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NFL Trade Rumors: Brandon Lloyd a Fit for the Titans?

So smash posted last night that there is a rumor that the Tennessee Titans are interested in Brandon Lloyd. This trade possibility, like any other, comes down to what the price is going to be. The rumor is that they are asking anywhere from a 3rd to a 5th. If the Titans could get this done for a 5th it is a no-brainer. I would still probably jump at it for a 4th. A 3rd would make me pause for a minute, but I think I would still do it.

People trying to talk about how Brandon Lloyd isn't that good crack me up. You do realize that we are talking about replacing Damian Williams and/or Lavelle Hawkins, right?

I know people love the Hawk, but come on. He isn't a good NFL receiver.

I do take a pause on sitting D-Will down because he has some potential, but the Titans can't count on him right now.

Lloyd is not the greatest receiver in the world, but he is better than anyone the Titans currently have on the active roster not named Nate Washington (and I bet that is a close one).

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Gramsey wants to tell me that his numbers don't count as much because some of them are in junk time or because the Broncos throw the ball so much. So what? Production is production. I would be willing to bet that Hawkins or D-Will wouldn't have put up numbers that good in any system.

Jim Wyatt doesn't think Lloyd is a good fit because he thinks they need a physical receiver.  That sounds all well and good, but there isn't one of those available.

Things have gone decently for the offense since Kenny Britt went down, but they still need another weapon. I hope Mike Reinfeldt can pull the trigger on this deal for anything lower than a 3rd.

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by gramsey712 on Oct 14, 2011 9:00 AM CDT reply actions  

But why are the Broncos getting rid of him?

They are 1-4 and he is their top receiver. Decker is the leading scorer and close in yards, but the two of them make up 50% of the team receiving. Keep in mind that Lloyd missed the Cincy game, so he’s one game behind Decker and still leading him in yards. That sounds like they are in the SuckForLuck boat, but in the express lane if they release Lloyd….which is dumb.

Lloyd only has one good season, so maybe they know he is still hot. His lack of touchdowns in 4 games probably has lowered the reward they hoped they could get for him, so they are unloading him before he bombs (maybe that’s what they’re thinking). Still sounds fishy. Is he a terrible distraction in practice? Wasn’t he the one that threw a fit at the beginning of last season?

I like the decision of bringing him here, and I think Thorchak would shove a hammer up his ass if he acted up. BUT it really does sound odd that the Broncos are giving up on one of their main weapons.

by HitMan83 on Oct 14, 2011 9:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

"and are trying to sell high"

Cause they know he will never replicate what he did last year

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by gramsey712 on Oct 14, 2011 9:57 AM CDT up reply actions  

especially not with Tebow

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by rothbard on Oct 14, 2011 9:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

So "sell high" seems to be the point.

I didn’t think about the QB change affecting it, but could very well be an issue too. I still think we could use him.

by HitMan83 on Oct 14, 2011 10:00 AM CDT up reply actions  

They also got demyrius thomas

He has been injured since being drafted but from what i hear they like him a bunch and he is returning after the bye. Decent floer for fantasy in my oponion but does depend on how deep your league is.

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by tiMe toCks on Oct 14, 2011 9:07 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

He sucks. Reinfeldt is too smart for this.

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by gramsey712 on Oct 14, 2011 9:08 AM CDT reply actions  

So we are laughable just because we don't want to give up draft picks for a mediocre receiver?

Meh. ONE good year so far in his career doesn’t make him worth the draft picks. I’d be willing to be we could use that 3rd rounder on a reciever that could have 1 good year in his entire career.

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by BonzosMontreaux on Oct 14, 2011 9:10 AM CDT reply actions  

Yep...drafting receivers has worked out really well for the Titans

Let’s stick with that. Remember all of the Pro Bowl receivers we picked up in the 3rd round?

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by Jimmy on Oct 14, 2011 9:11 AM CDT up reply actions  

Lloyd is not exactly pro bowl caliber

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by gramsey712 on Oct 14, 2011 9:13 AM CDT up reply actions  

well he went to the Pro Bowl just last year

so yeah, I guess he is

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by madhjsp on Oct 14, 2011 9:17 AM CDT up reply actions  

(So did Chris Johnson)

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by gramsey712 on Oct 14, 2011 9:20 AM CDT up reply actions  

And he's a Pro Bowl RB

If you’re saying Lloyd is as good a WR as CJ is a RB we should be trading a 2nd.

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by AntiguanTitan on Oct 14, 2011 9:42 AM CDT up reply actions  

Chris Johnson is going to the pro bowl this year?

You and I have very different definitions of “pro bowl caliber”

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by gramsey712 on Oct 14, 2011 9:43 AM CDT up reply actions  

Three years. Three pro bowls.

And this season somehow stops making him pro-bowl caliber? He’s having a bad year but unless he strings two of these together he’s still pro-bowl caliber.

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by AntiguanTitan on Oct 14, 2011 9:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

Not to me

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by gramsey712 on Oct 14, 2011 9:46 AM CDT up reply actions  

I won't get on the Ruud hate train

But I am on the play McCarthy train!

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by gramsey712 on Oct 14, 2011 10:56 AM CDT up reply actions  

Booo come on Gramsey!

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by Ice0ne (CAJ) on Oct 14, 2011 11:05 AM CDT up reply actions  

Not right now

I think “pro bowl caliber” applies to that current season. Right now, CJ isn’t there. A few weeks of great performances and he’ll be right back in that mix. But not right now.

