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Over-trained Athlete Syndrome Rant


Time to rant....Listening to Houston talk radio for my commute to and from work has me all worked up.

Star-divide

On Cushing....

First it was a tumor and that he is afraid that he might die.  After that excuse didn't work.  He then he flew around the country trying to find a doctor, any doctor, to claim that hCG is produced naturally in the body at the levels that he tested positive for.  That didn't happen either.

Now it is Over-trained athlete syndrome.  Right.

Nevermind those words have never been strung together before his dumb butt did.

But out of all the athletes that ever been tested.  All the athletes that played football, baseball, basketball, soccer, weightlifting, boxing, track, cycling, tennis, all the Olympics sports, etc, etc, etc.....out of all those thousands and thousands of high level athletes, not one, not a single one as ever trained as hard as Cushing.

Only Brian Cushing has ever trained so hard to pass this magical threshold that the body the male body then produces hCG.  And since he is the first ever athlete to train this hard, no doctor was ever aware of this syndrome until Brian Cushing and his idiot Texan/Jersey trainers told them about it.

And we should just ignore the fact that he is a Jersey Juice head that has had steriod rumors follow him his whole football career.

On Goodell

Roger, you just made a mockery of the appeals process.  Cushing was flagged a year ago.  He went through all the levels of appeals that are allowed in the agreement between the Players Union and the Owners/League.  He lost all of them. 

Yet, if an owner asks for an extra special appeal process, it is granted. 

If a player asks for that, they are told no. 

How is that legal, let alone fair?

During the star-caps case, one of the NFL arguments was that the players used all their appeals and the court case was circumventing the agreement the players union and nfl made.

But when an owner wants an extra special, pretty-please appeal, it is granted.

What bullshit.

Every player should now get a chance for his owner to come up with some bogus excuse and another chance at the ruling over-turned. 

If McGrath loses the appeal on his case, then Bud Adams should get to have another chance beyond what is agreed upon in the CBA.

Goodell just made a mockery of every agreement in the CBA.

On Texan fans...

You are all a bunch of morons.  I can't count how many people, ever since this whole thing was announced months ago, call into sports talk radio defending this guy. 

Every argument defending him defies logic.  I gotta believe these idiots have an IQ someone just south of a dead opossum.  

In addition to being complete homers that can't use basic logic and reasoning, you don't understand statistical projection.  Everytime someone from Football Outsiders comes on the radio, afterwards every caller says the same thing.  "If these nerds could write a book, then so could I".  "These dorks don't know anything about football." "I can't believe these math dorks get paid for sprouting off their nonesense."  Of course, the texan fans are mad because they weren't projected to win the division, which is what they think will happen each year.

Which brings me to the next trait of Texan fans.  They have a severe inferiority complex.  They want nothing more than to be better than their older brother (the titans).  They act like they won the super bowl after their 2 wins against the titans the last 2 seasons.  You would have thought it was the culmination of a 19-0 season after each of those 2 wins.  And what about all those prime-time losses to VY and the Titans?  More crying and whining than I have ever heard.

/rant

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What is better than over-trained athlete syndrome?
taking my talents to south beach syndrome?
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george bush was misunderestimated syndrome
9 votes
joel mchale chicken tetrazzini syndrome
3 votes
sarah palin refudiate syndrome
10 votes

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The idea of a person from Tennessee mocking the IQ of ANYONE is hilarious.

Since you already KNOW what happened with Cushing, there is little point to arguing with you. However, when the OWNER of ANY NFL team (other than Al Davis) puts their reputation on the line for a player, you have to think that they have done their due diligence.

As for the appeals process being a mockery, WAKE UP GENIUS. IT ALREADY IS. The “appeals” process consists of Roger Goodell having the final say. So ONE man is judge, jury and executioner. The process needs to be revised.

Shold Cush serve his suspension? Yes. He tested positive for a banned substance. Until it is conclusively proven that it occured naturally, you have to assume that it did not. However, there are a number of doctors, INCLUDING NFL DOCTORS who have real concerns about the methodology and veracity of the tests used by the NFL.

So before you calling fans of other teams idiots, maybe you should get off the computer, wipe the cheetoh stains of your gelatinous belly, push the mountainn dew cans out the way, ooze your fat ass back up the steps of your mom’s basement, and roll to the bathroom where you can take a good hard look in the mirror.

