stubborn as the NBA’s.
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by titansfan4ever on Nov 2, 2011 12:45 PM CDT up reply actions
We're not missing football...
and it doesn’t change the fact that players are payed according to what the market dictates. Like I said before. Like it or not, it’s how it works.
Oh I'm not disagreeing with you, I know that's how it works.
I’m just saying it’s WRONG!!
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by titansfan4ever on Nov 2, 2011 12:52 PM CDT up reply actions
How was the $$ allocated before salaries sky rocketed into the solar system?
Maybe they could give some of that $$ to local charities…homeless shelters…disabled vets…student scholarships…rebuilding slums…build hospitals for children with deadly illnesses…IDK…I’m open for suggestions.
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One of these days....WHEN I have more time, WHEN I get that promotion, WHEN my ship comes in. Listen, TODAY is the day WHEN you start to put your goals into action. TODAY is the day WHEN you stop putting things off and decide that the only way the future IS going to be better is if I make TODAY WHENsday!!
by titansfan4ever on Nov 2, 2011 1:00 PM CDT up reply actions
The NFL is a for profit business not a non-profit charity....
TV contracts were not generating the amount of money they are now, but it is my understanding that a percentage of revenue share was always very close to a 50% to 60%. So, the cap was determined by a percentage of gross revenue.
So. let's put all that money in the pockets of a few "star" players...
makes perfect sense.
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One of these days....WHEN I have more time, WHEN I get that promotion, WHEN my ship comes in. Listen, TODAY is the day WHEN you start to put your goals into action. TODAY is the day WHEN you stop putting things off and decide that the only way the future IS going to be better is if I make TODAY WHENsday!!
by titansfan4ever on Nov 2, 2011 1:08 PM CDT up reply actions
That's how business in a capitalist society works...producers get paid.
by PA-Titan on Nov 2, 2011 1:13 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
So what happens when they get paid....
and then they DO NOT produce?
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by titansfan4ever on Nov 2, 2011 1:15 PM CDT up reply actions
haha...
there are exceptions to every rule. Business always has risks. As a business man you measure your risk and hope they pay off, but sometimes you get burned.
Exactly!!
That’s how I feel…..BURNED!!
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by titansfan4ever on Nov 2, 2011 1:21 PM CDT up reply actions
What happens if/when CJ comes out and plays like expected?
Are you going to feel burned then?
Right now...
that’s a BIG if!!
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by titansfan4ever on Nov 2, 2011 1:24 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't think it's as big of an if as you think...
it might not happen this year, but I don’t think he’s done. Hypothetically, would you still feel burned?
I hope you're right, PA...
but to answer your question, there aren’t enough yards to be gained to justify $50,000,000.00 in my mind…but that’s just me.
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One of these days....WHEN I have more time, WHEN I get that promotion, WHEN my ship comes in. Listen, TODAY is the day WHEN you start to put your goals into action. TODAY is the day WHEN you stop putting things off and decide that the only way the future IS going to be better is if I make TODAY WHENsday!!
by titansfan4ever on Nov 2, 2011 1:30 PM CDT up reply actions
I got you...
I hope so too. I guess time will tell. I think you have every right to feel burned. I kinda feel burned too but I’m willing to have some patience this year with all of the off-season turmoil.
Key word there is "patience"...
not exactly one my strengths.
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by titansfan4ever on Nov 2, 2011 1:37 PM CDT up reply actions
haha, understood...
I guess where we differ is how players should be paid. I think if a business is making money, the employees have a right to share in the profits. I don’t have an issue with producers getting paid lots of money. They increase TV revenues, sell more jerseys and more tickets. People are willing to pay more to see producers play.
You must be a new titans fan from this year. If you have seen cj play throughout his career you would have more confidence in his ability. We’re you expecting 5, 2,000 yard seasons out his contract. Pro bowlers have down years.
by CarlosLehder on Nov 2, 2011 1:37 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
Yeah Carlos, I'm brand new here...
but hey, thanks for straightening me out.
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by titansfan4ever on Nov 2, 2011 1:39 PM CDT up reply actions
Have to think that
This is beyond a down year
by Indiana Titan on Nov 2, 2011 1:52 PM CDT up reply actions
... Uh.
I didn’t realize we had moved into the 2012 season in only 8 games.