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by sami426 on Oct 14, 2011 9:48 AM CDT up reply actions  

CJ is...

Not playing pro bowl caliber play, but he is pro bowl caliber. To me caliber includes potential. Only 3 backs will make the pro bowl but there are others that are pro bowl caliber.

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Apparently

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by gramsey712 on Oct 14, 2011 9:22 AM CDT up reply actions  

Not to mention dude wouldn't play until week 10 and catch maybe 15 passes in 6 games.

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by gramsey712 on Oct 14, 2011 9:22 AM CDT up reply actions  

Wait, why wouldn't he play until week 10?

Or am I missing the snark?

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by sami426 on Oct 14, 2011 9:24 AM CDT up reply actions  

Just speculating how long it would take him to learn the playbook and get in the game

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by gramsey712 on Oct 14, 2011 9:25 AM CDT up reply actions  

ah, gotcha

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by sami426 on Oct 14, 2011 9:25 AM CDT up reply actions  

Avery has been in the games

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by rothbard on Oct 14, 2011 9:27 AM CDT up reply actions  

He has the same number of touchdowns this season as Lloyd!

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by gramsey712 on Oct 14, 2011 9:27 AM CDT up reply actions  

no he doesn't

Multiply Avery’s by 10 and thats how many TDS Lloyd has

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by Ice0ne (CAJ) on Oct 14, 2011 10:46 AM CDT up reply actions  

True

The crazy thing about it is, you can multiply Lloyd’s by 1,000 and he has the same number as Avery!

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by gramsey712 on Oct 14, 2011 10:57 AM CDT up reply actions  

Saying he isn't good is dumb

You might not think he is as good as his numbers, but he is a good player, and better than anyone the Titans have drafted in the last 10 years at receiver not named Britt, Kenny

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by Jimmy on Oct 14, 2011 9:23 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Damian Williams has more touchdowns than he does this season

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by gramsey712 on Oct 14, 2011 9:24 AM CDT up reply actions  

Damian Williams isn't a huge threat in the eyes of other DC's

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by sami426 on Oct 14, 2011 9:25 AM CDT up reply actions  

Llyod = 26 career TDs Hawkins = 0 TD IN FOUR YEARS

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by rothbard on Oct 14, 2011 9:26 AM CDT up reply actions  

Lloyd 0 touchdowns this year on 19 catches

If we want to give up a 5th fine, but giving up a 3rd is desperate insanity

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by gramsey712 on Oct 14, 2011 9:27 AM CDT up reply actions  

Damian Williams and Lavelle Hawkins only have 20 receptions combined this season. Hawkins has 30 over career. They are boo boo

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And llyod is being outscored by decker because he gets all the double teams. Either way it helps nate Washington and brandon llyod if they are both here

by CarlosLehder on Oct 14, 2011 9:35 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

No matter how good he is, he stretches the field

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by sami426 on Oct 14, 2011 9:24 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'm sorry, doesn't his career stats show he isn't good?

What makes last season anything other than a statistical outlier at this point?

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by BonzosMontreaux on Oct 14, 2011 9:37 AM CDT up reply actions  

Then he's also better than Nate, and Nate's production this year is a statistical outlier

So what?

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by rothbard on Oct 14, 2011 9:41 AM CDT up reply actions  

Nate Washington this year? yes.

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by StPrattrick on Oct 14, 2011 10:49 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'd say if you were even considering trading anything for him you'd have to be confident he would continue to have a good year

or else we wouldn’t even be having the discussion.

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by StPrattrick on Oct 14, 2011 10:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

But what makes everyone confident that Lloyd will be as good as last year?

As oppose to his other 6 years in the league?

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by BonzosMontreaux on Oct 14, 2011 10:57 AM CDT up reply actions  

because he doesn't need to be nearly that good to be an upgrade?

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by hal41605 on Oct 14, 2011 11:00 AM CDT up reply actions  

Right

and I would say it’s part of his progression into becoming a better WR.

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by StPrattrick on Oct 14, 2011 11:01 AM CDT up reply actions  

who else on that offense was anyone worried about?

he was making catches, big catches, and lots of them as the sole source of attention for the defense in the passing game. has to mean something good.

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by hal41605 on Oct 14, 2011 11:04 AM CDT up reply actions  

Big catches - is the thing I am looking for

because as of right now, we don’t have any receivers, save for Hands, that can make catches in general

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by StPrattrick on Oct 14, 2011 11:09 AM CDT up reply actions  

asinine

those guys have done less than zero in comparison.

1400+ yards doesn’t just happen out of nowhere. hawk won’t even be on the field 150 times, let alone targeted.

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by hal41605 on Oct 14, 2011 11:13 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Except it did happen out of nowhere.

Nothing in his career suggests otherwise. I think if you put DWill in for 150 targets hed put up some decent stats.

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by BonzosMontreaux on Oct 14, 2011 11:16 AM CDT up reply actions  

I really really really doubt this

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by StPrattrick on Oct 14, 2011 11:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

at least he did it

or anything at all, ever in Hawk’s case. i also see no indication that D-Will is much of anything at this point either. i’ll take a guy who’s been there and done something over zero impact guys like hawk. d-will might become a decent justin gage impersonator one day, so at least there’s that.

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by hal41605 on Oct 14, 2011 11:22 AM CDT up reply actions  

That is ridiculous

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by StPrattrick on Oct 14, 2011 11:18 AM CDT up reply actions  

72 first downs

it’s not like defenses didn’t know where the ball was going.

