The Titans 53-ish Man Roster: A-Dub Style
Ahh the end of preseason. College ball is starting up, the oppressive southern summer is starting to break and lots of camp bodies are about to make the saddest walk to the parking lot they'll ever make. It's a damned hard thing to say that a guy has been cut from an NFL team. It often means the end of a dream they've had for their entire cognizant lives. As a sympathetic fan, the only thing worse is knowing that the player making that walk is better than the guy who gets to stay. Yet, it happens.
So with that in mind, I'm putting out my own version of this all-to-common post with a little bit of a twist: Lots of 53 man roster predictions are an attempt to guess what's going to happen, but this is a declaration of what should happen based upon everything I've seen, read and concluded from intensely following this team for years. The list is 54 players long if you count McRath. It's useless to predict who will lose a spot once he's healthy because, as any soldier will tell you, the best laid plans never survive first contact with the enemy.
So, with no further ado, lets head through the jump for the roster and my own comments:
Offense
QB (3): Vince Young, Kerry Collins, Rusty Smith
AW: No surprises here, it's what we've all been thinking it would be for months now. Smith hasn't impressed much in preseason matches, but he has done so in camp and will be the 3rd QB who isn't active for most games.
RB (3): Chris Johnson, Javon Ringer, LeGarrette Blount
AW: Gado could be the surprise here because the staff seems high on him. In the end though, I just don't see the benefit in having him on there unless there are questions about Ringer's ability to be consistent in the little things. If Gado survives the cut it's more a knock on Ringer than Blount, IMO.
FB (1): Ahmard Hall
AW: He's the Sarge. 'nuff said.
TE (3): Bo Scaife, Jared Cook, Craig Stevens
AW: it wouldn't shock me one bit to see the Titans find a way to carry a fourth tight end for blocking and special teams purposes, but I don't think it's a necessity since Stevens is a key special teamer and figures to lose reps to Cook in the passing game despite his growth in that role. Few teams in the league have the quality depth and familiarity with the system at this position we do.
WR (6): Justin Gage, Nate Washington, Kenny Britt, Lavelle Hawkins, Damian Williams, Marc Mariani
AW: Mariani should be a lock at this point. Not only is he a legit returner, but he's shown some flashes at the wide receiver position. Hawk has come on enough to be counted on at the bottom end of the rotation, and Williams is a promising young wide-out. This is the best group of targets we've seen in a while. If there's one position group on offense where it seems like I'm going with one more guys than they'll carry, it's here, but everyone on this list will help this team.
OL (8): Dave Stewart, Jake Scott, Eugene Amano, Leroy Harris, Michael Roos, Mike Otto, Troy Kropog and Fernando Velasco
AW: The starters are set in stone, and the back-ups are almost as obvious. Otto has been a fixture at the back-up tackle spot for a minute, and Kropog still has value as a versatile guard/right tackle. Velasco could be unseated, but the best candidate is Kevin Mathews, and the Titans should have no problem getting him through waivers and on the practice squad.
Defense
DE (6): William Hayes, Jacob Ford, Derrick Morgan, Jason Babin, Eric Bakhtiari, Dave Ball
AW: I know Bakhtiari isn't on a lot of 53 man roster predictions, but I get the vibe he's a guy the staff has liked for a while, and fits the Jim Washburn profile. He's played well in the preseason and shown some fire in camp (apparently to the occasional chagrin of Blount, apparently). Ball makes the cut because he can play inside and outside. Expect these guys to trade of DNPs from week-to-week depending on the match-up.
DT (4): Tony Brown, Jason Jones, Sen'Derrick Marks, Jovan Haye
AW: Seems like they have to carry more than four DTs, but keeping Ball on the roster really gives them five DTs. There's young talent in Howard and some of the other guys in camp, but they'd all be easy marks for the practice squad.
LB (6, before McRath): Will Witherspoon, Stephen Tulloch, Rennie Curran, Jamie Winborn, Collin Allred, Stanford Keglar, [Gerald McRath]
AW: McRath got popped for PEDs and won't count against the roster until his suspension is over. That's what saves Stanford Keglar's roster spot. Allred is a steady back-up who helps a ton on special teams and should be safer than some of the guys ahead of him (namely Jamie WInborn).
