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Mike Reinfeldt: Do Yourself a Favor and Draft Like the Steelers.

Let's set aside our two toned blue goggles for a second and take a quick look at reality; no one drafts personnel to fit their system better than the Steelers. 

As our own asbestos_man said in response to a commenter who said that no NFL defense will be good year in and year out, "May I present to you the Pittsburgh Steelers."

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To close out the 90's, the Steelers drafted the anchor of their linebacker core, Joey Porter, in the third round and perennial Pro Bowl defensive end Aaron Smith in the fourth. In fact, if I go back even further, I can pick out several Pro-Bowlers and established NFL starters from the ranks of their late 90's draft classes. This list includes Deshea Townsend, Alan Faneca, Mike Vrabel,  and Cordell Stewart. However, for the sake of curtness, I'll cut it off at 99. 

Let's go back to the turn of the millennium. In the 2000 NFL draft, the Steelers selected wide receiver Plaxico Burress out of Michigan State with their 8th overall pick despite having an established receiver already on the roster (Hines Ward). In that draft, they also took Marvel Smith in the second round who would go on to be one of the most important parts of the Super Bowl winning team in 2005. They also took Tee Martin. Yay Tee Martin!

2001: the Steelers took a space eating defensive tackle named Casey Hampton in the first round with the 19th overall pick. Hampton remains a crucial piece of Pittsburgh's notoriously stingy run defense. While he was never known as a sack artist, he took tons of pressure off of Pittsburgh's young pass rushers by occupying two, sometimes three, blockers every single play. Despite the fact that he has only recored eight sacks over his whole career, he iced the game in Super Bowl XL with a sack of Matt Hasselbeck

 2002: guard Kendall Simmons was selected out of Auburn. He would go on to start 83 games for the Steelers. They also selected Antwaan Randle El and Chris Hope. Both were key contributors as Hope (who we're all familiar with) was the starting safety by 2004 and ended up developing into a very quality player. Also taken in 2002 was Larry Foote, one of the first generation of stalwart Pittsburgh linebackers to come along in 2000. Finally, they capped off the draft by picking up Brett Keisel, a Pro Bowl defensive end this year. 

Alright I think I'm starting to develop preliminary carpal tunnel from typing on this thing all night, so I'll try to make this brief. 

2003: The Steelers sured up their secondary by picking Troy Polamalu who obviously has blossomed into an all-time great and Ike Taylor, a starter at cornerback to this day. 

2004: Ben Roethlisberger is selected as Pittsburgh's QB of the future; goes on to become arguably one of the best playoff QBs ever.

2005: Tight end Heath Miller is a head scratcher on draft day, becomes one of game's more complete TEs .Bryant McFadden is a starter until signing lucrative deal with Arizona. Trai Essex still starting at tackle. Chris Kemoeatu is one of the game's best interior linemen. 

2006: Santonio Holmes is top flight receiver and Super Bowl hero until bounced from team for petty reasons (kick the pothead and keep the rapist; nice logic Rooney!). Willie Colon is starting on the offensive line. 

2007: Lawrence Timmons and LaMarr Woodley selected with successive picks; become Pro Bowl players by year three. William Gay just scored a touchdown and gets regular playing time.

2008: Mendenhall is one of the game's best young backs. Not much else to write home about in this draft. 

2009: Ziggy Hood fills in admirably for injured Aaron Smith in his first full season, Mike Wallace is Pittsburgh's new Santonio Holmes. 

2010: Maurkice Pouncey is supposedly good enough to reach Pro Bowl, kind of sucks but we'll put him on here anyway. Emmanuel Sanders is up and coming star and a great deep threat, Antonio Brown because he made an awesome catch last week and for the hell of it. 

SO. What does any of this tell us? Have I proved anything? Unfortunately, not unless I do some more typing. Let's look at how good the Steelers are at grabbing good defensive talent. It's unfair really. In the last decade, the Steelers have drafted 8 Pro Bowlers on the defensive side of the ball, plus two defensive MVPs. I'm also sure that Timmons and Hood will reach one before their time is up. That gives you an average of a Pro Bowler a year on defense. On defense, the Titans have had some success drafting players that get sent to the Pro Bowl with six in the last ten years. Not a bad figure, but not good enough. Their units finish consistently ranked near the middle of the league or worse with one exception in 2008. I blame the coaching, but the fact remains that they can't get it done as a unit and this whole post is about the fact that Pittsburgh gets guys who fit theie scheme and Tennessee doesn't. 

