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Titans Blow A Golden Opportunity

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I have a feeling by the time this week is over I am going to wish we were still talking about the Titans signing Terrell Owens. That game that we just watched has to be the most disappointing performance from a Titans team in the past five years. They couldn't run the ball. They couldn't throw the ball. They couldn't stop the run. They couldn't stop the pass. Does that about cover it?

Arian Foster went over 100 yards rushing and receiving in this game. That is the first time a running back has done that against this franchise. Ever.

The Titans defense gave up 518 yards of total offense to the Texans. 518! I would say this looked like the Chuck Cecil defense of the past couple of years, but that would be an insult to the Chuck Cecil defenses of the last couple of years.

The Titans managed just 148 total yards of offense themselves. The leading receiver was Chris Johnson, who had 27 yards.

Rant here. More later.

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I've been reading some of the post game quaotes.

CJ is without mentioning names,throwing the offensive line under the bus. Now I know the line has not been up to par this year. But to I’m paraphrasing here " Im the same, I can only do what I can do". This is about to get ugly, everyone deserves blame. I would like to hear CJ own up to it and be a leader even if its not his fault. But hey- he gots da funds! He b good!

"Power corrupts. Absolute power is kind of neat."

by MexicanTitanFreak on Oct 23, 2011 4:09 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

You must have read what I posted...

CJ is selfish. For him to not take any of the blame shows what kind of teammate / man he is. It’s extemely disappointing…

CJ is stutter stepping sometimes, he is not hitting the holes hard, he is going backwards and making our losses even worse, etc.

Now I’m not saying it’s all CJs fault. I think the Oline is most to blame. But to have CJ use them (basically he inferred that) as a scapegoat Is complete garbage.

GO TITANS!!!

by RhiNo6705 on Oct 23, 2011 4:17 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

not yet, I've been reading quotes off twiiter

"Power corrupts. Absolute power is kind of neat."

by MexicanTitanFreak on Oct 23, 2011 4:20 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

yeah some person flamed me for saying " its about damn time "

give me a break. Teammates are never suppose to throw their teammates under the bus. That is bullshit. The people arguing this obviously never played the game of football. Your teammates are your brothers. For CJ to say none of this is his fault is the perfect definition of selfishness. Man up and grow a pair CJ.

GO TITANS!!!

by RhiNo6705 on Oct 23, 2011 4:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ben tate also rushed for 100 yards. Damian Williams, Hawkins are terrible. They should have looked harder for a wideout. Michael Griffin proved again his decline is no fluke

by CarlosLehder on Oct 23, 2011 4:14 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

Yeah...

The O-line definitely fumbled the ball, and either stopped dead in their tracks or started running backwards when they got the ball rather than using their God-given “faster than Usain Bolt in a 40” speed… oh wait…

by sm00thBlue on Oct 23, 2011 4:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

Agreed.

Griffin is not the same safety he was in 2007.

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by NJD28 on Oct 23, 2011 4:37 PM CDT via iPhone app up reply actions  

W.T.F. did I just watch

I don’t even have anything to say, it’s all just a blur of suckitude. Will have to rewatch (/cringe) to have anything to actually say

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by rothbard on Oct 23, 2011 4:15 PM CDT reply actions  

There is nothing to say

it was just:

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by StPrattrick on Oct 23, 2011 4:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

Was early season success on defense a facade?

I still have faith in Jerry Gray. Can’t say the same about the WR’s (D-Will & Hawk) and CJ

by Change on Oct 23, 2011 4:21 PM CDT reply actions  

From what I can remember of this game

it seemed like the defense played that whole damn time (if you want to call that playing)

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by rothbard on Oct 23, 2011 4:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

They played the whole time because they were getting thrashed.. literally

our offense absolutely sucked, don’t get me wrong. And they screwed the defense multiple times. but the defense 3/4 of the time knew that the run was coming and they just got demolished for 5-15 yard gains each and every time. It was sickening and literally a joke of a display of a national football league defense.

GO TITANS!!!

by RhiNo6705 on Oct 23, 2011 4:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

its one thing to drop passes...

But to be confused and not know where to line up or which route to run is uacceptable. Williams and Hawkins I’m looking at u! (They suck! They don’t deserve knick names)!