CB (5): Cortland Finnegan, Jason McCourty, Alterraun Verner, Ryan Mouton, Vincent Fuller
AW: While this group looks a little short, I think the Titans enter week one with just five CBs on the roster because their scheme and over-the-top coverage with the safeties makes it plausible to play safeties at the dime spot as needed. Fuller is always listed as a safety, but he plays the nickle, and Mouton and Verner can step in there as needed.
S (5): Chris Hope, Michael Griffin, Myron Rolle, Robert Johnson, Nick Schommer
AW: The Titans have to be honest with themselves and start grooming legit back-ups at the safety position. Nickey isn't going to play anything other than special teams at a level that isn't vomit inducing, and Fuller needs to concentrate on the nickle spot. Rolle and Johnson have the one thing no other back-up safety has brought to this team in years: up-side. You have to keep them, and I think there's no question that Schommer has outplayed both. So, to make the best safety group out of the available guys, it's time to cut Nickey loose. Any argument to the contrary is just stupid at this point.
Special Teams
K (1): Rob Bironas
P (1): Brett Kern
LS (1): Ken Amato
AW: These guys are locks, obviously
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Wishful thinking
Nickey makes the team.
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Oh I know
But I also know that by doing this, you are giving people false hope that something is going to happen that will not happen.
And that just breaks hearts.
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It's called speculation, gramsey.
And ‘false hope’ is only false if it doesn’t happen. And that remains to be seen.
by fanoftheunderdogs on Sep 1, 2010 5:59 PM CDT up reply actions
A-Dub loves safeties
Minus Nickey. Too bad there is no shot he doesn’t make this team.
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"What if I was Peyton Manning?"- CJ to the ref after they picked up a personal foul flag for a late hit on him.
Even under your ground rules, Rolle=wishcasting
Nickey’s outplayed him this preseason, and has experience in the system. Plus, with five other safeties (Fuller’s never playing outside beyond emergency situations, so he’s not a corner), it’s not like he’ll actually be on the field. You don’t have to like it, but you should accept that.
They do seem to like Bakhtiari on special teams, but keeping sixth defensive end is a waste of a roster spot. They got stuck carrying 10 DL last season, but there’s no need to voluntarily repeat that error this year.
You are gonna get killed for that
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We'll agree to disagree on Nickey outplaying anyone in the past 5 years only because I've stated my argument plenty of times...
Fuller is the nickle back and is only slightly more likely to play safety than he is outside. So while you won’t call him a corner, I don’t call him a safety. He’s not developmental or contributing depth there. That’s why they need Rolle and Johnson for this season and for the future.
If they keep Nickey over Schommer that’s fine, but why the hell do you waste a draft pick on a guy like Rolle without giving him more time to knock the rust off and see if he can play in the NFL. The main reason he plummeted in the draft was rust, so why pull the plug so quickly?
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by August West on Sep 1, 2010 2:52 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
That is why they will try to sign him
to the practice squad.
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I don't think he makes it
but maybe I’m wrong.
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by August West on Sep 1, 2010 3:01 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Based on?
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"What if I was Peyton Manning?"- CJ to the ref after they picked up a personal foul flag for a late hit on him.
See, that's the problem
The main reason he plummeted in the draft wasn’t rust at all: it’s because he didn’t project to be a very good NFL player. He probably doesn’t have to be the speed to play safety in the Titans’ defense, so he’s an in-the-box guy only. That’s the biggest strike against his play. As an in-the-box guy who hasn’t been tackling people for a year, that’s a whole separate issue.
To make the roster, he needed to show better speed than he did in college, and to stand out on special teams. I thought he’d at least do the latter, and predicted at the start of camp he would make the team over Nickey.
If there’s an injury to Griffin or Hope, I expect Fuller to be the guy who plays there.
Blount
A power runner who doesn’t run well between the tackles right now and doesn’t have a grasp of the whole offense. I’m not sure he makes the cut and think he’s being a bit overrated. I think the 3rd RB isn’t on the roster right now, but like Gado more than Blount.
Wonder how he would be
running between 1st team tackles…
What!
Doesn’t run well between the tackles! LOL You didn’t watch the games because Blount ran 10 yards right through the middle!