Jackass.

"An open mind is like a fortress with it's gates unbarred and unguarded."

What happens when an unstoppable force meets three defensive players? THIS: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpWqMqrZwTU

by TexansForever on Aug 10, 2010 8:49 AM CDT reply actions  

I apoogize in advance to the reasonable Titans fans, not aimed at them.

"An open mind is like a fortress with it's gates unbarred and unguarded."

What happens when an unstoppable force meets three defensive players? THIS: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpWqMqrZwTU

by TexansForever on Aug 10, 2010 8:49 AM CDT up reply actions  

(zackmann lives in Houston)

Official MCM Hater!

"If anyone asks you, you fixed my television. Now go!"

by gramsey712 on Aug 10, 2010 8:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

He is a Tennesseean by affiliation.

"An open mind is like a fortress with it's gates unbarred and unguarded."

What happens when an unstoppable force meets three defensive players? THIS: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpWqMqrZwTU

by TexansForever on Aug 10, 2010 8:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

So are you just blindly defending all the Texan fans who are defending Cushing?

Is it OK for a guy to use cancer as an excuse when he gets caught using steroids?

Official MCM Hater!

"If anyone asks you, you fixed my television. Now go!"

by gramsey712 on Aug 10, 2010 9:09 AM CDT up reply actions  

No. I just said that he should serve the suspension.

I am saying that there are legitimate medical reasons that he could have tested positive. There are many doctors, including some doctors who work for the NFL who support Cushings version of events or at least the possibility of that version of events.

So are you suprised that many Texans fans would support Cushing when there are doctors backing up his version of events? And to call them idiots because they are just repeating what Doctors have said is ludicrous.

If your son or daughter tested positive for a baned substance and was fired from their job but then they came to you with a doctor who said, “Look, the levels of drugs in your kids tests were extremely low to the point of potentially occuring naturally and here is the science that backs it up. I can’t prove they didn’t do it, but in my medical opinion there is a real possibility of this being a naturally occuring incident.”

Would you write it off, or would you say, “Ok, let’s explore this some more and see if we can prove it one way or the other.” ?

It annoys ne that he calls people idiots who are not Doctors and are just repeating what people who are allegedly highly specialized physicians have said.

Call the DOCTORS the idiots if you have the balls. THEY are making the argument, the fans are just repeating it.

"An open mind is like a fortress with it's gates unbarred and unguarded."

What happens when an unstoppable force meets three defensive players? THIS: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpWqMqrZwTU

by TexansForever on Aug 10, 2010 9:37 AM CDT up reply actions  

And just to reiterate, CUSHING SHOULD SERVE THE SUSPENSION.

TThe NFL has to have a NO TOLERANCE approach and so you should be suspended if you test positive

However, if you are going to suspend positive tests you need to have accurate testing. The NFL should be reviewing their testing to make sure that it at least meets the standard of clinical testing. Which in this case, it DOES NOT.

The NFL excuse is that the definitive testing is too expensive……REALLY?

The NFL needs to do the right thing and fix the testing process as well as establishing an independent review comittee for appeals.

"An open mind is like a fortress with it's gates unbarred and unguarded."

What happens when an unstoppable force meets three defensive players? THIS: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpWqMqrZwTU

by TexansForever on Aug 10, 2010 9:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

"I am saying that there are legitimate medical reasons that he could have tested positive"

I agree with that.

But that is not the case with Cushing. If it was, he would have come out with the exact reason as soon as he found out he tested positive. Not use cancer as an excuse and then keep making up new things when the other one fails.

I didn’t really care about it until he dropped the cancer bomb. I have been touched way too closely by cancer for some overpaid piece of shit who was obviously cheating to actually use that as an excuse. And anyone who defends him for that is a piece of shit as well. Take off your Texan glasses for a second and think about that.

He cheated. Got caught. And actually used cancer to try to get sympathy. That is a quality human being right there.

And we have a cheater on our team as well. Used steroids. Got busted. You know what he did? Admitted it. And he is still a cheater. If Cushing had just admitted what he did, this would all be over by now.

Official MCM Hater!

