Tennessee Titans Daily Links: Take Nnam-Di Edition
by August West on Jan 10, 2011 11:01 AM CST
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If you thought Bud Adams' admissions that money was a big factor in bringing Jeff Fisher back for 2011 was as annoying as I found it, then you'll also love the growing number of hints that Chuck Cecil may be back for next season as well. It's not that I don't think Chuck could succeed as an NFL DC in the right situation, it's just that we don't have time to wait for him to grow into the elite level of coordinator we need. It took Jim Schwartz around 4 years to get there, and I haven't seen any indications that Cecil is as smart or as instinctive as Schwartz proved to be. If I'm Fisher I'm praying that the Saints overreact to that dud of a defensive performance in Seattle and can Williams quickly. I doubt that happens, but I'll bet the farm that he's the best candidate to get this defense back to top-5 territory next year. In fact, here's how I'd fix the Titans' D in 5 easy steps: 1) Hire Gregg Williams, 2) Re-sign/trade for Albert, 3) Draft a DT or LB who is worth it at 8 overall, 4) Get McRath back on 'roids tainted supplements, 5) Sign Nnamdi (see below)
Nnamdi Asomugha (quick aside, in my head his name always sounds like it's being sung by the lead singer of A-Ha) will be a free agent whenever free agency begins thanks to some typical Al Davis wacky contract language that has voided the agreement before the final year. The Titans would be fools not to ardently pursue one of the NFL's best cornerbacks... of course, every NFL team can say the exact same thing. Literally the only thing anyone could worry about with Nnamdi is that he's so good he hasn't really been challenged in about three years. Still, who couldn't benefit from production like this:
According to Stats LLC, Asomugha was targeted on just 33 pass attempts this season. He allowed 13 completions for 205 yards and no touchdowns...
Breaking news: Jeff Fisher needs to win to stay employed beyond next season.
Jump!
Upon further analysis, Jeff Fisher still needs to win to stay employed beyond next season.
The biggest QB name on the trade market is without a doubt Kevin Kolb, and after yesterday's loss Kolb has let it be known that he wants to start or be traded. Kolb still has one year remaining on his deal, but he's only due $1.4 million for that year. The real question is does such a proclimation from a talent-yet-unproven QB raise or lower his price should the Eagles decide to keep Vick and trade Andy Reid's pet project.
Titans Sized takes a look at the WR position to determine who should stay and who should go next season. There's little debate among anyone with eyes that Gage and Scaife are and should be gone next year. If everything else goes smoothly this off-season with the WR group, we should return a core of Britt, Washington, Williams and Cook that could flourish with a decent QB who can make solid decisions and answer the bell each week. Some stability at QB is what this group needs more than anything else.
Colts choke (again) and the Eagles go down in flames thanks to a bad game from Vick... couldn't ask for much better out of a Titan-less wildcard weekend.
Reggie Wayne had a very unColts-like outburst yesterday after his team pissed all over a rather remarkable effort to salvage their season by losing to the Jets at home.
Congratulations are in order for Peyton Manning, who broke a record that should bear his name for all of time:
With his 108.7 passer rating in Saturday night’s loss to the Jets, QB Peyton Manning has the NFL record for most playoff losses with a rating over 90 (four). Manning extended his recordfor themost losses with a passer rating over 80 to six.
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resign babin/ ball
Bring back albert! Trade down draft Von miller in the first. Pursue either champ bailey or asamugha
by CJ2K shrine on Jan 10, 2011 11:14 AM CST via mobile reply actions
i also would love to keep tulluch and jacob ford
by CJ2K shrine on Jan 10, 2011 11:17 AM CST via mobile reply actions
Tulloch isn't that good in coverage, Ford is a pass-rush specialist at best who has had durability issues.
I’d rather use that money on new talent.
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We've had five-game losing streaks for twelve years now...and in no way is that depressing.
by ronburgundy7427 on Jan 10, 2011 11:23 AM CST up reply actions
Maybe on Ford if we can get him for around the minimum
but Tully is a different matter. He’s never been a play maker, but he’s a tackling machine. Someone will over pay for him, and we may be better off just cutting bait and moving on at this point.
