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2011 NFL Draft: Is Ryan Mallett A Good Pick for the Titans with the 8th Pick

Last night I suggested you put your Titan glasses on and watch Arkansas QB Ryan Mallett in the Sugar Bowl.  There were a lot of good responses about him during the game in that thread.  This morning I poses the question to the followers of the site on Twitter, and you too should be following the site on Twitter if you aren't already @TitansMCM, and I got a lot of solid responses. 

My gut tells me that Ryan Mallett is going to have a similar pro career to Ryan Leaf.  I am usually not that big of a "gut feel" guy, maybe I have been watching too much NCIS lately, but I cannot shake the feeling that Mallett is going to be a bust in the NFL.  There is no doubt he has the size and arm strength to be an NFL QB, but his mobility is a huge negative and he doesn't seem to step up in clutch situations.  I will stick with what I said last night, I don't like him at #8 but would like him at #40.  There is no way that he makes it that far though.

Click through the jump to see what some of the people on Twitter had to say about Mallett and the Titans.

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@MeSharona6

not with the 8th pick, no

Short and to the point.  I agree.

@McLeanCromer

Nope, he showed too many times last night that if he is under pressure, his decision making decreases..

Which would spell doom for him in the NFL.

@BossHawgKasino6

yes I would take Mallett with the 8TH pick. Keep Fisher!

The first positive vote for Mallett.

@ttintn

YES!! He would be the perfect compliment births speed & cjs explosiveness. Dont think he'll still be there @ 8 though...

I am assuming he meant Britt there.  He would be a good compliment to Kenny Britt for sure because he can chuck the ball down the field.  Can you imagine how many yards KB would have with a guy that could actually hit him in stride 30 yards down the field?

@Golfpimp2008

No ! , he showed nothing last night .. No mobility whatsoever .. Draft Cam if hes available ..

I think mobility will be his biggest problem at the end of the day.  Just Say No to Cam.

@WiburTN

yes yes yes!!! Dear god yes!

I think Wilbur likes him.

@CJ28MTL

Mallett has some great upsides, but yesterday exposed him under pressure. He's has stone feet and tends to rush throws.

Rock solid analysis right there.

@tevetorbes

I like Mallett. Like I said last night, he's used to his receivers dropping passes, so he'd fit right in

I laughed out loud when I read this one.

@carsonoshoney

I think we should definitely take him if he's available in the 2nd, but I feel like 8th is a little high.

@Pro_Prospects

right now I have him going to SF @ #7 but he is looking more and more like a future bust. No athletic ability and bad accuracy.

@jdwright68

Think #8 is too high for Mallett. He made some poor decisions last night under pressure. NFL will blitz him every other play.

This has been the common theme.

@boglesby

 Mallett seems like another QB with baggage. Certainly not something the Titans need at this point.

I am not really sure what his baggage is, but I couldn't agree more that bringing in another QB with baggage is the worst idea ever.

I enjoyed reading everyone's responses, and I hope to do some more of this in the future.

(h/t to gramsey for the idea)

Poll
Is Ryan Mallett worthy of the Titans 1st round pick?
Yes
115 votes
No
234 votes
Undecided
67 votes

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about the baggage

I hear he’s a drama queen. Not sure how much merit there is to it but I wouldn’t want him if he was. If we take anyone, it’s got to be Gabbert or Luck, but I think that if they take Mallett I could live with it until he proves there’s nothing to get excited about.

Get 'em.
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by danielreese05 on Jan 5, 2011 4:17 PM CST via mobile reply actions  

I'm not really sure how to respond to this

Crompton is a delicate topic you know.

Get 'em.
"it ain't no sin in goin to da scrip club."
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by danielreese05 on Jan 5, 2011 5:12 PM CST up reply actions  

I don't really know how to correctly respond here

Crompton is a delicate topic you know.

Get 'em.
"it ain't no sin in goin to da scrip club."
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by danielreese05 on Jan 5, 2011 5:13 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm not really sure how to respond to this

Crompton is a delicate topic you know.

Get 'em.
"it ain't no sin in goin to da scrip club."
Music City Miracles Hall Of Fame, Class of 2010

by danielreese05 on Jan 5, 2011 5:13 PM CST up reply actions  

sorry

I need to have things done in threes.

Get 'em.
"it ain't no sin in goin to da scrip club."
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by danielreese05 on Jan 5, 2011 5:17 PM CST up reply actions  

you've already got you 2000 comments; you don't have to do them 3 times

I’m an early bird and a night owl. So I’m wise and I have worms.

