Turns Out Chuck Cecil was Fired by the Titans
by Jimmy on Jan 21, 2011 9:08 AM CST
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PrintSo apparently at some point during the 2010 season Jeff Fisher signed Chuck Cecil to a double secret contract extension that was never reported in the media. That is a pretty big deal because it means that Cecil was actually fired by the Titans, not just told he wouldn't be brought back, and it means Bud Adams has to pay him in 2011. It is mind-boggling to me that Fisher still has a job. He has made terrible decisions time and time again, including this one, and yet he gets to keep coaching and keep being "one of the most respected coaches in the league."
I go back and forth on who is at fault for how bad the defense is. There is no doubt that Cecil was over-matched as a coordinator. One anonymous player told Jonathan Hutton this:
When I asked if he agreed with decision on Cecil, one Titans player told me "He was playing checkers and OC's were playing chess."
That is a pretty strong indictment on Cecil's ability to be a coordinator, but there is also no doubt that the some of the players on the unit just aren't very good.
How many players on the Titans defense would no doubt start on any given team in the league? I have four- Jason Babin, Jason Jones, Michael Griffin and Cortland Finnegan (he wouldn't be #1 on most teams, but he could be pretty much anyone's #2). I think Alterraun Verner would be considered for most team's starting nickel corner, but he isn't going to be in the top 2 on most teams. It would be hard for any coordinator to be successful with the odds stacked against them like that.
All of this goes back to Fisher. He moved Cecil up to coordinator, and he was in charge of drafting most of the guys that are on the current unit. Yet he will be running the show in 2011, and the media still says that he would get a job in a minute. Blows my mind..
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I'm just as befuddled as you are, Jimmy.
For the life of me, I couldn’t give you one reason why Fisher is still with the Titans?? But I will tell you one thing though……you know Bud is PISSED about having to pay Cecil for 2011….as tight as he is!!
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Get over it!
Fisher is our coach! I didn’t want him back but now that he is, can I please read a story on here without seeing Fisher criticism in the first few sentences. I read this blog everyday and it makes me not want to come back everyday knowing I’m going to find some personal opinions in every post that have Nothing to do with the story. I don’t post very often, so y’all probably don’t care what I think. But can we save the personal opinions for the comments section?!?!
by The Nasty One Lives on Jan 21, 2011 10:44 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
Well if you look up this page....
approximately six to eight inches, you will see this big long blue bar and in it you will read the wotd, “Comments.”
Hope this helps.
i was referring to
The opinions expressed in the initial story. I love this site. I just feel like opinions are for the comments section
by The Nasty One Lives on Jan 21, 2011 1:28 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Nope, sorry
I will always express my opinions in the things I write. This is a blog not a newspaper.
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Being objective
is above our pay scale!
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why does everyone assume this site is some sort of unbiased news site
first of all…have you looked at news sites? They are rarely unbiased.
In addition, and more importantly, this is a BLOG, This is designed for opinions.
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by DonFrancisco on Jan 21, 2011 11:20 AM CST up reply actions
It's a blog
By definition, it is opinion, not news. Don’t take it too seriously.
Also, the bulk of opinion by authors will drastically change on this site, based on events. VY will be a baby, then a hero, then a douchecanoe, then a martyr, etc. There was a long period of “the man is keeping VY down” toned posts.
If you enjoy reading reasonably well informed opinion, even if you don’t agree with it, then enjoy this blog for what it is. If not, stay with media outlets!
by numbertenox on Jan 21, 2011 11:24 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Rec'd for douchecanoe...we don't use that enough
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by DonFrancisco on Jan 21, 2011 11:26 AM CST up reply actions
fair enough
Like I said, I love the blog. Just offering something to think abo
by The Nasty One Lives on Jan 21, 2011 1:30 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Honest question
Don’t most coaches try to sign their assistants before their contract is up? The defense was forcing a lot of turnovers in that 5-2 start, and at that point our future looked a lot different than it ended up.