"Power corrupts. Absolute power is kind of neat."

by MexicanTitanFreak on Oct 23, 2011 4:26 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

I have given up on Williams and Hawkins after today. I was trying to hold out hope for them,

but they are either not talented enough or not ready to be starters. I was very concerned about Jerry Gray when Munchak first picked him up and then pleasantly surprised. His early success mirrors Cecil last year. Hopefully the last couple games are just an anomaly. But what concerns me is that all year we have been giving up lots of yards. The last two games, this finally caught up with us.

by eawee on Oct 23, 2011 4:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

Replace

Replace

CJ
All WRs (except britt/nate)
Amano/Harris
S. Marks
Ruud
Both griffin and hope/babineaux

by danomite on Oct 23, 2011 4:30 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

Leadership

Doesn’t mean dick when we are getting blown out every week

by danomite on Oct 23, 2011 4:33 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

reinfeldt win for limiting it to a one year deal

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by nolesbroncos3456 on Oct 23, 2011 4:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

denial

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by stetix01 on Oct 23, 2011 10:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

it must be

the Bucs fans said this when i asked about him right when we got him

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by Ice0ne (CAJ) on Oct 23, 2011 10:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

Not ready to dump CJ

We need to utilize him better

It's all fun and games until someone gets a concussion from a stray flying footbal. *cough* Kerry *cough*

by MikeGriffFan27 on Oct 23, 2011 9:52 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

i'd gladlyfull dump the whole O-line

except Stew and Roos before i dump CJ

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by Ice0ne (CAJ) on Oct 23, 2011 10:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

Btw

I’ve never seen moral at LP so low. It was fucking pathetic. Complete dumpster fire. Boooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!

We suck

by danomite on Oct 23, 2011 4:31 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

Reality check boys

We really are in rebuilding mode

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by rothbard on Oct 23, 2011 4:33 PM CDT reply actions  

Indeed

How long does munch survive if we continue to get killed? He just doesn’t seem to have fire

by danomite on Oct 23, 2011 4:34 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

at least another year or 2

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by rothbard on Oct 23, 2011 4:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah.

Short offseason. Contract dispute with star RB. New QB. New Offense. New Defense.

The product we saw today is closer to what I expected coming out of the preseason. There’s a lot going on right now.

by SuperHorn on Oct 23, 2011 4:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

I just hop Matt doesn't get thrown under the bus for this

I would hate to see Locker come in and have to deal with these WRs and TEs. His confidence would tank and we will have to draft a brand new QB because Jake can’t trust his receivers and his protections and he will turn into David Carr.

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by NJD28 on Oct 23, 2011 4:44 PM CDT via iPhone app up reply actions  

Well we already won three games and I didn't think we would win more for the season. Munchack gets leeway for a while.

The problem is that we started the season better than the offseason would have predicted. Now we are crashing back to earth.

by eawee on Oct 23, 2011 4:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

yup

looking back, the Ravens game was a lie. everything else makes sense. sucked @ Jax, got out-sucked by denver, cleveland is cleveland, sucked at Pitt and today.

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by hal41605 on Oct 23, 2011 4:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

9-7

Unrealistic at this point? I think it is

by danomite on Oct 23, 2011 4:42 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

5-11

We beat Jax and Indy once, lose all others

Oh hai MCM

by Dagger22 on Oct 23, 2011 5:10 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

I think it is safe to say that both the Hawk and DWill

Suck. This team was just exposed for our glaring weaknesses in the trenches, receiver, and tight end position. As much as Cook intrigues me, he is far to inconsistent for a defense to take seriously as a down field threat. The same goes for DWill and Hawk. I don’t believe this team will sniff the playoffs this year barring a miraculous turnaround in the passing and running game.

We are not getting pressure on the QB. We can’t win in today’s NFL without getting to the QB. We have a lot of work to do before we can even start aspiring about the playoffs.

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by NJD28 on Oct 23, 2011 4:33 PM CDT via iPhone app reply actions  

Ok so CJ

Honestly what do we do with him? What are options? Trade later? Release after season? Pay cut? Draft RB? Fucking my head is spinning…

by danomite on Oct 23, 2011 4:38 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

we are stuck this year

rebuild the o-line and hope a real offseason and the horrible taste in his mouth from this season gets him back to normal. lighten his workload so as not to waste him on a lost cause. and hope. and pray.

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by hal41605 on Oct 23, 2011 4:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

I say we trade him to Miami

Now they will have their speed back they thought Reggie Bush would be.

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by NJD28 on Oct 23, 2011 5:01 PM CDT via iPhone app up reply actions  

i think that's pretty drastic

probably would be a cap nightmare because the whole signing bonus would count at once instead of spreading it out.

