Tennessee Titans Daily Links: The Depressing Success Of Former Titans Edition
In an MCM interview from earlier this year Rennie Curran talked about his family's links to Liberia, which his parents fled two decades ago to escape a bloody civil war. Now, Curran is leading a group of around 50 family, friends and fellow NFL players back to Liberia. Curran has never stepped foot in the land where everyone else in his family was born, so he's excited to get to meet some of these folks he's only heard about or seen pictures of. This is a really cool story. Curran was on the radio on Tuesday, and I had no idea how many players of Liberian descent were in the NFL: guys like Tamba Hali, Visanthe Shiancoe, Ashton Youboty and more.
Now for something much more depressing: John Glennon breaksdown how former-Titans are helping teams in the playoffs, including WR Mike Williams and DE Raheem Brock (who had a career year with 9 sacks) in Seattle, CB Chris Carr and CB Cary Williams in Baltimore, TE Alge Crumpler in New England and TE Ben Hartstock and CB Marquice Cole in New York. I'll go ahead and say it: we would have been probably 2 wins better with Raheem Brock and LeGarrette Blount in 2010. Brock's pass rushing prowess could have bouyed a defensive line that was decimated with injuries, and Blount's ability to create yardage on his own might have provided some occasional rhythm for a boom-or-bust offense that went a month without hearing the beat.
In all of the talk about who the Titans could draft now that Andrew Luck is staying in school there's been one name left out: Missouri's Blaine Gabbert. Andrew Perloff at SI.com elevated him to no. 1 overall. Gabbert helped his stock by signing with super-agency CAA, which has represented 7 of the last 8 1st overall picks. I haven't watched a single snap of Missouri football, so he'll be one of the guys I have to catch-up on over the next few months. In that same mock draft we end up with a Missouri player, but it's DE Aldon Smith.
All that being said, I agree with Mike Mayock that Andrew Dalton may not go in the first two rounds, but he could end up being the best NFL QB of the group if he can get in the right situation. He's not going to blow it up in work-outs, but the interviews and character evaluations could be where he makes his money.
Bodog.com has betting odds on who will be playing QB for the Titans next year, and what role Vince Young will have in week 1 of next season.
The careers of Jay Cutler and Vince Young will be forever linked through the 2006 draft, and both careers have hit bumps in the road nobody saw coming. Still though, we really should have taken Cutler. He was a beast while Dinger was in Denver, and it's tough not imagine what Cutler could have done with the kind of defense and running game we had in 2008.
The New York Times' John Branch takes a look at clock management in the NFL with legendary flubs from recent history and comments from ex-coaches like Bill Cowher and Herm Edwards. Mike Lombardi's line about how Andy Reid, who he peggs as one of the all-time worst, should outsource his time management responsibilities to India is gold.
Titans Sized takes a look at who stays and who goes on the defensive line.
Former Titans OC Norm Chow could be moving on to the same spot at the University of Utah, the same state where he made his name at BYU.
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we should have kept brock and blount.
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keeping blount WAS going to happen
but plan backfired
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It was a horrible plan
They could have done that same thing with Ryan Durand and it would have worked just fine
by shawneriksmith on Jan 13, 2011 11:14 AM CST up reply actions
My guess is the fight in training camp scared them more than it did us...
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by August West on Jan 13, 2011 11:21 AM CST up reply actions
maybe
but they didn’t cut him until the day after all the cuts.
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but I think that's what kept him at the bottom of their list of 53
when he should have been a lock.
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by August West on Jan 13, 2011 11:25 AM CST up reply actions
He would've been 3rd RB!
In hindsight it looks like a bad decision…at the time, you were faced with keeping a 3rd RB who would probably not be active at all during the season, or an extra LB or DB who could play special teams.
Blount would not have done anything here that he is doing in Tampa, and they only signed him because of injuries they had at RB. Good for him for making the most of his opportunity, we have Chris Johnson and can find a bruising back at some point in the draft.
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We've had five-game losing streaks for twelve years now...and in no way is that depressing.
by ronburgundy7427 on Jan 13, 2011 11:24 AM CST up reply actions
crystal ball fallacy is getting overworked
There is no telling what would have happened with Blount on the roster in TN.
