My Take On Our Draft

by oilers15 on Jan 25, 2011 8:50 PM CST

Well, over the past few weeks we've had our fair share of rational arguments as well as sheer stupidity. I joined this site to talk about the Tennessee Titans and i've come to realize that not all Titans fans can coexist and I'm OK with that. There are set to be conflicting viewpoints on many subjects and that's what makes me appreciate this site all the more.

Now that I've gotten that out of the way let's move on to the draft....

Round 1: Von Miller

What i know is that there are wholes on defense, most specifically at LB and S. If we are able to resign Jason Babin (which i'm taking into account with this pick) we won't need to draft a DE, so i have the Titans taking Miller. A vocal leader in his time at Texas A & M, Miller might be just what the Titans need in terms of leadership as well as pure skill at the LB position. I've recently seen on twitter that Miller is stout at coverage and as we all know, our LBs arent very good at that. On passing downs Miller can also blitz very well and hopefully with some creative coordinator can set up decoy blitzes from the LB spot.

2nd Pick: Jake Locker

I actually say we trade up into the late 1st round and take Locker (obviously only if HE is there). Locker's only knock has been his accuracy and he'll have his chance to improve or hurt his draft stock depending on his performance in the senior bowl and the combine. If he does happen to fall to the late 1st we should move up and take him. The athleticism is there and so is the arm strength. I dont know who will be coaching up our QB's next year but if Locker can fix his accuracy issues, he can be a very good QB in the NFL, and clearly we need one not only for now but for the future.

3rd Round: Lee Ziemba

Not sure if he's projected as a Tackle or Guard, but for my sake let's say he will be a Guard in the NFL. This dude is a big boy at 6'6 320 lbs and we need a mauler in the interior of our Offensive Line as Leroy Harris just didn't get it done, Jake Scott can't stay on our side of the ball, and Eugene Amano needs no comment. A 4-year starter at Auburn Ziemba was a smart and talented Offensive Lineman and we can use him to shore up our interior blocking.

That's all i have for now so feel free to call me an idiot and what not. That's just my take and i'm all for argument and discussion so fire away!

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I haven't heard that Von Miller is great in coverage...

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by King Titan on Jan 25, 2011 8:56 PM CST reply actions

i didnt say great i said stout/decent

@OptimumScouting: Von Miller doesn’t look too bad to in coverage at linebacker, still a top 10 guy to me

I officially don't care who's on the Titans anymore, i just want a Super Bowl.

by oilers15 on Jan 25, 2011 9:01 PM CST reply actions

that was a reply to king titan

my bad

I officially don't care who's on the Titans anymore, i just want a Super Bowl.

by oilers15 on Jan 25, 2011 9:02 PM CST up reply actions

I don't think Miller is worth #8 overall.

In the Top 10, you don’t want “stout/decent”, you want great. Whether it pans out or not is unknowable, but going into it if the thinking is “He’s ok.”, I don’t want him.

I’d be ok with Locker in the second, trading up would depend on what was given up to get him. I’m starting to lean more and more towards DL (specifically DT) first round and LB second round. Or a trade down for a LB in the first round and DL the second.

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by ronburgundy7427 on Jan 25, 2011 10:12 PM CST reply actions

ya i understand your thinking

it really depends which DT is there..if Dareus is there thats pretty much a no-brainer
if not we might be able to get Cameron Heyward in the 2nd..not sure tho

I officially don't care who's on the Titans anymore, i just want a Super Bowl.

by oilers15 on Jan 25, 2011 10:22 PM CST up reply actions

from what I'm hearing

he’s the best player in Mobile this week

Get 'em.
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by danielreese05 on Jan 26, 2011 4:46 PM CST up reply actions

Im not sure,

but I will be pretty dissapointed if we dont take a shot at Casey Matthews..

Air Bud > Kerry Collins

by Przybyla on Jan 25, 2011 10:18 PM CST reply actions

ya

he might be a steal in round two or three

I officially don't care who's on the Titans anymore, i just want a Super Bowl.

by oilers15 on Jan 25, 2011 10:27 PM CST up reply actions

Miller was mainly used as a DE

in college. He clearly has the speed and athleticism to become a good coverage linebacker. I don’t think you will find any scout rating him outside the top 10, he deserves to be there. No way Locker lasts to the second, some coach will feel like they can fix his accuracy issues and take him in the first.

by Stormcrow on Jan 26, 2011 8:12 AM CST reply actions

Our needs

DT is more important than DE. DT is more important to ur defense than another LB.

Updated list. I have been persuaded if Dareus is as good as you all mention.