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by August West on Jan 10, 2011 11:37 AM CST up reply actions
Tulloch
5 years in the league, zero forced fumbles for his career.
Couldn’t believe that stat when I saw it.
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by pound the rock on Jan 10, 2011 7:28 PM CST up reply actions
I'd rather have him no forced fumbles
than to have him flagged for face masks or arm tackling.
He’s a wrap up tackler.
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by Ice0ne (CAJ) on Jan 10, 2011 9:01 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
seems like you're cherry picking stats
he’s also in the top 5 for tacklers every year. of course, that’s really where his skill set ends, all he can do is stop the run.
Get 'em.
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by danielreese05 on Jan 10, 2011 9:17 PM CST up reply actions
ford is garbage
leads our team in offisides/encroachment/neutral zone infractions. time to cut bait here. there would be alot less 1st and 5 w/o him. 3 sacks in 14 games, he has regressed each yr since his rookie season. we need dl that get hurries on opposing qb’s. the second best thing to a sack is a hurry, it mean the qb says to himslef o shit lemme hurry this throw, we in turn creates turnover opportunites. it all ties in to a better defense. start with some of the little people of the team. bye bye # 78
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by houston oilers on Jan 10, 2011 11:35 AM CST reply actions
Nnamdi is phenomenal
But we already have two young promising CB vying for the starting spot opposite Finnegan. I’d rather see the Titans use money somewhere else.
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by Pinoy Titan on Jan 10, 2011 11:41 AM CST via mobile reply actions 1 recs
Neither of them can do what Nnamdi can do
and Verner has shown he can play the nickel. Depth at the D-line and DBs are critical for any team, and CBs like Nnamdi aren’t available without sacrificing draft picks very often.
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by August West on Jan 10, 2011 11:59 AM CST up reply actions
Have to agree
You can’t have too many good pass defenders, and Finnegan has dropped off a bit this year. Finnegan, Verner, McCourty, and Nnamdi would be a great situation. Competition in camp would be off the hook.
No doubt about it...
but not at the expense of not having enough cap money to pay for a Rookie or FA QB, a FA dominant DT (Haloti Ngata, Richard Seymour and, maybe, Haynesworth are available), a good FA coverage LB and resigning key players which are higher in priority. Remember our 2008 roster, we only had Harper and Finnegan but the whole defense was good because our pass rush was superior.
If we could pay for all of our needs plus Nnamdi, why not?
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by Pinoy Titan on Jan 11, 2011 10:43 AM CST up reply actions
no way..
Fisher will get resigned.
by datboybevans on Jan 10, 2011 11:42 AM CST via mobile reply actions
Yup
And then Bud will hire Cowher in 2012.
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by Pinoy Titan on Jan 10, 2011 11:47 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
Just when I think I know something for sure.....
I’m wrong!! I thought Bud wanted to win more than he wanted to save money….I was wrong!!! What’s soooooo funny is that you guys think Bud will sell the farm to get Nnamdi…when he would rather subject us all to another year of Fisherball (losing) rather than pay Jeff 6 mil?
by titansfan4ever on Jan 10, 2011 2:13 PM CST up reply actions
who thinks Bud wants Nnamdi?
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by Pinoy Titan on Jan 11, 2011 10:48 AM CST up reply actions
probaly couldn't pronounce his name
he’d probally call him Nami asoma.
I’d like to have him tho
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by Ice0ne (CAJ) on Jan 11, 2011 2:00 PM CST up reply actions
More bang for the buck
in improving the front 7, imo. We are in desperate need of quality at the LB position, and size on the DL. Improving these positions is going to indirectly help the secondary anyways. Cut Hope, get a safety, but skip on overpriced CBs. QB is still the most dire need of this team.
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Why not
Cut Hope, move Finny to safety, sign AwesomeWah and let ATV/McCourty compete for the other CB spot?
Finny got eaten up by some of the better WR’s he faced. I think he would make a great strong or free safety.