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by hal41605 on Oct 14, 2011 11:11 AM CDT up reply actions  

I just can't get behind it.

I can’t say “I want to trade a 3rd round pick for someone mediocre”

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by BonzosMontreaux on Oct 14, 2011 11:09 AM CDT up reply actions  

No way... I am not on it for a 3rd round pick

4th is high enough for me, but a 5th sounds nice.

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by StPrattrick on Oct 14, 2011 11:10 AM CDT up reply actions  

Drew Bennett.

UDFA. He had his “Brandon Lloyd” year in 2004.

by SuperHorn on Oct 14, 2011 9:44 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'm confused by this argument.

We’ve never drafted good mid-round receivers, so we should stop trying? I also don’t think its all that relevant to look back on our decade of futility at the receiver position, considering this organization has gone through a lot of change in the past few years.

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by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Oct 14, 2011 10:24 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yes, we should please stop trying to get mid round receivers

IMO they are a waste of a pick and we do not know how to properly judge talent in mid rounds for WRs
Either aim high, or draft low. Please.

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by StPrattrick on Oct 14, 2011 10:26 AM CDT up reply actions  

I can't get on board with this.

It’ll be extremely hard to build a team with only first round or seventh round receivers.

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by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Oct 14, 2011 10:33 AM CDT up reply actions  

Actually I think it would be significantly easier to build a team filled with 1st and 2nd round WRs

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by StPrattrick on Oct 14, 2011 10:36 AM CDT up reply actions  

Ya, assuming all other positions are filled.

Having the luxury of drafting receivers high is great, if you’re willing to neglect all the other positions.

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by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Oct 14, 2011 10:38 AM CDT up reply actions  

Well (assuming these WRs are can't miss prospects) all it would take is 2 drafts tops to get this accomplished

so it’s not like we’d be selling the farm every year.

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by StPrattrick on Oct 14, 2011 10:50 AM CDT up reply actions  

First round receivers still probably bust at around 50% of the time.

The bust percentage increases as the rounds increase, but its certainly not that simple to say, just grab two first round receivers and be done with it.

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by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Oct 14, 2011 10:54 AM CDT up reply actions  

First or second

and i would never draft back to back first round receivers IMO

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by StPrattrick on Oct 14, 2011 10:56 AM CDT up reply actions  

Exactly.

Which is why you have to look at mid round receivers.

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by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Oct 14, 2011 11:06 AM CDT up reply actions  

Nope, with our luck abandon all hope

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by StPrattrick on Oct 14, 2011 11:08 AM CDT up reply actions  

Bust percentage per draft round posting =

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by rothbard on Oct 14, 2011 12:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

yeah that worked well for the Lions

Charles “broken clavicle drug suspension” Rogers, Roy “at least I’m not that other Roy” Williams, skip, and 300 pound Mike Wiliams first round receivers are the bomb.

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by asbestos_man on Oct 14, 2011 1:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

.... this is the Lions we are talking about.

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by StPrattrick on Oct 14, 2011 1:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

just saying

and picks are only worth what you end up getting for them. given that this is an opportunity cost discussion, the past would say that our opportunity cost on this would be relatively low. look at our 3-4th round picks over the last few years. not much to write home about. and we will get an extra 3rd for Babin, so that has to figure in here too.

18.8 yards per reception over that many catches is legit, i don’t care who does it.

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by hal41605 on Oct 14, 2011 10:29 AM CDT up reply actions  

I agree with Hal

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I know we are actually arguing for the same thing

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by StPrattrick on Oct 14, 2011 12:14 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

promotions all around

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don't slight ATV

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by asbestos_man on Oct 14, 2011 1:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

it’s worth a single draft pick though. especially because we know what we’re getting.

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by Evanbio on Oct 14, 2011 9:18 AM CDT up reply actions  

this is exactly what I was thinking- but the jam at WR would be substantial

if this happened, I’d like to see Avery or Hawk (or both) traded to a team like Minnesota that needs receivers for draft picks down the line. something that people don’t really understand here is that this man led the NFL in receiving yards last year… with an awful broncos offense. That has to amount for something, especially since the the WR corps we currently have is not very strong (OK, pretty bad) without Kenny Britt

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Hard to imagine Avery as a trade chip

He was unsigned a couple weeks ago and hasn’t done anything that makes him a viable trade option for us

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by sami426 on Oct 14, 2011 9:17 AM CDT up reply actions  

Hope we don't consider giving up a 3rd rounder

a 5th rounder yeah why not, but he is 30 and has had only ONE great season.

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THIS JUST IN!!!!!

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/10/14/speculation-surfaces-that-colts-could-move-reggie-wayne-robert-mathis/

Adam Schefter is speculating that it may be a good idea for the Colts to trade Reggie Wayne.

My interpretation is that this clearly will happen. Why don’t we get Wayne? We can offer Schefter a 3rd round pick.

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Schefter is a reporter...he doesn't get draft picks

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by rothbard on Oct 14, 2011 9:24 AM CDT up reply actions  

Never ever happen

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by gramsey712 on Oct 14, 2011 9:26 AM CDT up reply actions  

hey! we gave them collins didnt we?

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by stetix01 on Oct 14, 2011 10:23 AM CDT up reply actions  

It's not even a real story

Why the F are they reporting a fake story?

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by asbestos_man on Oct 14, 2011 1:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't have a problem with getting him for a 5th rounder. I'm not as happy about spending a 3rd rounder.