BOOM! You've been pharmacisted!

by DonFrancisco on Jan 5, 2011 7:53 PM CST up reply actions  

Well i could see him being a drama queen

he Cried after each sack, they showed his face.
kinda whiny if you ask me.
But that guy Heyward looked good last night, he made Mallet and the O-line his play toy

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by Ice0ne (CAJ) on Jan 5, 2011 5:26 PM CST up reply actions  

Were you watching the same game?

“I will say he looked a hell of a lot better than Tattoo Pryor "

Pryor made play after play. Sure, Mallet had WR’s dropping everything. But Pryor had a great game.
Let me guess, more OSU prejudice from SEC country……

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by oHIo1 on Jan 6, 2011 12:20 PM CST up reply actions  

if vince is gone

and we dont draft a qb in the 1st like gabbert, mallett or luck (whoo obviously wont be there)
i say we sign mcnabb

I officially don't care who's on the Titans anymore, i just want a Super Bowl.

by oilers15 on Jan 5, 2011 4:20 PM CST reply actions  

or trade for one of

Campbell (best option), Romo, Kolb

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by Eric Prince on Jan 5, 2011 11:00 PM CST up reply actions  

Think the Raiders will stick with Gradkowski?

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by billycthulhu on Jan 6, 2011 10:34 AM CST up reply actions  

They's rather have The Nameless that Campbell I think

and we’d rather have Campbell than The Nameless

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by Eric Prince on Jan 6, 2011 8:38 PM CST up reply actions  

I think Mallett has enough upside to warrant drafting him at #8

If anyone drafts Newton over him there is something wrong there. If we draft Newton I will be utterly speechless.

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by Josh Baker on Jan 5, 2011 4:32 PM CST reply actions  

I saw him make some beautiful throws last night, but agree on the statue-esque in the pocket.

He also was not really good at those dump-offs under pressure. How much of that was him and how much was his o-line sucking and/or OSU’s d-line getting good pressure and their hands up I don’t know.

Future ghostwriter of Jeff Fisher's autobiography, "Moustache Ride: A True Story of Love, Lies and Betrayal".

We've had five-game losing streaks for twelve years now...and in no way is that depressing.

by ronburgundy7427 on Jan 5, 2011 4:35 PM CST reply actions  

No No No

I agree he looked better than Pryor – and yes he made some great throws. But every QB can make some great throws.

He looked like a statue and crumbled when crunch-time mattered. Getting the ball back that close to a game winning drive and folded.

I wouldn’t complain if we took him in the 3rd rd, but at #8 would really surprise me.

by rpeckham on Jan 5, 2011 4:48 PM CST reply actions  

Yeah

He crumbled against Alabama too at the end. Seems like he has a lot of trouble handling adversity and it affects his decision-making. That and the lack of mobility makes me pretty reluctant to get him. He does have a cannon for an arm though…

"You know, we had a lot of fun tonight. But there's nothing funny about vapor lock! It's the third most common cause of cars stalling. So please, take care of your car and get it checked!" -Joe Namath

by billycthulhu on Jan 6, 2011 10:36 AM CST up reply actions  

Wow

Saying he would be a good fit because he has a strong arm to complement Britt and CJ is like saying we should sign Jamarcus Russel. One thing I liked about VY was his (usually) “clutchness”. Mallet has shown the opposite.

by Longhornlegend on Jan 5, 2011 4:54 PM CST via mobile reply actions  

Mallet has cannon and the size but he's a statue

so no. if the draft was today, i’d pick Gabbert over Mallet because he has some mobility to go w/ the size and arm

by nolesbroncos3456 on Jan 5, 2011 4:57 PM CST via mobile reply actions  

I'm of the oppinion

That if we can’t get Luck, which we can’t, then none of the QB’s in this draft is worth a firstround pick, and the money it commands, I’d feel much more comfortable drafting the best player available, or trading down for more picks.

Mallet showed us what he is all about last night, good deep ball, avg (at the college level) everything else. This translates to problems in the NFL.

by Jeff Fisher's Power Stache on Jan 5, 2011 5:01 PM CST reply actions  

Im not really excited about this QB draft class

No one really gets me out of my seat and praying the Titans take them other than luck. This draft is defense heavy anyways, so I say take a defensive stud and wait on QB.

by TitansFan4life on Jan 5, 2011 7:43 PM CST up reply actions  

agreed

i’m curious to see what it would take to move up to the first pick to get luck though. not going to happen, i know, and probably not worth the cost, but still would be interesting to see what the cost would be. we’ll trade Fisher in any deal, so long as we get the number 1 pick. Carolina needs a head coach!

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by Eric Prince on Jan 5, 2011 11:06 PM CST up reply actions  

6'7"

No QB 6’7" or taller has had NFL success. He is 6’7". Let’s not take more chances at the QB position.

by rwinston on Jan 5, 2011 5:06 PM CST via mobile reply actions  

Flacco's 6'6

he’s doing just fine. basing this on height alone is silly. there’s more to it than that, he’s got no mobility and kind of just stands there when the pocket collapses.