I also enjoy dreaming about getting a massive nose tackle, allowing Fisher to grow his hair out and get radical with a 3-4 defense. This dream also has Josh McDaniels (or Brian Schotty) signing on as OC to go with Ron Rivera at DC. Kolb slides down to TN via a VY+3rd rounder trade. CJ surpasses 1,000 yards receiving due to the unveiling of wicked screen plays and Steely Dan-esque “backfield-in-motion” splits to the slot.
Then I wake up and see Jake Scott pulling his traditional matador play, causing CJ to sustain another thigh injury early in the season and once again taking away his 6th gear for the rest of the year.
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by pound the rock on Jan 10, 2011 7:38 PM CST up reply actions
Sign Fat Albert? Why?
He’s already cashed his checks from Snyder. He has no incentive whatsoever to play hard or even stay in shape, for that matter.
by DoofusOfErasmus on Jan 10, 2011 12:05 PM CST reply actions
Absolutely correct.
I only want a MOTIVATED albert back? Not the mongolian stomper and unmotivated one. If he is unmotivated he’ll start his drama again just like he did here(remember he was a headache until he saw big $$$$$ coming his way) and in D.C.
I think he would be motivated
he wants to prove he can be the best and that whashington should have changed their defensive system because of him!
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Re:
According to Stats LLC, Asomugha was targeted on just 33 pass attempts this season. He allowed 13 completions for 205 yards and no touchdowns…
On the surface, that appears pretty solid. When broken down, though, that’s 6.2 yards per attempt. That’s relatively low, but, IMO, it’s not elite. At least, it’s not elite enough to command the kind of dollars that he’ll get in the open market.
He also doesn’t have any interceptions, which is a concern. Even if he had just one INT, that INT % would be 3%…still very low. Point being that lower targets doesn’t completely excuse the goose egg in the INT column.
Wouldn't the INT numbers be low because QBs never throw to his side?
by DoofusOfErasmus on Jan 10, 2011 12:08 PM CST up reply actions
Check out the second paragraph.
To answer your question, yes, they should be lower…proportionally. Even if he had one interception in 33 attempts, that’s still only 3%. If I’m a quarterback, that doesn’t exactly strike fear in my heart.
Average pass completion is 61% this year. Thrown toward Asomugha was 39%.
Forcing a pass completion percentage of 39% is troubling to any QB. What QB in their right mind would say, “Well, I’ll miss 2 out of 3 passes toward Asomugha, but hey, he’s unlikely to intercept it. Let’s do it!”
I would be curious to see stats for other CBs to see often they were targeted, completion %, and yards per completion.
Yeah, only getting 2 pass attempts per game
It’s kind of hard to put up any kind of stats with so few opportunities…however, I do think that Nnamdi is not at the same level he was 2-3 years ago. He is starting to get up in age and every player does slip eventually…so, I just wouldn’t over pay for him. I would consider him an upgrade over Finny though but I would prefer keeping the younger CBs still playing, ATV and McCourty.
by shawneriksmith on Jan 10, 2011 12:15 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
He's definitely an upgrade over any of our corners.
Don’t confuse this for total criticism. It’s just relative to the amount of money he will command.
It's all about the money
As Bud has reminded us recently.
by shawneriksmith on Jan 10, 2011 12:18 PM CST up reply actions
that's my thing
if we are gonna go for a huge money free agent, we need a front 7 play maker way more than a corner.
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Re:
we need a front 7 play maker way more than a corner.
Read: Dynamic outside linebacker.
I also wouldn’t be upset with spending some big bucks on a playmaker at the strong safety position.
I haven't seen enough of him to pass judgement. Since you said that, I'll keep an eye on him tonight.
Given all of our other needs, the guy would have to be a “can’t miss” stud.
Is MCM going to post about the players to watch tonight for us?
I’m going to be watching Newton- not because I want him but because I want some team above us to fall in love with this guy and grab him early.
Someone needs to tell Bud that Voldemort was the villain.
by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Jan 10, 2011 1:18 PM CST up reply actions
Please let him have a Young-like performance so someone takes him in Top 5!