Either way, this bye week SUCKS compared to last year. :(

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Lloyd had the 6th highest DVOA in the league last year, if it matters

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by rothbard on Oct 14, 2011 9:36 AM CDT reply actions  

On 152 passes thrown to him....in which his catch rate was only 51%

152!

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by gramsey712 on Oct 14, 2011 9:37 AM CDT up reply actions  

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Gramsey wants to tell me that his numbers don’t count as much because some of them are in junk time or because the Broncos throw the ball so much.

No. His numbers don’t count much because he’s a one year wonder, largely considered a washout until last year.

I’ll be screaming bloody murder if we give up a 3rd for Lloyd. It’s not worth it. He’s a flash in the pan.

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Our entire WR corps is made of one hit wonders or worse

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by rothbard on Oct 14, 2011 9:42 AM CDT up reply actions  

3rd seems to high

4th or 5th with or w/o a player would be better

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by rothbard on Oct 14, 2011 9:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

Wow, the Lloyd hate is running strong

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by rothbard on Oct 14, 2011 10:06 AM CDT up reply actions  

Has anyone bothered to look at Lloyd's track record?

This isn’t hate. It’s reality. Edwards has been far more consistent/productive.

by SuperHorn on Oct 14, 2011 10:10 AM CDT up reply actions  

Dude has 4 catches this year

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by rothbard on Oct 14, 2011 12:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

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by rothbard on Oct 14, 2011 12:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

who gives a damn as long as he makes plays.

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by danielreese05 on Oct 14, 2011 6:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

then we should sign TO immediately

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by rothbard on Oct 15, 2011 10:23 AM CDT up reply actions  

Or Cotchery. Or Derrick Mason.

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by gramsey712 on Oct 14, 2011 10:06 AM CDT up reply actions  

if it was more than 11 games i'd do a 4th

lloyd + britt + nate would be lovely

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by hal41605 on Oct 14, 2011 9:44 AM CDT up reply actions  

Dunno that we'd be having this discussion with Britt in the picture still

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by sami426 on Oct 14, 2011 9:46 AM CDT up reply actions  

or peyton manning, to be honest

that neck injury has made the playoffs possible in a year where we should really be rebuilding.

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by hal41605 on Oct 14, 2011 9:48 AM CDT up reply actions  

Our division has been ridiculous this year

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by sami426 on Oct 14, 2011 9:49 AM CDT up reply actions  

Somehow Hands turned to be good this year with new staff and Hasselbeck

Why couldn’t Lloyd? He’s already demonstrated that it is at least possible for him to be good.

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by rothbard on Oct 14, 2011 10:02 AM CDT up reply actions  

Why not just stick Cook in at WR permanently?

He’s been equally productive as Lloyd this year on 2/3 as many targets. Can I also add that a large contingency of this fanbase thinks he’s the second coming of Ben Troupe?

Cook – 22 Targets – 11 Catches – 208 yards – 1 TD
Lloyd – 33 Targes – 19 Catches – 289 Yards – 0 TDs

by SuperHorn on Oct 14, 2011 10:14 AM CDT up reply actions  

Interesting

I wouldn’t mind having him as a slot receiver at all.

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by sami426 on Oct 14, 2011 10:17 AM CDT up reply actions  

While were on that subject...

can someone skool me real quick?

Am I close on these definitiions?

  1. NFL WRs = large, physical, stretch the field, go-up-and-get-it
  2. NFL WRs = not as large, fast, in the slot, slant runners
  3. NFL WRs = not as fast, “possession”, TEs & Kick Returners
  4. NFL WRs = HBs outta the backfield

And we can’t have more than one of each on the field at a time?

by swells on Oct 14, 2011 10:43 AM CDT up reply actions  

lets see

NFL WRs:
Possession Wrs: Big, not as fast as speed WRs, but stronger and have a high vertical. Good hands. yards after the catch are stiff arms and running over the defender. Example Plaxico Buress, Andre Johnson

Speed WRs: Usually small, but extremely fast WRs hands are sometimes questionable, deep threats. Also special teams returners. yards after the catch are juking and speed.: Example Desean Jackson

Slot Wrs: can be small and quick, not necessarily fast, shifty great routes runners. security blanket on 3rd down. yard after the catch are by jukes. Example Wes Welker

Balanced WRs: A Wr that does everything well, but is not at the level of a Freak WR yet. Good speed, tall great vertical, good route running, can play in the slot and the outside, can get yards after the catch. Example: Kenny Britt

Freak Wrs: Fast Wrs who are also Big and Tall, great Vertical, great hands, good speed, strong. Yards after the catch can be running faster, or running over the defender as well as using the stiff arm. Example Calvin Johnson

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by Ice0ne (CAJ) on Oct 14, 2011 11:00 AM CDT up reply actions  

Thanks.

Now, substitute our guys names in and see where we’re missing.

by swells on Oct 14, 2011 11:04 AM CDT up reply actions  

Alright starting

Possession: potentially Cook, KB

Speed: Avery, Nate

SLot: Lavelle, D-Will, Mariani, Nate

Balanced: KB

Freak: KB potentially

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by Ice0ne (CAJ) on Oct 14, 2011 11:10 AM CDT up reply actions  

How 'bout -

Possession: ______________
Speed: Washington, Mariani
Slot: _______________
Balanced: Britt
Freak: ___________
???: That leaves, Avery, Hawkins & Wiliams – all 6’(ish)/190(ish). As is Brandon Lloyd.