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by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Jan 21, 2011 9:21 AM CST reply actions
As long as their own job's not in jeopardy...
and their assistants are getting the job done….none of which was the case here…:-(
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by titansfan4ever on Jan 21, 2011 9:28 AM CST up reply actions
At 5-2 though neither were in jeopardy of losing their jobs
That’s why I would like to know when he signed the extension.
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by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Jan 21, 2011 9:34 AM CST up reply actions
There was nothing actually GOOD about our defense in the first half of the year
They were just making plays. Which is what players are suppose to do.
They were still giving up a retarded amount of yards and TE were doing cartwheels in the middle of the field… I really hope people don’t get contract extensions for that kind of performance.
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Yeah, Fisher could have waited until the end of the season
There was no need to extend Cecil mid-season. That was just stupid.
by shawneriksmith on Jan 21, 2011 9:38 AM CST up reply actions
Their points allowed was low and they forced a lot of turnovers.
Those, to me, are things that were good.
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by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Jan 21, 2011 9:39 AM CST up reply actions
And, if everything I am hearing is right
Cecil got the extension at the end of the season, not in week 7.
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"What if I was Peyton Manning?"- CJ to the ref after they picked up a personal foul flag for a late hit on him.
Almost as if he's doing shit behind Bud's back.
Ridiculous.
Vince Young is the new politics and religion.
Then this deal was ridiculous.
Bud should not have agreed to the deal, and you really have to question Fisher’s motives. At that point we knew what we had in Cecil.
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by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Jan 21, 2011 9:45 AM CST up reply actions
I just asked Hutton, Kuharsky and Wyatt on Twitter
when the extension was done. Hopefully one of them will respond.
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"What if I was Peyton Manning?"- CJ to the ref after they picked up a personal foul flag for a late hit on him.
If true
This was a idiotic move by Fisher and Bud. It also leads me to wonder if firing Cecil was something that was being pushed by Bud, because Fisher was ready to give Cecil another year.
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by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Jan 21, 2011 9:50 AM CST up reply actions
I guess this answers the question about timing of the move.
Dumb, dumb, dumb move by Bud to approve…Fisher is becoming more Machiavellian by the day.
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We've had five-game losing streaks for twelve years now...and in no way is that depressing.
by ronburgundy7427 on Jan 21, 2011 9:52 AM CST up reply actions
But really, we all knew that "bend don't break" shit wasn't going to last for long.
REGARDLESS, you do not give a new contract to someone that can not make mid game adjustments and let TE’s play on slip N’ slides in the middle of the field EVER.SINGLE.GAME!! <<<
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Isn't it a little too soon to discredit Verner?
The guy played pretty well as a rookie, who’s to say he won’t grow into a guy who any team in the league would want?
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We've had five-game losing streaks for twelve years now...and in no way is that depressing.
by ronburgundy7427 on Jan 21, 2011 9:28 AM CST reply actions
Having said that...very poor move on Fisher's part.
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We've had five-game losing streaks for twelve years now...and in no way is that depressing.
by ronburgundy7427 on Jan 21, 2011 9:29 AM CST up reply actions
I think Jimmy was saying that Verner will get there
but he wasn’t quite there last season
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Yeah but I think it's unfair to look at the defensive talent like that
So, per Jimmy, we have 4 players who could start for any team in the league…but we do have players that could start for a lot of teams in the league (Tulloch, Witherspoon, ATV, etc).
Remember, a lot of these guys did start for other teams: Witherspoon for the Rams/Eagles, Jovan Haye for the Bucs, Chris Hope for the Steelers (that was a while ago), etc.
I’m not saying this is an extremely talented defensive team, but there is talent on this defense. At least, more talent than how the defense performed this last year.
by shawneriksmith on Jan 21, 2011 9:35 AM CST up reply actions
How do you figure Tulloch and Witherspoon
Our LBs were TERRIBLE this season. TERRIBLE. Tully is a tackling machine, but he doesn’t make any plays. He had 1 pick and forced zero turnovers.
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That should say zero fumbles
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you left out his "stellar" coverage of TEs
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by DonFrancisco on Jan 21, 2011 11:28 AM CST up reply actions
He's pretty bad in coverage in general.
