Word Of Muth Takes the Titans Offensive Line to Task
by Jimmy on Oct 27, 2011 11:59 AM CDT
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PrintBen Muth writes a weekly column about offensive lines for Football Outsiders. This week his column is titled "Titanic Beatdown." I am guessing you can figure out who/what the column is about.
His assessment of Sunday's game is that Jake Scott had the worst game of all the lineman:
The offensive lineman that struggled the most against Houston was Jake Scott. He allowed a lot of penetration in the running game that limited the holes that Johnson could hit. When a defensive lineman gets a lot of penetration, the running back either has to cut it up or bubble around him to get outside. Thus, when a guard gives up a lot of penetration, he essentially cuts the line of scrimmage in half -- eliminating either the backside cut back or an outside bounce -- depending on which way the play is designed to go.Scott also struggled getting up to linebackers at the second level. A lot of Tennessee’s linemen had this problem (particularly on the backside), but Scott seemed to struggle more than most. The right guard also gave up one of Tennessee’s sacks. He was blocking J.J. Watt, who was charging hard up field. Scott rode him pretty good and was driving him into the ground, but he just gave up too much leakage....
Maybe it was just one bad game for Scott, but this doesn't bode well for a Titans team that already has issues at center and the other guard spot. So if Velasco isn't an upgrade, the Titans are going to need to find two new guards and a center before next season.
That is pretty easy to do, right?
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Please just go sign better....
offensive guards and a center!
waive the magic wand!
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Member of CJ Sucks Club. Brah is bad.
So should our rage be with...
anyone in particular or just accept that this isn’t a “good” team like their initial 3-1 record indicated?
In the article, Muth says that CJ is no longer covering up for the poor run-blocking. Yes, we can be (and are) upset with him for his lack of CJ-like production. However, closer inspection shows there is plenty of fault to go around. The OL play, the weak WR corps, and maybe even the coaching…
Then there’s the defense. Both sides depend upon and effect each other (game plans – running out the clock vs passing to catch up;; blitzing vs more conservative d).
Pinning this on one person isn’t accurate. But CJ is the biggest name on the team. And he has the biggest salary. I suppose it comes with the territory.
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by oilertitan on Oct 27, 2011 12:37 PM CDT reply actions 2 recs
I don’t recall there being that much difference in OL and WR this year compared to 2 years ago…..
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Mawae?
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by rothbard on Oct 27, 2011 1:05 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Letting Mawae go was a big mistake..
they thought Harris was a good backup, so why not slide Amano over.
Same thing with Bulluck. Tulluch was good, lets slide him over and pick up Witherspoon.
Then again with Tulluch. Now we have Ruud. The result is a sh*tty O-line and a D that can’t stop the run.
by Jason Jones on Oct 27, 2011 1:57 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
They had no choice. Mawae was blackballed because of his position with the union.
Or so said Mawae..
"He's an amazing talent. He's probably the most explosive back since Marshall Faulk and Barry Sanders." - Eddie George, about CJ.
that's exactly what happened,
but they definitely had a choice. Uncle Bud has been known to give the finger before.
I think this part of the article sums up the CJ conundrum...
Johnson is not playing like an elite NFL running back, or even an above average one, really. Johnson has become a guy who gets you exactly what is blocked, and not even two yards more. The problem with that, of course, is that Johnson is not being paid like a guy who does the bare minimum. No, CJ is the second highest paid rusher in the league — getting only what is there and not making anyone miss is unacceptable at that pay scale — especially when there isn’t very much there to grab.
A fall off in production is fine.
This, however, is unacceptable. Again, CJ wanted to be paid as a playmaker. Well, in a down year, with Derek “I take this $%^& seriously” Anderson at Quarterback, and a God Awful supporting cast, Larry Fitzgerald managed to put up 1100 yards.