Just need 467 total yards and a game-winning TD run.
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We've had five-game losing streaks for twelve years now...and in no way is that depressing.
by ronburgundy7427 on Jan 10, 2011 2:06 PM CST up reply actions
piece a cake!
Get 'em.
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by danielreese05 on Jan 10, 2011 2:09 PM CST up reply actions
This is what I'm hoping for!
Someone needs to tell Bud that Voldemort was the villain.
by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Jan 10, 2011 2:16 PM CST up reply actions
I'll take that
but i’m slightly open to him being a Titan
by nolesbroncos3456 on Jan 10, 2011 2:38 PM CST up reply actions
i agree
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by Ice0ne (CAJ) on Jan 10, 2011 4:30 PM CST up reply actions
i dunno
i feel like DT is a significant need still, esp. a guy with some beef since tony brown is up in the air with his knee.
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DT definitely isn't something that the staff should shrug off.
Part of my reasoning has to do with my belief that the coaching staff will bring back Haynesworth.
yeh, i agree
we need a beefy DT to clog up those inside gaps like Cholestoral in an artery.
Anbody think of somebody Mount Cody’s Size?
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by Ice0ne (CAJ) on Jan 10, 2011 2:21 PM CST up reply actions
I think if we were going to go DT
last year would’ve been the year to do so, there were 5 or 6 first roun talent type DT’s out there, and we let them go.
Puzzling if you ask me.
Sure Morgan could turn out to be great but with some of the huge DT’s we could’ve gotten to replace Al, you just have to wonder what they were thinking.
by Jeff Fisher's Power Stache on Jan 10, 2011 2:52 PM CST up reply actions
Our DTs are excellent
When healthy. I think that’s why they passed on DT.
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by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Jan 10, 2011 3:06 PM CST up reply actions
Problem is
none of the big 3 (Brown, Jones and Marks) have shown the ability to be healthy for a full season lately. I’m fine with that in this group, but that means we need another 1 or 2 DTs on their level or better to make this thing go when we need it.
Even I’m tired of banking on what a completely healthy Jason Jones can do… even though it would still be beastly.
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Oh I absolutely agree.
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by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Jan 10, 2011 4:10 PM CST up reply actions
Oh, and they're too small with Brown out.
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yea
I think DT is just the MOST important position on D in some ways.
I’d rather fix our line and LB issues before DB. Except replacing Hope.
by PocketfullofPoseys on Jan 10, 2011 10:09 PM CST up reply actions
One thing to point out in regards to Asomugha
He was still available in the 2003 draft when the Titans selected Woolfolk at #28. Imagine if Asomugha was a Titan all this time…Asomugha on the back end with Haynesworth on the line…that would have been really tough for QBs in 2007-2008.
by shawneriksmith on Jan 10, 2011 12:18 PM CST reply actions
In fairness,
I’m not sure a lot of owners would have. He’s great but that was a ridiculous amount of money.
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by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Jan 10, 2011 1:02 PM CST up reply actions
Very Disappointing!!!!
If Chuck C. is back I’m going to be very disappointed. Chuck has given it a good try but his refusal to make half time adjustment is an admission he is over his head. I go back to the KC game where it was 24-0 before the defense made a single stop. That game was the final nail in his coffin for me. The gameplan for that game was all wrong and he had no answers to stop or even slow down the Chiefs offense. Please 17 year coach fire or reassign Chuck C.
WRs
I hear Randy Moss will become available after this year. Maybe we should get him! I bet he would be a big help!
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Looking at the draft selections...
It is quite possible that the first QB taken will go at 5 (Arizona) and then at 7 (SF). What would it take to move up to 5? Moving up three slots may give us our pick of the QBs, whereas staying at 8 may leave us a choice between Jake Locker or taking a defensive player. Moving up would be an enticing option especially given Reinfeldt’s track record with first round picks.
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by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Jan 10, 2011 12:38 PM CST reply actions
Reinfeld's record of drafting well makes me prefer trading down
We can find a gem lower and increase the chance of making more good picks like Williams & ATV.
