A Bronco Fans Asks: Do the Titans want Kyle Orton?
Multiple sources have reported that the Denver Broncos' FO are putting Kyle Orton on the trading block (no surprise), and are demanding at least a 2nd round pick for compensation. Would the Titans give that up?
Over at the SBNation site of the Broncos (MileHighReport) there is no consensus on whether or not we will end up getting a 2nd round pick for Orton. Frankly, my opinion is that his current worth is a mid-3rd rounder. But some believe that there will be a small bidding war for Orton's services, and that though the initial offerings would be low round picks, that eventually one team would step up and be willing to to give up their 2nd-rounder to get him. They cite the numerous teams that need a QB, believe they can compete with a competent QB in the near future, and don't necessarily want to take the risk on a 1st round pick on Locker/Mallet/Others and have to wait as their window closes while the QB grows. Those teams would include the Vikings, Cardinals, Titans, Dolphins, and maybe a team like the Niners (being in such a weak division). They also believe that there's a chance a team who wants a young QB would also want a veteran while their QB is being groomed, and those teams include the Panthers, Bengals, and Bills, especially with Orton only being under a one year contract.
The argument for us falling short of a 2nd round pick, and settling for something like a 4th or a 5th, is that although there is a large contingent of teams that could use a proven QB now, there is also plenty of options for QBs not coming out of the draft. Vince Young, Kevin Kolb, and Donovan McNabb can all be cited as other possibilities for those teams previously mentioned instead of Orton. Not to mention that those teams might choose to take a rookie QB instead.
Both sides have valid arguments in my opinion, and before I keep boring you with Bronco-related material, I'll pose the obvious question. Do you want the Titans to trade a 2nd round pick for Kyle Orton?
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If you're one of those Titans fans that's unfamiliar with Orton, here's his statline (13 games started)
QB Rating: 87.5, 3653 yards, 20 TDs, 9 INTs, and a completion percentage of 58.1% on 1952 attempts.
To be honest, Kyle Orton was never well received in Denver, although there was a good minority who always liked him. This is most due to the fact that Orton is not that flashy, sexy QB that most fans clamor for at the position. He will usually not be the reason you win the game, but he takes pride in making sure that he's never the reason you lose. He simply never got his feet wet in Denver, after being brought in as the replacement for Jay Cutler the fans/media never really gave him a chance. Add on the drafting of Tebow this year, the fans were constantly campaigning for the benching of Orton, even though he led the league in yards for a good proportion of the year. But Orton can play, he can lead a winning team, and he can make a lot of plays. No matter what team he plays for next year, I can almost guarantee he'll simply put up Top 10-Top 20 QB production. I think it's important to note he had most of his success this year with the complete lack of a running game, and many speculate that he played through some games knowing that if Tebow touched the starting field, it would be tough for him to win his job back.
Strengths: Accurate, Great Leader, Accuracy and ability to throw deep, Goes through his progressions well, He Protects the Football, Very Quiet and just goes about business, Consistently makes the right decisions
Weaknesses: Lack of mobility, Has trouble throwing under pressure, His small amount of picks seems to come at the wrong time
Thanks and good luck on the upcoming season and 2011 draft!
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There's no way I would give a second for Orton.
It’s obvious that Tebow is the Bronco’s future. Why pay a second round pick when say McNabb goes to free agency for free?
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by trevor2013 on Jan 12, 2011 5:19 PM CST reply actions 2 recs
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for the truth
At least we are better than the Texans
by MikeGriffFan27 on Jan 13, 2011 7:33 PM CST up reply actions
I can't believe you posted this crap!
Kyle Orton is Jeff Fisher at QB. Gets more credit for his job than he deserves and dissappears in the big game. They both excel at being mediocre so it could be a match made in purgatory…..
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by TitanManX on Jan 12, 2011 5:51 PM CST reply actions 2 recs
I've said it before and I'll say it again
fuck him and his neckbeard, the last thing we need is another little bitch at QB.
Get 'em.
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by danielreese05 on Jan 12, 2011 6:06 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
NOOOOOOOOOO!
I hate Kyle Orton. Most of his stats came in garbage time, he lacks leadership and, his comments after our game were hilariously stupid.
If some teams pays a 2nd round pick for this guy, John Elway should be sending that organization monthly gift baskets.
Someone needs to tell Bud that Voldemort was the villain.
by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Jan 12, 2011 6:13 PM CST reply actions
was it garbage time
when they beat us?
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our whole season was garbage time
Get 'em.
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by danielreese05 on Jan 12, 2011 9:01 PM CST up reply actions
So you're using our game and extrapolating it to the whole season?
How does that make sense? The Broncos were involved in plenty of blowouts- many of which resulted in Orton gaining a lot of passing yards when the other team had already secured the game.
Someone needs to tell Bud that Voldemort was the villain.
by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Jan 12, 2011 9:05 PM CST up reply actions
meh, not saying he's the greatest QB of all time
but he would be perfect as a veteran “stop-gap” while TN rebuilds @ QB. Unless of course you prefer KC….
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At this point
I can honestly say I would prefer Kerry Collins. At least Collins sucks all the time and doesn’t whine like a titty baby.