Blount's running has looked pretty dang good since the first game
but the RBs can deal with one rookie in the mix. Like I said above, if Gado makes the cut I think that’s more of a knock on Ringer than Blount, and I think they seriously consider carrying 4 backs.
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Just don't see him excelling in short yardage
He isn’t a guy that hits the hole especially hard, he’s plenty strong, and fast enough, but just not that quick or aggressive hitting the hole. It doesn’t make him a bad runner, just not the ideal change of pace power guy people want him to be when they see his frame. Do I think he can be a legit NFL RB? Yes. Do I think he will be better than Ringer or CJ on any down in 2010? No. He can develop into that guy, but that’s not how he was used at Oregon, and I haven’t really seen it in the pre-season. He has been fairly impressive in space from what I’ve seen, but not in tight quarters, which is what he needs to bring to the table.
I want him to be that bruiser and was stoked about the pickup… but I haven’t been sold.
He never went down on...
first contact! That is what short yardage backs are for. He is able to break a tackle in the back field and gain that extra yardage for the first down.
You should answer your own questions for Gado...
For Gado: Do I think he can be a legit NFL RB? No. Do I think he will be better than Ringer or CJ on any down in 2010? No. At least Blount has the potential to be really good…Gado is just a serviceable vet.
by shawneriksmith on Sep 1, 2010 6:09 PM CDT up reply actions
We don't need a serviceable vet!
We already have a successful RB that can teach the younger RBs all they need to know! The only time you need a Vet is if you don’t have someone with the experience to teach the younger guys! They only brought Gado in to make Blount work harder and to give the others rest!
Big difference
Gado can handle the whole playbook and Blount probably won’t as a rookie, so he’ll need to earn his keep in short yardage until then. I see him as a situational guy for a few years, but I’m not sold he brings a lot of value to that role right now. I’m cheering for the kid, but a spot on the roster means he needs to contribute, and I think there may be some better options out there after cuts.
by WC22 on Sep 1, 2010 7:42 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
how much do the backup RBs
really contribute for the Titans?
Usually more than they did last year...
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Maybe
But Blount is muccccccho cheaper than Gado.
Is it strange that I wish we still had Ben Hartsock?
Blount is a lot better...
Than Gado in my eyes! With Blount you have a guy that is new to this league and already dragging guys down the field!
Gado looked nice but two 4 yard TDs is nothing to get a hard for! In other situations Gado didn’t do much in the open field! Gado is a good back, but it looks like Blount is a future elite back. This is why he didn’t get many looks because it didn’t take much to see his potential! He got like 40+ yards on a hand full of carries.
Only time he got tackled was if there were 4 to 5 guys on him or if he got hit low! How can you argue with that?
Not muccccho
I doubt Gado’s signed to anything much more than the veteran minimum, maybe with escalators based on playing time and whatnot. It’s not a multi-million dollar difference like Collins and Simms.
I like this Roster even though...
I kinda would like to see more from Tye Hill, he has a lot of speed and could be helpful in a lot of situations. Blitz packages, special teams in case a guy breaks loose he has recovery speed. But this roster has a lot of fresh guys and talent so it will work if we stay healthy.
he was definately the next CB if they keep one more than I picked
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Then he caught on.
And intercepted a pass.
And don’t give that “it fell right into his hands” stuff another round. Wiliams has shown us that a ball can fall right into your hands and still not be caught. Give the man some credit.
by fanoftheunderdogs on Sep 1, 2010 5:55 PM CDT up reply actions
but it did "fall right into his hands"
the credit for that play goes to bad play on QB/WR. Mouton gets credit for being there.
I didn't knock him for the interception.
It was a good one, I just know he gets caught on a lot.
Williams has not shown "that a ball can fall right into your hands and still not be caught"
He has not muffed anything.
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Williams dislocated his freakin shoulder on the play and came back...
so i dont call that a muff..
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by Bonafidebrother on Sep 2, 2010 7:17 AM CDT up reply actions
fanoftheunderdogs stated that " Wiliams has shown us that a ball can fall right into your hands and still not be caught"
That is not an accurate statement.
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That would make it accurate!
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Yeah, I meant P Williams.
I forgot there are two Williams on the team.
by fanoftheunderdogs on Sep 2, 2010 10:47 PM CDT up reply actions
Honestly...