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We've had five-game losing streaks for twelve years now...and in no way is that depressing.
by ronburgundy7427 on Jan 21, 2011 11:29 AM CST up reply actions
Being a tackling machine
Gets you a starting spot on a lot of teams. I think, being fans, we can sometimes forget how bad/good other teams are. Not all LB groups in the league can tackle flawlessly or cover TEs flawlessly. Tulloch is better than your average LB…he’s not great, but he is better. He could start for several teams.
Our LBs weren’t great by any stretch of the imagination but I think that had more to do with scheme than anything else. In the beginning of the season, Witherspoon was blitzing like crazy and with great effectiveness. For some reason, Cecil/Fisher went away from that and began blitzing the nickelback (ATV) and leaving Witherspoon in coverage. Of course, that wasn’t as effective…
If Witherspoon is terrible, then how did he start for two different teams last year (Rams/Eagles)? The talent on this defense isn’t terrible…the use of that talent is.
by shawneriksmith on Jan 21, 2011 10:30 AM CST up reply actions
Fisher making bad decisions?
I can’t recall that ever happening…
Fisher being fired should have happened before Cecil getting fired
However both should have happened.
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Hey thanks again for switching mock teams yesterday
my brother has speech apraxia so he processes information slowly, and he got really behind when all the comments started flying in, which caused him to fixate on the Bucs and not just pick another team.
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by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Jan 21, 2011 9:41 AM CST up reply actions
It got crunk in that thread
I knew it was your brother…I was about to just assign you a team.
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Ya I'm really sorry for all the confusion I caused you gramsey
It won’t happen again.
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by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Jan 21, 2011 11:43 AM CST up reply actions
Dude...it was no big deal
You got nothing to apologize for.
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by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Jan 21, 2011 1:27 PM CST up reply actions
So, let's see
We have lost or eventually will lose the following coaches:
Jim Washburn (D-Line)
Craig Johnson (RB/QB coach)
Chuck Cecil (DC)
Mike Heimerdinger (OC…unless he makes a miraculous recovery from cancer)
But, yet, we still have Fisher?? And, Fish can only offer 1-year deals to any new coach he brings in from the outside…awesome…just f-ing awesome! We are becoming the Raiders…
Really though, when did Fisher jump head first of the sane-train?
I mean he’s usually makes at least one or 2 questionable moves in the offseason, but this is setting an all time record for dive bombs…
Bud didn’t want to lose out on Fisher’s contractmoney’s so he didn’t want to fire him, so….. Fisher fires his DC just after extending his contract, thus losing out on money either way?
How does this guy STILL have a job?!
Again I pose the question, after all of this (and im sure there is more to surface) do you think he will be held in such high regards as “the ultimate head coach” next offseason when he’s looking for another job? What do you think the players are thinking right now?
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Of course, he'll be regarded as one of the best coaches in the league
I mean, just imagine, the Titans could be worse!! Fisher is doing an awesome job just keeping a team together in Nashville!! Nobody can do any better!
by shawneriksmith on Jan 21, 2011 9:37 AM CST up reply actions
Maybe we should just play the season without coaches.
Can’t go any worse than with a bunch of hires nobody else wanted, right?
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by BonzosMontreaux on Jan 21, 2011 9:34 AM CST reply actions
Well, remember what Bum Phillips said...
There are 2 kinds of coaches…those that just got fired….and those who are getting ready to get fired. Sooo…that ought to leave us with some options, don’t you think?
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by titansfan4ever on Jan 21, 2011 9:37 AM CST up reply actions
Those that just got fired, those who are getting ready to get fired
And Jeff fisher.
Wow what a plate of hot mess!
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by MexicanTitanFreak on Jan 21, 2011 9:34 AM CST reply actions
Also
Bud Adams would have had to okay the new contract for Cecil would he not? So I don’t see how he can be ticked if he allowed the deal to go through.
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by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Jan 21, 2011 9:36 AM CST reply actions
The timing of the move would help a lot.
If it was during that 5-2 run, I could understand Bud letting it happen. If it was during the back half of the season, that is a little more curious and Bud has only himself to blame for approving it. Hindsight is 20/20.
