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Rebuilding the Tennessee Titans - Part I: Identifying The Problem(s)

This will be part of a three part series.  Part I will be used to identify the team's weaknesses.  Part II will outline what changes we as fans could reasonably expect that would improve this organization.  Part III will outline what I personally would like to see happen, outside of the constraints of what should be expected from the Titans and Jeff Fisher.

Where do we go from here?  Once the dust settled last week, that's the question I kept asking myself.  How does a team recover from a total meltdown like we saw in the second half of last season?  It's not easy.  A handful of teams across the league have shown that it is possible to be a consistent bottom dweller.  If this team's not careful, they could find themselves in that mix.  So, what's next?

Star-divide

The first step to recovery is identifying that you have a problem

Jeff Fisher is at a crossroads right now.  While some will argue that an NFL head coach is always under pressure, this time will feel different for Fisher.  His job security, for the first time in a long time, is in serious jeopardy.  The writing is on the wall that he needs to produce this year, or his time may be done in Tennessee.

Here's what I hope that means for our head coach:  Serious evaluation.  Instead of a stubborn, steadfast procedure that involves the status quo, he needs to objectively evaluate the personnel around him.  That means going against one of his most cherished qualities; being the nice guy.  Friends need to be fired.  Player favorites need to be cut.  The brand of football needs to be re-evaluated.

For all my criticism of Jeff Fisher, I actually believe he can and will do some of these things.  I believe this because I've seen how well he can perform when he's backed up against a wall.  Maybe I'm wrong, and maybe I'm clinging to hope.  Time will tell.

So, what specifically are these problems?  I'll bifurcate this into two separate issues; coaching staff and players.  Remember, Part I is identifying the problems, not solving them.  This part also will not involve our strengths, as those will be addressed in Part II.  As such, the remainder of this article will take a pessimistic tone.  Fear not, though, as there are proposed solutions for said problems in future posts.

Coaching Staff

Jeff Fisher

Coach needs to take a look in the mirror and really evaluate his weaknesses as a coach.  And, if I had one case study I could hand him, it would be the turn around made in Kansas City.  Jeff needs to realize that you can be innovative and aggressive, yet still be built around a good defense and strong run game.  Coach, you share in the blame for this season.  Take responsibility, and improve.

Mike Heimerdinger

This one is a bit of a hot button topic.  What do you do with a guy who's been both incredibly inspirational in his personal battle with cancer, yet failed to get his offense to perform at a high level?  A large faction of fans want Dinger fired.  There's some merit to that argument.  For a while, I actually wanted him gone as well.  However, after some further thought, I think this guy needs another shot.

Dinger's offense thrives on the deep ball.  The offense likes to keep the defense stretched vertically, and theoretically that opens up the run game.  Well, the run game didn't open up this year, but I think that was a symptom of the quarterback position.  If reports are to be believed, Vince Young didn't know the whole playbook.  Reports aside, I know that I never saw him audible at the line.  However, he did throw a great deep ball.  And, at times, that allowed this offense to really hum.  Conversely, Kerry seemed to know all the offense.  He had no problems audibling at the line.  Yet, his deep ball is absolutely horrendous.  So, in both cases Dinger's hands were tied.  You've got one QB with the physical tools that can't call the plays, and another that knows the plays but can't stretch the defense.  For these reasons, and because of the success I saw Dinger have with a big armed QB like Cutler, I think that Mike deserves another shot.

Chuck Cecil

Cecil should stay another year.  That's not popular opinion.  It's one that is more circumstantial than anything else.  With the CBA looming and Fisher's job hanging in the balance, there's little job security for an incoming defensive coordinator.  You could after a young unknown, but I don't think that's a risk for which Fisher would gamble his job.  

I'll also summarize the rest of the defensive staff, since I don't think they should be canned either.  The secondary had issues, but I can't just discount the excellent job that Robertson and Hauck have done with McCourty and Verner.  The other glaring issue was the Linebacker position.  It was poor enough that a coach with a short resume would be fired this offseason.  However, given McGinnis' relative success over the years (though you have to wonder how much Bulluck's talent covered for his coaching deficiencies), he deserves another year to prove himself.

Fred Graves

His time needs to end here in Tennessee.  And, while I'm sure it will pain Fisher to part ways with another moustache man, he has no other choice.  I'm not going to elaborate here.  Every Titan fan is aware of the developmental issues at the Wide Receiver position.

Craig Johnson

This man needs to go, or be repurposed to another assistant position.  Chris Johnson regressed this year.  The offensive line deserves blame here, but CJ developed a serious case of happy feet this year when he hit the hole.  

Mike Munchak

Offensive line play was horrid this year, but I'm more inclined to believe that it had more to do with personnel than coaching.  And, like McGinnis, Mike Munchak has had enough success developing talent in Tennessee that he deserves another shot.

Player Personnel

Quarterback

Kerry Collins should retire.  I'm very thankful for his time here in Tennessee.  Without him as a backup (and starter in 2008), things could have gotten much worse.  If he wants to come back in a backup role, that's worth considering.  We'll struggle to find a back up that would be more capable than Kerry Collins.  My fear is that Fisher has grown so close to Collins that he will continue to struggle to keep him in that back up role, and he may look to him as the starter.  For that reason, Fisher should probably look for new blood at the quarterback position, both in a starting and back up role.

Rusty Smith should be cut or only kept as the emergency back up.  I've seen enough of the kid to know that he's not capable of being a back up next year, even with a full offseason to prepare.  I don't see enough upside to warrant eating up a spot on the 45 man gameday roster, and he's probably not worth keeping on the 53 man roster at all.

Wide Receiver

Two guys need to go from this receiving core:   Justin Gage and Lavelle Hawkins.  Gage has had his flashes in the pan, but is otherwise dragging this offense down.  He's inconsistent, yet not explosive; a combination that you don't look for in a receiver.  As for Lavelle, we can't really pass any judgements on him.  He's built up to be a playmaker in the offseason, but hardly ever sees the field.  I don't know if this is issues with the playbook, coaching staff or both.  I do know that he's eating up a roster spot, and as far as I can tell, Damian Williams has usurped him in the depth chart heirarchy.

Offensive line

Move on from Leroy Harris.  At a minimum, make him a back up.  It's hard to peg all of the issues we had on him.  The transition of Amano along with the loss of Mawae obviously had a big impact as well.  Still, Harris was awful at times this year.  Amano gets blame too, but I think there may be hope for him by moving back to the guard position.

Tight End

I don't see any way that Bo Scaife remains on this roster.  His production is plenty reason to move on from the guy, but insubordination seals the deal.