People want to define CJ’s season(s) as either good or bad, without further defining how good or how bad. Anecdotally, it’s easy to say Johnson’s playing “bad”, and blame it on supporting cast without giving further thought to the level of suck that we’re currently witnessing. I’d wager that it’s historically bad on a YPC basis as compared to other top 5 paid RB’s. This isn’t just a drop off. 44.7 YPG and .16 TD/game. Those numbers are absolutely shocking.
Remember when
a “down year” for CJ was like 1200 yards?
Is it possible we just overrated CJ the whole time?
Probably not, but I’m just wondering what sort of success another running back would have had behind our ’08 and ’09 lines. Maybe CJ was a good back playing behind a great line, and now, CJ is an average back playing behind a terrible line.
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by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Oct 27, 2011 1:01 PM CDT up reply actions
His speed was phenomenal...
and he could make people miss. I don’t think he was overrated at all. He was amazing to watch.
Nah, CJ has been amazing since arriving here. I don't think it has anything to do with being overrated
We all know what he can do, he’s just not doing it.
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We all know what he can- with a great line.
We are now seeing what he can do without it.
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by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Oct 27, 2011 1:22 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
With all of the evidence we've seen over the last few days... do you really think decline in line play and decline in CJ 'skills' are one and the same?
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No, they both just broke down at the same time, which has caused this unfortunate mess.
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by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Oct 27, 2011 1:37 PM CDT up reply actions
So we've created the perfect storm for a running back to not succeed absolving CJ from all blame?
gotcha.
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No, no.
Now I’m just confused.
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by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Oct 27, 2011 1:49 PM CDT up reply actions
That was easy.
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by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Oct 27, 2011 1:55 PM CDT up reply actions
The line broke down last year.
They weren’t good at all. CJ still had a good year.
This year, they are playing about the same, but CJ can’t make anything happen.
"Do the Titans have a miracle left in them in what has been a magical season to this point? If they do, they need it now. Christie kicks it high and short. Gonna be fielded by Lorenzo Neal at the 25; he dishes it back to Wycheck; he throws it across the field to Dyson. 30, 40, 50, 40, 30, 20, 10, 5, endzone...touchdown, Titans! There are no flags on the field! It's a miracle! Tennessee has pulled a miracle! A miracle for the Titans!"
by TennesseeTyrants on Oct 27, 2011 1:57 PM CDT up reply actions
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Yeah but....
aren’t we being a little too quick to crucify CJ? We’ve played six games. The last of which he had ten carries. He did ok that one game, when we were leading and he had more opportunities. Most of the time we have to abandon the run game. Fisher used to run him until it worked regardless. I’m not saying that he isn’t just as much to blame as the rest of the team, he is. Just saying he really is the same player, although a little more indecisive and a little more dancey.
We abandoned the run because he sucked.
Repeatedly.
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by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Oct 27, 2011 2:20 PM CDT up reply actions
Also, because we are down 20+ points by that time.
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So in-order for CJ to produce we have to run him into the ground is what you are getting at?
that just means it’s even worse then we thought…
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not at all...
I hated it when Fisher just kept running til it worked. I think CJ will work best if we use the passing game to open up the run and not vice versa. Only problem is without KB, our passing game sux!
I'm not crucifying him.
I think he can get it back.
But I also think that one of the most underrated things a running back has is vision and decision making. He displayed great vision and decision making to get to 2k, and he displayed some of that same skillset last year to get to 1300 with a bad O line.
He is completely missing holes this year. That’s the difference. Maybe he’ll get it back, maybe not, but I think the dropoff in production from last year to this year can be placed at least partially on him.
If the dropoff in production was due to the fact that he was carrying the ball less, his YPC would be the same, but his total numbers would be down. That’s not the case. He is picking up less yards every time he touches the ball this year, on average.