I like the idea of trading down
But for me personally, the most important need that has to be addressed is the QB. Reinfeldt could have an outstanding draft again but if we don’t have a QB in there somewhere (and not another sixth round flier either) then we’ve failed to address our biggest need. Perhaps the coaching staff believes Collins will play better when his fingers have a full offseason to heal but we desperately need a QB of the future.
Also, you mentioned ATV and Williams but I think they could be used as an argument for why we should trade up. We found a starting corner in the fourth round. If we can somehow find an impact LB in the middle rounds, that could help our defense immensely. I am of the opinion that Robert Johnson should be given a chance at safety so I’m not sure they’ll target that position early in the draft. Hypothetically, if we could deal a third round pick (SuperHorn cited below it would take a second rounder but I wouldn’t part with that) to move up, we could end up going QB in the first, LB in the second and have the fourth to address the secondary or offensive line.
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by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Jan 10, 2011 1:01 PM CST up reply actions
Don't disagree on any particular point
I think my opinion is flavored by the fact that I am not sold on any particular QB.
Also, unless it's a sure thing QB I'd rather go defense with the 1st pick.
And try to trade up into the bottom of the 1st round to get a QB that might pan out.
I agree with you on QB.
I’m not really sold yet on any, though I do like Gabbert. The reason I bring it up is because if Reinfeldt were to target one of the guys, I’m more inclined to believe him now.
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by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Jan 10, 2011 1:08 PM CST up reply actions
As much as I hate him and thought they were stupid for moving up, the Jets made the right call in getting Sanchez.
He may not be lighting anyone up a la some of those other young guys like Rodgers, Ryan and Flacco, but he has solidified that position for them and has shown improvement. Jets did what they had to do to get their QB, I think the Titans have to do the same.
Having said that, I do agree with some of your points above that QB is almost always a crapshoot and with Luck not coming out, I am not sold on any other prospects in this draft.
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We've had five-game losing streaks for twelve years now...and in no way is that depressing.
by ronburgundy7427 on Jan 10, 2011 2:09 PM CST up reply actions
I think the Titans are in good draft position right now
If they have to, they can go the Tampa Bay route and move up a few spots to take the guy they really want.
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by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Jan 10, 2011 2:17 PM CST up reply actions
I think the Free Agent pool is rich enough that we can find a solid QB there.
My issue is that I’m not impressed with any of the guys coming out this year at the QB position. Because the position is important, there’s not much draft value to be had at the QB position. Teams reach almost every year for a Qb, so you’ll see guys that should be graded as a second-third rounder being taken in the first round based on need. That concerns me as a fan, because of the opportunity cost that’s lost when you pass up other players with positions of better relative value in the draft.
I’ve got a series of posts I’m working on that will dive into these issues. For now, I’ll just say that I would be happy to see the Titans draft at safety, linebacker, or even center with their first pick.
I think the QB crop will be better next year.
What sort of free agent QBs are you interested in?
I’m not sure a lot could come in here and immensely improve us, though the consistency would be great. I like this idea though- in an ideal world I would nab a FA QB and still even look at Andy Dalton in the third.
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by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Jan 10, 2011 1:14 PM CST up reply actions
Meh
I don’t think there’s a center @ 8 so we’d have to trade down or trade back into the 1st from the 2nd. I’d be surprised if we went center because we usually count on Munchak to coach our o-line up. With CJ on our team I wouldn’t mind investing a 1st rounder in getting him some daylight tho.
Safety-I’m really hoping that our next safety is already on the roster.
Linebacker-I think this is what we really need. I’d like to see us go Linebacker.
Speaking of center
Would their be anything wrong with keeping Velasco their next year? I liked what I saw from him in the limited playing time and Munchak has had plenty of time to work with him. Plus you’re right, center at 8 is a little high.
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by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Jan 10, 2011 1:20 PM CST up reply actions
I'd rather keep him than Amano at this point
But that’s from a fan’s position.
Seems like Matthews didn’t do that bad either.