Linebacker

Think this team missed Keith Bulluck?  The linebacker play, especially in pass defense, was absolutely horrid.  Stephen Tulloch is complicit in this mess, but his play was good enough that he should keep his job.  Also, blowing up the entire linebacking corps would be difficult, if the intent was an instant upgrade in 2011.  I'd also keep Spoon, though probably not in a starting role.  Same goes for McGrath.  I dont' think the team needs to cut the guy outright, but he also should be relieved of starting duties.

Safety

Chris Hope has been a great contributer for franchise, but, like all players, he's lost a step in his old age.  It's unfortunate that there was such a drop off in his play this year, as it's clear that he's one of the only remaining veteran leaders on this roster.  Another consideration is that he's due to make $6.5 million heading into the final year of his contract in 2011, which is entirely too much to be paying a player that's performing at his level.

*There are other players that should not return next year (Donnie Nickey) that I haven't addressed.  These players are mainly special teams and back up players.  Getting that deep into the roster is really beyond the scope and intent of this post.

I found this exercise to be productive.  Like many of you, I've had knee jerk reactions throughout this season.  My expectation was that identifying our weaknesses would be a depressing task resulting in the recommendation to blow up nearly the entire roster.  Instead, I've found that this is largely a talented team, with a few glaring weaknesses that were exposed in the second half of the season.  The next article will explore the personnel possibilities this offseason among both coaches and players that could help to improve those weaknesses.

 

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Fred Graves...

replaced by Randy Moss? ;)

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by rothbard on Jan 11, 2011 2:12 PM CST reply actions  

DO IT!

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by Ice0ne (CAJ) on Jan 11, 2011 2:12 PM CST up reply actions  

How many year did KB53 sign for last year?

If it was a one year deal, should/could we bring him back

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by MexicanTitanFreak on Jan 11, 2011 2:22 PM CST reply actions  

money cures all....maybe

"The best years the Titans franchise has ever seen were the years when Steve was our quarterback."

by MexicanTitanFreak on Jan 11, 2011 2:29 PM CST up reply actions  

Doesn't matter really

I love KB just as much as the next Titans fan, but you gotta face reality. KB was pretty much a non-factor in NY and he was hurt a lot. I miss his fire and his leadership and his style of play, but he doesn’t do the team a lot of good if he is injured all the time, ya know?

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by KnightOfNi222 on Jan 11, 2011 8:08 PM CST up reply actions  

Hurt? When was he hurt alot?

And in NY i think He plays mainly in Nickel

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by Ice0ne (CAJ) on Jan 12, 2011 12:22 AM CST up reply actions  

2010 Season Stats

31 total tackles, 2 interceptions, 2 passes defensed (missed 3 games due to injury)

The games where KB saw the most action were against the Jags and Titans where he notched 5 and 6 tackles respectively. His 2 picks came against the Vikings and the Skins.

His limited use led him to say he won’t accept a limited role in NY next year according to the NY Star Ledger, but with being up for 3 games and coming off that ACL injury I completely understand not wanting to use him more. As piss poor as our LBs were this year, you can’t tell me that KB in his current health would have been a better solution than any of our starters. Leadership wise yes, but not play wise.

I wish it were different because KB has been my favorite defender ever since his first pick 6 vs Dallas, but at 34 he isn’t that guy anymore. Maybe he can coach our LBs and McGinnist becomes D-Coordinator?

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by KnightOfNi222 on Jan 12, 2011 9:32 AM CST up reply actions  

Agree completely.

And you made the only argument for keeping Cecil that could save his job. Although you could make the case that if you get a young DC that you think might be on your short list for eventual HC that might be attractive to a young coordinator to come here – either for Cecil or Dinger. Not much incentive for Fisher to hire a guy so that he could soon become the Titans HC.

On the other hadn, I think both Dinger and Cecil were impacted by key injuries and FA lossesthis season. Britt’s injury coupled with Mawae’s leaving on offense plus the QB issues we had on offense, and injuries on the DL and Bullock’s leaving on defense. Coaching is important but I think players matter more.

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by CalTitan on Jan 11, 2011 2:25 PM CST reply actions  

the only thing i have with Dinger

is running cj up the middle, the small amount of trick plays that could have been used such as our 1 wildcat play, the minor times we used Play Action, and some of our Vanilla play calls.
We shoulda kept Vince because he fit Dinger’s Playbook better than KC and RS and of course CS do.

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by Ice0ne (CAJ) on Jan 11, 2011 2:30 PM CST reply actions  

Given VY's stuggles with reads and the playbook

I’ll guarantee you they tried to limit the playaction calls because they didn’t want him to have to turn his back on the defense, then have to whip around and make another read.

Other than that, I agree that the running game needs more variety and there’s an untapped potential for trickeration.

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by August West on Jan 11, 2011 2:43 PM CST up reply actions  

Well, i agree about the PA

Like the PA Rollout or PA counter, but just a Pa Dive, Stretch, or Toss.

Also a counter Toss, End around toss, and etc with their varieitys (Pa, run, regular throw with distractions).
The Wrap around counter is a bad play that some how worked, twice.

And how about Lining CJ in slot or regular WR and having Ringer in the Back field.

Playing Madden and seeing all the stuff you can do there, our OC and DC could do alot of things.
I know there is a diffrence, but an off season to work on things may really be what we need.

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by Ice0ne (CAJ) on Jan 11, 2011 3:00 PM CST up reply actions  

I still remember the Houston game in 2009 when CJ split wide.

He was uncovered and the entire stadium was just hoping Kerry would snap the ball before Texans’ D realized it. Fortunately he did, unfortunately we still lost the game.

With a unique talent like CJ, there is a lot of room for creativity in the running game and offense. I do agree with August though, the limitations of a former QB may have done a lot of damage to Dinger being able to do some of that stuff.

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We've had five-game losing streaks for twelve years now...and in no way is that depressing.

by ronburgundy7427 on Jan 11, 2011 4:46 PM CST up reply actions  

while that was a cool

the result of the play was because of complete failure on Houston’s part to even line someone up on that side of the field, not our “creativity”.

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by rothbard on Jan 11, 2011 5:17 PM CST up reply actions  

Agree

…except for the part about VY fitting Dinger’s playbook better. Coach’s need to coach to the player’s strengths in my opinion.

I’ll also add that I had a major problem that he could not develop a WR screen for Moss…anything just to get the ball in his hands, get him involved.

by Ed R on Jan 11, 2011 2:50 PM CST up reply actions  

we actually did throw a screen to moss, but it was one of those here ya go

screens that better fits Britt because there was no blocking.

