Tennessee Titans Morning Links: Albert Haynesworth Trade Talks Resurface Edition
by August West on Sep 7, 2010 11:11 AM CDT
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Jimmy posted it earlier, but here's my two cents: USA Today is reporting that ESPN is reporting that the Redskins are dangling a trade for Albert Haynesworth with the Titans. Yes, I did everything I could to make sure that Chris Mortensen wasn't just reading an old scrap of paper he found in the pants he wore on draft day. The Washington Post says the talks aren't surprising. The alleged cost is two draft picks, but the rounds aren't specified in the report. If it's anything less than a 3rd rounder they have to make this happen. Albert is acting like a baby in Washington, but this team knows how to handle him and get the most out of the big man. Yes, we already have a deep defensive line, but you don't miss the chance to bring in a guy who can be one of the most dominant defensive players in the league. Too much top-end talent is never, ever a bad thing.
Man, you go out of pocket for one Sunday afternoon and the Titans just blow your mind. I was feeling pretty good about the roster when I woke up early Sunday morning to head out for a roadtrip with the wife, and when I check my phone that night Blount is gone for... two special teams reserve linebackers? Wow. The team must have known they were going to kick LeGarrette to the curb pretty soon after the Saturday cuts, and now that the bid to get him on the practice squad fail it's going to be interesting to see who they bring in for the 3rd RB (which, yes, they do need a 3rd RB even if he is inactive for half the games).
Follow us through the jump for an update on Britt....
Kenny Britt is saying that the meltdown we all saw last Thursday night is all behind him, and is vowing to start the season with a clean slate and a better mental outlook. I'm sure most Titans fans are as skeptical as I am that Britt can turn the page that quickly, but if we can just see some incremental improvement that gives him a little confidence and momentum early on, it'll go a long way towards getting him back on track. It's really touchy because the whole issue is between his ears, not in some injury that doctors and coaches know how treat. That being said, he doesn't have to be Tony Robbins to go out and help this offense on Sunday.
David Boclair talks with Chris Johnson about where he honed his incredible speed. CJ2K gives a lot of the credit o barefoot races on the streets of his Orlando neighborhood where local kids would square-off in sprints. The light-pole to light-pole races helped build CJ's incredible drive and competitiveness, and probably go a long way towards his habit of challenging all comers to impromptu races.
Boclair looks at the holes still left on the Titans' roster after this weekend's cuts, pick-ups and practice squad signings.
Raheem Brock was among several names familiar to NFL fans cut by the Titans, and it's looking like he could retire as a result got signed by Seattle over the weekend.
Just six more days until we get the first shot at burying that horrendous ghost of last year's 0-6 start.
The Texans signed Matt Leinart to a one year deal after the bust-tastic QB was out-right cut by Arizona on Saturday. How crappy of a feeling is it to be a top 10 pick just 5 years ago, and lose your roster spot to Derrick Anderson? Probably about as bad as being the guy who drafted said QB.
In other disgraced USC superstar news, several media (mostly Yahoo!)outlets are saying that the Heisman Trust will yank Reggie Bush's Heisman Trophy when the NCAA makes their final ruling because on whether the running back was ineligible during the season he won it. On the other hand, Chris Fowler of ESPN was just on Sports Center saying that the report is wrong.
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Theory
My theory on the RB situation is this:
I think Samkon Gado beat out Blount for the 3rd RB spot – not saying I agree with it, but they really like Ringer and I think Blount was weak at special teams and in pass protection/blitz pick-up
I think the Titans plan to bring Gado back in after the first game – if he was on the roster for the first game his salary would have been gauranteed – similar to what happened to Laveranues Coles on Hard Knocks last week
I also think the Titans thought they could sneak him through waivers and sign him to the practice squad – hence cutting him after the initial 53 man roster was set
And who knows – Blount still may end up getting cut again this season and may well end up on the Titans roster
One problem.
the team that signs someone off of waivers have to have them on their ACTIVE roster for at least a couple of weeks.
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i doubt teh guy who drafted leinart 10th overall the year fater he wouldve gone 1st felt that bad
it turned out bad, but when you go all in with pocket aces and the othey guy beats you with his 2-7, you just have to brush it off. no one thought leinart at 10 was bad back then
We have to do
Everything it takes to bring Albert haynesworth back! Please get this done front office!!!
by RhiNo6705 on Sep 7, 2010 11:48 AM CDT via mobile reply actions
if the skins want a third,
give them a third.
check out our past 3rd round picks.
you can’t find a single player on there even remotely as valuable as albert on a so-so day. even if he is just a huge body that eats up double teams, it’s definitely worth it.
i know we wouldn’t want to risk missing out on the next courtney roby or shad meier, but i think it’s probably a risk I can live with.
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by hal41605 on Sep 7, 2010 12:17 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Wrong.
We got Paul Williams in the third round.
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Superstar in the making!
I’m sure that his one career catch was immensely valuable to our team.