 My point (if I have one) is this, the majority of our guys our sub-meh. We don’t do jack in the WR development department. How’d we get in this situation in the first place? Maybe Munch’s calling out DWill is the newlook Titan WR development program…

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i think mines better ':P, lol

Avery is speed, and mariani isn’t speed, hes a slot
as well as d-will

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by Ice0ne (CAJ) on Oct 14, 2011 6:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hmmmmm

Possession: Jared Cook

Speed: Marc Mariani, Donnie Avery

Slot: Damian Williams, Lavelle Hawkins

Balanced: Nate Washington (closest fit to this category)

Freak: Kenny Britt, if he can stay on the field.

Now, if we got Brandon Lloyd, I’d fit him in either Balanced or Slot.

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by fanoftheunderdogs on Oct 14, 2011 2:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

Calvin Johnson = Kenny Britt without injuries

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by fanoftheunderdogs on Oct 15, 2011 12:07 AM CDT up reply actions  

they play the same positions

so you see…

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by asbestos_man on Oct 14, 2011 1:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's what I said!! and everyone said it was stupid.

He’s the same size as Megatron + 10 pounds.
Makes some damn good catches when the ball is placed outside of his frame.
Doesn’t really have the speed to stretch the field, but can get open because his power will beat and corner lined up with him

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by StPrattrick on Oct 14, 2011 10:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

This is a fantastic idea.

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by TennesseeTyrants on Oct 14, 2011 10:42 AM CDT up reply actions  

This

is what I’ve been saying since the day we drafted him

by -Erock on Oct 14, 2011 4:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

I bet if we threw at Damian Williams 152 times in one season

He catches 55-60 balls

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by gramsey712 on Oct 14, 2011 10:04 AM CDT up reply actions  

51% completion doesn't mean he dropped 49%

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by rothbard on Oct 14, 2011 10:07 AM CDT up reply actions  

I never said it did

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by gramsey712 on Oct 14, 2011 10:10 AM CDT up reply actions  

Football outsiders says he had 152 passes thrown at him

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by gramsey712 on Oct 14, 2011 10:10 AM CDT up reply actions  

50% of the time

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by gramsey712 on Oct 14, 2011 12:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

50% of the the time it works every time

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by StPrattrick on Oct 14, 2011 12:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

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by ronburgundy7427 on Oct 14, 2011 6:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

But it has pheromones ladies can not resist!

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by StPrattrick on Oct 14, 2011 7:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

Works for me

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by rothbard on Oct 14, 2011 12:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

Isn't that good, especially since he had your favorite QB throwing him the ball?

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by rothbard on Oct 14, 2011 12:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't understand this argument.

You can either praise someone like you do or say “Well he was the primary target so naturally he got some stats.”

What do you honestly think DWill or Hawkins would have stat-wise on 151 targets?

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by BonzosMontreaux on Oct 14, 2011 12:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't know what they'd have. I'd bet way less than Lloyd

Either, something would have gone very very wrong for either of those 2 to be targeted so many times.

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by rothbard on Oct 14, 2011 12:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm saying that many targets is bound to produce statistics.

I think DWill could have a decent season on 151 targets, myself.

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by BonzosMontreaux on Oct 14, 2011 12:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

I really really doubt that

have you seen Dwill play?

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by StPrattrick on Oct 14, 2011 10:12 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'd be down for Lloyd for the right price

There’s no denying he’s had only one great season. There’s also no denying that he can make some sick catches and is a very capable receiver.

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by TitanNDCClothing on Oct 14, 2011 9:50 AM CDT reply actions  

recent Titan 3rd round receivers

D-will
P-will
Courtney Roby
Brandon Jones

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by hal41605 on Oct 14, 2011 9:58 AM CDT reply actions  

Wow, we are awesome at drafting receivers

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by rothbard on Oct 14, 2011 9:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

basically lloyd had a better career last year alone

than all those guys in total

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by hal41605 on Oct 14, 2011 10:00 AM CDT up reply actions  

I say do it and I'm looking at the BIG picture.

Having him for 11+ games this season will be worth it. During that time he will see that our team is on the rise and may lower what he wants for money because of that. The league has become pass first and its all about getting quality WR for your QB to have around. Now if Hasselbeck wasnt having his best season ever this wouldnt be happening. We have one good WR right now Hands, DWill may get better as the season goes on, but Hawk is done guy needs to be traded or cut.

Now I know that we are not at the point where we should think about next year because we are playing so good, but just stop and think for a second. We are not going to be able to draft a WR in the 1st or 2nd round best we arent going to have a high draft number. As others have stated we havent draft well late rounders. So next year we would have Britt, Hands and Lloyd, those 3 will help any QB and it would end up helping the run game.

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by Titans_Firefighter on Oct 14, 2011 10:09 AM CDT reply actions  

last year:

He also led the league with 18 receptions of 25 yards or longer while posting the third-highest receiving average (18.8) since 1970.

call it a fluke if you want because statistically it is. but then again so is what Hasselbeck is doing this year, statistically speaking. that’s a lot of big catches, and we need them with Britt gone.

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by hal41605 on Oct 14, 2011 10:12 AM CDT reply actions  

I know people love the Hawk, but come on. He isn’t a good NFL receiver.

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by TitansJonne on Oct 14, 2011 10:18 AM CDT reply actions  

Someone had to say it...

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by StPrattrick on Oct 14, 2011 10:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

sorry you had to find out like this man

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by sami426 on Oct 14, 2011 10:21 AM CDT up reply actions  

hows about looking at as

haselback/lloyd? somehow that works for me.