I ask You guys about a WR.
Would You want a speed burner like D Jackson, M Wallace, D Henderson, and Early Moss.

Or a Big Possesion Wr like Britt, Bowe, Boldin, Colston, Fitzgerald, A. Johnson?

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by Ice0ne (CAJ) on Jan 11, 2011 2:54 PM CST up reply actions  

I'd always take speed over size

Cant coach speed…can always try to get guys bigger, but speed is such an ‘x’ factor. And I mean football speed, not Chris Henry, combine speed…

What would you take??

by Ed R on Jan 11, 2011 3:13 PM CST up reply actions  

i think more like

hands > speed > bulk

No point in running fast if you’re going to drop the ball anyways.

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by rothbard on Jan 11, 2011 3:19 PM CST up reply actions  

Well obviously...

Being able to catch is the upmost important trait for a WR…but all things considered, give me speed over size…

by Ed R on Jan 11, 2011 3:22 PM CST up reply actions  

You can't make guys taller

These big guys are more tall than bulky, right?

by TNTitan89 on Jan 12, 2011 1:32 AM CST up reply actions  

Taller by an inch

due to added muscle mass

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by Ice0ne (CAJ) on Jan 12, 2011 10:28 AM CST up reply actions  

The names in your " big posession reciever list"...

are exceedingly better than the speed list….just my opinion, I could be wrong. I’m not.

by slo-verado on Jan 11, 2011 5:41 PM CST up reply actions  

You nailed it on Cecil

the biggest thing keeping him here is that no established DC is signing on with a coach who’s hanging by a thread going into the last year of his contract. It’s possible someone could be convinced to come, but it certainly limits the pool.

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by August West on Jan 11, 2011 2:45 PM CST reply actions  

Would an established DC not look at it as a potential opportunity to become interim/permanent head coach?

I understand the desire for stability, but surely some young up-and-coming HC candidate could see this as an opportunity to fix up a defense and prove their worth, and at the same time if Fisher doesn’t get it done, become a candidate for the head job?

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We've had five-game losing streaks for twelve years now...and in no way is that depressing.

by ronburgundy7427 on Jan 11, 2011 4:48 PM CST up reply actions  

That was why I had suggested Rivera in one of the posts recently..

Coming in as DC and head coach in waiting… not going to happen now though.

by Los Blancos Chicca on Jan 12, 2011 8:24 AM CST up reply actions  

Just imagine

the newly unemployed Dave Wanndstedt as the DC next year. Between he and Fisher, we’d win 10 games just on the Mustache Power factor:

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by August West on Jan 11, 2011 2:53 PM CST reply actions   3 recs

I am very, very impressed with your evaluation of the coaching staff.

On Fisher and Dinger’s offense, I wonder how much of a change we’ll see now that Vince is gone. I’m sure it will still be somewhat conservative, but it wouldn’t surprise me if the playcalling opened up if we can pick up some sort of serviceable QB. We saw the offense open up late in the year as they were forced to play more aggressively, and a part of me believes that that will continue in the upcoming season.

I’m really stuck on Chuck Cecil. I would have fired him, but then again I can also recall a time when I severely doubted Jim Schwartz’s defenses too. It took Schwartz four years if I recall to build an elite defense. This will be Cecil’s third year and likely last chance to build this defense. I think it speaks volumes that Fisher is keeping him around knowing that this year is make or break.

I really don’t know why Fred Graves is still employed on this team.

Someone needs to tell Bud that Voldemort was the villain.

by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Jan 11, 2011 2:57 PM CST reply actions  

i think we'll be alot more conservative

well, depends on what QB we have to Start.

I just want more originality.

Wildcat, Strange unconservative defensive packages.
Things like a down Lineman set every few plays on 3rd and longs, using our Speed DEs as Rovers (Ford and Morgan…Maybe some young guys Like Marcus Howard who is Mathis’ Size) to blitz the edge like what NY does with JPP.

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by Ice0ne (CAJ) on Jan 11, 2011 3:07 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm not sure why we would possibly be more conservative.

With a capable QB, of which VY and Collins are not, this offense can be opened up. Like SuperHorn said, we need a QB that can throw a good deep ball and have full understanding of the playbook. We haven’t had that in a few years.

As for your Wildcat proposal, I vehemently disagree with it. Miami’s offense is a lot of smoke and mirrors. At some point, you’ve got to be able to run and pass the ball in the traditional manner. Heck watching Oregon last night I couldn’t help but get the feeling that I was watching a house of cards come crashing down. Teams need a real offense. I want an opened up offense, (4 WR sets would be nice every once in a while) but I do not want a gimmick offense.

Someone needs to tell Bud that Voldemort was the villain.

by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Jan 11, 2011 3:14 PM CST up reply actions  

I'd say we'd be conservative bc thats who Fisher is...

I dont ever see Fisher opening up this offense. His mentality is control the line of scrimmage, run the ball, stop the run and win every game 3-0 if you can. He loves the FG more than any other coach in the league. Problem, is that you have to have a dominant defense to play that way and there hasnt been one of those here in a while. But IMO as long as Fisher is here, we will never see this offense open up…

by Ed R on Jan 11, 2011 3:18 PM CST up reply actions  

Then why did we throw all those long balls?

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by rothbard on Jan 11, 2011 3:20 PM CST up reply actions  

Is that sarcasm?

Because with 8 and even 9 in the box the majority of the time, I’m throwing until they back off…period. You gotta make teams fear the deep pass and no one feared it against the Titans this season..

by Ed R on Jan 11, 2011 3:41 PM CST up reply actions  

It would be interesting to research the McNair led offenses and the Vince led offenses.

I was young at the time so my memory is quite vague but you don’t win a co-MVP by playing conservative. The offense must have been more aggressive at that time. With a QB we can trust, it could look more like that offense and not the one we’ve seen in the VY era.

Someone needs to tell Bud that Voldemort was the villain.

by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Jan 11, 2011 3:23 PM CST up reply actions  

Just a quick glance

I just remember those teams being so dominant on defense, it didnt really matter what our offense did until it was the 4th quarter. Just a quick peak at McNair’s 03 stats show he had 24 TDs to 7 INTs and 12 fumbles, 6 lost…He was 15th in yards at 3215. He was T-7th with 24 TDs and his QB rating (which has been talked about as worthless on this site) was 100.4, 1st in the league. And his 400 attempts is barely top 20. All of this in 14 games mind you…

I dont think the offense was more aggressive, I think the same run first principles were the same. Difference was that Eddie fit that mold perfectly and Frank Wychek was HUGE for McNair… Just better personel to run Fisher’s conservative gameplan..

by Ed R on Jan 11, 2011 3:34 PM CST up reply actions  

Perhaps those are better choices of words.