1. Dareus, DT
2. Peterson, CB
3. Prince, CB
4. Newton, QB
5. Gabbert, QB

I don’t agree with taking QB first pick but I feel Adams will make the decision for one this year.

by titanwarrior1 on Jan 26, 2011 12:06 PM CST reply actions

Can someone explain why Von Miller or Casey Matthews at LB/DE

is really what we need????

& drafting another CB SHOULD be 10X more important than drafting another safety behind Griff & Hope.

by titanwarrior1 on Jan 26, 2011 12:09 PM CST up reply actions

So the plan is to run a 4-0-7?

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by rothbard on Jan 26, 2011 12:17 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs

Rec'd

ROTHBARD FOR DC!!!!!!!!!!1111

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JIMMY LOVES CAM NEWTON!!!!!!!!11

by gramsey712 on Jan 26, 2011 12:24 PM CST up reply actions

I'll start working on a stache immediately

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by rothbard on Jan 26, 2011 12:27 PM CST up reply actions

We could run the feared 6-0-5

Or the defense that is all the rage these days, the 8-0-3.

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by gramsey712 on Jan 26, 2011 12:24 PM CST up reply actions

10-0-1

Is obviously da bestest

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by rothbard on Jan 26, 2011 12:27 PM CST up reply actions

The better your D-line, the better your secondary looks

10x d-linemen are going to make 1 secondary player look like a Hall of Famer every week,

My last two signatures were about Vince Young and Rusty Smith. I'm sure as hell not giving Collins room down here. So this will be my signature until the Titans show me something signature worthy.

But I digress, GO TITANS!

by natidawg on Jan 26, 2011 1:50 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs

soo true!!

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by Ice0ne (CAJ) on Jan 26, 2011 7:59 PM CST up reply actions

i like the 1-5-5

we should run 2-4-4
and just have hope on the bench. He’s not gonna help on the play anyway!

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by Ice0ne (CAJ) on Jan 26, 2011 7:58 PM CST up reply actions

SOCCER FORMATIONS WIN IN FOOTBALL!!!11

5-1-4-1 is our new master plan.

5 DL = play is same as our current system. Mad rush to the QB and hope to hit the RB on the way if it’s a run
1 LB = nothing fancy. Additional pressure or crash running lane. No coverage required. You can do it Tully!!
4 CB = cover, cover, cover in case QB manages to actually throw the ball
1 FS = play deep. emergency last line of defense

WUN!!!!11 ;)

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by rothbard on Jan 26, 2011 9:10 PM CST up reply actions

That would work for me...

If the FS was that guy on the Head and Shoulder’s commercials.

by Tyler George Nilson on Jan 26, 2011 9:17 PM CST up reply actions

I don't agree with any of this except for Dareus and Gabbert.

I don’t like Newton just because I feel like he’s not a team guy. He seems like a showman and I just personally don’t like that. I really don’t think we have dire need at CB because ATV and McCourty are still pretty young guys developing in the system and Finnegan is Finnegan. Gabbert could be decent but because he will go round 1, I would rather spend that pick on an upgrade in the trenches. O-line or D-line. Or maybe a LB that can cover better.

by Tyler George Nilson on Jan 26, 2011 9:14 PM CST up reply actions

Finally a valid response

that isn’t a joke about mocking my idea of Dime (4-1-6) or Quarter (3-2-6) formations. I understand many want us to stay in the 4-3-4; so we continue our power D. Well that power defense hasn’t been stopping the pass the past 2 years. Also, if our 2011 schedule continues, we will have to rival Matt Ryan & Drew Brees who enjoy throwing forty passes a game!

My biggest point that I been trying to get across is that there is elite talent at CB this year in the first round. There hasn’t been that much secondary talent drafted in the last two years outside of Verner, Jenkins, & Bryd.

Von Miller or Casey Mathews better be Clay Mathews/ Dummervil quality at LB because that CB talent wont be as heavily available next year when our draft pick will probably be in the teens instead of #8.

by titanwarrior1 on Jan 27, 2011 12:58 PM CST up reply actions

I'm no longer mocking you (I read your initial post the wrong way anyways)

Titans fail @ LB, so why bother with them anymore? I agree that there is serious secondary talent available this year @ the top of the draft. The top LB talent (Von Miller) is considered a rusher, not a coverage guy. So, my point is forget about LBs, or at least forget about them in the way we are used to thinking about them. Bring the heat w/5 linemen and load the secondary. I understand this isn’t kosher or “en vogue”, but so?