"If anyone asks you, you fixed my television. Now go!"

by gramsey712 on Aug 10, 2010 9:56 AM CDT up reply actions  

Agree with you on the Cancer thing. I have lost close family members to it and it scares the hell out of me. Hate that disease with a passion.

"An open mind is like a fortress with it's gates unbarred and unguarded."

What happens when an unstoppable force meets three defensive players? THIS: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpWqMqrZwTU

by TexansForever on Aug 10, 2010 9:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

So do you personally believe Cushing?

I guess that would end this whole argument.

Official MCM Hater!

"If anyone asks you, you fixed my television. Now go!"

by gramsey712 on Aug 10, 2010 10:06 AM CDT up reply actions  

I don't know.

I am inclined to WANT to believe him. But until something happens to prove his innocence, I have to assume that he got HCG in his system from a non-natural source.

So I would say I LEAN toward NOT believing him, but reserve the right to review the evidence once Goodell speaks publicly about the discussion he had with McNair.

The other thing is that McNair is an EXTREMELY conservative owner. He doesn’t get involved, doesn’t make waves, isn’t flashy and has made a point of staying away from contraversy.

For him to get involved like this is just….odd. He has never done anything like this before and so it makes me think we don’t know the whole story.

He is a hardcore businessman and doesn’t risk his reputation…..ever. So again, it is just a wierd situation.

"An open mind is like a fortress with it's gates unbarred and unguarded."

What happens when an unstoppable force meets three defensive players? THIS: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpWqMqrZwTU

by TexansForever on Aug 10, 2010 10:12 AM CDT up reply actions  

So if I have this right

he should serve the suspension, even though you think he didn’t do anything wrong. That’s like saying “Well, yeah, I think he should serve those 15 years in prison, but I just don’t think there is enough evidence to say he committed the crime.”

What do we do if somehow Colt McCoy ends up on an NFL team starting against Vince Young?

by inVINCEable on Aug 10, 2010 10:13 AM CDT up reply actions  

No, you don't have it right.

Much like the criminal justice system, if the evidence says you broke the law, you should pay the penalty. However, much like crime scene analysis, if testing is not at the best standards, you can have tainted evidence.

So the NFL needs to fix and review the testing process to ensure it is up to clinical standards. Players deserve that much.

But until they do that, the only thing we have to go by is the current testing standards, and so we have to use those to make our decisions.

You have to make a decision on the best available evidence, even if the the evidence available isn’t the best.

"An open mind is like a fortress with it's gates unbarred and unguarded."

What happens when an unstoppable force meets three defensive players? THIS: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpWqMqrZwTU

by TexansForever on Aug 10, 2010 10:20 AM CDT up reply actions  

You'd make a good prosecution lawyer

“Beyond a reasonable doubt doesn’t mean 100% evidence, just that based on the information we DO have, there are few doubts of the guilt of the offender”

My real problem comes with the expressed frustration that we can’t accept his over-trained hypothesis as a possibility. It’s as if I tested positive for drugs at my job and then demanded that I not be fired or “slandered” until we run scientific studies to find out if my body unlike everyone else in the known world, naturally creates THC.

I understand that the remote possibility of him being correct exists, however unlikely. In your own words though, we all have to assume he is NOT telling the truth on this one. Talk about system reform all you would like, but don’t simultaneously defend and exonerate the guy. He is or is not guilty. He can’t be both.

What do we do if somehow Colt McCoy ends up on an NFL team starting against Vince Young?

by inVINCEable on Aug 10, 2010 3:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

It's a fine distinction. I'm not really trying to defend Cushing, I'm trying to attack the process.

The NFL, according to multiple experts who testified to the league, does not use the correct standard of testing for this. That is a real problem if it is true. Every player, not just Brian Cushing, deserves the benefit of the best available testing if the laternative is a suspension.

Again, the evidence currently points to him using roids and so you HAVE TO SUSPEND HIM based on that evidence. But if other evidence comes to light that proves he is innocent, then you have to rescind that suspension.

"An open mind is like a fortress with it's gates unbarred and unguarded."

What happens when an unstoppable force meets three defensive players? THIS: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpWqMqrZwTU

by TexansForever on Aug 10, 2010 3:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

watch it now

one of the smartest men in the political arena is from tennessee.
yes he’s a democrat and yes you’ll all hate me for sayin it but Al Gore is
an extremely intelligent man.
Besides the only reason tennessee people get a bad rep is cuz they have too many dumb alabama friends and relatives.