I like Hill more than Mouton! Hill was always around the ball!
I like most of this
But for the 6 DE’s. You loco. Ball and Eric B won’t both make this team.
I am also not so sure that Rusty isn’t released and we end up keeping 2 active QB’s. I think Rusty would clear waivers.
Is it strange that I wish we still had Ben Hartsock?
Before you all go crazy about my Rusty comment
Keep in mind every team has a young QB that they are in love with, and before the draft nobody knew who Rusty was.
Is it strange that I wish we still had Ben Hartsock?
I agree with you
What has he shown us to prove he is worthy of a roster spot or for anyone else to want him?
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So... you know this how?
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by fanoftheunderdogs on Sep 1, 2010 5:56 PM CDT up reply actions
Hey I agree.
I basically gave him the spot because he won’t count against the roster on game days unless he’s needed in an emergency.
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I think...
Rusty will end up on Practice squad if he doesn’t make the roster.
I still think Brock finds a way to make the roster
I know he’s old-ish, but there’s just something about keeping a vet DE around that I think will give us a bit more confidence in the line.
10. 28. 18. Let the season begin.
by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Sep 1, 2010 3:39 PM CDT reply actions
he just feels like a guy they brought into camp to increase the level of competition
but he’s definitely near the top of the list of guys I could miss on.
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There will be
4 tight ends. If Stevens goes down, they have no blocking TE. They will keep Sean Ryan. I think Raheem Brock makes more since than Bahktiari. Raheem makes a better swing DE/DT than Ball or Bahktiari. We all like Rolle, but he is a practice squad player at this point. He was a 6th round pick for a reason. Nickey sticks one more year.
Yeah I agree that somebody,
and probably Ryan, will probably make it as a 4th TE. I just don’t think it’s worth losing some a roster spot over. Just my opinion on that one…
Still not buying on Brock though. I think they like what Ball and Erick B can do in this scheme.
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Who are the 4 muppets that voted F?
Maybe they thought F was for Fantastic. :P
by fanoftheunderdogs on Sep 1, 2010 5:51 PM CDT reply actions
Tye Hill/Sean Ryan
I think both make this team. Blount over Gado. I think Bahktiari gets trimmed along with Rolle who slips to the practice squad because other NFL teams watch film too. Otherwise there is not much to nitpick with the list.
Blount's happy fists may hold him back a little...
But I doubt it.
by fanoftheunderdogs on Sep 1, 2010 5:57 PM CDT up reply actions
I hope the decisions made
are what is best for the team and not what is best for the head Coach and GM’s ego. Too many times we have held on to players that had no business being drafted where they were just because the front office didn’t want to admit a mistake. I want these late round picks to work, but not at the risk of losses. I would rather keep a few veterans and risk losing low draft picks to waivers, i.e. Smith, Johnson, and Rolle.
Football is about chemistry...
And, you don’t build chemistry by not developing players together. That is why draft picks are so important and why the best teams build through the draft. If Smith were to be picked up by someone else, who will be the backup QB next year when Collins leaves? Chris Simms? I would rather keep Smith around to develop so that he’ll be ready to at least compete for the backup job next year.
What happens when Chris Hope either retires or leaves via free agency? Is Nickey going to step in? Do we NOT develop Johnson/Rolle to take over his spot in the next couple of years?
And, just because you are a low draft pick doesn’t mean you can’t contribute or develop into a great player (Cortland Finnegan). I can’t see letting a player go or even have the chance of him going when all you have seen is limited action in some preseason games and a few practices. What was the point in drafting those guys?
by shawneriksmith on Sep 2, 2010 9:11 AM CDT up reply actions
You really think
Smith will be ready to step in next year if VY pulls a hammy? Who really cares who is the backup next year, until next year. There will be plenty of veteran backups available as always. You really think Rolle can be a capeable safety? He is too slow, and probably isn’t going to be a great special teamer. He shouldn’t take away a position from Nickey, who like him or not, makes an impact on special teams. My post above was more referring to players like Chris Henry who never should have taken a roster spot away from anyone who could contribute on special teams. Last year keeping Paul Williams and cutting any vet who could return punts/kickoffs possibly cost us 2 games. Practice team is where to develop 3 year projects.

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