It’s a pass happy league, so why not attack (not sit and wait with fail LBs) that as a first priority and hope to stop the run as a side effect?

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by rothbard on Jan 27, 2011 1:14 PM CST up reply actions

much obliged...

Perhaps that is why we have so many LBs on our roster. So when there is a team that can shut down our D line, we can then go back to our 4-3 D when we are playing those other six running teams, (JAC, PIT, MIA, NYJ, BAL, KC). It is strangely ironic there is no Run First Teams in the NFC. With as many pass happy teams we have in the NFL; I believe we should be using the nickel/ dime formation 8 out of 10 times over the 4-3 & force opposing teams to run against our under-rated LB core.

by titanwarrior1 on Jan 27, 2011 4:22 PM CST up reply actions

We have LBs

So we should keep wasting picks on Defensive ends & having crappy sub-par Fisher seasons forever then…

The plan should be to gather depth at Nickel behind Finnegan & ATV. Also, Tony Brown is not a long term solution at DT #2.

Just because we run a 4-3 defense still; doesn’t entitle every pick has to be a replacement for that system.

by titanwarrior1 on Jan 26, 2011 12:30 PM CST reply actions

Hard to take you seriously after reading the heading to your post

“We have LBs” doesn’t equal “We have good LBs”. We have QBs too, why draft anymore, right?

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by rothbard on Jan 26, 2011 12:36 PM CST up reply actions

Yes, we are all aware of our QB Quandry...

I rather take a solid player my first pick that is ELITE than waste it on a player because we need a whole new set of LBs or LE. I was only referring to our first pick. I’m sure there will be plenty of DE & LBs to grab in round 2 or 3.

If Casey Matthews or Von Miller can be equivalent to Clay Mathews then yes take him. We took Ronnie Curran early in the 3rd for LB depth Last Year. We took Captain Morgan in the first to add pressure on pass D.

So why do we need to repeat that same draft scenario Again & waste a first round pick?

When it’s possible we could solve our QB situation or add a great Cornerback to our nickel defense with our FIRST PICK…

by titanwarrior1 on Jan 26, 2011 12:45 PM CST up reply actions

With a Top 10 pick I don't want a nickel/situational player.

I want a top-notch starter. Besides, they seem to have the nickel figured out by shifting Verner inside and putting McCourty on the outside in nickel packages.

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We've had five-game losing streaks for twelve years now...and in no way is that depressing.

by ronburgundy7427 on Jan 26, 2011 1:01 PM CST up reply actions

Draft DT Dareus then..

(I hope for our sake, McCourty has Vastly improved then. He has done nothing to impress me since he arrived.)

Hopefully we will draft Dareus & move Jason Jones to DE. If there is no Elite Starter at DE/ OLB with COVERAGE SKILLS; then why do we have to draft one in the first round!

by titanwarrior1 on Jan 26, 2011 4:01 PM CST up reply actions

why move JJ to DE?

McCourty hasnt impressed?
He’s vastly improved since his rookie season.

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by Ice0ne (CAJ) on Jan 26, 2011 8:07 PM CST up reply actions

Not sure "coverage skills" are a prerequisite for starting DE

And moving JJ to end? Who else is going to play tackle? Sure he may be undersized, but who else we got?

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by rothbard on Jan 26, 2011 9:03 PM CST up reply actions

Who are these LB's

you speak of? We have new ones? Did McGrath get his PED’s back?

by Stormcrow on Jan 26, 2011 3:58 PM CST up reply actions

I wondered why they tested him for those?

He didn’t show any overbearing skill or roid rage (Houston LB who i can’t think of atm)

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by Ice0ne (CAJ) on Jan 26, 2011 8:09 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs

""We have LBs" doesn’t equal "We have good LBs."

From Rothbard, above…

Witherspoon has a few years left. Winburn doesn’t receive the credit he deserves. We should still have Tully. McGrath hasn’t impressed anyone. & Rennie Curran has potential to be a future OLB.

Yes, our LBs are very under-rated; but I don’t believe it is a First Round Need if the TALENT isn’t there.

by titanwarrior1 on Jan 26, 2011 4:08 PM CST reply actions

Tulloch

ain’t coming back chief. I do think Witherspoon will be back, but it would make more since for him to play the middle, like he did in Philly. McGrath will probably start because that would seem like one of these crazy Fisher man crushes he has. We still need a linebacker who makes a difference. The first round talent is there, Von Miller is said to be top 5 talent after his senior bowl practices this week.

by Stormcrow on Jan 27, 2011 7:55 AM CST up reply actions