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Tennessee Titans Morning Links: When 50-50 Isn't Really 50-50 Edition

Jeff Fisher says the team isn't ready for the regular season yet... wonder who that falls on?

Tennessee_titans_30x21 We all know the Titans want Damian Williams to win the return job, but it's been Mark Mariani who looks like the more natural and more explosive option so far. With that in mind, the Titans will flip-flop the return order from last game so that Mariani gets the chances in the first half, and Damian Williams gets the return opportunities in the second half. I hope this will also give Williams a shot to concentrate on the WR position earlier in the game when the first and second teams play more since Williams still has the better chance to contribute there as of now.

Tennessee_titans_30x21 Without a doubt the defensive line has shown us the biggest positive gap between expectation and performance this preseason. A unit that carried a lot of question marks after losing two cornerstone names over the last two years now looks like the deepest and most reliable group on the defense. That's a VERY good thing for any defense that's going to play for Jeff Fisher.

Tennessee_titans_30x21 Looking forward to watching Drew Bees sling it all over the field for at least a series or two tomorrow? Well bad news for you: Brees is one of several ring-toting Saints veterans who won't play a single snap in the final preseason tilt. A lot of this expected just because it's the final preseason game, but the Saints are also very mindful of the fact that they open the season Next Thursday against the Vikings, rather than next Sunday like most of the league.

Tennessee_titans_30x21 While the Saints are going to cruise through Thursday night, the Titans are playing many of their starters for the majority of the first half. Fisher is saying he doesn't view this group as ready for the regular season, but this smells like punishment for mailing it in last week to me.

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Tennessee_titans_30x21 Andrew Lawrence previewed the AFC South for SI.com, and he tabs us for 10-6 behind another huge year from CJ2K and an improved passing game.

Tennessee_titans_30x21 Chris Simms guesses he has a 50-50 chance at making the roster, which is 49.9% more of a chance than I give him.

Tennessee_titans_30x21 Chris Johnson was asked about Reggie Bush, who most folks expected to do what CJ2K does, and he was refreshingly honest about the league's highest profile 3rd down back and return man:

"He is all right, he is an exciting player," Johnson said. "I watch him on TV. He is an OK guy."

Tennessee_titans_30x21 If they Titans are interested in keeping a veteran running back like Samkon Gado on the 53 man roster, might they take a look at the recently cut Derrick Ward? Ward had some very good years in the rotation in New York before disappointing wildly in Tampa last season and this off-season.

Tennessee_titans_30x21 Jeff Fisher says David Thornton is 'making progress'. Thornton must be working on building a ship in a bottle because I haven't heard anything that makes it sound like Thornton has even a vague chance of returning to full-time duty. I'm still predicting that the vet stays on the PUP list and is released mid-season once that list expires. If DT was a rookie or first year guy he would have been cut loose yesterday.

Tennessee_titans_30x21 An idiot defensive lineman for the Dolphins lost his possibly-$50K earring on the practice field. Best part his, he's not a guy who should be dropping that kind of coin on jewelry since he's only getting a max of $2.565 million on a 4 year contract from '08. No wonder he freaked out about it. The lesson: buy CZ if you can't afford the real thing.

Tennessee_titans_30x21 Want an even dumber story than that? Head & Shoulders got famous insurance company Lords of London to draw up a $1 million insurance policy on Troy Polamalu's hair. You read that right. Let us never describe NFL players as 'warriors' ever again.

Tennessee_titans_30x21 NFL officials are considering making lower body pads mandatory in 2011. I'm sure Colts fans are already crying over this rule and saying that it's aimed directly at their team.


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The Derrick Ward suggestion is a very good one

In fact, he is better than Ringer.

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by Jimmy on Sep 1, 2010 9:44 AM CDT reply actions  

Who is Derrick Ward?

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by gramsey712 on Sep 1, 2010 9:48 AM CDT up reply actions  

It doesn't matter who the backup is anyway

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by gramsey712 on Sep 1, 2010 9:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

If CJ gets hurt, we are done.