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by TennesseeTyrants on Oct 27, 2011 3:08 PM CDT up reply actions
not you, but fans as a whole have put him on the cross...
as far as the YPC arguement, you are dead wrong. With any other back that would be correct, not in CJ’s case. Everyone knows that Chris doesn’t get yardage the traditional way. He gets tackled at the line or one or two yards, then makes up for it with a fifty plus yard gain. I can’t count the amount of times people have said, “without those big runs CJ is no good.” Well, we’ve seen CJ this year without the big home runs.
I’m not denying that he’s been more hesitant this year. I’m with you, that he will be back. I’m just saying that we should use the pass to open up the run. If we lead with the pass, thats less men in the box, less pressure on CJ (hopefully less hesitant), and more of a chance to give him the twenty carries a game he needs to break off that big run.
We already pass it on 63% of our 58 plays per game.
That leads to ~ 22 rushing plays left over. CJ’s running the ball on 73% of those or a little less than 16 touches per game.
The reality of the situation is that passing more will not lead to more touches for CJ as the passing game is currently broken. The logic behind passing more to get CJ would obviously have to be that it’s efficient enough to increase the play total as a whole, but I haven’t seen anything recently to make me believe that’s the case. So, by increasing the percentage of passes per game, you’re more likely to just see less touches for CJ overall, and we saw that against Houston.
The reality is that if CJ wants more touches, then he needs to actually make plays on his own. I know it may sound radical, but if CJ would, ya know, actually convert some plays for first downs, he might get the ball more.
Dude
I did say, “the only problem is that without KB our passing game sux.”
And yes, I did mean efficient passing. Think about it. If we could get a 7 to 10 point lead or better in the first or second quarter, we could afford to let CJ do his hit and miss thing. Lately we have been trying to use the run to set up the pass and thats actaully making us get behind, abandon the run, and pass 63% of the time to play catch-up.
If our passing game was remotely feared or efficient, there would be fewer men in the box, less pressure on the run game, more opportunities to run, and a more balanced offense. CJ would be perfect for this, because he wouldn’t just burn up the clock, he could bust 50+ home runs.
So, then, everything said above and in this comment is theoretical?
As in, it’s in the context of: Our pass game sucks, but if it didn’t, here’s what would work?
Got it.
Worth noting. This is arguably the best passing attack he’s had in his entire career, despite the recent struggles. If anything, I’d suspect that, from that perspective, he’s in a better situation than the past 3 years.
i see you've got your hammer and nails ready to go
I still say he would be more effective if we could use the pass to set up the run and not vice versa.
Look man, don't get me wrong...
I’ve been reading mcm religiously and daily since 07. I have the utmost respect for you and your opinion. A lot of you guys are like the 12th titan to me. I’m a fan of yours.
I think I’ve made my opinion clear with the post just above your last one. I don’t need to explain multiple seasons to you. You are entitled to your opinion just as much as I am.
by Jason Jones on Oct 27, 2011 6:45 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Sorry man.
Didn’t mean to come off like an ass. I’m just frustrated by the whole situation, and I’m having a hard time identifying with CJ apologists at this point.
From where I sit, personnel remains the same last year, and the quarterback position is actually improved. Kenny Britt’s injury is nothing new to CJ (2010), and in 2009 KB wasn’t exactly commanding double teams as a rookie. It’s not as if we just lost a top end QB, and CJ is suddenly seeing more guys in the box. He’s seeing the same things he’s seen his whole career.
Like I’ve said before, all of this isn’t on CJ, but when you’re paid as the 2nd highest RB in the league there are different expectations. 2.9 YPC isn’t cutting it. He’s paid excessively to make plays, not excuses. At this point, I’d just settle for average RB production. It’d do wonders for the rest of our offense.
by SuperHorn on Oct 27, 2011 7:04 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
agreed 100%
There’s the SuperHorn I’m used to. I don’t really want to make excuses for his over-paid ass either. I was thinking of a way to make him useful in his current state.
There’s no arguing with your last post though and I can definitely understand your frustration. I’ve broken two remote controls this season because of CJ.