How could anyone be a Jaguars fan???
Also, Anyone who thinks Tim Teabag can play running back in the NFL clearly didn't see his 40 yrd or 3 cone time...

by RareColoradoTitanFan on Aug 10, 2010 4:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

No but seriously

What do we do if somehow Colt McCoy ends up on an NFL team starting against Vince Young?

by inVINCEable on Aug 11, 2010 7:17 AM CDT up reply actions  

It's a wide brush to paint with.

Two of my best friend live in Nashville. In Zackmann’s case, the stereotype was useful in responding to him, but certainly doesn’t apply to the entire population of the state.

"An open mind is like a fortress with it's gates unbarred and unguarded."

What happens when an unstoppable force meets three defensive players? THIS: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpWqMqrZwTU

by TexansForever on Aug 11, 2010 8:56 AM CDT up reply actions  

zackmann....you made my day.

I loved your fanpost, and I couldn’t agree with you more. And don’t pay attention to TexansForever…he really IS a good guy…just a little defensive when it comes to his Texans, which you can understand, right? The fact of the matter is that the only thing that’s over-worked with Brian Cushing is his tiny little p-brain. And the only reason the fans in H-town are defending him is because they know that their defense sucks without him. But Brian, I have comend you for your effort…in the WHOLE history of the NFL….NOBODY has tried sooooooooo hard to get a suspension over-turned. Better luck next time.

by titansfan4ever on Aug 10, 2010 9:55 AM CDT reply actions  

lol, what's up man,

I actually think the defense (run defense anyway) is going to be ok without Cushing. A few guys have shown improvement over last year. Connor Barwin playing opposite Mario should be good this year. He actually led all rookie 4-3 defensive ends in sakcs last year interestingly enough.

Pollard has brought some intensity to the D and the d-line rotation looks pretty good finally.

The cornerbacks remain an area of concern, but I think they will be better than people expect.

No Cushing means we won’t be at our best. But the D should be good enough without him to help the offense win some games.

"An open mind is like a fortress with it's gates unbarred and unguarded."

What happens when an unstoppable force meets three defensive players? THIS: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpWqMqrZwTU

by TexansForever on Aug 10, 2010 10:08 AM CDT up reply actions  

Well, for ya'lls sake....

I hope you’re right. Except when you play us…then, I hope you’re wrong….:-)

by titansfan4ever on Aug 10, 2010 11:47 AM CDT up reply actions  

ive literally no idea who these guys are

but texan, you know most players “look good in camp” and they “show promise for the season”
all you guys have is really mario williams and everyone else is, Im sorry NFL-average. or just plain scrubs.

But no offense even tho i know you’ll take it anyways

How could anyone be a Jaguars fan???
Also, Anyone who thinks Tim Teabag can play running back in the NFL clearly didn't see his 40 yrd or 3 cone time...

by RareColoradoTitanFan on Aug 10, 2010 4:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

Those scrubs were the #4 defense in the nfl over the last 13 games of the season last year.

But hey, we will know soon enough right?

"An open mind is like a fortress with it's gates unbarred and unguarded."

What happens when an unstoppable force meets three defensive players? THIS: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpWqMqrZwTU

by TexansForever on Aug 11, 2010 8:04 AM CDT up reply actions  

And no I don't take offense.

"An open mind is like a fortress with it's gates unbarred and unguarded."

What happens when an unstoppable force meets three defensive players? THIS: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpWqMqrZwTU

by TexansForever on Aug 11, 2010 8:57 AM CDT up reply actions  

maybe but 9-7 speaks for itself`

how great could they be?
And in anticipation of the two most common arguments here:
No, I could not put on the uniform and do a better job than them
and yes the Titans defense was waay worse. Got it.
And i dont wanna be crushing ur optimism as a fan before the year even starts im just sayin lets not go around pretending anyone is scared of the vaunted texans defense.

How could anyone be a Jaguars fan???
Also, Anyone who thinks Tim Teabag can play running back in the NFL clearly didn't see his 40 yrd or 3 cone time...

by RareColoradoTitanFan on Aug 12, 2010 7:21 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'm certainly not saying anyone is trembling at the prospect of the Texans D.