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by stetix01 on Oct 14, 2011 10:26 AM CDT reply actions  

plus

just think what our WR guru Dave Ragone will do with him!!!!

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by hal41605 on Oct 14, 2011 10:31 AM CDT up reply actions  

it worked on Hands

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by rothbard on Oct 14, 2011 12:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

Will he block for the run game?

just wondering if this factored into all of our receiver woes.

by PA-Titan on Oct 14, 2011 10:37 AM CDT reply actions  

What run game? ;)

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by rothbard on Oct 14, 2011 12:18 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

ha...

I was really wondering if blocking was considered more than hands for past receivers, since it seems we always get stuck with inconsistent receivers.

by PA-Titan on Oct 14, 2011 10:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

Look, ANY new receiver is going to need time to learn the system.

I mean, seriously, you want to spend a 3rd round pick in order to basically RENT a new WR for what will be maybe 8 games of effective production?

I think that’s a little pricey. Sorry, Jimmy.

For a 5th, I could maybe see it. But then again, this team is not necessarily in “win now” mode, and next year’s 5th could easily be a starting TE or guard.

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by DannoE on Oct 14, 2011 10:37 AM CDT reply actions  

Let's also note that during that rental there is a high risk of injury.

Lloyd has already been injured this year, and his career is littered with injuries.

by SuperHorn on Oct 14, 2011 11:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

Wyatt says that he doubts the Titans will get a deal done to get Lloyd

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This is a ray of sunshine.

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by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Oct 14, 2011 10:40 AM CDT up reply actions  

I find it hard to believe people wouldn't want to upgrade the receiving corp.

Lloyd would be a great #2 to pair with Nate. Williams has talent but needs to step it up, and Hawkins just doesn’t seem to get it.

I wouldn’t trade any higher than a 3. I would offer a 4th or 5th.

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by Dynamic Dreadlocks on Oct 14, 2011 10:44 AM CDT up reply actions  

Gotta keep the pick so we can draft Rennie Curran again!

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by rothbard on Oct 14, 2011 12:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

/crystal-ball'd

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by rothbard on Oct 14, 2011 12:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

Rennie was drafted 97th. ATV 104th.

Potentially if that 3rd rounder was traded, we would have drafted Rennie and missed on ATV.

by SuperHorn on Oct 14, 2011 12:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

Absolutely.

This team has needs it can fill in the 4th or 5th round. Backup LB? Improved depth on O-Line or D-Line? Hell, even an O-Line starter is not out of the question in those rounds.

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by DannoE on Oct 14, 2011 12:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

all but 5 of his 77 catches were for 1st downs

nate led us last year with 34 1st downs

teams knew he was target #1 yet he still got open down field all the time. something to be said for that.

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by hal41605 on Oct 14, 2011 10:46 AM CDT reply actions  

Brandon Lloyd's career yards:

212, 565, 733, 365, 14 (maybe he was injured? Only started 1 game.), 364, 117, 1448. Currently at 283.

This is like Sesame Street. Which one of these doesn’t belong?

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by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Oct 14, 2011 10:49 AM CDT reply actions  

just dont get how one good year now means he's worth a 3rd.

I mean he’s inconsistent and STILL unproven imo. A 5th is the best i’ give. They don’t like it? Fine, let Hawkins put the team on his back and carry us to the playoffs

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by TitansJonne on Oct 14, 2011 10:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

Hawkins needs to learn to run routes first

Then work on actually catching passes

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by Dynamic Dreadlocks on Oct 14, 2011 10:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

there's 3 years there that could be better

than anything any other WR on our team has or will ever do besides Nate. part of this is i have nearly zero faith in d-will and hawk to ever be anything above mediocre. the 11 week rental thing is my only real reservation. 4th or 5th i’d do though.

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by hal41605 on Oct 14, 2011 10:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

Is it really worth it for probably an extra 400 yards receiving from him this year?

Williams, Hawkins and Cook can probably combine for that much, if not more.

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by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Oct 14, 2011 11:05 AM CDT up reply actions  

we are clearly going to be passing alot

how is a guy who can get open down field with regularity not way better than a 2 dud WRs and a TE who just can’t seem to get involved in a big way for whatever reason?

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by hal41605 on Oct 14, 2011 11:08 AM CDT up reply actions  

He is better, no doubt.

But other factors involved need to be accounted for: 11 games left (and we’re past our bye), price, and whether we’re rebuilding or contending.

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by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Oct 14, 2011 11:10 AM CDT up reply actions  

Given we're tied for the lead in our "Manningless" division, we're contending.

Or at least I’m sure that’s how the FO sees it.

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by J3G77 on Oct 14, 2011 11:24 AM CDT up reply actions  

*This; we have a chance to take control of this division in a year where nearly everyone outside of the FO thought we'd be bottom of the barrel

we got to do what it takes to keep us in it and not stay stagnate

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by StPrattrick on Oct 14, 2011 11:25 AM CDT up reply actions  

I would not consider us Super Bowl contenders.

At best will compete in our soft division for a playoff spot.

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by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Oct 14, 2011 11:31 AM CDT up reply actions  

So because you think we aren't Super Bowl contenders we shouldn't do whatever we can to win the divison?

Shittier teams have made it to the Super Bowl with less talent then us.

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by StPrattrick on Oct 14, 2011 11:32 AM CDT up reply actions  

The Bears in 2007. Great defense, no offense... at all.

and the Steelers of 07 was not the best team at that Super Bowl, but they pulled out a win.