It is quite possible then that the offense was so “vanilla” because the QB still hadn’t mastered the playbook. With a new QB, its possible we will see a much different offense than the one we’ve seen in recent years with Kerry and Vince.

Someone needs to tell Bud that Voldemort was the villain.

by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Jan 11, 2011 3:56 PM CST up reply actions  

I think there are good, veteran options in the FA market, as well as some backups with upside.

Veteran starting candidates:
Bulger
Hasselbeck
Seneca Wallace
Chad Pennington (health is a big concern, though)

Young with upside:
Bruce Gradkowski
Troy Smith
Dennis Dixon

by SuperHorn on Jan 11, 2011 4:09 PM CST up reply actions  

That list makes me want to vomit

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by Jimmy on Jan 11, 2011 4:10 PM CST up reply actions  

What makes him a good fit?

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by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Jan 11, 2011 4:14 PM CST up reply actions  

My main concern would be

He really didn’t separate himself from Jake Delhomme and Colt McCoy in Cleveland.

Someone needs to tell Bud that Voldemort was the villain.

by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Jan 11, 2011 4:19 PM CST up reply actions  

Jake Delhomme was brought in as Mangini's guy.

As for McCoy, he was buried in the depth chart because Mangini was forced to draft him by Holmgren. McCoy was actually behind Wallace, and came in due to injury to Cleveland’s starter and backup. When McCoy started winning, the coach could no longer go back to either player.

I mean, no one’s gonna get people really excited. Really only Kevin Kolb is the big name out there that would get people fired up, but he’s:
a) not fit for our system and;
b) going to cost valuable draft picks

by SuperHorn on Jan 11, 2011 4:23 PM CST up reply actions  

It's a stop gap.

Seneca Wallace allows this team to try to construct itself like the 2008 Titans. That doesn’t make it easy, but a turnover free QB is critical for that sort of team. Get a guy like him in here, and you can work off of the blueprint from 2008.

The good news is that there’s some really solid FA options at the linebacker and safety position.

by SuperHorn on Jan 11, 2011 4:33 PM CST up reply actions  

Really?

I’d LOVE to see Troy Smith or Dennis Dixon in a Titans uniform next year. It would allow us to target QB later in the draft. Plus I’ve always really liked Smith. People forget he was good enough to beat out then-rookie Joe Flacco but got hurt. After that Flacco took the job and never let go.

I wouldn’t mind Hasselbeck, but it would depend on our offensive line moves. Any of those veterans you just listed would get killed after three games.

Someone needs to tell Bud that Voldemort was the villain.

by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Jan 11, 2011 4:12 PM CST up reply actions  

What have Smith or Dixon ever done

to get you excited?

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by Jimmy on Jan 11, 2011 4:14 PM CST up reply actions  

Both were absolute studs in college.

I know that doesn’t mean they are qualified to be NFL quarterbacks, but neither have gotten much of a shot. When he did, Smith looked excellent at times this year.

by SuperHorn on Jan 11, 2011 4:15 PM CST up reply actions  

Where have I heard that before?

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by Jimmy on Jan 11, 2011 4:17 PM CST up reply actions  

Troy Smith:

Looked good enough that John Harbaugh and Cam Cameron were going to trust him to start for the Ravens. Showed flashes of great play in San Fran (though he did have plenty of poor throws as well). Certainly worth a look in my mind.

Dennis Dixon:
Like Smith, a mobile QB. Played well against a tough Ravens’ D last year and performed admirably in the few starts early this year.

Someone needs to tell Bud that Voldemort was the villain.

by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Jan 11, 2011 4:17 PM CST up reply actions  

Dixon's stock was a lot higher

until he shredded both of his knees in college.

Get 'em.
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by danielreese05 on Jan 11, 2011 4:42 PM CST up reply actions  

Ugh...

Didnt we just get rid of a stud college QB with questionable throwing mechanics? And while Smith may have been in line in Baltimore, he couldnt hold the job in San Fran, and I’d be more willing to look at recent events rather than what people thought about him 3 years ago…

by Ed R on Jan 11, 2011 4:21 PM CST up reply actions  

spot on

how do these options make us any better the nameless was better than these guys and he didnt work why would these two?

by Kashus808 on Jan 11, 2011 4:23 PM CST up reply actions  

Vince Young's issues were all between the ears.

Just because Smith and Dixon are similar in style to Young does not mean all mobile QBs share his character flaws.

Someone needs to tell Bud that Voldemort was the villain.

by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Jan 11, 2011 4:25 PM CST up reply actions  

Exactly.

Because of all the crap we’ve had to deal with lately, people forget the “highlight moments” with Vince. The mobile Qb skill set can work at the pro level. Vince’s problem was, like WTF said, was “between his ears.”

by SuperHorn on Jan 11, 2011 4:27 PM CST up reply actions  

i agree

there were many highlight moments the problem is if were going to put any QB in and ask him to just drop back and run the vanilla plays it wont work im sure we will spend half the year trying to make one of them a “Pocket Passer” instead of highlighting their abilities.

by Kashus808 on Jan 11, 2011 4:30 PM CST up reply actions  

Actually, Vince Young was developing as a "pocket passer" too and the results were pretty good.

We also don’t know if the vanilla play calling was because we had a QB that didn’t know all the playbook.

Someone needs to tell Bud that Voldemort was the villain.

by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Jan 11, 2011 4:33 PM CST up reply actions  

And we probably never will

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by NJD28 on Jan 11, 2011 10:20 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

"between the ears"

can and does translate directly to the field in limited playbook comprehension, stifled playcalling, lack of on the line adjustments, etc.

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by rothbard on Jan 11, 2011 5:20 PM CST up reply actions  

I think San Fran's situation was beyond repair.

Between the offensive coordinator getting fired midway through the season and Singletary changing QBs almost every game, it was hard for any QB to “shine” in that situation. Smith at least had some bright moments. Enough bright moments that I don’t see the harm of bringing him into camp. I’m not proclaiming he’ll be a star, but perhaps he will do enough to hold down the fort while a 2nd or 3rd round QB prepares.

Someone needs to tell Bud that Voldemort was the villain.

by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Jan 11, 2011 4:24 PM CST up reply actions  

Almost as bad of a situation as having a HC that doesnt trust you??

Sorry, couldnt resist…

And I guess I’m thinking along the lines of Troy Smith could have been had for about 3 years now right? And yet he has been buried on the depth chart in San Fran? If Baltimore was so high on him, why didnt they keep him as a backup?