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Wrong
Kerry has balls. Orton doesn’t. Kerry plays through a jacked-up finger or two. Orton would cry and tell CJ to run the ball 50 times cuz he doesn’t want to hurt himself
At least we are better than the Texans
by MikeGriffFan27 on Jan 13, 2011 7:36 PM CST up reply actions
I know I'm in the minority here
but I would like to see Orton on the Titans next year. I’m not so sure about a 2nd round pick, but I think he would fit in well with our team.
by Gas-House Gorilla on Jan 12, 2011 6:44 PM CST reply actions
as a player? I think he's alright, sure
but as a person? hellllllll to the no. I can’t put up with a full year of his crap
Get 'em.
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by danielreese05 on Jan 12, 2011 7:30 PM CST up reply actions
Am I missing something
Other than calling us dirty, did he do something else? Everyone keeps acting like he’s a bigger baby than VY. Serious, did I miss something? I’ll admit, I don’t know much about his off field personality.
by Gas-House Gorilla on Jan 12, 2011 9:10 PM CST up reply actions
he complains about every defense that hits him hard
Steelers, Titans, etc.
the way he said it just put him as PE#1 on my list: “I don’t think they’re tough; I think they’re cheap.”
"If that’s the type of player Cortland Finnegan wants to be, well then he’s a cheap player, not a good player."
cool Kyle. so tell me again, what have you done?
Get 'em.
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by danielreese05 on Jan 12, 2011 9:19 PM CST up reply actions
And he really isn't good enough to be talking like that.
If he was Brees/Rivers/Manningish and bitched like that, no problem.
But he’s not.
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cool Kyle. so tell me again, what have you done?
Beat the Titans…
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i did?
I get you don’t like his whiney bitchiness. ok. But TN needs a QB, no?
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No
We are going wildcat only, all next year, with Cj and britt
by Indiana Titan on Jan 13, 2011 10:28 AM CST up reply actions
You said he beat the Titans this year
I said that is not exactly something to hang your hat on.
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since when does beating a 6-10 team count as "something?"
Get 'em.
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by danielreese05 on Jan 13, 2011 4:40 PM CST up reply actions
Not a chance he's worth a 2nd rounder
Can I get a one clap?
by asbestos_man on Jan 13, 2011 6:01 PM CST up reply actions
Question!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Who with our 2nd pick could we get that would make a bigger impact this coming year then Orton?
Bruce Carter. Jurrell Casey. Rahim Moore. Hell maybe Ryan Mallet.
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Maybe it's my Google
But I couldn’t find any stats or anything proving that they can make an impact at the NFL level.
The sarcasm in my question may have been missed, but what I was trying to get at is that NO draft pick is a proven at the NFL level. Orton has proven that he can produce at the NFL level and when it’s all said and done He may just be our best option to win in 2011.
Because we know we need a QB and if you look at the list of QB’s who are avail then you need to grade them out and ask yourself. Where does Orton grade out compared to what is avail?
It’s realistic to say he grades out better than any potetial 2nd round pick.
With that Said.. I highly doubt it would be a 2nd round straight swap.
by white02slpss on Jan 13, 2011 6:04 AM CST up reply actions
a good fantasy qb, but it ends there.
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by stetix01 on Jan 13, 2011 7:44 AM CST reply actions
As of now it's a moot discussion anyways.
Seeing as no one can trade players with CBA stuff up in the air. If that was worked out…no way would I give anything more than a fourth-rounder for him.
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by ronburgundy7427 on Jan 13, 2011 10:38 AM CST reply actions
If I know nothing else about Kyle Orton
It’s that he definitely does not ‘Just Win’, and I need that in a quaterback.
Seriously though, he averaging 38 attempts per game, good for 3rd in the league. Ranked 10th in total attempts, and probably would’ve been higher if he played the last 3 games of the season. He was very very involved in the Broncos offense. So why did they only win 4 games? Yes I know, their defense was crap, but the Broncos only scored less then 20 points in 8/13 games with Orton. This is a completely made up stat, but in my opinion, it’s the offense’s job to put 20 points on the board, and the defenses’s job to hold the opposing team under 20. If Orton were a free agent, then I would be all for pulling the trigger. But a 2nd round pick is too high.
Also, is it wrong for me to not like babies playing under center?
My last two signatures were about Vince Young and Rusty Smith. I'm sure as hell not giving Collins room down here. So this will be my signature until the Titans show me something signature worthy.
But I digress, GO TITANS!
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is not that bad.i think we can do better though
by musicfootball24 on Jan 13, 2011 1:34 PM CST reply actions
I'll take him
I know everyone is scared of having another “whiner” at QB but I think everyone is over blowing it about him calling us dirty. Get over it. If he helps us win who cares?
I’d be all for Neil O’Donnell returning from his mom’s living room if that helped us win games.
That being said, anyone like Matt Flynn?
i don't see how we can lose with Orton
The power of neckbeard + stache would be unstoppable
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this is true
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by nolesbroncos3456 on Jan 14, 2011 2:45 PM CST up reply actions
it's not so much our opinions I'm worried about
it’s the other players. they probably just hate his guts. a chemistry implosion is the last thing we need.
Get 'em.
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by danielreese05 on Jan 13, 2011 9:52 PM CST up reply actions
i doubt they hate
I’m sure, if anything, they thought his whining was funny. Rather have the whiner whining for you and getting penalities than the other way around.
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