Yeesh two incorrect "theirs"
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by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Jan 10, 2011 1:28 PM CST up reply actions
Center at 8 is high. The hope would be that they could trade to mid-1st round and grab a guy there.
As for Munchak coaching guys up, Amano was a nightmare this year. He was OK at guard last year, though. We need a new center desperately, whether it be through the draft or free agency.
I agree, for the most part.
I don’t like any of the QBs in this draft. I’d rather pick up a free agent or suck it up and stick with Kerry next year, if we can solidify our O line and defense.
But before we run out and spend a top 10 pick on a Center, I want to give Matthews a chance. He played well, when he was in. Either way, a guard or center at number 8 is VERY high, unless it’s an absolutely can’t-miss, elite, franchise player, and I don’t know that we have any of those in this draft.
I would have us take a game changing DE/DT/LB at 8, or trade back for an interior lineman or safety.
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by TennesseeTyrants on Jan 10, 2011 6:05 PM CST up reply actions
I am not that against
the “trade for Orton” route.
never thought I’d say it but kind of the best stopgap.
by PocketfullofPoseys on Jan 10, 2011 10:12 PM CST up reply actions
So you think all of the QBs in the coming draft are not worth a first round pick?
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by Pinoy Titan on Jan 11, 2011 11:05 AM CST up reply actions
Yo.
Based on the chart (which obviously isn’t set in stone), it would require roughly a 2nd rounder in addition to our first round swap.
For a second rounder I wouldn't do it.
I wonder if a new CBA will impact those costs too. Let’s say a rookie scale comes into effect. The higher picks should suddenly gain a lot more value, but they would also seem to be more tradeable, since you’re not taking a monstrous financial risk.
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by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Jan 10, 2011 12:53 PM CST up reply actions
Possibly.
As for the possibility, I wouldn’t be surprised to see Tennessee make this move considering they traded our second rounder last year for a third round pick two years ago.
As theologic said above
We could also consider moving up to the late first round and target a QB then, and it would be cheaper.
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by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Jan 10, 2011 1:10 PM CST up reply actions
You mean moving down?
Even then, you should consider that we drafted both Britt and CJ in the later rounds of the draft. So, it’s “cheaper” in terms of cap liability, but you’re also forfeiting the opportunity to draft some great talent at other positions.
That’s OK, but the best teams generally don’t draft based exclusively on need. Doing so really pigeon holes you, and limits the talent pool. Of course, the best teams have this luxury because they are already loaded.
I don’t mean to lecture you on draft strategy, as I’m sure you’re already aware of all these points. My issue stems more from my lack of interest from this year’s Quarterback pool than anything else. If we were talking about Andrew Luck, I’d be singing a different tune entirely.
I wasn't clear enough- I meant moving up from our second round pick
We could stay at 8, take the best player available at LB or DT, and then possibly move up from 40th to say 30th, and look at a QB there.
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by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Jan 10, 2011 2:19 PM CST up reply actions
Based on draft history of this franchise, I will be shocked if they move up at all in the early rounds.
The trade to be able to get Cook was an anomaly compared to their usual strategy. I see them trading down into the middle of round one if anything from eight. Plus moving up from the early second round back into the later first usually requires the team moving up to give up next year’s first-rounder. I’d rather the franchise not do that personally.
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We've had five-game losing streaks for twelve years now...and in no way is that depressing.
by ronburgundy7427 on Jan 10, 2011 2:12 PM CST up reply actions
I think Reinfeldt does a pretty good job of reading the draft
He’s pounced and moved up a few times if the guy he wants is there. Cook and ATV come to mind.
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by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Jan 10, 2011 2:21 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah middle rounds they've moved around, I'm thinking more first three rounds.
It’s usually always been a trade down, Cook being the one exception I can think of in Reinfeldt’s time here.
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We've had five-game losing streaks for twelve years now...and in no way is that depressing.
by ronburgundy7427 on Jan 10, 2011 2:42 PM CST up reply actions
I'm not opposed to a trade down
We’ve got some big holes we need to fill.