Certainly dont disagree with you, but I dont see why you would bring him in along with a 2nd or 3rd rounder… If you are drafting a QB, you need a veteran, someone who has been through the wars who can teach, like Collins has, like Neil O’Donnel was all those years…

What about a Jon Kitna, he was servicable in Dallas when Romo went down…even looked better in my opinion because he took care of the ball better…

by Ed R on Jan 11, 2011 4:32 PM CST up reply actions  

On Jon Kitna...

I think we already have “our Jon Kitna” in Kerry Collins. I agree that a veteran should be kept on our roster but allow me to speculate for a moment. We nab Dixon/Smith/Wallace in FA. Collins, barring retirement, will be back. And we could grab Pat Devlin in the second, or Andy Dalton (a personal favourite of mine) in the third. A Smith-Dalton-Collins depth chart, for example, is an upgrade over Collins-Rusty Smith.

Someone needs to tell Bud that Voldemort was the villain.

by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Jan 11, 2011 4:36 PM CST up reply actions  

Agreed

And I am a huge Andy Dalton fan as well. Living in Ft Worth and attending all of TCU’s home games this year, I am a bit biased, but I love your thought of nabbing him in the 3rd…

by Ed R on Jan 11, 2011 4:38 PM CST up reply actions  

Would you take him at 40?

I wouldn’t, as of right now, but he’s a guy that I think scouts will start to like a lot more as the draft approaches— so much more that he may very well be gone at 72.

Someone needs to tell Bud that Voldemort was the villain.

by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Jan 11, 2011 4:42 PM CST up reply actions  

If there's a run on QB's, a possibility he's gone in the third round, and I've identified him as "my guy", then absolutely.

If you truly think a QB can be special, you reach for him in the draft without hesitation. The position is too important to miss on someone like that.

by SuperHorn on Jan 11, 2011 4:44 PM CST up reply actions  

To clarify, this only applies if you're really sold on a player.

It doesn’t make it a good idea to, for example, take Blaine Gabbert at 8 because it’s a positional need, when he’s clearly rated lower on your board than 8, and you’re not entirely sold on the guy…

by SuperHorn on Jan 11, 2011 4:46 PM CST up reply actions  

Agree.

Because this QB crop is so weak, I’m beginning to like the idea of going QB in later rounds rather than at 8.

Someone needs to tell Bud that Voldemort was the villain.

by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Jan 11, 2011 5:24 PM CST up reply actions  

I agree with this...

But we do need to get a FA QB with more experience than a young guy who has been back up for a while.

by Los Blancos Chicca on Jan 12, 2011 8:40 AM CST up reply actions  

Woah!

You want 2/3 quarterbacks on the roster to have red hair?! Is that even legal?

Air Bud > Kerry Collins

by Przybyla on Jan 11, 2011 9:31 PM CST up reply actions  

Smith throws a great ball, and has solid mechanics.

If he were 4 inches taller, I’m 100% convinced he would have been a top 10 pick and a starter right now.

by SuperHorn on Jan 11, 2011 4:26 PM CST up reply actions  

And if height is his only negative

That’s pretty darn good.

Someone needs to tell Bud that Voldemort was the villain.

by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Jan 11, 2011 4:27 PM CST up reply actions  

And if height were his only negative

He wouldnt be a career backup…he would have a starting job. Its more than height…

by Ed R on Jan 11, 2011 4:36 PM CST up reply actions  

Or ask Drew Brees, all 6 foot of him

It certainly will happen again…but the real players do what Flacco and countless other QBs did, get an opportunity and never let go of it, Brady and Romo also immediately come to mind. He’s had an opportunity twice, yet is still available.. I say danger, but thats strictly my uneducated opinion…

by Ed R on Jan 11, 2011 4:46 PM CST up reply actions  

it's funny you bring up Flacco

who was slated to be Smith’s backup in his first year until Smith got pneumonia in the preseason.

Get 'em.
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by danielreese05 on Jan 11, 2011 4:49 PM CST up reply actions  

Right

But Flacco never relinquished that starting spot once he got a chance…and thats my point. Those are the real players. Smith has had a chance to start twice, but lost it both times, be it to illness, injury, whatever. The real guys (and good luck finding them) dont ever give it up once they are afforded the chance…

by Ed R on Jan 11, 2011 4:51 PM CST up reply actions  

it's really because he couldn't right?

Smith was down and the other option was Cleo Lemon I think. so yes, to validate your point, Joe Flacco is most definitely better than Cleo Lemon. come to think of it, it may have been John Beck…either way, Smith got hustled out of there real fast. I don’t think it’s his fault that he “surrendered” the position. he had a viral infection that took 30 pounds off his body. not much he could do about that really.

Get 'em.
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by danielreese05 on Jan 11, 2011 4:54 PM CST up reply actions  

True enough...

Man, I didnt realize he was that ill that it took 30 lbs off his frame..wow.

Dont disagree that the Ravens didnt have any other options, but if you do see the potential, wouldnt you keep Troy as a backup or keep him stashed away so no one else can have him? Had to be something more to it than illness and height… But maybe not..

by Ed R on Jan 11, 2011 4:58 PM CST up reply actions  

same reason we cut Blount

N/A and or to keep a useless veteran on special teams.
I see what you’re saying though

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by danielreese05 on Jan 11, 2011 5:04 PM CST up reply actions  

Good point on Blount

Very good comparison case… Take a chance, but if its not a need, why hold up the roster spot…

by Ed R on Jan 11, 2011 5:07 PM CST up reply actions  

5'11

Drew is 5’11

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by NJD28 on Jan 11, 2011 11:09 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Is it though?

In some situations players just get unlucky. I really thought he was going to play well in Baltimore, but then he got hurt and lost the job for good. And in San Fran, he did start a few games. So in two separate situations, he was good enough to start.

I"m not denying that there may be other issues with Smith, but from the film I’ve seen, I’d take a look. One thing I would love to know more about is the shouting match between he and Singletary on the sideline. I’d be more worried about that than his height.

Someone needs to tell Bud that Voldemort was the villain.

by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Jan 11, 2011 4:40 PM CST up reply actions  

True, good enough to start

in 2 seperate occasions, but not good enough to keep the starting position in either case…

by Ed R on Jan 11, 2011 4:48 PM CST up reply actions  

As you and daniereese discussed above

I’m not sure you can fault him for losing Balt’s starting QB spot when he had pneumonia and lost 30 pounds.

Someone needs to tell Bud that Voldemort was the villain.

by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Jan 11, 2011 5:26 PM CST up reply actions  

height made Drew Brees a second round pick

that’s not always the case.