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by StPrattrick on Oct 14, 2011 12:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

Both were better than this edition of the Titans.

The Bears would be close.

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by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Oct 14, 2011 12:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

Titans better offense with a worse defense... even thought we are still pretty G

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by StPrattrick on Oct 14, 2011 12:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

yeah

i’m guessing the guys in charge aren’t gonna turn their noses up at a playoff spot

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by hal41605 on Oct 14, 2011 11:33 AM CDT up reply actions  

Obviously not.

But the difference between our team right now and our team with Lloyd really doesn’t increase our playoff chances a whole lot. His impact on this team, midseason, is minimal.

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by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Oct 14, 2011 11:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

debatable

if he can give us 8 solid games that could be the difference, esp. if the run game continues to suck

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by hal41605 on Oct 14, 2011 12:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

Going off his career average/year, and accounting for an uptick in the past few years,

I think he’s good for probably 400 yards the remainder of the way. That’s 36 yards a game, or 50 yards per game if he takes a few weeks to get acclimated.

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by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Oct 14, 2011 12:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

given that we are going to have win by passing

how is a guy who can get open down field with regularity not way better than a 2 dud WRs and a TE who just can’t seem to get involved in a big way for whatever reason?

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by hal41605 on Oct 14, 2011 11:09 AM CDT up reply actions  

I have zero faith in Dwill and Hawk in general.

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by StPrattrick on Oct 14, 2011 11:06 AM CDT up reply actions  

That's an average of 477.25 yards per year. Excluding the 14 yd season, that would be 543.43.

By comparison, Nate Washington has average 592.2 yards a year.

Other receivers: Mike Thomas, in two seasons, averages 636.50 yards. Deion Branch, 644.11.

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by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Oct 14, 2011 11:03 AM CDT up reply actions  

True, Lloyd has only had one good year

Even by FO’s DVOA per play stats, he has had a negative rating every year except that one good year.

Of course, it is so hard to judge WRs as it depends so heavily on QB play…but I would be weary giving up anything more than a 5th rounder for Lloyd.

by shawneriksmith on Oct 14, 2011 11:10 AM CDT up reply actions  

But take into consideration the QBs he played with in those seasons.

Jeff Garcia/Alex Smith
Mark Brunell/Jason Campbell
Kyle Orton
and Kyle Orton

Not exactly world beaters either.

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by J3G77 on Oct 14, 2011 11:16 AM CDT up reply actions  

Guess what Hands is worth a 3rd round now and look at the QB he had to put up with.

because we have a good QB, he will make Lloyd worth that 3rd round pick. We are talking about giving up the comp-pick from Babin which will be a 3rd round pick and it will be at the end of the 3rd round so, that is pretty much a 4th round pick.

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by Titans_Firefighter on Oct 14, 2011 11:47 AM CDT up reply actions  

Everyone seems to just know that we get a 3rd round comp.

Didn’t we think we’d get one for Haynesworth and then didn’t?

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by BonzosMontreaux on Oct 14, 2011 11:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

Haynesworth also sucked that year

Babin, not so much

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by rothbard on Oct 14, 2011 12:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

Its primarily based on money though.

Hence us still getting a 4th for him. Its not a guaranteed fact that we get a 3rd round comp.

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by BonzosMontreaux on Oct 14, 2011 12:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

we got a 3rd, 6th and 7th that year in total

they don’t assign them specifically per player, but to the team for net in/out flow of free agents in total

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by hal41605 on Oct 14, 2011 12:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

283 over 4 games translates to 1132 for the season

when’s the last time a Titan receiver did that (I miss Kenny)?

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by asbestos_man on Oct 14, 2011 1:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Over 5 games, works out to 905 for the season.

Solid, but remember that they have operated in a pass-heavy attack (even without McD the run game is terrible).

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by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Oct 14, 2011 1:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

/buzzer sound

25th in the league in pass attempts this year

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by hal41605 on Oct 14, 2011 1:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

Also 25th in rush attempts this year.

Maybe not as pass-heavy as before, definitely pass-friendly.

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by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Oct 14, 2011 1:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

nothing about their offense is friendly

it’s terrible, yet he’s still on pace for 900+. again, who else on Titans can say that?

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by hal41605 on Oct 14, 2011 1:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

Its not about just being better.

Again, there are other factors at play here.

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by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Oct 14, 2011 2:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

factors like this:

in a crap offense with a crap qb on a crap team, lloyd is still on pace for more yards than we have gotten from a WR in almost a decade

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by hal41605 on Oct 14, 2011 2:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

So?

We have had a bad history of receivers so let’s rent a 30 year old with one successful season under his belt?

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by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Oct 14, 2011 2:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

"successful"

aka better than any Titan has ever dreamed of?

fact: we are more “pass happy” than denver this year
fact: hasselbeck > orton
fact: lloyd is already adjusting to a brand new scheme which has de-emphasized his role and he’s still on pace for a phenomenal season by our standards

i’d balk at the third simply because he could be gone after the season, but any less than that seems like a no brainer to me. his “one successful season” is still way more proof of life than you will ever get out of a mid-round rookie.

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by hal41605 on Oct 14, 2011 2:33 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Moss this moss that moss this moss that.