Get 'em.
"it ain't no sin in goin to da scrip club."
Music City Miracles Hall Of Fame, Class of 2010

by danielreese05 on Jan 5, 2011 5:07 PM CST up reply actions  

He was compared to Ryan Leaf in ESPN radio too. Check around. There is such a thing as too big. 6’6" is less than 6’7" obviously. Find one QB 6’7" that was successful.

by rwinston on Jan 6, 2011 1:23 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Id rather draft that linebacker from Ohio state that was making mallet his bitch last night I don’t watch much college football but everytime I saw that qb get knocked down last night he was getting so frustrated that he was kicking the players that knocked him down and acting like a lil bitch so no do not draft this kid why trade in one bitchy qb for another

by lockemindatrunk on Jan 5, 2011 5:07 PM CST via mobile reply actions  

you mean the DT/DE

Heyward was killing them!!

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by Ice0ne (CAJ) on Jan 5, 2011 5:28 PM CST up reply actions  

Yeah that guy was in beast mode last night I think he would play great as a mlb

by lockemindatrunk on Jan 5, 2011 5:35 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Heyward.

Actually might be available in the second round.

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by King Titan on Jan 5, 2011 6:48 PM CST up reply actions  

What about the UNC troublemakers

All of those guys who got thrown off the team, by the NCAA/UNC. Aside from being comical given the current state of the NCAA’s rule enforcement. But I think they had 5 or 6 defensive players who were expected to be first or second rounders. Off the top of my head.
DE’s Robert Quinn, Quinton Coples
DT Marvin Austin ( I think was a top ranked DT in the country, up there with Dareus from ALA.)
LB’s Quan Sturdivant, Bruce Carter
S Deunta Williams
CB Kendrick Burney. Charles Brown

Not sure that these are all the guys as 15 guys were either suspended or dismissed, but I’m sure that at least 5 of them were top ranked at their position to start the year.
Also from what I’ve read these guys all got booted for dealings with Agents, which is a little less concerning than some other character issues of guys we’ve drafted in the past.

I’m not saying these guys are the answer at #8, but in later rounds if they can be had at a discounted rate, I’d at the very least work them out/draft them.

If any of the rest of you know more specifics, I’d love to know your feelings on these guys.

by Jeff Fisher's Power Stache on Jan 5, 2011 5:15 PM CST reply actions  

Robert Quinn would be a lock as a top 5 pick

if he would have played this season. I think they went to a party and some agents were their. So the NCAA jumped all over them. They blew it out of proportion just like the AJ Green, Dez Bryant, and Ohio St. guys. I would love to have Quinn. This guy is a freak athlete. Reminds me of Kearse or Peppers. I would take him at #8

by TitansFan4life on Jan 5, 2011 7:48 PM CST up reply actions  

short term qb solution

we trade vy and our 4th rd pick to skins for mcnab/haynesworth. if mallet’s avil in 2nd rd, we take him to try and develop. or..we see if delaware’s pat devlin is still around in rd 3.

by NJ Titans Fan on Jan 5, 2011 5:17 PM CST via mobile reply actions   1 recs

Hell's no!

If we go QB, top priorities should be accuracy, unquestionable work ethic, a humble team-oriented attitude, and preferably come from a pro system. Someone who won’t take their abilities and draft position for granted. Gabbert could be good, but how often have we seen spread QBs succeed in the NFL? Personally I’m in Locker’s corner for a 2 or 3 round pick, and agree we need to go DT or LB with the first pick. Maybe take a flyer on Pat Devlin from Delaware too; keep an eye on him in the FCS championship game coming up.

Another entirely different route would be take a young guy already in the NFL, someone like Matt Flynn. Could provide a shorter turnaround than a later round draft pick, and allow for a short term transition vet to come in.

by groovymountain on Jan 5, 2011 5:18 PM CST reply actions  

Mallet sucks

He always collapses in crunch time. Check out his performance against Alabama this year. He started great and then personally handed the game to Alabama. He cannot handle pressure, whether it’s being brought by pass rushers or by the sheer magnitude of the situation.

There is no difference between drafting him at #8 or #40. This organization needs to spend what it needs to get a QB, preferably in free agency. If they draft a QB, it needs to be someone they are willing to spend a first round pick on. Better to spend high round picks on an LB or DT.

by WX_Man on Jan 5, 2011 5:27 PM CST reply actions  

I haven't watched many of Mallet's game, only last night, but I liked him.