Unless we can lure Barry Sanders out of retirement.

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by gramsey712 on Sep 1, 2010 10:49 AM CDT up reply actions  

Maurice Clarett is out of jail

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by Jimmy on Sep 1, 2010 11:04 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, but he is an Omaha Nighthawk.

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by gramsey712 on Sep 1, 2010 11:12 AM CDT up reply actions  

I think he's not a good option really.

He really showed he wasn’t as good as people thought he was.

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All you got to do is groove

by BonzosMontreaux on Sep 1, 2010 9:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

for the Bucs?

I’d love to see what he could do behind our O-line provided he’s not a walking attitude problem.

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by August West on Sep 1, 2010 10:14 AM CDT up reply actions  

See I don't think the Bucs O-Line was his only problem.

But, as always, i’d love to be proven wrong if it benefits the Titans.

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by BonzosMontreaux on Sep 1, 2010 10:21 AM CDT up reply actions  

I think he would be a great addition but i dont think he wants to be a backup....hence the reason he left the Giants..

In TN, he would be stuck behind CJ and Ringer….possibly Blount…I think he wants to be a number 1.

"He is fast, but what I like about him is he looks like one of those track guys that actually knows how to run the ball and has good vision and patience. He is not just running at top speed. He knows when to use his speed, and he has some power and toughness, too.'' Barry Sanders about CJ2K
Dwight Howard >The Justice League of America

by Bonafidebrother on Sep 1, 2010 10:24 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah

but getting cut can do a lot to those wishes

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by Jimmy on Sep 1, 2010 10:40 AM CDT up reply actions  

Hell with Ward...

Ward hasn’t really did anything and ringer hasn’t even had the chance for someone to say Ward is better! Get Ringer some real on the field time before you start suggesting that someone is better this is why we are always losing good talent. You have to give guys the opportunity.

by datboybevans on Sep 1, 2010 1:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

Good news & bad news...

Good news is McCourty had a good game against the Panthers, so it looks like he’s nailed down his corner spot. The bad news is our "return woes " continue because Williams is not the answer.

by titansfan4ever on Sep 1, 2010 11:12 AM CDT reply actions  

But Mariani is

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by Jimmy on Sep 1, 2010 11:15 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'm holding my thoughts on Williams returning...

untill after this last game. I think it’ll be good to see if he does any better against the 2nd and 3rd string. Which I know Mariani has done well against the 1st string, but his longest yards have came from the 2nd and 3rd teams. However, I could be wrong about that.

by J3G77 on Sep 1, 2010 12:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

I am not giving up on DWill yet.

He will be a better returner than Mariani.

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by gramsey712 on Sep 1, 2010 12:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

What has Mariani done?

Other than one long return against dudes who will be bagging groceries next week (h/t ADub).

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by gramsey712 on Sep 1, 2010 12:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Then maybe we should start Kerry Collins.

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by gramsey712 on Sep 1, 2010 12:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

you've found the secret

Kerry Collins for kick returns….yes!!!!11

by rothbard on Sep 1, 2010 12:21 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Just think, grams....

of all the grocery baggers feelings you’ve hurt.

by titansfan4ever on Sep 1, 2010 12:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

He might be

but for now Mariani has been more consistent, and after last year consistency is what shall be rewarded.

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by Jimmy on Sep 1, 2010 12:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

this

catching ball >> all

by rothbard on Sep 1, 2010 12:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

Has Williams not caught a ball?

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by gramsey712 on Sep 1, 2010 12:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

I agree then.

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by gramsey712 on Sep 1, 2010 12:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Did you see the punt

that went for 76 the other night?

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by Jimmy on Sep 1, 2010 12:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

And that is enough to boot him?

BRING BACK KAEVERSHASIARN!

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by gramsey712 on Sep 1, 2010 12:19 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

who's booting him?

not being the returner != booted

by rothbard on Sep 1, 2010 12:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

He does

And that was my fault. I was watching the game with the inlaws and screamed TUCK THE BALL DAMIAN and boom it was on the turf. Everybody in the room threw stuff at me.