CJ HAS NEVER HAD A GREAT LINE
stop it!
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Those lines in '08 and '09 were pretty solid.
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by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Oct 27, 2011 1:49 PM CDT up reply actions
08 was squarely average (15th)
though 28th in stuffed % (tackles at line or behind)
09 was below average (21st), 28th again in stuffed %
at no point has this o-line even approached very good, much less great, at run blocking
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Again, I agree. But one thing is undeniable.
CJ in ´08 and ´09 had the capability to make plays even with an average line.
2011 CJ can´t do it.
"He's an amazing talent. He's probably the most explosive back since Marshall Faulk and Barry Sanders." - Eddie George, about CJ.
the stuffed % shows
the line has always had a tendency to blow it on a lot of plays and allow major penetration. the difference now is even when they get it right, which is still not terribly often, CJ can’t take advantage.
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exactly. It always seemed like they only needed to hold their blocks for a split second..
..before CJ could break away.
I miss that feeling of anxiety waiting for him to find the crack and run away with runningfromthecopsspeed.
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Hmmm. I withdraw my statement.
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by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Oct 27, 2011 1:56 PM CDT up reply actions
RIDICULOUS!!!!!!!1<<<
YOU NEVER GIVE UP!!!!!1 n00b
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Yeah follow Pratt´s logic.
Whenever faced with a debate adversity, do one of the following:
1. Picture post with little or no real connection to the subject, but nevertheless interting;
2. Reply with a long comment trying to swing sides on the discussion without anyone noticing; Than reply your own comment agreeing and rec´ing it with your 2nd and 3rd profile.
This will do.
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"interting" = interesting
"He's an amazing talent. He's probably the most explosive back since Marshall Faulk and Barry Sanders." - Eddie George, about CJ.
It's worked out for me so far.
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It´s an art you master!
"He's an amazing talent. He's probably the most explosive back since Marshall Faulk and Barry Sanders." - Eddie George, about CJ.
But you are right, I really should take my internet-sports-blogging/arguing/dumpster-ragging more seriously
… I will try harder for you all
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Yeah I wasn't going to at all, I was just appeasing my fans like CJ should be
if you hatin’ on me then you just don’t know how to blog!
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hahaha great example to CJ, Pratt!
you really keep things interesting around here most of the time.
"He's an amazing talent. He's probably the most explosive back since Marshall Faulk and Barry Sanders." - Eddie George, about CJ.
ALL. OF. THE. TIME!
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You have to admit that every once in a while comes a duslin type to keep things interesting.
"He's an amazing talent. He's probably the most explosive back since Marshall Faulk and Barry Sanders." - Eddie George, about CJ.
Ah man, those are the best
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And btw, CJ really has no clue how to do that.
He could have kept us more on his side, but all he has said brings more against him.
"He's an amazing talent. He's probably the most explosive back since Marshall Faulk and Barry Sanders." - Eddie George, about CJ.
Yes, This, So much...
He is going through a rough patch right now, regardless who’s fault it is… don’t get the fans turning on you. His agent needs to cancel his twitter account.
I really can not stand behind someone who says the shit he’s been saying.
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Athletes + Twitter = AHHHHHHHH THE SPEAKING-FROM-ASS! IT BURNS!
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by fanoftheunderdogs on Oct 27, 2011 2:40 PM CDT up reply actions
Finding out what kind of people they really are.
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are you calling me a pratt hater?
"He's an amazing talent. He's probably the most explosive back since Marshall Faulk and Barry Sanders." - Eddie George, about CJ.
PRATT HATER!!!!1
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by fanoftheunderdogs on Oct 27, 2011 2:39 PM CDT up reply actions
The Saint cannot be hated!
"He's an amazing talent. He's probably the most explosive back since Marshall Faulk and Barry Sanders." - Eddie George, about CJ.
IT'S CALLED MCM LOGIC!!!!