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Are you talking about my view on it?
I think it goes both ways, he may have made an impression and gotten on the field here. But everyone seems to think if we had kept him he would’ve been this 1,200-yard big back. Are we forgetting we have one of the best RBs in the league here as is?
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by ronburgundy7427 on Jan 13, 2011 11:27 AM CST up reply actions
no not necessarily you
just the whole “he would have never played”….no way to know
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Hey, Moss never played
So, I agree that Fisher would probably have never played a talented RB like Blount. That would have required too much thought to add in some creativity in the offense…for example, having Blount and CJ in the backfield at the same time. Fake a toss to CJ and run Blount inside or vice versa. There are many things you can do…you build great teams by keeping talented players and putting those players in positions that they can excel in. Running CJ up the middle 40+% of the time is not the optimal use of CJ.
by shawneriksmith on Jan 13, 2011 11:51 AM CST up reply actions
yet there were plays way CJ
wasn’t on the field: the Ringer carries. Maybe the would have been Ringer/Blount carries. No telling. I am pretty confidant though that he would have had nowhere near the production here that he had in TB
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Really?
“I am pretty confidant though that he would have had nowhere near the production here that he had in TB”
No shit? He was the starter in TB. Of course he’s going to be more productive with 20 carries instead of 6 he woulda had here.
That doesnt mean he wouldnt have passed Ringer on the depth chart & earned a few extra carries along the way.
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Which is what I said...
He could have easily had some of the carries that Ringer had.
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It's like what is gonna happen with Lavelle Hawkins when he goes to the Pro Bowl for Seattle
Once we cut him.
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I'd be interested to know
what happened with M. Williams. Did he finally just realize he needed to work or he was going to be out of the league? Or could our guys just not develop him. There’s an awful lot of smoke for us over the years at that position. Probably there’s a fire.
I also heard Fisher basically saying Britt’s mid-season injury was because he wasn’t warmed up during a period when the D was on the field for a long time. Well, what are the position coaches and trainers doing? Isn’t that partly their responsibility?
by numbertenox on Jan 13, 2011 12:10 PM CST up reply actions
Williams washed out here because he couldn't get in shape
he probably weighed 60 lbs more here than he did in college or now in Seattle. Can’t blame the Titans coaches for that.
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by August West on Jan 13, 2011 12:35 PM CST up reply actions
Probably happened. And he got the "or else"
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by BonzosMontreaux on Jan 13, 2011 12:37 PM CST up reply actions
I think he was like
Alge Crumpler at WR
maybe 6-5 ish and 260 280 maybe, and thats Jason Jones at Wr
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by Ice0ne (CAJ) on Jan 13, 2011 12:43 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah I can't hold that one against the coaching staff
was Fisher and Co. supposed to keep his fat butt on the roster for 2 years while he matured enough to realize you can’t play wide receiver if you weigh as much as Jamarcus Russell.
by asbestos_man on Jan 13, 2011 1:33 PM CST up reply actions
A story on Williams from a few days ago. You can see the weight change in two pictures here.
http://www.snfallaccess.com/2011/01/spotlight-on-mike-williams/
With Seattle now, he’s closer to his Detroit days.
Wow
so yeah, that could cut either way – how come we couldn’t inspire him to do that while he was here on one side, on the other maybe that last cut was just what he needed to buckle down.
The fact that he would have been the #3 RB doesn't make the decision any better.
Blount is better than Ringer, so keeping him at 3rd on the depth chart was a mistake on it’s own. The fact that the Titans missed on talent evaluation doesn’t excuse letting him go.
It matters in the sense that we could have afforded to carry a power back on the roster for the league minimum.
Fisher obviously regrets this decision, and I don’t think it’s productive to keep beating him up over the issue.
I just have a hard time identifying with fans that are comfortable with the idea of keeping other players like Donnie Nickey, for instance, who are similarly buried in the depth chart, yet clearly less talented.
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by asbestos_man on Jan 13, 2011 1:41 PM CST up reply actions
The only reason I am fine with it
Is because I know he would never play because Fisher would not change his ways.
I am more upset at Gage and Chris Hope getting playing time, and letting Mawae and Bulluck go than letting Blount go.