RIP Dinger
by fanoftheunderdogs on Nov 3, 2011 2:10 AM CDT up reply actions
Ellipses... are...
kind…of…annoying…
RIP Dinger
by fanoftheunderdogs on Nov 3, 2011 2:09 AM CDT up reply actions
Not everyone
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Gotta love being right by accident...
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Better than being wrong on purpose!
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I am wrong on purpose pretty often...
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Well, when you throw THAT much mud on the wall...
not all of it is going to stick….:-)
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by titansfan4ever on Nov 2, 2011 1:28 PM CDT up reply actions
Nice reply...:-)
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by titansfan4ever on Nov 2, 2011 1:26 PM CDT up reply actions
"Doubt cj2k and the team would ever become acclimated again if he has fewer snaps each game."
Why? This makes no sense to me. He’s not a rookie who needs to adjust to the speed of the NFL, he’s a proven star who is in a slump…
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Chill. You have to read the story about why ringer should start to not be confused.
by CarlosLehder on Nov 2, 2011 1:23 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
You mean Blaize's post, right?
It’s mirroring what I’ve been saying for about two weeks now: Ringer is clearly more effective right now, so run him more right now. As CJ gets out of his slump and the big runs come back, he’ll get the clear no.1 spot again.
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As soon as I read that first sentence I knew you had just created an MCM shitstorm.
Let the scrolling begin.
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by fanoftheunderdogs on Nov 2, 2011 1:47 PM CDT up reply actions
What do you guys think of the Jason Jones experiment as far as him moving to DE?
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Sure....why not?
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by titansfan4ever on Nov 2, 2011 12:14 PM CDT up reply actions
I mean do you think he is being better utilized at DE as apposed to DT?
He seems to not be making as many plays at DE
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If it was up to me...
I’d mix all those guys up until I found what I thought was the perfect spots for them. Aren’t you glad it’s not up to me?
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by titansfan4ever on Nov 2, 2011 12:20 PM CDT up reply actions
I bet I could average more than 2.9 ypc at running back
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by titansfan4ever on Nov 2, 2011 1:24 PM CDT up reply actions
It's probably difficult to make that transition...
and for him to be successful there it will probably take more time.
He was originally drafted as a DE, then moved to DT and back to DE
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... RIdiculous...
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He may be drawing more double teams
Which could be resulting in the increased performance from others like Klug and Casey. I’m merely hypothesizing and have nothing to back it up, but it’s a thought. Alternatively, he could just be having a down year like another Titan we know. I won’t name names…
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by TitanNDCClothing on Nov 2, 2011 12:23 PM CDT up reply actions
True, and I have no evidence to prove otherwise
He has just been pretty quiet the majority of the year, and seemed to destroy people while at DT… but he was also injured a lot playing that position
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by TitanNDCClothing on Nov 2, 2011 12:39 PM CDT up reply actions
I've been sayin' the same thing for years...
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Guess you can't argue with this:
Munch and Jerry Gray decided to start Derrick Morgan over Jason Jones last week, and both guys responded with their best games of the season.
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by titansfan4ever on Nov 2, 2011 12:26 PM CDT up reply actions
I didn't know they were playing the same side in the first place... maybe they should both be out there.
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I think it's good to switch em all out periodically....
keeps them fresh & rested.
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by titansfan4ever on Nov 2, 2011 12:32 PM CDT up reply actions
yup
and play them in spots that best fit their skills.
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Ball has been the starter on the other side.
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I've liked it
I really like the bigger DTs and as Jones and Morgan get more comfortable they’ll be a very good duo at DE. Judging the D-line by sacks alone isn’t a good yard stick, because you have to look at what they’re being asked to do. Gray wants more disciplined line play than Washburn did, which is why we’ve seen more blitzes to off-set that. Part of the reason Finny and the LBs have been making more plays behind the line is because the O-line already has their hands full.
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I know this;
Judging the D-line by sacks alone isn’t a good yard stick, because you have to look at what they’re being asked to do.
I am just saying I haven’t heard much from him this season in general, good or bad. I think Jones is great and hope he stays here for a while, I just wanted him utilized the best whatever position he ends up staying at. I agree though, the bigger DT are a thing of beauty and it looks like we’ve found ourselves long time starters in Klug/Casey.