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by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Jan 10, 2011 3:08 PM CST up reply actions
Don't forget about the Bills @ #3 taking a QB possibly
unless they’re in love w/ Fitzpatrick
by nolesbroncos3456 on Jan 10, 2011 2:39 PM CST up reply actions
I think QB is lower on their list since Fitzpatrick played really well
Plus that team has more holes than us. Taking a QB with Fitzpatrick there doesn’t really help them all that much.
Someone needs to tell Bud that Voldemort was the villain.
by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Jan 10, 2011 3:08 PM CST up reply actions
agreed
Think they go WR Blackmon or Green, to play along with Stevie Johnson
"The best years the Titans franchise has ever seen were the years when Steve was our quarterback."
by MexicanTitanFreak on Jan 10, 2011 3:10 PM CST up reply actions
Blackmon at three?
seems like a reach.
Get 'em.
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by danielreese05 on Jan 10, 2011 4:51 PM CST up reply actions
Thats what i thought
but ive seen him in the top ten on some boards….reach is true
"The best years the Titans franchise has ever seen were the years when Steve was our quarterback."
by MexicanTitanFreak on Jan 10, 2011 4:56 PM CST up reply actions
My how the mighty have fallen!!!
Manning and Brees will both be watching the rest of the playoffs from their living rooms….WOW….somehow, that makes me feel better.
Manning sad face=Titan Freak happy face!
"The best years the Titans franchise has ever seen were the years when Steve was our quarterback."
by MexicanTitanFreak on Jan 10, 2011 2:45 PM CST up reply actions
who's jersey?
does fish wear now when he wants to feel like a winner?
by NJ Titans Fan on Jan 10, 2011 5:20 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Matt Ryan?
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We've had five-game losing streaks for twelve years now...and in no way is that depressing.
by ronburgundy7427 on Jan 10, 2011 6:05 PM CST up reply actions
Tom Brady?
Aaaron Rodgers?
Ray Ray, Ed “Crusty beard” Reed, oe Flaaco?
Winning Lottery Ticket #s??
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by Ice0ne (CAJ) on Jan 10, 2011 9:03 PM CST up reply actions
Carolina has hired Ron Rivera s next coach
He was one I had hoped for if the other shoe had fallen last week.
"The best years the Titans franchise has ever seen were the years when Steve was our quarterback."
by MexicanTitanFreak on Jan 10, 2011 2:43 PM CST reply actions
great hire
he’s a hell of a coach who got screwed in chicago and worked wonders in SD.
by nolesbroncos3456 on Jan 10, 2011 2:48 PM CST up reply actions
Disappointing, he would've been great for the defense.
I think if a change is made next offseason, it’ll be someone from the Mike Holmgren days in Seattle or maybe from the Eagles. Reinfeldt would have connections to both from his days in Green Bay and Seattle right?
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We've had five-game losing streaks for twelve years now...and in no way is that depressing.
by ronburgundy7427 on Jan 10, 2011 2:52 PM CST up reply actions
Not many from the holmgren tree out there
Gruden is the biggest name and Zorn…yikes!
"The best years the Titans franchise has ever seen were the years when Steve was our quarterback."
by MexicanTitanFreak on Jan 10, 2011 3:02 PM CST up reply actions
What if he used connection to Andy Reid and went Mornhinweg?
I don’t know if I really want the guy, but I could see it happening. Or Reinfeldt may just surprise us all…or Fisher for that matter, who knows.
Future ghostwriter of Jeff Fisher's autobiography, "Moustache Ride: A True Story of Love, Lies and Betrayal".
We've had five-game losing streaks for twelve years now...and in no way is that depressing.
by ronburgundy7427 on Jan 10, 2011 3:05 PM CST up reply actions
It would be suprising to say the least
"The best years the Titans franchise has ever seen were the years when Steve was our quarterback."
by MexicanTitanFreak on Jan 10, 2011 3:08 PM CST up reply actions
Mornhinweg's interesting.
From what I know he’s getting a bit of interest from around the league for possible HC spots, but he also sucked mightily in Detroit. Now, everyone sucked in Detroit, but its hard to evaluate what was on him for their poor play.