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come on gramsey, we're not talking about pass catchers
that’s where 99% of this rep for wasting talent comes from.
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what makes you say that?
No really, I’m interested
Get 'em.
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by danielreese05 on Jan 13, 2011 4:20 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I think there is something to be said
For Ringer putting up the numbers he did in college with every other team knowing he was Michigan State’s only threat and he was getting the ball over Blount running out of a spread offense. I think Ringer would have outdone Blount in Tampa if the roles had been reversed. Probably not the best thing to base it off of, but that’s my opinion.
Ringer has not been given an opportunity to prove himself here. He may not be CJ, but he is pretty damn good.
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and think of this also
Blount wasn’t the Tampa Bay Starter at 1st, he was 3rd string.
But, injuries Let him start
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by Ice0ne (CAJ) on Jan 13, 2011 4:50 PM CST up reply actions
Ringer has an impressive college resume, no doubt.
I still have concerns that he’s not suited for a zone running scheme, though.
draft
when watching the rose bowl, i was thinking dalton looked like a kid who could play in the nfl. it’d be great if he were around for our 2nd pick.
i noticed one of the top 25 prospects on si shares my last name. i hope he goes to the titans. it’d be like having a personalized jersey, but i could claim it as a players jersey as well.
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But who would we have cut to keep Blount and Brock?
I mean, this roster was stacked…you can’t let guys like Nickey, Mouton, Durand, or Haye go. Those guys have a ton of potential!!
by shawneriksmith on Jan 13, 2011 11:13 AM CST reply actions
Ball > Ford
seriously?
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i mean other way around
why keep Ford over Ball???
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I agree, Ball is more versatile.
Ford has been banged up and is a pass-rush specialist at best.
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by ronburgundy7427 on Jan 13, 2011 11:24 AM CST up reply actions
Isn't that Ford's responsibility?
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by Ice0ne (CAJ) on Jan 13, 2011 12:26 PM CST up reply actions
Ball isnt that good either.
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by Ice0ne (CAJ) on Jan 13, 2011 4:07 PM CST up reply actions
And, I have been watching any video I can on Blaine Gabbert
And, I just don’t see it. Why is this kid considered good at all? Any time there is any pressure near him, he gets happy feet and takes his eyes away from looking down the field. He really could have used another year in college…I think he’s going to drop once NFL teams actually start looking at film on him.
I do like Ryan Mallett. He’s not perfect but he stands in the pocket strong and delivers the ball well. I know people don’t like his mobility that much but people said the same thing about Manning, Marino, and Brady…mobility is not needed to be a good QB. Mallett is pretty accurate, a good decision-maker, and has a really strong arm. If his personality and “intangibles” check out then I would seriously consider taking this kid with the #8 pick.
by shawneriksmith on Jan 13, 2011 11:19 AM CST reply actions
he throws the best fade I've seen in a long time
that pass was border-line unstoppable when he had enough time to set it up.
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by August West on Jan 13, 2011 11:20 AM CST up reply actions
for some reason
mallett causes all of my major-douchebag-sensors to peg
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by August West on Jan 13, 2011 11:22 AM CST up reply actions
I think Philip Rivers is a huge douchebag and can't stand him.
Having said that, I would take him as a QB here without a doubt, despite his douchebag-ness.
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by ronburgundy7427 on Jan 13, 2011 11:29 AM CST up reply actions
Rivers douchebaggery
is entirely different kind of doucebaggery than what I get from Mallet. Yes this is entirely nonsense, and douchebaggery may be a new word. Really it’s just the “vibe”.
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I kind of get that a little too
So, that’s why I put the disclaimer of checking out his personality and “intangibles” before drafting him…but looking at his play on the field and it is pretty solid. Not perfect, but solid…almost any QB, other than Manning or Bradford, is a little of a crap shoot drafting, but the Titans need a QB. Mallett at least deserves consideration.
by shawneriksmith on Jan 13, 2011 11:48 AM CST up reply actions
I agree.
I think some people would not be throwing him under the bus had he won the game for Arkansas in the Sugar Bowl.
It’s best to look at the big picture. His stats are incredible.
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Looking down the thread.