The only QB from the 2006 draft class still on his original team is Vince Young.
by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Sep 7, 2010 12:31 PM CDT up reply actions
Geeze our third rounders have been terrible.
I still wouldn’t pony up a third for Haynesworth. We have all the leverage, why cave to their demands?
The only QB from the 2006 draft class still on his original team is Vince Young.
by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Sep 7, 2010 12:30 PM CDT up reply actions
seriously though,
the only value a 3rd round pick has is the potential to draft someone with high value. given the titans’ track record, i would have to say that a 3rd round pick has almost zero value to the organization, because we never draft anyone who ends up being worth a damn in the 3rd.
I still have hopes for cook and mouton, but seriously, we have burned a ton of third round picks on nobodies. so how can using a 3rd round pick on a disgruntled former all-pro be any worse call than burning it on some stiff that never makes any impact at all?
anyone wanting to use the “a third rounder is too expensive” line about albert needs to explain to me what exact good you envision having a 3rd round pick next april is going to do us.
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LEGARRETTE BLOUNT!
HE WASN’T DRAFTED THIS YEAR SO THAT MEANS HE STILL HASN’T BEEN DRAFTED!!!!
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by gramsey712 on Sep 7, 2010 12:46 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Just because our thirds have been bad doesn't mean they will continue to be bad.
On the flip side of that, they very well may be bad picks next year as well. If our defensive line had looked terrible, I’d say the third might be worth it for Haynesworth. Right now though, our defensive line looks great. They have given us hope for restoring our defense. Haynesworth makes that line better obviously, but doesn’t make as much of an increase as he would if our line was still looking shaky. That’s why I don’t think he’s worth a third. He’s no longer filling one of our biggest needs.
Plus, the Skins have no leverage at all. Shanahan has created even more of a mess than before with Albert. Is there anyone else besides the Titans interested? We’re the team thats most comfortable taking him.
The only QB from the 2006 draft class still on his original team is Vince Young.
by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Sep 7, 2010 12:50 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm all for this trade.
But, wasn’t D. Williams a 3rd pick this year? I think he may prove to be the exception to the Titans 3rd round draft record. Hopefully.
Both
Curran was the comp pick we got for losing Haynesworth. Quite the downgrade (in size only)
I'm no super-genius... or are I?
And Stevens was a 3rd round pick two years ago
So, a 3rd round pick is valuable but not overly so…I would still negotiate just a 4th round pick and if the Redskins really, really wanted another pick then a conditional pick ranging from 5th to 7th round.
by shawneriksmith on Sep 7, 2010 2:26 PM CDT up reply actions
Random 3rd round pick>big fat Al.....
who is so out of shape he can’t even pass an agility test, for crying out loud!!
by titansfan4ever on Sep 7, 2010 2:36 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, on the purpose of...
he couldn’t push away from the buffet line.
by titansfan4ever on Sep 7, 2010 2:40 PM CDT up reply actions
Wrong.
He is actually down in weight.
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Well, he's still got a heavy foot...
just ask the Cowboy players.
by titansfan4ever on Sep 7, 2010 2:43 PM CDT up reply actions
He failed because two reasons...
At first he really had no interest in it, and because Shanny was purposely showing him who was running things. That’s my thoughts anyway.
doubling down on this one
it happens EVERY TIME a new coach takes over a team where the last coach was fired: a few vets get singled out as part of the problem and the coach shows everyone else who is in charge by either cutting or demoting them.
Bill Parcells was the king of it.
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or as in
if i fail test i don’t have to practice, but i’m still at camp
Just ask gramsey, A-Dub...
he’ll back me up on this one.
by titansfan4ever on Sep 7, 2010 3:00 PM CDT up reply actions
Do you really want to be on his side?
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"What if I was Peyton Manning?"- CJ to the ref after they picked up a personal foul flag for a late hit on him.
Nope
I have given up being outraged at these thugs and lowlifes.
If teams are still gonna pay them more than I will ever make in my life to play a game even after they continue to act like common street trash, then why should I be upset?
At least get the best ones on my team so we can win!
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utter stupidity
Random 3rd round pick>big fat Al…..
just completely ridiculous, entirely untethered to reality
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moves
i know everyone has good memories of haynesworth NOW but is he really gonna be dedicated after getting paid all that money and coming back to the titans? i wouldnt mind having him back but i dont know how much i would expect out of him.
and letting blount go so they could add some special teams players was stupid!! why not just sign one LB outright and sign the second guy to the practice squad?? and thinkin he would clear waivers is even stupid-er! but if they bring back gado, in the manor that titanrob believes, then it would make alittle more sense.
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Soooooo...
When VY beats Hou in the annual Houston Bowl, does that mean he’s killing two birds with one stone in beating leinart too?
Only if Leinart plays....
which he won’t.
by titansfan4ever on Sep 7, 2010 2:38 PM CDT up reply actions
Unless Schaub comes up lame again...
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Can't really say I have interest in Haynesworth.