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I'd say he's been good, not great.
But I think as he settles in he’ll wreak more havoc in the backfield.
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It's defintely kept him more healthy so far this season!
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and this is a thing of beauty:
Ruthless Rookies
Poor Seth Olsen (-3.5). The Colts RG only lasted 25 snaps before his coaches decided he’d had enough, but they really had no choice once it became clear that he was absolutely no match for Karl Klug (4.9), who went to work on him, picking up a sack, hit and pressure. His sack at 10:22 in the second was particularly brutal to watch with Klug treating Olsen with utter contempt as he swept pass him. In fairness to Olsen, he wasn’t alone in getting the Klug treatment, with Jamey Richard getting beat instantly by the DT with 3:32 to go in the game as the 5th round pick finished the day with a sack, hit, three pressures and a batted pass. That would normally make you the star DT on your team, but he’ll be sharing those honors with Jurrell Casey (3.2) with both men trying to work their way into my race for rookie of the year.
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by StPrattrick on Nov 2, 2011 12:20 PM CDT reply actions 3 recs
Way to rep it Montana!!!
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Turning on the CJ Hate Machine... (from the PFF article)
When he runs the ball and it’s not for four or more yards people blame and boo him, even with an offensive line that has been very hit or miss
a) I listened to an offseason filled with how CJ was a playmaker and deserves _______ amount of money. Big contracts increase expectations. I didn’t expect 2000 yards, but I sure expect more than a 1000.
b) At this point I’d settle for him getting 3 yards a carry. What does that say about his play?
Sure Johnson wasn’t great in this one, but he made some smart cuts and picked up some decent yards when given the opportunity, so maybe we don’t pile on him just yet.
Its only one game, he’s getting his game legs back.
Two games is no big deal, he’ll be back to himself soon enough.
Okay, give him a break. A few bad games in a row and everyone jumps all over him. Cut him some slack.
Wait ’till after they bye. A little rest and more reps should really help his production.
How many times have I been told to “wait” for his production to increase? You can only wait so long before its hurting your team, and CJ’s a liability right now. If we wait any longer for him to turn things around, it’ll be the end of the year and our craptastic run game will have a 2.0 YPC. I’m in favour of a 70-30 split of carries in favour of Ringer, but I don’t oppose even more than that. At least for one game, it can’t hurt.
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by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Nov 2, 2011 1:27 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
This;
How many times have I been told to "wait" for his production to increase? You can only wait so long before its hurting your team, and CJ’s a liability right now.
So much.
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Rage! Rage against the RB who got paid!
Ain't no time for hesitatin'
All you got to do is groove
by BonzosMontreaux on Nov 2, 2011 1:34 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Rage against the running back who can't freaking average 3.0 yards a carry!
Darn right I’ll rage on that.
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by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Nov 2, 2011 1:38 PM CDT up reply actions
You were raging before the season even started.
But you don’t rage against any of the other culprits.
Ain't no time for hesitatin'
All you got to do is groove
by BonzosMontreaux on Nov 2, 2011 1:39 PM CDT up reply actions
Yes. I vehemently disagree with paying any RB 50 million, and 30 guaranteed.
That’s just my personal philosophy on team building. However, any mediocre back can average more YPC than CJ right now, regardless of how crappy their o-line is. You fail to accept that, which is why we disagree so much.
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by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Nov 2, 2011 1:41 PM CDT up reply actions
Any mediocre back behind an average O-line, maybe.
Ain't no time for hesitatin'
All you got to do is groove
by BonzosMontreaux on Nov 2, 2011 1:45 PM CDT up reply actions
But even the 30th and 31st ranked o-line has a back who averages more than 3 YPC.
They are averaging almost a full yard more than us.
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by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Nov 2, 2011 1:48 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
maybe we should just silence all the "CJ is getting paid too much" rage speeches
and then stop saying “he’ll break one” every week, just let everything happen in it’s natural progression, or freaking jump ship and turn him into a wideout
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Rankings are not linear.
Ain't no time for hesitatin'
All you got to do is groove
by BonzosMontreaux on Nov 2, 2011 1:51 PM CDT up reply actions
So?