Get 'em.
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by danielreese05 on Jan 11, 2011 4:46 PM CST up reply actions  

and it goes both ways too

IIRC, lots of talk about Jamarcus Russel’s upside came from his “NFL ready frame”. that went well.

Get 'em.
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by danielreese05 on Jan 11, 2011 4:48 PM CST up reply actions  

Im with Jimmy

That list makes my belly ache if theses are our options 4 wins will be an amazing accomplishment, i cant believe we volunteerly put ourselves in this situation, i see CJ holding out if these r the options.

by Kashus808 on Jan 11, 2011 4:18 PM CST up reply actions  

Boy no kidding

I definately just threw up in my mouth a little bit…

by Ed R on Jan 11, 2011 4:18 PM CST up reply actions  

Jamarcus!

Patrick Peterson= Next Deion Sanders. Julio Jones sucks.

by trevor2013 on Jan 11, 2011 4:43 PM CST up reply actions  

chad pennington

aka glass bb gun

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by rothbard on Jan 11, 2011 5:18 PM CST up reply actions  

Orton = better choice than any on that list

Hasselbeck not bad either

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by rothbard on Jan 11, 2011 5:22 PM CST up reply actions  

yea Orton

perhaps available and underrated….though I think he lacks the deep ball too

by PocketfullofPoseys on Jan 11, 2011 8:54 PM CST up reply actions  

Dinger needs to go, Vince is gone u cant blame him for everytrhing anymore, maybe if u put plays in the playbook that look like they will actually work or use players strentghs in the play calling u would have someone want to know the plays, instead of trying to have KC run the wraparound draw play that Vince ran with no error and have KC fumble the ball trying to make a handoff(pathetic) there is no reason why u have an athletic QB but only have him drop back never move the pocket no misderection no playaction, i dont care what excuse u make there is no excuse for not running play action with VY and CJ NONE, he was making good enuff reads that his passer rating was tops in the league. we need a OC with Balls.

by Kashus808 on Jan 11, 2011 3:08 PM CST reply actions  

Who is this VY guy?

Does he play for the Titans?

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by rothbard on Jan 11, 2011 3:12 PM CST up reply actions  

Things changed after the injury.

Dramatics aside, the bottom line was that we lost our starting quarterback for half the season. However, when Vince was healthy, this was one of the better offenses in the NFL. I think it’s a bit nitpicky to point a finger at Dinger for the first half of the season. Production was just fine on the offensive side of the ball, with the exception of the Pittsburgh game.

by SuperHorn on Jan 11, 2011 3:15 PM CST up reply actions  

if we get anymore conservative we might as well hand the opposing team our playbook before we play them, as it is if you watch any film on us whatever u see on film is probably what u will get too.

by Kashus808 on Jan 11, 2011 3:11 PM CST reply actions  

If Singletary were to be available for DC

would you take him on?

I think I would excited to see him here. Sometimes these head coaches need a change of scenary before excelling. When Bill Bellichick was with Cleveland, he was a terrible coach. He really was. I live in NE Ohio, so I know.

Adams needs to start thinking about a succession plan and hedging his bets with Fisher.

Look at what they did in Chicago. Lovie Smith was under fire last year, so they brought in Martz and the former Jax coach (name escapes me), each of whom have head coaching experience. Had Chicago failed to make the playoffs, one of them could have stepped up to be the new head coach.

by foobarred on Jan 11, 2011 3:33 PM CST reply actions  

Belichick had more playoff wins (1, coincidentally against the Patriots) in his 5 years than Fisher has had in the past five years.

Sorry, I couldn’t resist the jab at Fisher.

I agree that sometimes coaches need a change of scenery. I’m not high on Singletary, though. He seems to be more of a professional motivator than an x’s and o’s guy. I’d prefer our next coach to be young, analytical, and aggressive. Schwartz, and Payton come to mind as the type of mold I’d like to see at the HC position.

by SuperHorn on Jan 11, 2011 3:45 PM CST up reply actions  

If not Singletary...

then perhaps somebody else— preferably a former HC. I do believe that succession planning is important. It’ll be a lot easier to give somebody a look and promote them then to blow everything up and hope for the best.

On the other hand, I think a professional motivator isn’t necessarily a bad thing. I don’t like the idea of an administration full of eggheads. I think a mix of personalities in a stale organization would shake things up for the better.

by foobarred on Jan 11, 2011 3:56 PM CST up reply actions  

I live in the Bay Area.

People here loved Singletary at first but they tired of him. He’s big on trying to motivate guys but not much of an Xs and Os guy. I have my doubts about Singletary at DC.

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by CalTitan on Jan 11, 2011 9:02 PM CST up reply actions  

I kind of think

you just described Cecil. I think they’ll keep Cecil this year as it’s looking now, but if they jump I’d rather see a brainiac than a motivator.

by numbertenox on Jan 11, 2011 9:23 PM CST up reply actions  

motivator is what HC is for

the brains should be at the coordinator positions

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by rothbard on Jan 11, 2011 10:14 PM CST up reply actions  

I agree with stocking your staff with former HCs

Worked well with Chicago this year and look at KC too…While Weiss has no NFL head coaching experience, Romeo Crennel does. Could also tie that to the Belichick tree…whatever works…

by Ed R on Jan 11, 2011 3:50 PM CST up reply actions  

The most condemning thing I've heard about Singletary was

that players were afraid of him. Jeff Fisher is a players’ coach- almost all like and respect him. I don’t see why he would bring in a DC that scares the players.

Someone needs to tell Bud that Voldemort was the villain.

by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Jan 11, 2011 3:58 PM CST up reply actions  

Good.

I’m betting that Singletary can dial it back a notch. I’m assuming he’s a smart man to make it this far and he’ll learn from his mistakes. I still believe that keeping the same coaching staff will amount to keeping the same complacency level.

Fisher says that competition in a team is a good thing. I think that also extends to the coaching staff.

by foobarred on Jan 11, 2011 4:01 PM CST up reply actions  

I've always hated that saying...

because all opinions have some degree of assumption in them. Otherwise, they would be called facts.

That being said, I’m also assuming that the interview process would give some insight to whether or not Singletary has learned from his experiences, and that we would make the appropriate judgment call on his suitability.

by foobarred on Jan 11, 2011 4:57 PM CST up reply actions  

I saw that too...is it different from Washburn being "scary" in a sense?

Maybe they’re just more laid-back in SF, or maybe Nolan just let whatever happen and Singletary was a jarring change from that.