Just to address some of the complaints about him:

1) He’s not mobile. This is true, he’s not taking off and running for first downs like Vince, but his footwork seemed good enough. I didn’t pay much attention to his pocket presence, but I wish I had, now. You don’t have to be mobile to avoid sacks and be good in the pocket. Just ask Peyton Manning. He’s probably as slow as his lineman and he almost never gets sacked.

2) He crumbles under pressure? He threw a pick at the end of a big game, sure, but that happens to every QB at one point or another. His only other 2 losses were Alabama and Auburn (he led his team to 43 points in the Auburn game, btw). I didn’t actually see any of these games, as I said, but it seems hard for a QB to constantly crumble under pressure when he’s had the season that Mallet has had. If people are making that judgment based on 1 throw last night, I’d probably be inclined to disagree.

Now, I don’t know for sure that he’s worth a #8 overall pick, and we certainly have some holes on defense that could be addressed, but based purely on what I saw last night, I wouldn’t be upset if we took him.

I will be interested in hearing what the scouting reports say about his football mind/intelligence and work ethic.

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by TennesseeTyrants on Jan 5, 2011 5:46 PM CST reply actions  

I checked out some replays.

He didn’t seem to be shuffling in the pocket or moving around very well. The mobility does seem like his biggest drawback.

"Do the Titans have a miracle left in them in what has been a magical season to this point? If they do, they need it now. Christie kicks it high and short. Gonna be fielded by Lorenzo Neal at the 25; he dishes it back to Wycheck; he throws it across the field to Dyson. 30, 40, 50, 40, 30, 20, 10, 5, endzone...touchdown, Titans! There are no flags on the field! It's a miracle! Tennessee has pulled a miracle! A miracle for the Titans!"

by TennesseeTyrants on Jan 5, 2011 5:50 PM CST up reply actions  

He threw picks at the end of the Alabama game as well when things were getting tough

"You know, we had a lot of fun tonight. But there's nothing funny about vapor lock! It's the third most common cause of cars stalling. So please, take care of your car and get it checked!" -Joe Namath

by billycthulhu on Jan 6, 2011 10:44 AM CST up reply actions  

Well look at the first sentence:

“Owner Bud Adams is going to want to make quarterback Vince Young look good.”

I’d be highly surprised if we drafted a WR with 8 overall.

"Do the Titans have a miracle left in them in what has been a magical season to this point? If they do, they need it now. Christie kicks it high and short. Gonna be fielded by Lorenzo Neal at the 25; he dishes it back to Wycheck; he throws it across the field to Dyson. 30, 40, 50, 40, 30, 20, 10, 5, endzone...touchdown, Titans! There are no flags on the field! It's a miracle! Tennessee has pulled a miracle! A miracle for the Titans!"

by TennesseeTyrants on Jan 5, 2011 6:39 PM CST up reply actions  

yeah I don't think that's going to be a problem anymore...

but I wouldn’t hate being absolutely loaded at WR for once.

Get 'em.
"it ain't no sin in goin to da scrip club."
Music City Miracles Hall Of Fame, Class of 2010

by danielreese05 on Jan 5, 2011 6:58 PM CST up reply actions  

That's also Andrew Perloff, who sucks.

Future ghostwriter of Jeff Fisher's autobiography, "Moustache Ride: A True Story of Love, Lies and Betrayal".

We've had five-game losing streaks for twelve years now...and in no way is that depressing.

by ronburgundy7427 on Jan 5, 2011 7:11 PM CST up reply actions  

I was sold on him last night until the interception.

If that was a one time thing, then I’m okay with it. I think I heard on the radio he’s thrown some key picks like that though and if that’s true, I don’t want him.

Someone needs to tell Bud that Voldemort was the villain.

by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Jan 5, 2011 6:02 PM CST reply actions  

I'm going to say it again

No QB is worth top 10 money other than Andrew Luck.

Go Vols! Go Titans! Go My Fantasy Team!

by 12thTitan on Jan 5, 2011 9:28 PM CST reply actions  

final verdict

he reminds of, at best, a Drew Bledsoe type. at worst, JaMarcus.

Get 'em.
"it ain't no sin in goin to da scrip club."
Music City Miracles Hall Of Fame, Class of 2010

by danielreese05 on Jan 5, 2011 10:04 PM CST reply actions  

Would rather have one of

Robert Quinn
Blaine Gabbert
Da’Quan Bowers (if he somehow falls to us at number 8)

Not likely to happen, but dreams are the foundation of baseball, so dream away. - JParks

by Eric Prince on Jan 5, 2011 11:10 PM CST reply actions  

Or, trade down to around pick 18 or so

and grab Jake Locker and have a few extra picks.

Not likely to happen, but dreams are the foundation of baseball, so dream away. - JParks

by Eric Prince on Jan 5, 2011 11:14 PM CST reply actions  

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