Seattle’s line has the EXACT same power success as ours and 2% lower of percent stuffed. Yet they have a 3.67 average for RBs, 3.24 overall. You continually point out that our line is so, so, so much worse than everyone else’s and that’s why CJ’s average is so much lower but Seattle’s line is quite comparable to ours. Statistically similar in all categories, except running backs.
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by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Nov 2, 2011 1:54 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Except ive admitted that CJ is not running like he used to.
I haven’t said the O-line is the only reason for his struggles.
Ain't no time for hesitatin'
All you got to do is groove
by BonzosMontreaux on Nov 2, 2011 2:06 PM CDT up reply actions
Then you mean his other issues, like vision, hesitation, etc?
I agree with all those things. Those are CJ issues though.
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by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Nov 2, 2011 2:09 PM CDT up reply actions
I actually pointed out that i don't think Ringer can continue to break as many tackles against a better defense.
If he does well against Cinci then i may change my tone, but he broke a ton of tackles against the Colts, a team that just quit.
Ain't no time for hesitatin'
All you got to do is groove
by BonzosMontreaux on Nov 2, 2011 2:12 PM CDT up reply actions
Ringer's not really a big back.
Why did he break so many tackles compared to CJ? Again, I didn’t watch the game.
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by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Nov 2, 2011 2:13 PM CDT up reply actions
you don't have to be "big" to be bigger than CJ
he’s still got 15 lbs on CJ
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no not really, There may be a 5 lb diference
but CJ has more lean muscle on a tall body, compared to bulk muscle on a short body
by Ice0ne (CAJ) on Nov 3, 2011 12:00 AM CDT up reply actions
that wasn't a guess
205 -190 =?
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like i said, and like its been linked here
Cj doesn’t weigh 190.
and ringer is a bit bigger than when he came in also
Ringer is clearly running harder than CJ.
But can he break tackles against a defense that hasn’t given it up for the season? I’m not so sure.
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by BonzosMontreaux on Nov 2, 2011 2:20 PM CDT up reply actions
But don't you think he deserves a shot?
If he fails, then we have our answer.
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by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Nov 2, 2011 2:21 PM CDT up reply actions
I didn't say he doesn't deserve a shot.
But one average game against the Colts and all of a sudden he is our savior? No thanks.
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by BonzosMontreaux on Nov 2, 2011 2:23 PM CDT up reply actions
this
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Not our savior.
But better than what we’re getting.
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by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Nov 2, 2011 2:23 PM CDT up reply actions
not
this
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And you're basing that off of...? Not stats, that's for sure.
Not game film, that’s for sure.
It must hurt to have your CJ jersey so far into your ears.
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by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Nov 2, 2011 2:27 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
bahahahaha
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i have not said CJ was better or not
I’m saying OUR FRIGGIN LINE HAS NO ABILITY TO RUN BLOCK!!!! No fanboy shit, I’m saying as a Titan fan, it’s not all CJ, and Ringer proved it by never really having a breakout game, 60 yards on Indy is NOT a good game and is why coach is still starting CJ, lighting up his load is WHAT I ALWAYS WANTED!!!! I just want to win (thinks about 2 weeks ago and cries a little again)
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People keep saying Ringer wasn't that good.
Yet the back they favour had 50% less yards.
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by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Nov 2, 2011 2:40 PM CDT up reply actions
sigh
He wasn’t that good, he isn’t as good as CJ I’m sorry. If anything we can sign a better back if you feel we need to completely jump off the Chris Johnson bus, but i feel like it’s the style of play/o-line screwing things up, I think Ringer should get MORE carries than Johnson. But starting… no not yet not on that bus.
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I don't care who is starting as long as someone is running correctly... anyone, I don't care.
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swhat im saying
But to tell the truth, that’s the best we’re going to see Ringer run, but that doesn’t mean defenses aren’t going to respect him, nooooow!!!! if we give him the majority of the carries and put in CJ on third downs and other weird ass scat-back situations… then we have a movement, also split him out wide, get both players on the field at once… JUST PRODUCE SOME RESULTS DAMMIT!!!!
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that’s the best we’re going to see Ringer run
At least give the guy a shot before you condemn his future.
that’s the best we’re going to see Ringer run
I very much doubt this.
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let me revise my statement
that’s the best we’re probably are going to see him run, at least if it isn’t preseason. He’s good, but come on now… I’m not buying the JR2K tee-shirts just yet
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No one said he's getting 2K yards
is he going to be a very decent back up for us? definitely.