I not going to go out of my way to praise Mallett’s mobility, because the only amount of mobility he needs is the same amount Marino and Manning have: 1 step left, 1 step right, 1 step forward, or 1 step back then throw. The real drawback with Mallett has to to with the Bobby Petrino system, because no QB in a long list of good collegiate QBs has ever been a productive pro.
by asbestos_man on Jan 13, 2011 1:38 PM CST up reply actions
and......
he’s already used to his receivers dropping passes. he’ll be right at home here. he’ll luv nate.
by NJ Titans Fan on Jan 13, 2011 5:25 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Bradford was definitely a crapshoot with his injury concerns.
Looks like the Rams made the right decision, but at the time he was a huge durability concern.
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by ronburgundy7427 on Jan 13, 2011 11:56 AM CST up reply actions
he will always be a durability concern
one big hit to that shoulder and he could be back under the knife and a huge ? to ever return. he just didn’t take “that” hit this year.
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I have never liked that thinking either
If you’re not going to draft a guy because you have a fear that he might get injured some time during his career, then you shouldn’t be drafting anybody…injuries are a part of the game. Anybody can get injured…Brady missed an entire year with a knee injury. Look at Stafford in Detroit…never really injured in college but has yet to stay healthy in 2 years in the NFL. You never know with injuries…that should almost never factor into the equation.
by shawneriksmith on Jan 13, 2011 6:38 PM CST up reply actions
having seen gabbert and mallett
I’d take mallett everytime, dbag or no.
by PocketfullofPoseys on Jan 14, 2011 12:59 AM CST up reply actions
best comment I've heard in awhile.
I am also hoping we draft Mallett.
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Here is some video on what I am talking about Blaine Gabbert.
Look at :20 into the video…he leaves the pocket when no one is around him.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XW69HWngSdk&feature=player_detailpage#t=22s
Look at 1:20 into the video…he takes his eyes off down the field and starts moving around frantically in the pocket.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XW69HWngSdk&feature=player_detailpage#t=83s
Look at 1:54 in the video…he does a similar thing, but he does complete the pass.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XW69HWngSdk&feature=player_detailpage#t=114s
And at 2:39…why is he running??
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XW69HWngSdk&feature=player_detailpage#t=160s
I’m not saying he can’t be a good QB…but he is not 1st round material at all.
by shawneriksmith on Jan 13, 2011 11:39 AM CST up reply actions
I never like faulting a guy for the offense he plays in
Bradford played in a “spread” style offense but you could see that he had good pocket awareness, incredibly accurate, and had a high football IQ.
I just don’t see it with this Gabbert kid…it just scares me any time I see my QB running around in the pocket with his eyes not down field because a defensive lineman is 2 yards away. Pocket awareness is critical in the NFL…I just don’t see Gabbert having any right now. He may develop it in the future but not right now…and so I don’t see him worth being a 1st round pick. I would even hesitate in the 2nd round…
by shawneriksmith on Jan 13, 2011 11:46 AM CST up reply actions
i dont either, sure he threw for 400 yds against my Hawkeyes.
but when you’re passing every down, that’ll happen.
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Right now I'm not of the opinion that any of the top QBs are round 1 picks
I’m kinda flummoxed by Gabbert right now as well. His stats are not particularly great and he plays the spread an offense known to inflate stats in the Big 12, which isn’t known for defense.
I like Mallett over Gabbert, Newton and its been awhile since I saw a Jake Locker game. I like Andy Dalton as a player, but I really want to see the combine so we can get a look at all these guys including Devlin, Ponder, and Stanzi. The earliest right now I would think about any of these guys right now is 40.
by asbestos_man on Jan 13, 2011 1:54 PM CST up reply actions
Now that Luck is out of the draft, I'm not crazy about any of the QB's in this draft
Titans please draft defense at pick 8
by TitansFan4life on Jan 13, 2011 2:21 PM CST up reply actions
agreed
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by Ice0ne (CAJ) on Jan 13, 2011 4:09 PM CST up reply actions
I think Mallett definitely has the most NFL-ready arm
He’s very strong, pretty accurate, and does throw a very nice fade, which is not common for a rookie QB. But from what I’ve seen I think he does have a tendency to play sloppily under pressure. The end of the Arkansas-Alabama game comes to mind… much of the game was back-and-forth, but when Arkansas was trailing in the 4th quarter by only one score, Mallett threw 2 picks on back-to-back drives and Alabama pulled away.