How about on offense? Well, they've drafted three Pro Bowl receivers, a Pro Bowl quarterback, but that's really where the skill players end. They draft heavy on the offensive line and, while the results haven't been stellar lately, they have a group that gets the job done. As much as I rip on Pouncey, I think he's got a very bright future ahead of him and Kemoeatu is a stud. I fully expect them to draft a lineman early on in this year's draft as well. In the last decade, Tennessee has had ten total players go to the Pro Bowl on the offensive side of the ball. Not a bad list until you consider that five of those players were drafted before 2000 including Bruce Matthews who was making Pro Bowls six years before I was born. Keep in mind also that this list includes Vince Young who got in after about 8 QBs dropped out and Kerry Collins who got in specifically because he was the QB of the best team in football that year (it's true!), not because of his lofty stats (or lack thereof). I do however consider it very encouraging that, at a glance, all of our Pro Bowl players on the offensive side this decade have been drafted by this team other than Collins of course. 

So what do I want you to take from all of this? Well, a casual observer will note that the Steelers don't really take risks with their picks. I don't want any risky, "he could be a top pick, BUT" players, I want the closest thing to a sure fire pick that's available. More picks like, say Derrick Morgan and Keith Bulluck, not players like Pacman Jones and Bo Scaife. Sometimes you'll get lucky like with CJ, but just as often you'll get burned and that's something we can't afford right now. Now that we've established that, build from the trenches up. Take a stud DT to take pressure off of Morgan, then draft heavy in the LB core; make sure that they can rush, cover, and punish the other team. Pittsburgh's core is the most feared unit in the entire league and for good reason. They're young, they're fearless, and maybe most importantly, they have several players that are interchangeable as the leader of the defense. Then, you can finally round out the secondary if that's even necessary. A stud safety never hurts. As far as offense goes, you obviously need a quarterback. I really have no idea how to approach this, but don't take a goddamn project; get someone who's ready to go by his second year at the latest. With all of the instant starters we've seen lately, it would be wise to  I don't know how long it's going to take, but the offense is a secondary concern for me anyway, the defense needs to be the main concern here. 

So, while all of this may seem like me sucking up to the Steelers, I hope you'll see that the method works. It's proven. The Steelers have won two Super Bowls this decade (say what you will about how they got them, the point is they got them) and figure to win their third in a couple of weeks. Last I checked, we have a pretty damn barren trophy case that needs some hardware. 

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This was a well-written post.

This was my favourite part:

(kick the pothead and keep the rapist; nice logic Rooney!)

In Reinfeldt We Trust

by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Jan 23, 2011 9:43 PM CST reply actions   1 recs

this is depressing

we never draft people to fit our system…
we just draft to umm draft.. and
…’:/ its just sad because, we almost never draft into our sytem

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by Ice0ne (CAJ) on Jan 23, 2011 9:51 PM CST reply actions  

Yay for sane, thoughtful FanPosts!

Excellent points all around, as much as it pains me to admit (I will keep my two-toned blue google thank you!).

Future ghostwriter of Jeff Fisher's autobiography, "Moustache Ride: A True Story of Love, Lies and Betrayal".

We've had five-game losing streaks for twelve years now...and in no way is that depressing.

by ronburgundy7427 on Jan 23, 2011 9:58 PM CST reply actions  

Fuck the Steelers.

Well written post though. Not so sure what you say about Kemoeatu though, he’s been fairly mediocre. He just looks good because the rest of their O-line is awful (including Pouncey, yay media hype machine!)

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by BonzosMontreaux on Jan 23, 2011 10:01 PM CST reply actions  

the thing about Kemoeatu

is that they run behind him a whole lot. most teams run behind their interior line anyway, but the Steelers do it on 64% of their carries. they had a top 10 running game this year and I think a lot of that is because of Kemoeatu. he’s a pretty damn good run blocker.

Get 'em.
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by danielreese05 on Jan 23, 2011 10:05 PM CST up reply actions  

One thing I like about the Steelers is that they look outside the box for talent. Namely, the CFL.