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by ronburgundy7427 on Jan 11, 2011 4:50 PM CST up reply actions  

I think Washburn is a guy who's going to yell, kick and scream to light a fire behind someone

And if Singletary is like that, that’s good. But I’m not sure that Washburn is a guy that players are ‘scared’ of. There’s a difference between yelling a lot and making your players scared you’re going to a) rip them in front of the team or b) publicily humiliate them,.

Someone needs to tell Bud that Voldemort was the villain.

by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Jan 11, 2011 5:29 PM CST up reply actions  

For me, the one thing that needed to be done to rebuild this team this offseason

Didn’t happen. Fisher is still here and he’s still calling the shots.

So, I’ll be rooting this next year but with my eye on 2012 when (hopefully) we will get a new head coach (I was hoping for Ron Rivera but oh well).

by shawneriksmith on Jan 11, 2011 3:57 PM CST reply actions  

Don't count on it

Unless crazy Uncle Bud can get somebody cheaper than Fisher.

by titansfan4ever on Jan 11, 2011 4:22 PM CST up reply actions  

most people are going to be cheaper than the Fish

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by rothbard on Jan 11, 2011 5:24 PM CST up reply actions  

Good analysis

Disagree with your opinion on Cecil. I don’t like his gameplaning or the implication that he does not or can’t make adjustments to the plan. I heard way to many times that the defense saw something they didn’t expect, or failed to achieve despite being able to call the plays back to the offense. I don’t think you can find a single positive statistical category that shows this defense improved at all from year one to year two. Still I think the most damning thing about Cecil is that this defense failed at the same things week after week after week. They could never cover a TE, could never cover screen pass, failed miserably on third down. Any coach worth his paycheck would eventually come up with some way to compensate for his team’s deficiencies, but not Cecil.

One last thing Rosenhaus contract demands will have Tulloch packing his moving man. I think the key to resurrecting McGrath’s career might be a move inside to 2 down backer. He has the size.

by asbestos_man on Jan 11, 2011 4:01 PM CST reply actions  

I don't neccessarily disagree but I do want to point out one thing

You mentioned that the defense was able to predict the plays of the offense (I think this was reported in two games this year). If that is true, I think the responsibility is on the players. I’m not really sure there is an excuse for knowing the plays but failing to stop that play. Sure Cecil needs to improve, but he also can’t make the tackle or knock down the ball. Preparing the players for what they could see in a game is a large part of his job.

Someone needs to tell Bud that Voldemort was the villain.

by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Jan 11, 2011 4:08 PM CST up reply actions  

Yes

And while he may be doing that very well, obviously his plans to attack and stop these plays are not very good, or his use of players is not very good. Yes the players could do more, but it’s the coach’s job to put his players in the best position to succeed and I don’t think that happens with Cecil.

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by asbestos_man on Jan 13, 2011 2:24 PM CST up reply actions  

Good post.

I wrote a similar one in the Fanposts a week or two ago about just players.

Just a few comments:

Dinger—Spot on analysis. I could not agree more. I tend to think he’s a very good Offensive coordinator who had his hands tied all year. Look at the games where Britt bailed Kerry out on the deep balls—we were stellar offensively.

Chuck Cecil—He either has to improve his in game adjustments or go. He did a mediocre job this year. I hope he can figure it out and turn it around.

O-line: Amano was a bigger problem than Harris, to me, but that’s like picking between the two ugliest girls at the dance. Matthews played MUCH better at C. Maybe play Amano at guard again, and then hopefully jake scott can rebound.

Rusty Smith: I personally don’t think we’ve seen enough from him to call his career dead. He did look very, very bad, though.

Otherwise, I agree, and feel free to check out my fanpost for my detailed opinions.

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by TennesseeTyrants on Jan 11, 2011 4:02 PM CST reply actions  

Yeah, he was serviceable.

But I don’t understand it. Moving to C shouldn’t make you suddently too weak to NOT get knocked into the backfield on every play. He just seemed physically incapable of playing in the NFL this year.

"Do the Titans have a miracle left in them in what has been a magical season to this point? If they do, they need it now. Christie kicks it high and short. Gonna be fielded by Lorenzo Neal at the 25; he dishes it back to Wycheck; he throws it across the field to Dyson. 30, 40, 50, 40, 30, 20, 10, 5, endzone...touchdown, Titans! There are no flags on the field! It's a miracle! Tennessee has pulled a miracle! A miracle for the Titans!"

by TennesseeTyrants on Jan 11, 2011 4:28 PM CST up reply actions  

No doubt.

It’s mentally the most challenging position on the field aside from QB, probably. It’s also very hard to snap and fire off if you’re a new Center—but that shouldn’t be an issue at the Pro level, anymore.

Either way, after the snap, he got absolutely manhandled all year.

"Do the Titans have a miracle left in them in what has been a magical season to this point? If they do, they need it now. Christie kicks it high and short. Gonna be fielded by Lorenzo Neal at the 25; he dishes it back to Wycheck; he throws it across the field to Dyson. 30, 40, 50, 40, 30, 20, 10, 5, endzone...touchdown, Titans! There are no flags on the field! It's a miracle! Tennessee has pulled a miracle! A miracle for the Titans!"

by TennesseeTyrants on Jan 11, 2011 5:55 PM CST up reply actions  

My point being...

…his biggest problems didn’t seem to come from the change in position. Those would be missed assignments, being out of position, things like that. He did haev some of those problems, but the big, huge, glaring problem that Amano had all year is that he often looked flat out too weak to play in the NFL. He looked like a high school freshman getting pushed about by the seniors on the first day of camp on some plays.

"Do the Titans have a miracle left in them in what has been a magical season to this point? If they do, they need it now. Christie kicks it high and short. Gonna be fielded by Lorenzo Neal at the 25; he dishes it back to Wycheck; he throws it across the field to Dyson. 30, 40, 50, 40, 30, 20, 10, 5, endzone...touchdown, Titans! There are no flags on the field! It's a miracle! Tennessee has pulled a miracle! A miracle for the Titans!"

by TennesseeTyrants on Jan 11, 2011 5:58 PM CST up reply actions  

so true

never a good start to a play when 1 sec after the snap the center is being pushed 2yd backwards

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by rothbard on Jan 11, 2011 6:27 PM CST up reply actions  

I am all aboard the "Fernando Velasco should start at C train."

I think he’s the forgotten man when we talk about Harris and Amano. We could start him at center and then have either Amano or Harris at guard, leaving one as a backup.

Someone needs to tell Bud that Voldemort was the villain.

by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Jan 11, 2011 4:09 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

Matthews played better when given the shot, to me.

Put one of them at Guard, one at Center—there’s another option.