Then of course in the Sugar Bowl, he forced a throw into very tight coverage at the end of the game that OSU picked off to seal the win. I know Arkansas probably would have won that game if the receivers didn’t inexplicably come down with a serious case of the dropsies, but they were still close to the end zone and had time to win with a go-ahead touch down with 2 or 3 good plays at the end. Mallett made one, but couldn’t make the second.
The most apt comparison I can think of between Mallett and a current NFL QB is Jay Cutler. But for some reason, I feel like he also has Ryan Leaf potential…
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Mallett shouldnt have even had to make a play.
When Arkansas blocked that punt, the guy could have picked it up and walked into the endzone. Instead, he fell on it with no OSU player around him.
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you should also watch the LSU or Georgia game highlights.
he was phenomenal and outright won the game for them.
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UGA has a craptastic D
doesn’t really count for much vs them
by nolesbroncos3456 on Jan 13, 2011 12:22 PM CST up reply actions
Mallett completely immobile? yea right, check out the vid.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p1rbZo2xO9I
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you know it, I've watched most of Arkansas's games this year. the kid is amazing.
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He Jukes a D-lineman and now he's mobile?
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by Ice0ne (CAJ) on Jan 13, 2011 12:31 PM CST up reply actions
also in the video: moving outside the pocket to throw the ball.
he has better numbers than Terrelle Pryor outside the pocket passing wise.
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KC can move out the pocket
Thats why i see Mallet still being a younger KC.
KC juked a pass rusher, Somehow, But he’ll sit in the pocket, and take a sack instead of escaping, and he crumbles under pressure
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by Ice0ne (CAJ) on Jan 13, 2011 12:45 PM CST up reply actions
Taking a sack > KC scrambling
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Pryor cant throw for shit
I watched every Buckeyes snap. Dude is simply an average passer. That stat does nothing to improve him.
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telling me he's a better passer than Pryor
does nothing to help your case
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by danielreese05 on Jan 13, 2011 4:26 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
walterfootball has us taking Aldon Smith
by nolesbroncos3456 on Jan 13, 2011 11:33 AM CST reply actions
Hey maybe we can trade CJ for Blount!
Then we’d be unstoppable right? He’s so VALUABLE!
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by BonzosMontreaux on Jan 13, 2011 12:06 PM CST reply actions
let's do that!!
trade CJ right now before Fisherball ruins him
by nolesbroncos3456 on Jan 13, 2011 12:11 PM CST up reply actions
why would we trade RB for RB??
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by numbertenox on Jan 13, 2011 12:15 PM CST up reply actions
I just honestly don't see the infatuation here.
He definitely doesn’t get 1000 yards if he’s here. We STILL wouldn’t have any blocking from our line. Why is he so valuable when he can’t pass block, can’t play special teams, and can’t fight out Ringer?
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by BonzosMontreaux on Jan 13, 2011 12:23 PM CST up reply actions
beacuse you don't let talented players leave if you can help it
and we could have prevented it.
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by August West on Jan 13, 2011 12:37 PM CST up reply actions
But how would we know he was talented?
He would have never had the opportunity to prove it.
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We knew he was talented
from camp and preseason games.
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Preseason is about all we've seen of Ringer
outside of his blocking and 1 carry per game.
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And Blount couldn't overtake him then.
And again, which game specifically are you thinking we win with Blounts 1 carry?
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by BonzosMontreaux on Jan 13, 2011 1:03 PM CST up reply actions
Blount was absolutely more productive than Ringer
he just carried a shit-load more baggage. Everybody was a little worried about Blount’s temper. Hell, that’s why he wasn’t drafted.
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It's not about a particular game
it’s the steady movement he could have brought to an offense that didn’t have one steady component all year.
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Don't make claims like that if you can't back it up.
I can say we’d have lost 2 more games with him and give the same non answer you just gave.