Sorry guys.

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by gramsey712 on Sep 1, 2010 12:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yall crazy!

He fumbles because he shoulder got dislocated do any of you watch the conferences? WOW! Plus he came back and played wideout and finished the game up, that says tons for what kind of player he is! He has toughness and the ability to bounce back from minor set backs.

by datboybevans on Sep 1, 2010 1:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

No fumble if he was not waving the ball around.

I’m not saying he sucks, but he did fumble and Mariani didn’t.

by rothbard on Sep 1, 2010 3:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

He actually had it tucked when he was hit

Dude just put a helmet right on the ball.

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by gramsey712 on Sep 1, 2010 3:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

Let a guy....

Knock your shoulder out of socket and see if you can hold onto anything after that!

by datboybevans on Sep 1, 2010 3:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

why not?

its not like dislocated shoulder = disconnected muscles and nerves

by rothbard on Sep 1, 2010 7:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

Your boy VUNCE has coughed it up numerous times this preseason.

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by gramsey712 on Sep 1, 2010 12:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

So it's OK for a quarterback to fumble..........

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by gramsey712 on Sep 1, 2010 12:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

No...

but a QB gets hit a gazillion more times than a punt returner does.

by titansfan4ever on Sep 1, 2010 12:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

Unless he fumbles on a pump fake.....

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by gramsey712 on Sep 1, 2010 12:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think this is my fault

I DID NOT MEAN FOR THIS TO HAPPEN!!!!

I am not sure how it did though. I did not say Vince Young/Kerry Collins 3 times into the mirror.

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by gramsey712 on Sep 1, 2010 12:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

Win.

Bloody Mary ref FTW.

by Titan9 on Sep 1, 2010 1:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

I am not watching that again.

You can’t make me.

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by gramsey712 on Sep 1, 2010 12:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

Okay...So....

Mariani will get his chance against the Saints…if he does better than Williams….he’s our guy…can everybody agree on that?

by titansfan4ever on Sep 1, 2010 1:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

No, because Jeff Fisher does not use the preseason like everybody else

The Saints aren’t gonna play their best players at all. They have a game in one week.

This is another thing that Fisher does that drives me crazy. Why does he focus so heavily on a game that the other team is not gonna play their starters?

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by gramsey712 on Sep 1, 2010 1:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

I wouldn't make an argument for Kerry over Vince that hinges on sensless fumbles

unless you count Vince’s dumb luck with footballs bouncing back to him as a skill…

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by August West on Sep 1, 2010 1:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

They are equally bad at protecting the football.

Both cough up the ball at a rate of roughly ~.71 times a game. The difference is that Vince recovers half of his. Kerry recovers 25%.

That is to say that in 53% of all his games, Kerry will turn the ball over by fumbling. Vince only does it in 36% of all his games.

by SuperHorn on Sep 1, 2010 1:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

But would is shoulder have been dislocated

if he was running with the ball tucked instead of waving it around?

by rothbard on Sep 1, 2010 3:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

How does the way he was holding the ball...

Have to do with his shoulder? Have you even played football before? No one is going to be elusive if they are running stiff! We want a return man that is going to break for the long one so he is going to have to go with his instincts. People critisize way too much on nonsense! Look a Reggie Bush he waves the ball too when trying to fake the defense that’s is how you make moves!

by datboybevans on Sep 1, 2010 3:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah!

Reggie Bush is awesome!

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by gramsey712 on Sep 1, 2010 3:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

lol, seriously?

He got his shoulder dislocated by getting nailed with his arm outstretched with the ball in his hand. aka not the proper way to run with the ball

by rothbard on Sep 1, 2010 3:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

You don't always know when your...

going to get hit. He’s fighting for field position not running behind the offensive line. It happens it’s not something you hold against a return man. If he muffs the ball or doesn’t call fair catch when he should something of that caliber is worth complaining about.

by datboybevans on Sep 1, 2010 3:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

yes, you do hold it against the return man

his first and for foremost priority is to maintain possession of the football

by rothbard on Sep 1, 2010 7:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yep. ^This

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by Jimmy on Sep 1, 2010 12:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm not giving up on him either.