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by hal41605 on Oct 23, 2011 5:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

I may be wrong,

but I believe his signing bonus is 10 mil and 2012 base salary would be 8 mil. If we cut him I believe we take an 8 mil cap hit, but we would be saving 8 mil salary plus 2 mil cap hit from bonus for a total cap hit of 10 mil. If we are sure he sucks at that point, I think it may be better to take an 8 mil cap hit for no one rather than a 10 mil cap hit for a crappy player. Again I believe these numbers are correct but I may be wrong.

by eawee on Oct 23, 2011 5:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

I agree if we are talking now.

I think he still has decent trade value. But if he plays the second half like the first half, we may not be able to trade him. Under that situation, should we keep a crappy player and pay him a ton of money, or cut him? I think it is in our best interest to cut him.

by eawee on Oct 23, 2011 5:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

2012 CJ = $8m + $2m proration

so it’s a $2m savings (have to take $8m acceleration on $10m bonus) to cut him before next season starts. Not saying it’s a good idea or not, but the money situation is sort of a wash.

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by rothbard on Oct 23, 2011 7:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

get him a new O-line

i don’t care if we put in different guys when we do run plays do something up front, time to call on Velasco, Durand, and Matthews

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by Ice0ne (CAJ) on Oct 23, 2011 10:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

bench cj

We got to pay him either way right? Let’s see if ringer or harper given max oppertunity can do any better running behind this o line. Id rather him get paid to do nothing than get paid to run for 18 yards and waste carries for our other rbs. Just my opinion.

by AZ TiTan10 on Oct 23, 2011 4:43 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

I'd like to see what Harper has

CJ just isn’t gettin it done at this point.

As crazy as it sounds, I’m all for it. Maybe sitting his ass will motivate him, I thought the money would but I guess not

by Big Bad Bulluck on Oct 23, 2011 5:32 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

cj was motovated to get paid

He measures his “greatness” by how much money he has… we aren’t dealing with a Larry Fitzgerald kind of player. In CJs mind, what else does he need to be great for?

by AZ TiTan10 on Oct 23, 2011 6:13 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

On the positive side, we're still a young team with a new HC, OC, and DC

The first few games of the season kind of spoiled us, I think. This was, at the beginning of the season, a rebuilding year. I had expectations of 6-10, but then we came out pretty hot out of the gate with the Ravens win. We have a solid foundation, we’ll just have to give it some time for the team to bring in the personnel that will fit the systems Gray and Palmer have put in place. That and keep Britt healthy, naturally. At worst, there’s no way we could play any worse from here on out.

Heads up, the future is bright, even though these last two games have been horrid.

by FYNBYAC on Oct 23, 2011 5:13 PM CDT reply actions  

Wondering if it was doing too many of same offensive plays?

I noticed that they ran many of the same screens and play sequences from earlier games. Running the same plays can get you through the first few games, but lack of variety into the heart of the season makes you predicable, and less effective. CLEARLY CJ and the receiving corps did not play well. Thinking the play selection did not help. This could be a symptom of a new coaching staff and new qb. Thoughts?

by ChattTitansFan on Oct 23, 2011 5:13 PM CDT reply actions  

We expected too much after the smoke and mirrors first 4 games

This is reality. We are rebuilding and trying to be a perennial contender of the future. I mean a lot of this personnel was drafted for FIsherball. Change is gonna be hard but if we stay the course maybe we will become a respectable franchise some day soon.

What's our record?
3 and 3
How'd we ever win 3?

by AntiguanTitan on Oct 23, 2011 5:21 PM CDT reply actions  

This is the most

The most disappointing game I’ve seen in 5 weeks…

I miss Kenny Britt so much…

I also miss Stephen Tulloch a lot!!!

by Big Bad Bulluck on Oct 23, 2011 5:31 PM CDT reply actions   2 recs

I miss Kenny and Tulloch too

why does no one believe me when i say that tulloch was better than ruud, Atleast Tullcoh never got ran over, and they are the same in the pass coverage game.

i think the only reason we don’t bench ruud is because he calls the audibles and plays on the D

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by Ice0ne (CAJ) on Oct 23, 2011 10:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

Why are you so convinced that you're the only one saying that?

I didn’t want Tulloch to leave initially and have been pretty critical of Ruud. SuperHorn blames Ruud for the world hunger and homelessness, I think.