They had Stefan Logan for a few years as a good returner, and after the Super Bowl its expected they’re going to announce signing Andy Fantuz, a Saskatchewan Roughrider for the past few years. I don’t know if he’s got enough speed to make it in the NFL, but he’s got great hands and a solid build.

In Reinfeldt We Trust

by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Jan 23, 2011 10:09 PM CST reply actions  

Completely Agreed

Trenches is where you live and die. You have great Offensive and Defensive Line play, you can take your time to put everything else together.

My last two signatures were about Vince Young and Rusty Smith. I'm sure as hell not giving Collins room down here. So this will be my signature until the Titans show me something signature worthy.

But I digress, GO TITANS!

by natidawg on Jan 23, 2011 10:12 PM CST reply actions  

Although I'm obliged to point out...

The terrible offensive lines of the Steelers in the wake of Alan Faneca’s departure. Albeit they still did win a superbowl one of those years :P

My last two signatures were about Vince Young and Rusty Smith. I'm sure as hell not giving Collins room down here. So this will be my signature until the Titans show me something signature worthy.

But I digress, GO TITANS!

by natidawg on Jan 23, 2011 10:19 PM CST up reply actions  

I don't think were that far away

I just don’t think we develop our young talent enough. While the Steelers are rotating in young guys who are learning from other veterans on the team, we’re hiding our young talent on the bench until the veterans contracts are up. Then it takes longer for them to learn with the leadership gone.

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by CrazyTitan on Jan 23, 2011 10:13 PM CST reply actions  

I just skimmed it.

But it seemed well-written. And I tend to agree. I hate the steelers, but they’ve done things the right way.

"Do the Titans have a miracle left in them in what has been a magical season to this point? If they do, they need it now. Christie kicks it high and short. Gonna be fielded by Lorenzo Neal at the 25; he dishes it back to Wycheck; he throws it across the field to Dyson. 30, 40, 50, 40, 30, 20, 10, 5, endzone...touchdown, Titans! There are no flags on the field! It's a miracle! Tennessee has pulled a miracle! A miracle for the Titans!"

by TennesseeTyrants on Jan 23, 2011 10:17 PM CST reply actions  

During the whole Fisher arguements

I pointed to the fact that the Steelers have the best Pro-scouting department in the NFL.. It’s not so much the GM as it is the guys providing the information. They won’t over pay a player because they simply replace him.

GM can pull the trigger on who to draft, but only after the guys who give him the stat’s and assessments!

by white02slpss on Jan 23, 2011 11:59 PM CST reply actions  

Yes, Steelers do this best. Patriots second best.

Everything in this post he pointed out is correct. Honestly, this is how a franchise should be run. Everybody is assigned a task and they do it. The owners don’t really mettle in the daily chores of the coaches. No player, coach, or staff is BIGGER than the team, therefore they win and lose as a team (they didn’t even need their franchise QB for the first 3 games). The Patriots do this well too but they go a little overboard with it. They left themselves short one or two upper end veterans this year. I don’t really feel like we do horrible scouting (we have found a few talented players hiding under some rocks) but we do an awful job of getting them in a position to use those talents the best way possible.

      Anyway, awesome post! I hate the Steelers but they ARE a model franchise.

by Tyler George Nilson on Jan 25, 2011 6:15 PM CST up reply actions  

Not a horrible post, but quite a few flaws

1) You say we can learn to build from the inside out and be like the Steelers. This ignores that the Titans have had a better O-Line than the Steelers for the past 4 years. Though while you mention that the Steelers O-Line is not very good, they at least “get the job done”. Well, what the hell does that mean? That they win? Because our O-Line is better than theirs, and we haven’t won. Wouldn’t that tell you that it ISN’T a lack of attention to the trenches that the Titans suffer from???

2) In regards to the defense, you mention the Titans have 6 pro bowlers in 10 years. That’s pretty damn good, but obviously not good enough as the Titans defenses are usually mediocre. What this tells me is that it isn’t pro bowlers the Titans have trouble drafting, its filling in the positions around the pro bowlers. Using pro bowlers as your measurement stick for a good defense is just not good analysis. While talent is a huge part, defense (as is football as a whole) is about unit cohesion and a system that allows defenders to play fast while also not being so simple that a QB can just figure it out with a couple of look overs.