I think he’ll only get better. Both he and Mariani will.

by J3G77 on Sep 1, 2010 12:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm not giving up on him as a receiver...

I’m just not sure he’s our answer to our return problems.

by titansfan4ever on Sep 1, 2010 12:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

Who can be sure anybody is the answer to our return problems?

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by gramsey712 on Sep 1, 2010 12:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well somebody damn well better be!!!

You can’t tell me that on this whole team, with all that talent, there’s not one guy who can A.-Catch the ball….B.-Gain some kind of positive yardage….and C.-Hold on to the ball!!!!

by titansfan4ever on Sep 1, 2010 12:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

Damian Williams.

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by gramsey712 on Sep 1, 2010 1:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

You know, talking to you is like talking to my wife...

I never get anywhere and I always end up shaking my head.

by titansfan4ever on Sep 1, 2010 1:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

It was pretty nice how that circled back around.

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by gramsey712 on Sep 1, 2010 1:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

Answer to A,B, & C

CJ2K can do all of that. But then we end up with:
A. An exhausted offensive weapon
B. An INJURED offensive weapon

Adrian Peterson still thinks he's the best running back in the NFL. That's funny, Fumble Fingers.

by MikeGriffFan27 on Sep 1, 2010 9:36 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Nothings wrong with Williams...

they got a good hit on him, it happens! He still has a great return average as does Mariani it’s good to have two good return options and you can swap them in an out like a lot of teams do! Saints and Bears are very successful at the return game and they are constantly swapping return guys.

by datboybevans on Sep 1, 2010 1:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

TRU DAT

Well….except with the whole Mike Rivera thing.

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by Jimmy on Sep 1, 2010 11:18 AM CDT up reply actions  

C'mon dude...

out of 53 or whatever…one wrong is not that bad.

by titansfan4ever on Sep 1, 2010 11:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

One so far

It isn’t over yet. It is kinda bad to miss on one of those first 5. I guess that is why I am in financial aid and not NFL player personnel. Yep, pretty sure that is the only reason..

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by Jimmy on Sep 1, 2010 11:27 AM CDT up reply actions  

I was looking at prop bets this morning.

Here’s some interesting one’s that are Titans related:

O/U on Vince’s Passing Yards: 2,800 yards
O/U on CJ’s Rushing Yards: 1,500 yards
O/U on Britt’s Receiving Yards: 700 yards (highest O/U of our receivers)
O/U on CJ’s Rushing TDs: 14.5 (more than last year)

It’s also worth noting that all of these bets are -115 (ie. you have to bet $1.15 to win $1.00). The exception is Vince’s prop bet. It’s even money for less than 2,800 yards and -130 for more than 2,800. That generally means that the betting public has been betting the over.

*Note that the link is to a betting website. Depending on your workplace that may be NSFW.

by SuperHorn on Sep 1, 2010 11:27 AM CDT reply actions  

For entertainment purposes only

Of course

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by Jimmy on Sep 1, 2010 11:28 AM CDT up reply actions  

Of course.

One more thing. The AFC South is the favorite to have the best division winning percentage out of all divisions in the NFL.

by SuperHorn on Sep 1, 2010 11:31 AM CDT up reply actions  

On that note

Im not sure on VY
Over on CJs
Britt is a toss up
Under on CJs rushing TDs since they wont use him in goal line formations unless he is a decoy

for entertainment purposes…..

by Dagger22 on Sep 1, 2010 6:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

Mariani has earned it

He deserves a chance at the return job and even more opportunities in the slot with the first/second teams. I still like Damian Williams but you have to give Mariani a shot because he has looked so solid all preseason.

Ward is interesting but the Bucs let him go mainly for his attitude…so, I doubt Fisher would be willing to pull the trigger with him. Besides, we have CJ, two talented young RBs, and a solid vet. If Ward couldn’t make it on the Bucs, why do we think he should be on the Titans?

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