Is he going to take over CJ’s starting roll and push CJ out of Ten.? ONLY if CJ lets it happen.
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who is?
man you take your argument to the extreme. nobody is arguing he has 2k season ability!
hyperbole is one of the literary fallicies i use when speaking football
because i really don’t want to change an opinion, i just want to talk shit
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hey WTF
quick question, who ran better against Indy? i don’t think we have covered that enough yet.
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why did i lol when i read this???
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Yeah, he had 60 yards (plus 50-something in receiving) on only 14 carries
he didn’t get primary back carries till the end.
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and they are issues that should be correctable too
whoever the hell this Jim Skipper fellow is, i’m not impressed. a good RB coach should be able to sit him down in front of the film, talk him through what he’s doing wrong, and figure out how to fix it. so far we have seen no evidence of this.
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Just curious.
The o-line is so bad (and I agree with this), but are they playing better when Ringer goes in? How do you explain that?
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by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Nov 2, 2011 1:43 PM CDT up reply actions
BECAUSE THE DEFENSE BACKS OFF OF RINGERZ!!!!!! I MEAN WHAT'S HE GOING TO DO, RIGHT?!!!!!!!1
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They are absolutely not playing better when Ringer is in.
Ringer broke far more tackles than CJ (which i’ve admitted), but he was hit in the backfield just as much.
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by BonzosMontreaux on Nov 2, 2011 1:45 PM CDT up reply actions
I didn't get to see the game, so I have no idea if this is true or not.
I’ll take your word for it.
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by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Nov 2, 2011 1:50 PM CDT up reply actions
ringer's smaller but bulkier body
broke tackles by a bad colts D, he did get hit in the backfield alot though.
He had a 5 yard loss on a run, before he could take a step he and hasselbeck were on the ground from a DT tackle, AMANO SUCKS AT RUN BLOCKING
by Ice0ne (CAJ) on Nov 3, 2011 12:03 AM CDT up reply actions
90% agree with you
Make Ringer the primary back for a while, but they have to keep 30%-40% of the touches going to CJ so he can work his way out of this funk.
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This is what I've been harping on the past few weeks.
Ringer is productive, he deserves more carries. CJ doesn’t need to get 0 carries, but it shouldn’t be a fair split right now. Even 40% is a little lenient in my opinion, only because if he does continue to play poorly, you limit the effectiveness of Ringer, assuming his production stays the same. Against the Colts Ringer was productive, CJ wasn’t, but in the end you end up with around a 3 yard average for the game. Again.
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by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Nov 2, 2011 1:39 PM CDT up reply actions
Like I said, I am fine with a Thomas Jones/Jamaal Charles type of committee going
involving CJ more in the passing game and getting into space
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the difference is
we know CJ has upside. tremendous upside, in fact. for those of us who don’t believe that the talent fairy showed up and stole everything from him while he was sleeping one night, the question is “how do you get CJ back on track,” not “how do we get a mediocre running back more carries.” javon ringer will not save us.
that’s why my arguments are always about how to fix the blocking, or how to use more creative sets and play calls for CJ. when a starter struggles, the back up is always the most popular guy on the roster. usually it just ends up reaffirming why he was the backup in the first place.
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And if Ringer completely fails, and puts up CJ-like numbers, I will completely accept that it is all on the o-line,
and that no matter what back we use, they are doomed to fail. But in his limited touches, he’s producing.
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by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Nov 2, 2011 1:56 PM CDT up reply actions
Ringer isn't doing exactly all that great
but I’ll take it off the o-line if there were not comments like this from experts
The former Raiders and Panthers DE was a force in the run game and none more so than one when he decimated Eugene Amano
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Ringer isn't doing great. He's doing "better."
I continually assert that an average back should be able to average more than 3 yards a carry. I don’t claim that Ringer is great, but I do claim he’s an average back and will support my theory.
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by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Nov 2, 2011 2:07 PM CDT up reply actions
i don't think he's doing better
one game isn’t indication of “better”. It’s the friggin line, im sorry but when you’re getting pwned by a Colts lineman you need to re-evaluate what you’re doing in life
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The same offensive and defensive lines matched up in that game.
The RBs rotated. One was better (yes it was clearly better) and one was bad.