"Do the Titans have a miracle left in them in what has been a magical season to this point? If they do, they need it now. Christie kicks it high and short. Gonna be fielded by Lorenzo Neal at the 25; he dishes it back to Wycheck; he throws it across the field to Dyson. 30, 40, 50, 40, 30, 20, 10, 5, endzone...touchdown, Titans! There are no flags on the field! It's a miracle! Tennessee has pulled a miracle! A miracle for the Titans!"

by TennesseeTyrants on Oct 24, 2011 6:32 AM CDT up reply actions  

Noboby says Ruud is better than Tulloch

You gotta back it down holmes

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by gramsey712 on Oct 24, 2011 8:43 AM CDT up reply actions  

in fact,

i think it would be an awesome thing for munch to have a mic brought out to mid-field after every piss poor home game performance and let each player one by one walk out and apologize to all the fans. we could all just stick around for a half hr or so after the game. maybe that would be enough embarrassment to give them some motivation. and it might almost equal the embarrassment i feel for being a titans fan today.

by Champcc1 on Oct 23, 2011 6:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

i think it takes a lot of energy

to suck that bad.

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by stetix01 on Oct 23, 2011 7:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

No excuse for the lack of effort today

I can excuse losing because it happens, but the effort on both sides of the ball just didn’t seem there at all.

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by Dynamic Dreadlocks on Oct 23, 2011 6:56 PM CDT reply actions  

That stadium needs to be EMPTY for the rest of the year

No need spending 100’s of dollars to watch a bunch of suck and fail.

by BadV6Blazer on Oct 23, 2011 7:03 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

That was the first time I have ever gotten back to my car in time to hear the end of the game on the radio

And I have never felt so depressed walking out of that stadium.

They could at least have shown up. I did.

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by gramsey712 on Oct 23, 2011 7:16 PM CDT reply actions  

Once again, not surprised by this loss, but I am surprised by how bad the loss was.

Another total beat down, continued from the Pitt. game. I can see what Vegas thinks of this team in the lines that it put out the last two weeks. The Titans need to turn this thing around quick or it’s gonna be like last year after the bye if they don’t watch.

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by SiriusTitansFan on Oct 23, 2011 7:33 PM CDT reply actions  

Today sucked

I haven’t even brought myself to read any of the game threads or the other comments in post game threads.

I made the ~3 hour trip to Nashville, same ~3 hour trip back, used a tank of gas, and dropped $60 on a ticket for that performance.

I’ve never been so upset with a Titans team.

"Do the Titans have a miracle left in them in what has been a magical season to this point? If they do, they need it now. Christie kicks it high and short. Gonna be fielded by Lorenzo Neal at the 25; he dishes it back to Wycheck; he throws it across the field to Dyson. 30, 40, 50, 40, 30, 20, 10, 5, endzone...touchdown, Titans! There are no flags on the field! It's a miracle! Tennessee has pulled a miracle! A miracle for the Titans!"

by TennesseeTyrants on Oct 23, 2011 7:47 PM CDT reply actions  

I nearly coughed up 100+ for a ticket for this game.

Thank you sweet Jesus that I didn’t. I feel sorry for each and every Titans fan in attendence today, they deserved to see better than that … as did those watching on TV … just a depressing effort

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by Dynamic Dreadlocks on Oct 23, 2011 11:12 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Does anyone know who...

Hasselback was telling to “Do your fucking job” (At least it looked that way on TV)

It happened about 10 minute left in the 3rd if I remember correctly, and it looked like he was yelling it to the sidelines…

Anyone hear about or read about what that was all about?

by TNTitan09 on Oct 23, 2011 10:50 PM CDT reply actions  

They wonder why they didn't sell out every game in an hour this year?

Outside of the lockout/bad economy, fear of seeing this type of performance is your answer why. I was extremely pissed at half, but after half it just turned into depression and sadness. The perfect year to win the AFC South, and we’re essentially screwed at this point being 0-2 in the division. Please play better and soon, Titans. The fans who pay good money to see you play deserve better than a 41 to 7 loss. I feel like ranting like that Redskins radio guy did last year after their loss to the Eagles on MNF, but there’s nothing else left to say.

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by Dynamic Dreadlocks on Oct 23, 2011 11:16 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

Titans Blow

That should be the headline.

by franklintitan on Oct 23, 2011 11:39 PM CDT reply actions  

Here's my rant - short version

I have followed the Titans since they came to Tennessee. When I was in Nashville, I tried to attend every game I could get tickets for. Otherwise, I watched the games on TV, the internet, listened on the radio. Living out of the country, I pay out the nose for DirectTV just to watch the game. I have gotten up in the middle of the night to watch games when I was in Europe and Kuwait. In other words, I have followed every game, live, for more than a decade. I own all types of Titans crap. I am just like every one of you. Except I can’t take it any more. I will DVR the games and watch the good ones. I won’t spend another Sunday watching crap like what was served up yesterday. This stinks.

by FaninEcuador on Oct 24, 2011 8:04 AM CDT reply actions  

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