Someone needs to tell Bud that Voldemort was the villain.
by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Jan 10, 2011 3:11 PM CST up reply actions
Like you said, evaluating his performance in only two years isn't very different from evaluating Fisher based just on 2004-2005.
Detroit was an absolute train wreck in the early 2000’s, and no amount of coaching could have changed that.
There’s a laundry list of reasons why they struggled, but you only need to know this:
In year one, his QB’s were Charlie Batch and Ty Detmer.
In year two, his starting QB was rookie Joey Harrington.
Then again, he did pick to kick in overtime based on wind…
And Matt Millen was his GM, Tony Dungy probably wouldn't have succeeded with that situation.
Future ghostwriter of Jeff Fisher's autobiography, "Moustache Ride: A True Story of Love, Lies and Betrayal".
We've had five-game losing streaks for twelve years now...and in no way is that depressing.
by ronburgundy7427 on Jan 10, 2011 3:25 PM CST up reply actions
God couldn't have won with Matt Millen's teams.
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It says a lot when even Barry Sanders admits even he couldn't save them
from Matt Millen
by nolesbroncos3456 on Jan 10, 2011 3:51 PM CST up reply actions
Matt Millen couldnt save himself from Matt Millen!
"The best years the Titans franchise has ever seen were the years when Steve was our quarterback."
by MexicanTitanFreak on Jan 10, 2011 4:57 PM CST up reply actions
yea
FO had an interesting “Morinwehg deserves another shot” article. Somewhat interesting.
Wasn’t he the motorcycle guy tho?
by PocketfullofPoseys on Jan 10, 2011 10:14 PM CST up reply actions
Meh
I’m not sure Rivera will be all that great as a HC.
Someone needs to tell Bud that Voldemort was the villain.
by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Jan 10, 2011 3:10 PM CST up reply actions
i wouldn't mind if we went lf we went linebacker in the 1st and seconf round.
Trade out of 8 to 14 and get von miller and pray greg jones falls to us in the second. Third round we can get our center. I’m also just not sold on mallett in the 1st round or devlin the second. I think free agency is deep with qbs this year .
by CJ2K shrine on Jan 10, 2011 2:59 PM CST via mobile reply actions
why?
is everyone in lust with von miller on this site? i agree the dude’s gonna be a beast in the nfl, but in the right D. he’s not suited for the 4-3. he’s more of a 3-4 lb.
by NJ Titans Fan on Jan 10, 2011 5:23 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I agree with this, he seems more suited for the 3-4. What about that Ayers guy?
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by ronburgundy7427 on Jan 10, 2011 6:06 PM CST up reply actions
because he is more of a 3-4 LB
He is built to cover RBs and Te’s Better than our 4-3.
so in Nickel and Dime he’d be better than tully would be.
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by Ice0ne (CAJ) on Jan 10, 2011 9:06 PM CST up reply actions
He seems built to rush the passer to me.
"Do the Titans have a miracle left in them in what has been a magical season to this point? If they do, they need it now. Christie kicks it high and short. Gonna be fielded by Lorenzo Neal at the 25; he dishes it back to Wycheck; he throws it across the field to Dyson. 30, 40, 50, 40, 30, 20, 10, 5, endzone...touchdown, Titans! There are no flags on the field! It's a miracle! Tennessee has pulled a miracle! A miracle for the Titans!"
by TennesseeTyrants on Jan 10, 2011 9:23 PM CST up reply actions
i got three points:
1. I’m not sold on Kolb, especially after he lost any chance of starting any more games after losing/having their team quit on him to our horrid defense.
2. Passer rating is possibly the most useless stat in football.
3. The Raiders are crazy! Let’s get us a shutdown corner!
Kolb is immature
He helped rid Philly of McNabb by demanding to start
Oh hai MCM
by Dagger22 on Jan 10, 2011 5:02 PM CST via mobile reply actions
i wonder why..
Bud Adams last interview isn’t posted on the site?
by datboybevans on Jan 10, 2011 5:11 PM CST via mobile reply actions
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