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by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Nov 2, 2011 2:26 PM CDT up reply actions
....
I am going to concede, not because you’ve convinced me, but because this is pointless.
IMO, the better option would be to work in Harper since Ringer was only able to get yards off of really bad tackling… Harper probably can nmake that into something awesome
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Your whole argument is based off of hypotheticals...
Ringer did run better than CJ facing the same line… How does an argument that Harper would be better even enter this. We saw Harper in 1 play and he didn’t get positive yards.
Hypotheticals
The whole start Ringer argument is hypothetical, hell my whole Ringer isn’t better than Johnson is hypothetical, until they hop on the field every Sunday we don’t know who is going to be the better player that game, I just feel like talent wise, Johnson has more
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Talent wise Johnson absolutely has more...
I don’t think you’ll see anybody say Ringer has more talent than Johnson. But we saw hard evidence that Ringer is running harder than Johnson at this point. That is not a hypothetical.
true...
or not idk, i think he has more body to run harder with, give the man more carries, i would love to see that, if he develops into another 100 yag player then we’d be unstoppable rushing team
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I think that could be the somewhat benefit from all this
seeing what we have in our other RBs as well and learning to not depend on CJ for nearly all of our offense. We’ve been saying for a while now that we would like some of the pressure to come off of CJ as far as carries… I guess we just didn’t expect it to come off this way.
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yeah, cuz i only entered the argument when i might've misunderstood the other side of it
what you might’ve been saying was “Ringer is better for now” but what i read was “CJ FUKKING SUXORS AND WE NEED TO CUT HIS ASS”
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No worries, it's easy to get lost in the interweb-VunceV:2.0-Rage around here
but I am honestly not trying to hate on CJ instead looking for positives/fixes/who can help the team/CJ will rise above this eventually, if not he won’t be here much longer (with good reason)
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I think this season may end disappointing for him
but not the team, but he comes back with a monster year next year…
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We all hope
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yeah
I just hope it’s with us, I want him to do well here so he doesn’t get all traded and goes on another team and rapes defenses… THAT, will piss me off
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We thought the same thing of Vunce...
just sayin’
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I'm pretty sure he'll still be here...
at least for 1 more year.
ugh
he had a mediocre game against a crap defense.
he’s at 3.5 ypc on the season. that ~.5 ypc difference will NOT make this team a playoff contender.
the difference is we know when CJ is running right, he can fundamentally alter games. ringer has basically shown he can do spot duty and pass block. no one who wants to keep CJ in there wants to do so because they are satisfied with what he’s doing currently. it’s a terrible slump. but one way or another, he’s going to have to get through it if this team is even going to be decent in Britt’s absence, much less have a shot at a playoff spot.
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I dispute a few of these.
he had a mediocre game against a crap defense
CJ faced the same crap defense and had a little over half the yards. On the same number of carries. So if Ringer’s game is mediocre (and I’d argue this as well), does that make CJ utterly useless?
it’s a terrible slump. but one way or another, he’s going to have to get through it if this team is even going to be decent in Britt’s absence, much less have a shot at a playoff spot.
How is this different from using that same line every single game since Week 1? And nothing has changed. Waiting was fine. Now its not. A “mediocre” run game would give us a better playoff shot than what CJ is giving us.
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by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Nov 2, 2011 2:17 PM CDT up reply actions
Gawd let's just not return to up Amano's ass every week and I'm good
but I agree more with him, Ringer is a different back than Cj, he can probably make more with nothing since he’s a bigger (than CJ at least) back… and whatever happened to having more than one good reciever. we can make it without Kenny if they hunker down and practice these routes until it’s engraved into their skulls
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the assumption is CJ will get better, not that he is currently playing better. he will regress to the mean, whatever you want to call it. ringer is just some dude who’s probably a backup for a reason.
How is this different from using that same line every single game since Week 1
really? you need that explained? CJ has shown he can be great. the o-line has been trash at run blocking for the third season in a row now. nothing analogous at all there.
the point is ringer was mediocre against the worst defense in the league. against better defenses, he will probably be less than mediocre. we know CJ’s ceiling is vastly superior to ringer’s. so do you accept the sub-mediocre performance, or keep toying with things and hope somewhere that they can flip the switch and CJ comes back to life?
the marginal improvement that ringer provides over CJ at his absolute worst, is not nearly enough to justify giving him a larger share of carries at the expense of trying to get CJ back close to his best, which is vastly superior to ringer and good enough to actually make a shot at a playoff game semi-feasible. should they slip carries? sure. should ringer be a 70% of the load or whatever nonsense you threw out above? hell no.