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by fanoftheunderdogs on Oct 27, 2011 2:28 PM CDT up reply actions
You heard it here first: PRATT's Logic!
I’M IN ALL OF YOUR MINDS!!!!1
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except CJ has never played behind a great line...
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Don't you know what happens when you make an unrelated Vunce joke?!?!
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by fanoftheunderdogs on Oct 27, 2011 2:30 PM CDT up reply actions
Double trouble
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by Dynamic Dreadlocks on Oct 27, 2011 8:47 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
Here is an interesting article comparing CJ's struggles to Steven Jackson's struggles in 2008
Jackson also held out in 2008 for more money, missed most of training camp (7 days less than CJ), and struggled mightily out of the gate. He did finish the season pretty well, so here’s to hoping CJ can follow a similar path.
I don’t think CJ is seeing the whole field right now…he has missed a lot of cutback lanes and holes. Sure, the offensive line isn’t the best run blocking line, but that’s why you pay Chris Johnson the big bucks (since you can’t spend that money on the O-line now).
I am hoping CJ can turn it around…but I think the coaches need to start thinking outside of the box to get things going.
by shawneriksmith on Oct 27, 2011 1:04 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
Through 6 games in Steven Jackson's 2008 season, here are the stats:
121 Carries – 508 Yards – 4 TDs – 4.19 YPC
And, I’ll add, that was on a team that only won 2 games.
Yeah, you're right
The article that I tried linking to made it out to be Jackson really struggled…looking at the stats, he only had a couple of bad games.
Yeah, CJ sucks.
by shawneriksmith on Oct 27, 2011 1:28 PM CDT up reply actions
CJ IS THE SUXORS!!!1
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by fanoftheunderdogs on Oct 27, 2011 2:31 PM CDT up reply actions
yep, CJ´s 2011 is incomparable.
I was looking up stats from RBs behind bad OLs AND being the primary concern for the defenses, but the numbers are so humiliating to CJ that I just shied away of making that fanpost.
I am a CJ fan and am trying VERY hard to still support him, but it´s been harder each day.
"He's an amazing talent. He's probably the most explosive back since Marshall Faulk and Barry Sanders." - Eddie George, about CJ.
That is the thing, I (or we) have no reason to hate him! but there is literally nothing out there right now that supports him
as August and Jimmy said on MCMRadio, the NFL should be the best player plays, if you are under-performing consistently you get benched for someone playing better
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gotta keep him on the field
with our dearth of skill position talent. CJ as a decoy is more valuable the D-will and hawk combined.
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I agree. He must be on the field, even as a decoy.
"He's an amazing talent. He's probably the most explosive back since Marshall Faulk and Barry Sanders." - Eddie George, about CJ.
I've never gotten the impression that Scott was playing particularly better than our other interior linemen.
I think those other two just became the scapegoats for whatever reason. Scott is having just an awful season, too.
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by TennesseeTyrants on Oct 27, 2011 12:52 PM CDT reply actions
Enjoying retirement
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Nah not yet
forced retirement this season.
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Blount would be nice to
and i’m sure he makes league minimum.
From SI.com's All Underachieving Team article today:
Running back — Chris Johnson, Tennessee: Here’s all you really need to know about the guy who ran for 2,006 yards and had 2,509 yards from scrimmage as recently as 2009, but has smashed the dreams of fantasy owners everywhere this year: Among the NFL’s top 50 qualifying rushers, Johnson’s 2.9-yard average carry ranks 50th, and is almost two full yards behind his career average of 4.8
Mike Griffin made the list too….
by SuperHorn on Oct 27, 2011 1:13 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
SuperH's CJ hate is burning strong today.
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Today?
I saw comments last night that pissed me off. What else did he have to say today?
Not yet...
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I'm crossing my fingers that he's done talking...
(optimism) until he starts running like he should.
Vunce style?
I want front row seats this time
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Catch me a helmet this time.