I was never pro cutting Blount, and i’m not now. But this pining for him has gotten beyond ridiculous. He would have had middling to bad stats if he had stayed here, and nobody would be high on him anymore. All the Blount supporters convienently ignore our O-Line issues and somehow just assume that he would break any tackle that CJ didn’t because he is large. I pose the question, how many carries of Blount’s did you watch that weren’t on the highlight reel? He breaks far less tackles than anyone here claims, and his vision is average at best. He is also a liability in pass coverage and cannot play special teams. Where is the value other than this mythological and vague “He’s a big back, so there” logic?
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by BonzosMontreaux on Jan 13, 2011 3:03 PM CST up reply actions
I said we'd win 2 more games with Blount AND BROCK
a significantly better D-line and improved power running game would’ve helped in both Indy games, the Washington game, and the first Texans game. In all of those games we could have used a few ugly first downs to get some rhythm and give the D a break. We could’ve also used more of an edge pass rush, especially after Brown, Marks and Jones were out/hurt in the middle.
I’ve addressed all of your other points further down in this thread.
And don’t get pissed at me because your reading comprehension failed.
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So now you have gone down to the insults.
Cool. Time to call this off then. Represent the site and all that.
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by BonzosMontreaux on Jan 13, 2011 11:02 PM CST up reply actions
I'd say I've kept it quite civil.
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lol what insult?
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What would he ever have done here behind CJ?
And please do tell me where having Blount would have gotten us a win? This is the same kind of crap that happens every year. Fans get infatuated with one guy from training camp on. He’s gone. Get over it. He probably has 1/10 the production if we keep him, and then nobody is high on him after that.
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by BonzosMontreaux on Jan 13, 2011 12:43 PM CST up reply actions
Dominique Edison would be an All-Pro right now if he were on the team.
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We've had five-game losing streaks for twelve years now...and in no way is that depressing.
by ronburgundy7427 on Jan 13, 2011 12:54 PM CST up reply actions
I have no idea what to make of this statement.
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by BonzosMontreaux on Jan 13, 2011 12:56 PM CST up reply actions
Sarcasm, that's about it.
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We've had five-game losing streaks for twelve years now...and in no way is that depressing.
by ronburgundy7427 on Jan 13, 2011 2:46 PM CST up reply actions
Oh, right. Seeing how it was in reply to me you'd think i'd get the clue.
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by BonzosMontreaux on Jan 13, 2011 2:59 PM CST up reply actions
You can't compare RB to any of the other positions...
Fisher loves the run game, and when the offense couldn’t get any bit of rhythm I have no doubt that he would have turned to Blount on some series over Ringer and CJ, and maybe that evens out the offense.
I think CJ is the best back in the NFL on most Sundays, but his inefficient style compounded the problem when the wheels fell off of the offense because we couldn’t block like we did in ‘09. Blount wouldn’t have needed as much blocking set-up for him because he can bulldoze guys over,which neither CJ or Ringer can do well.
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He does not bulldoze somebody every play.
Still dodging the “Which game would we win?” question.
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by BonzosMontreaux on Jan 13, 2011 1:06 PM CST up reply actions
I answered it back up top...
you don’t think Blount runs with a ton more strength than Ringer , CJ and about 90% of NFL running backs?
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No.
He doesn’t use his size consistently and doesn’t power through people as much as you’d like or think he would, and he has terrible vision.
I've seen him break through tackles a lot more than anyone we have.
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Hell, LenDale got stoned behind the line sometimes too
doesn’t mean we weren’t better off with his style in the mix
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I find it odd
that Lendale white never ran over ANYONE
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by Ice0ne (CAJ) on Jan 13, 2011 2:07 PM CST up reply actions
Can anyone pull up that 2009 jet's game?
or most of 2008.
by asbestos_man on Jan 13, 2011 2:14 PM CST up reply actions
I'm not saying he's the next Earl Campbell
but he does run with more power than anyone we’ve had in a long time. He’s not a Hillis/Jacobs/Jammal Lewis kind of battering ram, but he can still be a bruiser who gets efficient yardage.
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Blount's DYAR rankning was 12 spots higher than CJ's
and his success rate was 6% higher. I know efficiency stats aren’t kind to CJ, but Blount absolutely could have helped us tremendously this year.
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Tremendously?
What 3rd string RB has EVER had a “tremendous” effect on a season?