I would say amassing talent has not been the problem of the Reinfeldt-Fisher era. In many ways, the misuse of Kenny Britt and Randy Moss this past year is an icon for the problems of the Fisher era as a whole. Lots of talent, no freaking clue how to use it, followed by media games where the FO and coaches hold the players responsible while holding onto their jobs by the skin of 8-8.

I guess I would just say this post is misguided because you stuck to your premise, the Steelers are a model the Titans should follow, too religiously. I also think you falsely analyse the Steelers and why they are so good. The Steelers are good because they aren’t rigid and systematic, not because they are.

Yes, the Steelers have their philosophies, but when their talent doesn’t match their philosophies, such as the year they won the Super Bowl vs. the Cardinals, they change it. On offense, they had zero semblance of a running game and a completely ineffective offensive line. However, they did have a QB with an amazing ability to escape sacks and improvise along with a WR corps that was fast and intuitive. So what did they do? Built an offense around Roethlisberger improvising and his WRs getting open and making plays.

Even on defense, they aren’t dogmatic. From the mod 90s until they drafted and started Troy Palomalu, The Steelers let their LBs run wild while their secondary played very basic zone with some man mixed in, and their safeties had one job: don’t let the other teams WRs get behind them. Then they get Palomalu and they redefine the Safety position and turn him loose with his instincts, speed, and ability to read offenses as well as Peyton Manning can read a defense. He basically plays a free position and can do what he wants.

My biggest complain on Titans football under Fisher is that he sticks TOO RIGIDLY to his system, even when the talent doesn’t match the system. And then, of course, by the time he adjusts to his talent, it is too little, too late.

The lesson to learn from the Steelers is to have a strong organizational philosophy that one sticks by, but be willing to make adjustments to fit the exceptional individual talents that is acquired. Also, find a top 10 NFL QB. Lets not forget the Steelers didn’t start winning SBs again and under Bill Cowher were basically what Jeff Fisher is now until they found Ben Roethlisberger.

by T--Rac's Posse on Jan 24, 2011 3:01 AM CST reply actions  

Well said T-Rac

The problem with the Titans recently has been not adjusting to the talent on the team. You can cite several examples including the use of Randy Moss, how to use CJ (not run up Amano’s ass 3 times in a row), not finding a spot for Cook until the last two games of the season, blitzing Verner from the nickelback spot while leaving Witherspoon/Tulloch in coverage, etc.

The Titans have talent and have drafted well the past couple of years, but the coaching staff has refused to adjust to that talent. They continue to use CJ as if he’s Eddie George or Jared Cook as if he’s Frank Wycheck. That’s the problem…

by shawneriksmith on Jan 24, 2011 7:31 AM CST up reply actions  

I agree with both of you.

Although Danielreese is right, there is no doubt the Steelers draft well, the main reason they are so successful is the ability of the whole team to adjust and play freely.

by Los Blancos Chicca on Jan 24, 2011 7:45 AM CST up reply actions  

This nails it

To me at least, the entire Fisher coaching philosophy can be summed up with “The Big Book of Coaching says we must do this at this time and only this”. It’s rigidly systematic to a fault. The players are seen as blobs of muscle that fit into a machine, while completely ignoring the uniqueness of the individuals players and their respective strengths and weaknesses.

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by rothbard on Jan 24, 2011 7:56 AM CST up reply actions  

I agree Fisher wants every play run like a machine with no adjustments or instinct always clockwork.

Troy Polamalu wouldnt be as good if he played for Fisher. The steelers give him freedom to do what he wants and go on instincts sometimes but Fisher would never let him do that. He would bench Polamalu for Chris Hope if he tried that freestyle jumping over the line stuff.

by titansfan7 on Jan 24, 2011 11:13 AM CST up reply actions  

Re:
My biggest complain on Titans football under Fisher is that he sticks TOO RIGIDLY to his system, even when the talent doesn’t match the system. And then, of course, by the time he adjusts to his talent, it is too little, too late.

+1

by SuperHorn on Jan 24, 2011 2:06 PM CST up reply actions  

T-Rac I like how you said it

But it’s all MOOT because you said this!

“My biggest complain on Titans football under Fisher is that he sticks TOO RIGIDLY to his system, even when the talent doesn’t match the system. And then, of course, by the time he adjusts to his talent, it is too little, too late.