I know I’m probably in the minority but anything more than a 5th rounder is too much. I’d much rather run Jones, Brown, and Marks out there. This isn’t the same team as when Haynesworth played, no Bullock, no Vanden Bosch, no Mawae, no Schwartz, basically no vetern leadership. As someone who lives in D.C., the Skins would be elated if they could anything for Haynesworth.
Sucks that they let Blount go, I believe he could have been more than a third rb, if givent he opportunity he may have beaten out Ringer imo but oh well, time to move on.
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by Pinoy Titan on Sep 7, 2010 1:22 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
We prefer it when you spell the name of an all-time Titan correctly.
The only QB from the 2006 draft class still on his original team is Vince Young.
by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Sep 7, 2010 6:10 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Spelling his name correctly PROVES you know the Titans...
otherwise we have to question any/every opinion you choose to give about OUR team.
Yes...
because I put an “o” instead of a “u” means that there is no way I could be Titans fan.
Correct...since you are man enough to recognize your mistake/s...
you may proceed…..with caution.
and for the record, you spelled all of the hard names correctly...
but missed on one of the greatest Titans ever. You should be proud of the first parts and ashamed of the 2nd.
& it is some of our's biggest pet peeve
The man played here for 10 freakin years, & still gets his name spelled wrong.
Didn't we already give up a first round pick on this carismatic fellow
how many draft picks can we use on this guy
I hope this gets done soon, I’m getting no work done today because of this
I'm no super-genius... or are I?
If we could re-draft guys
in the third round after their initial contract instead of paying them 100 million dollars for a second one, I think we’d do it every time.
Well we got a comp pick for him
So we are even right now.
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"What if I was Peyton Manning?"- CJ to the ref after they picked up a personal foul flag for a late hit on him.
We need to move on from Haynesworth
Haynesworth reached his peak while he was with Tennessee. One thing I can say about Fisher is that he usually knows when to cut players loose. Most of those that he let go and every one paniced over were never quiet as good as they were in Tennessee.
AGRIFF
I think the team knew better than to pay him obscene amounts of money.
We knew he was going to get a huge payday sometime from someone, and kudos to the Titans organization for letting him go get it elsewhere. But that’s not a hurdle now.
Does Matt Leinart know that the Titans are in the same division as he is?
I can’t wait for him to look at the Texans schedule and start violently shaking when he sees they have to play Vince Young twice.
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I keep your daughter way out past her curfew
Anyone who thinks we shouldn't get back Albert Haynesworth is slower than Albert Haynesworth.
And that’s saying something.
Seriously, we lost all our big names on defense. It’s being called a ‘no-name’ defense right now for a reason. We should get the guy back.
by fanoftheunderdogs on Sep 7, 2010 4:09 PM CDT reply actions
Our no-name defense is looking pretty darn good right now.
I can see the benefit of getting him, but I’m quite happy with this defense as is.
And no, I’m not slower than Albert Haynesworth.
The only QB from the 2006 draft class still on his original team is Vince Young.
by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Sep 7, 2010 4:21 PM CDT up reply actions
Our D looked good against teams not gameplaning for them
They have potential to be good. Potential. This is the same group who couldnt get pressure last year. I’m still not convinced they have gotten so much better that we should pass on getting Al back. Why not add a guy who at worst is going to draw a double team & free up Jason Jones & Capt Morgan for one-on-one? If u can do it for a 4th & another pick 5-7, do it. If they want a 3, then only give em a 3. Ford is so quick up front, he could be the biggest benifactor to Al returning. All we need is one lineman to step up & be disruptive. Adding Al would make that alot more atainable(?)
La Canfora believes he'll eventually end up in Tennessee.
The only QB from the 2006 draft class still on his original team is Vince Young.
by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Sep 7, 2010 6:11 PM CDT up reply actions
Just saw that Titans are offering a 4th round pick
But Washington wants a 2nd rounder…like any team will give up a 2nd rounder now.
This would be a good idea because
we find talent where other teams don’t look, I mean….how do you miss Cortland Finnagen? How did we get him? I’ll tell you why, we have excellent scouts. Hell how do you pass up CJ for that matter?
2 things I Believe
Blount,
Stafon Johnson beat him out and they have him as a project and couldn’t afford to keep 2 projects. (Yes I realize Johnson is not on the roster, but any 3rd string back is at best a project, at worst inactive every week.) Though I loved watching Blount run.
Haynesworth,
Jones, Haynesworth, Morgan, Hayes/Ford, would not just be good, they would dominate and win games for by themselves. Think through that line for a second. You saw Jones in preseason. A beast. Yes Haynesworth will get dinged and not try as hard to be on the field when not playing for a new contract. But he will still demand double teams and try hard in the big games.
so just forget about brown....
Who is our dominate starter.
by datboybevans on Sep 7, 2010 8:33 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
so just forget about brown....
Who is our dominate starter.
by datboybevans on Sep 7, 2010 8:33 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
LOL, good point
I’d move Jones to DE on some plays(obvious run downs, etc).
Imagine Jones, Al, Brown, & Ford….
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