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by ronburgundy7427 on Jan 21, 2011 9:41 AM CST up reply actions
I am dying to know when he did it
Like you said, its understandable if we were 5-2. But near the end of the season, how could Bud really approve such a deal, especially considering he was thinking about firing the coaching staff? And if its at the end of the year, you really to have to question Fisher’s motives.
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by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Jan 21, 2011 9:43 AM CST up reply actions
And I'd put Tony brown on that list
When healthy, he’s a top two dt for anyone. And not sure about babin, I like the guy, but he was on several teams and did not start. Understandably he was very improved this year, but I never really trust 1 year performances. Show me it again next year and I’ll sign on.
I doubt Tony Brown will be healthy again
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Fair enough
But same goes with jj. I keep telling ppl to watch for him, then he keeps getting hurt.
To be fair to Tony Brown
That seems to be the case for many defensive linemen. I know Tommy Harris, the DT for the Bears, is a great DT, but he always gets hurt. Maybe what seperates the great d-linemen from the elite d-linemen is their ability to stave off injury while play at such a high level.
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by Ch1c1tyT1t@n on Jan 21, 2011 10:09 AM CST up reply actions
ATV is a rookie
and he is a legitimate #2 corner. Corners make there biggest jump in the second year. With no pass rush in the second half of the season, no help in coverage from linebackers or Hope, he did just fine. Especially with an awful defensive coordinator and secondary coach. Terrible comment. Just look at our own division, Verner would have started on every team. He outperformed most corners taken in front of him, if not all of them. Verner is a guest on our blog, I find it downright pathetic you would post such a shortsighted statement.
its a dumb question
how many players would start on every team in the league? ……..we have one Titans player who is nice enough to dedicate some time to this blog, and we are going to write articles saying he isn’t good enought to start. Shortsighted, meaning he may very well be reading this.
Besides the fact he didn't say he couldn't start and it's a legitimate question
Just because he’s on the site doesn’t mean he’s free from criticism, and I some how doubt he expects differently or really cares. And that wasn’t really any criticism.
How is it a legitimate question
we don’t have one player who would start on every team in the league. You would have to be the best at the position to start for EVERY team. Right? So judging Chris Johnson on this year, he would not start for the Texans. It is criticism to tell a starter that “he isn’t going to be in the top 2 on most teams.” When in fact he woud be.
OK so change it to most
AND all I said was that I didn’t think he would. I didn’t insult him at all. Jason McCourty did an interview with me. I didn’t mention him. Why aren’t you up in arms about that??!?!? We had a Donnie Nickey interview once and I think he shouldn’t even be on the team. That a problem for you?
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"What if I was Peyton Manning?"- CJ to the ref after they picked up a personal foul flag for a late hit on him.
You don't think
it would be an insult to say to Verner next time you interview him, “You are lucky you play for the Titans, because you couldn’t start for most teams.”…….. You doing an interview with someone, might be a little different than actually having a Titans player contributing to the site, don’t you think?
So I shouldn't ever say anything bad about him?
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next time you should tell him that he would start for NFL All-Time team just so he keeps posting here
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by DonFrancisco on Jan 21, 2011 11:29 AM CST up reply actions
You guys are passing a lot of judgment on players that are playing with a DC as bad as Cecil
I’m basing a lot of their play on raw talent with little to no direction… I’m thinking a lot of these dudes would be that much better on a team with a coach that could well… COACH them.
Washy for instance turns bums into f-ing beasts. I’m 5’10 180 pounds and he could probably make me into a monster defensive end. That being said, imagine what some of these players could do if someone wasn’t “playing checkers” (literally or metaphorically) the whole time…
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by StPrattrick on Jan 21, 2011 10:32 AM CST up reply actions
I am not going to crown Verner the best corner in the league
just because he posts on the blog. He had a really good rookie year, and is my favorite player on the entire team, but no, I don’t think he would start on most teams in the league. That is just my opinion.
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"What if I was Peyton Manning?"- CJ to the ref after they picked up a personal foul flag for a late hit on him.
Verner has a long way to go.