The lesson to learn from the Steelers is to have a strong organizational philosophy that one sticks by, but be willing to make adjustments to fit the exceptional individual talents that is acquired. Also, find a top 10 NFL QB. Lets not forget the Steelers didn’t start winning SBs again and under Bill Cowher were basically what Jeff Fisher is now until they found Ben Roethlisberger"

LIKE any team it’s about the QB. Even the great coach up in New England was fired and had a few shitty years till he struck lightning with a guy named Tom Brady. What were the Colts doing before Manning, How have the 49ers done since the end of the Montana/Young era? What was the Aint’s history before Bree’s?

With your negative comments aimed at Fisher just told us WHY he is a good coach. He continues to manage winning and 8-8 without having that Key guy.

With a QB that is more than just talented you could as a coach take more chances, But when you have to worry about your QB you tend to tighten things up and hope a mistake doesn’t come

by white02slpss on Jan 25, 2011 6:01 PM CST up reply actions  

I agree with this

Super Bowl winners by season:
2009 Brees
2008 Roethlisberger
2007 Eli Manning
2006 Peyton Manning
2005 Roethisberger
2004 Brady
2003 Brady
2002 Brad Johnson*
2001 Brady
2000 Dilfer*
1999 Warner
1998 Elway
1997 Elway
1996 Favre
1995 Aikman
The list goes on…

*Unless you have a TOP of the top defense (Ravens/Bucs)
or an upper end franchise QB that you can give the trust to in crunch time
and at least a decent coach (why hasn’t SD gotten one yet, hmm?)
You WILL NOT win a Super bowl.

We haven’t had met these requirements since 1999. (2008 can be argued but we didn’t actually have the absolute BEST defense or the franchise QB) And in 1999 we just ran into a QB that was slightly better than ours.

Therefore, draft like the Steelers? Yes! But first and foremost, look and look hard to find that franchise QB.

by Tyler George Nilson on Jan 25, 2011 6:57 PM CST up reply actions  

you've said it better than I could

I’ve been trying to adequately come up with a way to defend this for days now and I just couldn’t put it into words. and for the record T-Rac I appreciate the critique, I won’t claim to know more about football than a good portion of the good folks who post here and you just demonstrated why.

Get 'em.
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by danielreese05 on Jan 25, 2011 10:24 PM CST up reply actions  

For the record I absolutely hated giving them any credit.

I might have even had plausible deniability if it wasn’t posted on the front page. Thanks DanielReese

Seriously though I think what really bothers me is that even though we’ve had the same coach for 17 years, the consistency that should come from is since 2003 just hasn’t been there. Fisher had a quality run from 1999 to 2003 and since salary cap hell has truly had only one viable year as a contender in 2008. In between this team rides the rollercoaster up and down 5 and 6 game losing streaks, flip-flopping QBs, and uneven offseasons. One year we pick up quality free agents and the next we watch all our leaders go without picking up the phone. Just once I’d like to see them overpay on a free agent that actually mattered instead of slumming around second tier role players. Perhaps Albert was doomed to be a 100 million dollar bust, but you had Washburn to motivate him so who’s to say it couldn’t have worked. Instead you give him Jovan Haye and expect him to spin straw into gold and then you wonder why he leaves. I’d be damn frustrated to if all the hard work I put in on players to coach them into big money players had to be repeated every 3 years because the front office values a guy at 25 million and won’t match 30. Anyway I didn’t mean to add another novel to this thread, so I’m cutting myself off.

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by asbestos_man on Jan 24, 2011 3:53 AM CST reply actions  

this is kind of off topic but

i hope we have the number one pick next year, draft Andrew Luck and fire fisher. it might hurt next year but it will benefit in the longrun

by P.G. on Jan 24, 2011 9:45 PM CST reply actions  

I HATE THE STEELERS...

but I like watching their defense play. I mean I hate to admit that but their defense is beastly! Our defense is simple, we’ve seen it shine a couple of times. Draft a beast to take double teams and get pressure with the front 4. At least have One Coverage LB to take out elite TE’s or give the QB a small window. Have One FS and another CB to ball hawk when the ball is forced out quickly. But we left Big al go….Keith go and tried to make witherspoon into KB (nice try fish). Jones as much as I love him is just not a player who’s always going to be healthy…Nice article btw makes me dream

by Shibby Titan on Jan 25, 2011 6:58 PM CST reply actions  

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