"Do the Titans have a miracle left in them in what has been a magical season to this point? If they do, they need it now. Christie kicks it high and short. Gonna be fielded by Lorenzo Neal at the 25; he dishes it back to Wycheck; he throws it across the field to Dyson. 30, 40, 50, 40, 30, 20, 10, 5, endzone...touchdown, Titans! There are no flags on the field! It's a miracle! Tennessee has pulled a miracle! A miracle for the Titans!"

by TennesseeTyrants on Jan 11, 2011 4:28 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

Absolutely.

I can’t speak much on Matthews because I only was able to watch part of the game he played in.

Someone needs to tell Bud that Voldemort was the villain.

by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Jan 11, 2011 4:30 PM CST up reply actions  

The point though, and we seem to agree on this, is

that our offensive line issues could very well be solved (or at least temporarily fixed) by moving around a few players we already have on our roster.

Someone needs to tell Bud that Voldemort was the villain.

by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Jan 11, 2011 4:31 PM CST up reply actions  

But let's not forget the loyalty factor in all of this.

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We've had five-game losing streaks for twelve years now...and in no way is that depressing.

by ronburgundy7427 on Jan 11, 2011 4:52 PM CST up reply actions  

It's Fisher.

Injury is about the only way a personel problem gets fixed. Plus, I believe that Matthews probably wasn’t ready to play early in the year.

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by TennesseeTyrants on Jan 11, 2011 5:56 PM CST up reply actions  

C'mon man?

You mean how the Gage problem was solved in house with Williams? or Moss?or Scaife with Cook? I hope Matthews can unseat Harris and break into the starting lineup. He certainly has the right genetics. There is a place for loyalty and sticking with veterans, but not when it is hurting the team.

by Stormcrow on Jan 11, 2011 6:26 PM CST up reply actions  

Isn't Harris a FA as is?

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by ronburgundy7427 on Jan 11, 2011 4:52 PM CST up reply actions  

re: o-line

we need a veteran center, period. then you draft a beefy guard in the 2nd, 3rd or 4th and let all the other interior line guys fight for the remaining guard spot in camp and make cuts accordingly. interior o-line has to be #2 priority after LB. terrible blocking just wasted a year of CJ’s prime, and may have even led to an onset of happy feet. Fisher will always want to run the ball, so we have to be able to have some success there. even if teams are stacking the box, we cant have guys who get blown off the line of scrimmage like Amano, Harris, and Scott all did way too frequently this year. wouldn’t mind bringing a mid-round tackle in either to put some pressure on Roos and Stewart, who both had their worst seasons as pros this year.

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by hal41605 on Jan 11, 2011 5:44 PM CST reply actions  

I have zero faith

Fisher will admit his mistake with signing Amano to that ridiculous contract. I have seen it way too many times. If it hurts his ego to make the right decision, he will make the wrong decision every time.

by Stormcrow on Jan 11, 2011 6:28 PM CST up reply actions  

Safety

I totally agree with this. I have always loved Hope but we drafted 2 very talented safeties and I would love to see what they could do for us.

by TENNESSEETITANS on Jan 11, 2011 6:31 PM CST reply actions  

Weatherspoon man on

any TE made me vomit. BRING BACK DA GENERAL!

by Shibby Titan on Jan 11, 2011 7:25 PM CST reply actions  

Great post

I appreciate the consideration in creating this post (and series) as it is VERY evident (not that the passionate posts aren’t good – I just love reading something that is more deliberate).

I like your analysis here and you make some very persuasive points. I wonder if DInger’s health will have a hand in the decision on whether to retain him. I am happy to see your take on Rusty as the preseason hype proved to be unwarranted as he failed to do much of anything in 5 quarters of “real” football.

Can’t wait for the rest in the series! (and more like it!!)

by oilertitan on Jan 11, 2011 7:49 PM CST reply actions  

on Collins

I think the team needs to keep him for a backup. hopefully they can get a QB in FA, but it’s not a given. If we get a QB from the draft, we may even need Collins to start a couple of games. But if that’s the case, the rookie should at least play a few series in those first couple of games.

Just out of curiosity, who are the QBs in the UFL? Rhodes certainly seemed to thrive when he came back to the Cults. Perhaps there’s a QB over there worth considering as well…..

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by Evanbio on Jan 12, 2011 8:16 AM CST reply actions  

Get ready to retch

UFL stats are retarded. Their website is retarded. There’s six teams but only 4 qb’s were listed under stats. No wait there’s more. Did I mention this is retarded?

Daunte Culpepper (I really should stop the list here)
A McCown (I can’t tell if its Josh or Jake and does it matter?)
Jeff Garcia (is he a grandpa yet?)
Brooks Bollinger (just lost my lunch).
Ryan Perrilloux (must be work release)
Chase Clement (who)
Russ Michna (who)
Tim Rattay (Rattay is French for Sucks)
Matt Gutierrez (a USC qb not underachieving in the NFL?)
D. J. Shockley (oh me)
and lets not forget Liam O’Hagan (they gotta be making that name up)

Thanks to WIKIPEDIA for this information since the UFL website sucks and made me regret ever looking this up.

by asbestos_man on Jan 12, 2011 9:04 AM CST up reply actions  

Hey Rattay used to be a Titans backup

He could be serviceable…He already is “familiar” with the offense (Fisher’s type of guy).

"Sports do not build character. They reveal it."- John Wooten

by pragmaticjack on Jan 12, 2011 11:30 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

obviously I'm not serious

"Sports do not build character. They reveal it."- John Wooten

by pragmaticjack on Jan 12, 2011 11:31 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

OK, file that under "Nevermind"

i was hoping for better obviously, but thanks for the research. obviously i was too lazy for it. :D

TN Sports fan in Hoosier Country....

by Evanbio on Jan 12, 2011 12:27 PM CST up reply actions  

D.J. Shockley!

he was awesome in college

Get 'em.
"it ain't no sin in goin to da scrip club."
Music City Miracles Hall Of Fame, Class of 2010

by danielreese05 on Jan 12, 2011 6:30 PM CST up reply actions  

Thank you SuperHorn!

Great post. I am so glad you wrote this up. Like you said, we have a lot more strengths than weakness and with all the right decisions, we could turn things around big time. It is somewhat relieving to know that.

by Los Blancos Chicca on Jan 12, 2011 8:55 AM CST reply actions  

This is the kind of commitment that true ball enthusiasts should take even when their teams are performing perfectly well. SuperHorn now I know that you are interested in building Tennessee Titans. I am waiting for other series so that I learn from them.

Michael Jordan told to stop smoking in SF

by garramonea on Jan 12, 2011 11:23 AM CST reply actions  

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