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by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Oct 27, 2011 2:02 PM CDT up reply actions
maybe a grill
Dear CJ: How do I return my real fan card?
by asbestos_man on Oct 27, 2011 2:04 PM CDT up reply actions
Hopefully a Corvette!
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The only car you'd be getting from CJ, Pratt
Is this: 
"You play to win the game!"
by TitanNDCClothing on Oct 27, 2011 2:27 PM CDT up reply actions
Man, I hope not...
That could just be a freaking nightmare.
wyatt said as much this week on the radio
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his only source is jeff fisher, so it´s not accurate.
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by criollo_pcg on Oct 27, 2011 2:03 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
It's probably too much to ask that when it cracks
It will be a big run. I’m just hoping he won’t need to go to rehab.
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by asbestos_man on Oct 27, 2011 2:03 PM CDT up reply actions
Agreed, mine started yesterday with what he said on twitter... he needs to stop.
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Developing story
CJ’s girlfriend was interviewed by tmz and said that the football field isn’t the only place he has trouble hitting the hole. She goes further to say that CJ curses his O line with every failed attempt.
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by Titans_Firefighter on Oct 27, 2011 2:07 PM CDT up reply actions
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Cant believe I’m thanking a Jag’s fan for risking his life to get this pic.
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by Titans_Firefighter on Oct 27, 2011 2:09 PM CDT reply actions
Well
Guess it’s a good thing we are facing Indy. a Frustrated CJ + terrible Indy Defense = 250 yards and 3 td’s for CJ…right?
by white02slpss on Oct 27, 2011 2:24 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
CJ plays worse on positive thoughts...
that’s it! No more positive thoughts!!!!!1
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THE SEASON IS OVER
WE’RE GONNA GO 13-3!!!1
Wait, shit.
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by fanoftheunderdogs on Oct 27, 2011 2:29 PM CDT up reply actions
You've ruined any hope we had.
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Dont know if anybody has mentioned this today.
Reports are surfacing that T.O treid to commit suicide earlier this month. Considering the source TMZ, take it for what its worth. could explain why teams stayed away.
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by MexicanTitanFreak on Oct 27, 2011 2:36 PM CDT reply actions
Didn't he also try to commit suicide back in 2006?
What’s wrong with the guy?
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by fanoftheunderdogs on Oct 27, 2011 2:39 PM CDT up reply actions
Depression?
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I posted about the attempted suicide as I reason why I didn't want him in the infamous TO thread...
but I was sold by the guy above.
Whatevers! as long as he does it after we win the SuperBowlz!!!!!111<<<
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Jake Scott has always been a position blocker
Maybe now people are starting to realize this. He is another Kevin Mawae, except Kevin actually made line calls that were cruticial. We need to move on from our Guards and Centers while we still can. We have two bookend tackles that ( knock on wood ) should stay with us and produce for another 5 years. Let’s get them some competent reliable people to work with and we will be set…
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"while we still can"???
We can’t right now. Who do we move on to?
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Member of CJ Sucks Club. Brah is bad.
Velasco? That's the only name I can think of.
Why do people think NFL-caliber O-lineman grow on trees?
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by fanoftheunderdogs on Oct 27, 2011 3:29 PM CDT up reply actions
Are you serious?
People are in the NFL because they have that caliber. If you are in the NFL, you better produce. If you are starting, it’s because you have that caliber.
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^ This is what I meant.
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by fanoftheunderdogs on Oct 27, 2011 5:00 PM CDT up reply actions
Didn't mean immediately...
I know we can’t right now, we screwed the pooch for the situation this season… but I am saying we have got to address it in the offseason… it is crucial…
FYI ~ I would take Manuwai ( spell check ) over Leroy and Eugene and Scott, etc…
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I believe I know why CJ is not running hard.....
It has to be that his contract has a clause that if he gets hurt he won’t get paid! That’s the only reasonable solution I can think of that would cause him not to run hard! Because it looks like he is trying to avoid injury!
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