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I usually argue with hal
but he has a point
albeit, I think CJ should start, not because Ringer sucks, or even because he needs to get out of his funk, but really because it’s the better back (YEAH I SAID IT) BUT!!!! He is not a workhorse back, he can do it sure, but it doesn’t fit his talents, slow him down, he’ll eventually come to
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GOOD JOB MUNCH, exactly how i would play it myself
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So basically
every game, instead of seeing if changes work, we’ll do the same thing over and over and expect different results.
I see what you’re getting at: that the threat of CJ bursting for 150 is enough to keep him on the field. I agree that there is a chance he can bust out. Maybe its this week, maybe its three weeks from now. But you can only wait so long. A marginal improvement in the run game would do wonders for our offense, and that, not CJ, is going to give us a better shot at the playoffs.
I also disagree that CJ is going to make us a playoff team, or a playoff contender, whatever you want to call it. Running backs rarely lead teams like that, but that’s a debate for another time.
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by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Nov 2, 2011 2:38 PM CDT up reply actions
i think the ratio against the colts was fine
but this team is way too starved for productive weapons to have Cj only in spot duty. it can’t last forever unless there’s some shit going down that we don’t know about, like him being hurt, or munchak lying his ass off about how hard he is working in practice.
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ringer is just some dude who’s probably a backup for a reason.
I’d be careful about making this assumption. There are countless examples of no name running backs blowing up when given the opportunity. Of course, that doesn’t mean it’s probable that it will happen with Ringer. Doesn’t mean it should be totally dismissed either. The kid is running hungry, and I can guarantee it cannot possibly get any worse. Downside is minimal.
Moreover, why waste any more tread on CJ’s tires when he’s running like shit? Save some of that talent for future years when he’s seeing the field better and the blocking’s upgraded.
this is not denver
if CJ’s problems are vision / instincts, don’t you have to play through that?
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yes
but you don’t have to let his slump paralyze the whole offense.
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how does half a yard per carry = paralysis?
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because CJ's carries aren't a consistent 2.9
they more likely to be 0, 1, 0, 8… and those first two can be drive killers.
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THEN GIVE ANOTHER BACK A CHANCE
maybe we’ve been playing CJ all wrong these last couple of years, CJ=fast as crap and will break big runs on you… also framework=195 pounds 5foot 11, does that sound like a workhorse, use the dude right and friggin play another back more often before we lose more talent
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It's not Denver, but we are running primarily a zone system.
Hell look at Arian Foster. He was buried on the practice squad behind Steve Slaton, Ryan Moats, and Chris f’ng Brown.
I don’t expect a breakout from Ringer, but let’s give the kid a shot.
OMG CHRIS JOHNSON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
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by fanoftheunderdogs on Nov 2, 2011 1:48 PM CDT up reply actions
Simple question: Do those that think CJ isn't the root of the problem believe that our Offensive line is historically bad?
As in, when you watch the Titans, do you think this is one of the worst O-line’s in NFL history?
Since 1970, only 4 running backs have had a season where they averaged less than 3 ypc and had more than 200 carries in the year (read: feature back), which is CJ’s current pace. Of course, CJ gets the benefit of an entire season before we can really start making these comparisons. Still, it paints an interesting picture of how historically bad he’s been this year.
Interesting side note: Eddie George was one of the other 4, and that came after his 400+ carry season. OL Coach Bruce Matthews was at center.
I know about Eddie's troubles
way too much, but that was the tires wearing down… or maybe there isn’t a clear idea as to exactly how much CJ has grasped this new playbook. but i don’t think we have another Eddie case atm
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I'm not likening it to Eddie.
They are different. Just found it interesting that he was one of the other four. No correlation there.
true
But somebody on SportsCenter is bound to make that claim sooner or later
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Please tell me this is his old tweet...?
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Nope. Just now
"I wear tinted visor not to trick other players, but so hot girls in stands don't see me looking at them" - Alex Ovechkin
Actually, that is Wyatt tweeting Johnson's comments from yesterday
So: new.