"Do the Titans have a miracle left in them in what has been a magical season to this point? If they do, they need it now. Christie kicks it high and short. Gonna be fielded by Lorenzo Neal at the 25; he dishes it back to Wycheck; he throws it across the field to Dyson. 30, 40, 50, 40, 30, 20, 10, 5, endzone...touchdown, Titans! There are no flags on the field! It's a miracle! Tennessee has pulled a miracle! A miracle for the Titans!"

by TennesseeTyrants on Oct 14, 2011 11:14 AM CDT reply actions   3 recs

Are Lloyd's stats inflated because of the offense he played in? Probably

But McDaniels wasn’t out there making circus catches for him consistently. Dude still had to make the plays himself, and he did plenty of it. Imo this would be a steal

by fsucj2431 on Oct 14, 2011 1:37 PM CDT reply actions  

There's one thing nobody is realizing here.

Matt Hasselbeck > Kyle Orton

If Lloyd is doing this well this year in a system that has a QB Controversy, imagine how well he’ll play with Hasselbeck throwing him the ball?

By the way, if the argument is that one year doesn’t make him a good receiver, then we might as well cut Nate Washington now before he starts dropping everything we throw at him again.

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by fanoftheunderdogs on Oct 14, 2011 2:29 PM CDT reply actions  

Bottomline here is Lloyd > Damian Williams/Lavelle Hawkins/Marc Mariani/Donnie Avery

If the asking price is right, why not pull the trigger? Lloyd is instantly our #2 WR when he gets here.

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by Dynamic Dreadlocks on Oct 14, 2011 3:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

BECAUSE HIS STATS IN OTHER YEARS NOT RELEVANT TO THIS YEAR WEREN'T GOOD

/summary of entire argument behind not getting this guy

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by fanoftheunderdogs on Oct 14, 2011 3:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

WELL SHIT

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by Dynamic Dreadlocks on Oct 14, 2011 9:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wait!

Not on Gramsey’s Carpet!!!

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by Ice0ne (CAJ) on Oct 15, 2011 7:48 AM CDT up reply actions  

Too late

The deed is done

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by Dynamic Dreadlocks on Oct 15, 2011 12:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

dang it

go on, get the stain remover!

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by Ice0ne (CAJ) on Oct 15, 2011 5:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

lol @ MCM logic

Nate Washington has one good year as a WR: DUDE HE’S ACTUALLY GOT HANDS NOW AND HE’S A LEGIT NUMBER 2 RECEIVER. AWESOME!

Brandon Lloyd has one good year as a WR: DUDE IT’S ONLY ONE YEAR THIS GUY ISN’T GONNA PRODUCE FOR US

Chris Johnson has one bad year as a RB: LOL CJ3YPC SUCKS GIVE JAVON RINGER MORE CARRIES OR TRADE HIM

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by fanoftheunderdogs on Oct 14, 2011 3:53 PM CDT reply actions  

Aren't you part of MCM?

or are you the outsider rogue? living by your own rules

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by StPrattrick on Oct 14, 2011 3:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

Excuse me.... he's a.... what?!

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by StPrattrick on Oct 14, 2011 4:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

WHAT DID YOU CALL ME?

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by fanoftheunderdogs on Oct 14, 2011 4:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

WINNIBURN!!!1!

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by rothbard on Oct 14, 2011 5:16 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Thought you'd appreciate that one.

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by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Oct 14, 2011 6:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

He's all grown up!

You can probably guess where the two rec’s came from… haha

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by StPrattrick on Oct 14, 2011 6:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ha, it was just too easy, had to take the shot.

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by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Oct 14, 2011 6:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

SHOOT THE J!

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by StPrattrick on Oct 14, 2011 6:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

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by StPrattrick on Oct 14, 2011 6:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

So proud!

Winni will turn you into a true forum gangsta in no time. Then it’s on to master class with Hal

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by rothbard on Oct 14, 2011 6:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

*we will

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by rothbard on Oct 14, 2011 6:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

Haha, no I think I'll try to stay out of the forum fights for now.

The occasional shot at fanoftheunderdogs.

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by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Oct 14, 2011 6:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

Tactical Burns... I can appreciate that.

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by StPrattrick on Oct 14, 2011 6:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

You can't shoot me over the internet!

Though I’m sure some have tried…

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by fanoftheunderdogs on Oct 15, 2011 12:03 AM CDT up reply actions  

Come on, pratt.

You know I don’t follow MCM logic at all!

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by fanoftheunderdogs on Oct 14, 2011 4:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

*Don't follow logic* - understatement

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by StPrattrick on Oct 14, 2011 4:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

THAT'S IT, I'M TAKING A RANDOM SAVED COMMENT FROM MY SUBJECT LINE ON FIREFOX AND PUTTING IT IN MY MAIN COMMENT

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by fanoftheunderdogs on Oct 14, 2011 4:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

DON'T MEAN ORLANDO

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by fanoftheunderdogs on Oct 14, 2011 4:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah and Eagles will give Vick to the Dolphins.

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by fanoftheunderdogs on Oct 14, 2011 4:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT ALMOST WENT BLIND WHILE READING THAT

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by fanoftheunderdogs on Oct 14, 2011 4:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

^ That is just some of my logic.

Be afraid. Be very afraid.

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by fanoftheunderdogs on Oct 14, 2011 4:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

Are you high?

Yeah, you’re high.

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by Dynamic Dreadlocks on Oct 14, 2011 9:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

You archive you're own comments?

- it’s worse then we thought…

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by StPrattrick on Oct 14, 2011 4:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

MCM Logic > Real Logic

Everyone knows that.

And StPrattrick Logic > God (Tim Tebow)’s Logic

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by Dynamic Dreadlocks on Oct 14, 2011 9:27 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Bahahaha

or the ’Chuck’N Pray’?

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