But no one is more aware of that than him.
He was making strides throughout the entire year, though.
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by TennesseeTyrants on Jan 21, 2011 10:39 AM CST up reply actions
You are overrating the league
Every team has holes. Even at corner. I bet we could name 16 teams Verner would start for, considering we already have four in the division. No one said he was best corner in the league, but I couldn’t tell much difference between him and Finnegan.
is 16 every team?
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by DonFrancisco on Jan 21, 2011 11:30 AM CST up reply actions
No, but not every team
Has 11 guys on defense that can start for every other team. The Titans are not the only team in the league with players who you think would have a hard time starting for some other teams.
ATV is an above average CB. So is Finny…they both could start for other teams (maybe not every team, but most other teams). Tulloch, Witherspoon, and Brown are above average as well. This defense had enough talent to perform better than they did…sure, we can upgrade some positions but the Titans LBs were not the worst in the league. Same can be said for the CBs, safeties, and DL.
Can you name all of the players on the Jets defense? Other than Polamalu and Harrison, what other Steelers defensive players could start for any other team in the league? How about the Ravens defense (who started Chris Carr at CB)? How about the Chargers defense, who ended up #1 in the league (and whose coach I wanted the Titans to hire to replace Fisher)? Etc…not every team is loaded and yet those defenses still get the job done.
The defensive struggles fall on Cecil and the hiring and handling of Cecil falls on Fisher.
by shawneriksmith on Jan 21, 2011 11:43 AM CST up reply actions
i am not going to respond to all in this ost b/c it was long
but witherspoon and tulloch are NOT above average. Average at best…
Who does have the worst LBs in the league?
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by DonFrancisco on Jan 21, 2011 12:11 PM CST up reply actions
and when I say average at best I mean as starters
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by DonFrancisco on Jan 21, 2011 12:12 PM CST up reply actions
Average at best??
Witherspoon had 7 passes defensed, which is tied for 11th in the league among LBs this past year.
Tulloch had 6 passes defensed, which is tied for 15th in the league among LBs this past year.
Tulloch also had 159 tackles, which was 2nd in the league for all defensive players. It was his second consecutive 100+ tackle season.
Witherspoon had 91 tackles, which was tied for 56th in league for all defensive players. He also added on 3 sacks.
Note: with 11 defensive starters per team and 32 teams, there are 352 defensive starters in the league (approximately). Assuming 3.5 starting LBs per team, there are 112 starting LB positions in the league.
Don’t get me wrong…there were some coverage issues, especially on 3rd down. But, is that on the players or on the coaching? Did other teams adjust to the coverage the Titans were playing in mid-season and the Titans coaching staff didn’t adjust their gameplan? Or, did the defensive players skill level diminished over the span of a couple of weeks? What’s the more likely scenario?
I am not saying these guys are Pro Bowl level but they are above average.
If these guys are average, then what would you consider good?
by shawneriksmith on Jan 21, 2011 1:12 PM CST up reply actions
I agree with you and think the blame for their performance falls squarely on DC shoulders
Like I said before,
I’m basing a lot of their play on raw talent with little to no direction… I’m thinking a lot of these dudes would be that much better on a team with a coach that could well… COACH them.
Washy for instance turns bums into f-ing beasts. I’m 5’10 180 pounds and he could probably make me into a monster defensive end. That being said, imagine what some of these players could do if someone wasn’t "playing checkers" (literally or metaphorically) the whole time…
These are still very good players with terrible coaching.
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You can throw out those pass deflected numbers all you want
but if you watched the games you know that none of our linebackers could cover anyone.
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Tully has been a starter for 3 years now
and in that time he’s forced exactly 0 fumbles and made 1 INT.
forcing 1 turnover in 3 years is pretty bad for a MLB, especially since he was the guy who didn’t come off the field last year.
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Our problem though, we don't have anyone that much better waiting under the wings...
AT LEAST he’s a tackling machine and knows how to tackle, as apposed to some of the other players on the field, which is probably why he was still on the field.