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It was from yesterdays interview...
I watched the interview. I will say that it does come across a lot harsher over twitter than when you watch the whole interview.
I saw that...
just when I thought he was learning. He doesn’t understand that a lot of people are Titans fans before they are CJ fans.
That's my point.
He is a Titan. I am a CJ fan because I’m a Titan fan. So, does that make me not a true fan?
The previous tweet showed a sense of accountability (very minor, but I'll take it)
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Yeah it can, you could start calling out who your 'real fans' are......
oh wait…?
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NO BODY GIVES A FUCK ABOUT YOU CJ!!!!!!!!11 WE ARE ALL TITANS FANS YOU ASSHOLE
That’s it. I am on the hate train, choo choo you son of a bitch
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oh come on now...
what do you want him to say, that he’s crying in a closet listening to the Smiths?
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Yes.
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Actually, I want him to say nothing. at. all. and do his damn job
why is that so much to ask?
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cuz media relations it part of his job?
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Clearly it's not because he would be fired.
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he admitted it was bad
said he was keeping his head up and not letting the fans bother him.
that’s pretty fucking boilerplate, homes.
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Where? If he did, I didn't see it.
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I am tried of him calling out who are what fans of him, like it even matters
maybe this is a twitter specific conversation he is having with those people or just fans in general, why is it so much to ask to keep his mouth shut and focus on the job he is not doing right?
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these are wyatt's tweets from press conference
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Clearly all I saw from the conversation was posted above:
@jwyattsports
Jim Wyatt
Johnson said criticism from fans doesn’t bother him, that his true fans have his back #Titans
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clearly
i should have just assumed you were uninformed. burrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrn
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thats what he's been doing
i’d rather him do this then snap and start slapping you and Amano around
by Ice0ne (CAJ) on Nov 3, 2011 12:10 AM CDT up reply actions
well too bad
he’s clearly more of a fan of Morrissey’s later work.
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Morrissey's later work is better anyway.
Just sayin’
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I'm more of a Joy Division guy
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haha I can imagine him saying that while he mopes now
"I wear tinted visor not to trick other players, but so hot girls in stands don't see me looking at them" - Alex Ovechkin
SHUT YOUR FACE YOU FAKE FAN!!!
Yeah, seriously though, he needs to understand that we’re rooting for the jersey they wear, not necessarily each individual player. Yes, we want you to succeed, but we wanna see the Titans succeed more than anything else
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it's entirely possible
that the ‘non-real’ fans are fantasy football people who go bonkers on him
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by August West on Nov 2, 2011 3:59 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Very true, but you could understand where that may get lost over twitter-speak... ?
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this
I get that he cares about Titans fans and not the people taht say ridiculous things to him on Twitter but it’s bad on paper liek this
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by sami426 on Nov 2, 2011 4:02 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I have seen them saying some pretty horrific stuff to the dude on twitter...
but CJ really knows how to alienate people when he talks. Frustrating.
in all honesty
I’ve quit following 90% of the athletes on Twitter because they make for a crappy, unfunny timeline of inane tweets.
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And this is why I don't use twitter in general
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I still follow all of the good beat writers and analysts
that’s enough for me. Outside of that, I’d rather read a tweet from Paul F Tompkins or Scott Aukerman than an athlete.
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I'm going to do the same...
I can’t think of one thing an athlete has tweeted that has added anything positive or informative to my life.
Im over Hawkins
When will Avery be unleashed?
Oh hai MCM
by Dagger22 on Nov 2, 2011 6:01 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
DUCK AND COVER
THE JONNE WILL BE COMING SOON
AND HE WILL DEVOUR YOUR BABIES
RIP Dinger
by fanoftheunderdogs on Nov 3, 2011 2:07 AM CDT up reply actions
Chris Johnson deserved his contact, guys.
by fanoftheunderdogs on Nov 3, 2011 3:07 AM CDT reply actions
So, why don't we have him do more slot receiver work?
One thing I did notice about CJ this year is that he can still catch the ball, which is something we also lack. Why not put that speed in the slot? If the O-line can’t make holes, then lets turn him into Wes Welker and let other teams fear him there. Maybe he can get opportunities in the backfield again once they start expecting him to be in a different role?
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