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by BonzosMontreaux on Jan 13, 2011 3:00 PM CST up reply actions
If u really think Blount wouldnt have surpassed Ringer, ur not paying attention.
How many times did CJ get stuffed in a situation where we needed 2yds or less?
Blount coulda gotten some of those. That is valuable.
Simple as that.
Fisher woulda used him in those spots, like they did LenDale.
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I don't care
LenDale in 2008 had 123 more DYAR and a Success Rate 15% better than CJ this year. Does that mean no LenDale was the reason the run game was ineffective this year?
I love how you are saying all this like you coach the team and could make the decision to play him.
What if I told you we could get a Hall Of Fame receiver to play for the Titans?
You would guess we could at least put him on the field regardless of whether we had anyone who could get him the ball, right?
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This argument is getting specious
just because the coaching staff has made some bad calls when it comes to guys who catch the ball doesn’t mean they’d waste a power RB who brought something valuable to the table.
I mean what’s the point of this argument that’s pro-cutting Blount? If you’re pissed at Fisher, well we all are, but that doesn’t justify cutting Blount over about 5 other guys who stayed.
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by August West on Jan 13, 2011 1:13 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I'm not pro-cutting Blount. It was a mistake.
I am saying that our hindsight is 20/20 on this. We would never know if he was any good or not because he would have never played.
The argument is whether or not Fisher should change his plan to use a big back like Blount. He would not have done it even if he had stayed.
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What do you mean hindsight
we were ALL pissed about this when he got cut. It’s not like the reception was tepid.
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here and here are good examples…
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Ahh Memories
This probably would have gone away had Blount gone to the Bucs and done nothing, but since he ran for over 1,000 yards and made a few highlight reels a lot of us don’t want to let it go. Six months of a bad economy qualifies as a recession so I think six months of people being pissed about it and bringing it up over and over again (myself included) qualifies this as certifiable cluster####. Can I get an one clap?
by asbestos_man on Jan 13, 2011 2:08 PM CST up reply actions
Didnt Fisher use LenDale? Wasnt he a big back like Blount?
I betcha they would started using him once they realized the O-line sucked & CJ wasnt going to pick up that 1yd plunge when they needed it.
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Wow, that set that one off again.
It’s like a scab that keeps getting pulled off every month ;-).
We’ll have new stuff to argue about next year….
with all these comments you would think VY was involved
for the record they should have kept Blount and he is better than Ringer (You can disagree if you want gramsey)
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by DonFrancisco on Jan 14, 2011 11:09 PM CST up reply actions
All this talk about former Titans helping other teams to the playoffs
But people were saying that about Justin Gage in 2008 too and look where he is now?
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Our good players have to Damn near kill themselves, to get field time.
by datboybevans on Jan 13, 2011 1:41 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Right
Britt, CJ, Griff, Babin, Roos, Stewart, Finnegan, Scaife and so on all took so long to get on the field once they got here.
There are issues, but lets not fall back on over-simplifications.
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what team has drafted more pro-bowlers over the last 6yrs?
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they bring up points that dont matter..
Being pro bowl has nothing to do with team success.
by datboybevans on Jan 13, 2011 9:21 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
having pro bowl players
helps with team success.
Get 'em.
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by danielreese05 on Jan 13, 2011 9:49 PM CST up reply actions
I haven't been particullary impressed by Gabbert
Mallet to me is the better QB. Gabbert is more athletic but I just haven’t seen him perform on the field.
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why all the Gabbert hate?
his deep ball is an absolute thing of beauty. one of the best I’ve ever seen; just give him 3 seconds to set it up and he Britt will be smashing records in no time. I don’t see any huge upside other than that, but I also see no big holes in his game either. what’s everyone’s concern?
Get 'em.
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So whats your guys thoughts on Cam Newton?
Not just for us but as a pro in general
He reminds me of Tim Tebow a little
Probably a better passer…just based on the limited Auburn games I saw this year, I would probably have a late 1st or early 2nd round grade on him.
Like I said above, I really only see one QB worth taking in the top 10, and that’s Mallett. And, even he may be a little bit of a reach (but the Titans need a QB).
by shawneriksmith on Jan 14, 2011 9:07 AM CST up reply actions

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