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We already covered this
isn’t it pointless to say someone couldn’t start for every team in the league? Only the best player at each position could start for every team? My argument is simply he is a bonified starter and lots of teams would love to have him. To point him out as not being starter quality is wrong.
At corner the two best players could start for every team
so by using circular logic you could say that in this exercise only the 2 best corners in the league could start for every team because they are both on every team because they are the two best corners in the league.
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"What if I was Peyton Manning?"- CJ to the ref after they picked up a personal foul flag for a late hit on him.
It's not that shortsighted
I mean how many teams start rookie corners? Had Jmac not gotten injured we may not have seen as much of ATV as we saw this season. ATV did not win the battle during training camp, but he came in and performed extremely well, especially considering the circumstances surrounding the atrocious play of nearly the entire defensive backfield. In hindsight, yes ATV would start on every team in our division, but there’s teams outside our division as well.
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by Ch1c1tyT1t@n on Jan 21, 2011 10:06 AM CST up reply actions
You know everybody here loves ATV.
Jimmy was just being objective…..besides, he did say ATV would be a starter in the nickel package. That’s high praise considering (A.) It’s Jimmy!!……and (B.) He’s a rookie!!
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by titansfan4ever on Jan 21, 2011 10:13 AM CST up reply actions
Not that it matters
But the “anonymous” player was none other that MCM’s favorite special teamer, Donnie Nickey.
"He’s a good defensive backs coach, a top of the line position coach, but you’ve got to be that chess player and play that chess game with the other coordinator and it seemed like sometimes we were playing checkers," Nickey said. "I don’t want to say anything bad about Chuck, but he wasn’t the coordinator that Jim Schwartz was, and I think it was just a lack of experience. I’m sure that down the line, he’ll get another shot, and he’ll be better."
http://ten.247sports.com/Article/Chuck-Cecil-is-out-as-Titans-defensive-coordinator-12139
This makes me like Donnie Nickey
And then I realize he is an utter waste of a team spot and contributes nothing positive to the games
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by Ch1c1tyT1t@n on Jan 21, 2011 10:17 AM CST up reply actions
I appreciate the insight
but the players on defense are playing chess while Donnie Nickey is still Donnie Nickey… He’s got some balls to come out and say that about his DC or anyone on the coaching staff.
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by StPrattrick on Jan 21, 2011 10:17 AM CST up reply actions
^This
Why in the world do we care about Donnie Nickey’s opinion? He probably doesn’t even get to sit in on the defensive meetings.
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by Ch1c1tyT1t@n on Jan 21, 2011 10:25 AM CST up reply actions
Nickey is a backup safety
So, he probably is in the defensive meetings…but he never sees the field on defense either. I am going to give up trying to understand what goes on at BSP. If we’re going to start over with all of these new coaches, then just fire Fisher and let’s start over.
by shawneriksmith on Jan 21, 2011 10:33 AM CST up reply actions
Any chance we can scrounge a mob together and storm BSP?
Torches, pitchforks and all?? I’m pretty sure the MCM community won’t encounter much resistance pulling Fisher out of there at this point….
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by StPrattrick on Jan 21, 2011 10:37 AM CST up reply actions
With this bitter cold front
No one would expect us to riot
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by Ch1c1tyT1t@n on Jan 21, 2011 10:39 AM CST up reply actions
Exactly! And that's when we must strike...
The “Buffalo” flies at “Midnight”….
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by StPrattrick on Jan 21, 2011 10:41 AM CST up reply actions
Huh, this may be the year he gets cut then
by numbertenox on Jan 21, 2011 11:32 AM CST up reply actions
Nickey getting cut?
Fisher only fired Cecil because Nickey didn’t like him…if Nickey would have said Cecil is an amazing coach then Fisher would have kept him.
Nickey is going to be on this team for eternity…he’s our special teams ace!! You can’t cut him!!
by shawneriksmith on Jan 21, 2011 11:45 AM CST up reply actions
Feels like
we are the Caboose in this Sane Train. What could possibly be next? Never mind, don’t tell me. head spins out of control
OH YEA
This is gonna be a fun ride
by cowgirl attitude on Jan 22, 2011 5:00 PM CST reply actions
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