And I agree…they should have been better than 9-7.

The reality is the defense put the offense into position to win another three games at least with stops and turnovers, but the offense couldn’t get it done….well….Kris Brown couldn’t get it done anyway.

But whatever, we will know soon enough if they will be good or not. So ready for the season.

"An open mind is like a fortress with it's gates unbarred and unguarded."

What happens when an unstoppable force meets three defensive players? THIS: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpWqMqrZwTU

by TexansForever on Aug 12, 2010 9:01 AM CDT up reply actions  

Do you think Matt Schaub is capable of carrying a team through the playoffs?

His gross totals speak for themselves last season. It was a remarkable year. But, I hate to use the cliche, he just doesn’t strike me as a “winner”. Put another way, do you feel comfortable with the ball in his hands, late in the game, when you need a game winning drive?

by SuperHorn on Aug 12, 2010 9:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

In his first two years I would have said no.

Right now, I am very comfortable with the ball in Schaub’s hands.

He has improved every year as a quarterback and last year put the Texans in position to win or tie two or three more games but then our kicker, Kris Brown, shanked what should have been easy field goals for him.

You can argue it a few different ways but it is our Kicker that contibuted the most to us not making the playoffs in my opinion. If he hits those three field goals that’s two wins and an overtime. So you are 11-5 at least.

But back to your question, yes, I think Schaub continues to make strides. The most significant indicator to me is that each year more and more of the players on the Texans come out and say that Matt is really taking leadership of the offense and that they completely trust his ability to take them the distance.

While few players would be openly critical of their QB, they also would not be vocally supportive of him if he wasn’t doing the leadership thing. Most would just not say anything.

You mention that Matt doesn’t strike you as a “winner”. and that is a a perception that even alot of us have. I think that is because he is not a real vocal guy, not fiery passionate. He is more of the cool and calm type of mindset. However, if you go back and look at his fourth quarter play, he does a great job. When your kicker fails to finish though, what do you do?

"An open mind is like a fortress with it's gates unbarred and unguarded."

What happens when an unstoppable force meets three defensive players? THIS: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpWqMqrZwTU

by TexansForever on Aug 12, 2010 11:25 AM CDT up reply actions  

It's a hard thing to distinguish.

Unfortunately for ya’ll, I don’t think there’s anyway you’ll know until/if you get to the playoffs.

Peyton Manning may be one of the best quarterbacks in NFL history in the 4th quarter of regular season games. But, put him in a pressure playoff situation, and there’s plenty of other quarterback’s I’d take ahead of him.

by SuperHorn on Aug 12, 2010 1:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

I agree with you 100% there.

Of course I hope that this is the year we find out, but given our schedule (and yours) it will be a challenging year. If we want to know what the Texans are made of, this is the schedule to find out with.

"An open mind is like a fortress with it's gates unbarred and unguarded."

What happens when an unstoppable force meets three defensive players? THIS: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpWqMqrZwTU

by TexansForever on Aug 12, 2010 1:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

Speaking of kickers...

I saw where you guys brought in another kicker to camp to compete with Brown….What’s your take on that situation?

by titansfan4ever on Aug 13, 2010 4:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

We brought in Neil Rackers (ex-Arizona kicker) to compete

So far the competition has been tight. In fact, I think they may be tied or have a 1 kick difference between them.

We expect to see them taking alot of shots tomorrow night. I think Kubiak plans to to basically have them kick every time we end up with a 4th down within 50 yards of the uprights.

"An open mind is like a fortress with it's gates unbarred and unguarded."

What happens when an unstoppable force meets three defensive players? THIS: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpWqMqrZwTU

by TexansForever on Aug 13, 2010 5:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well the good thing is the offense "SHOULD" be better this year with some decent running backs...

So the defense doesn’t have to shut out opposing teams, they just have to slow them down and let the offense win the game.

"An open mind is like a fortress with it's gates unbarred and unguarded."

What happens when an unstoppable force meets three defensive players? THIS: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpWqMqrZwTU

by TexansForever on Aug 10, 2010 12:07 PM CDT reply actions  

hahahaha

no doctor has put his reputation on the line by stating “that over-trained athlete syndrome” in public

the only one to utter those idiotic words are brian cushing….not a doctor

and you texanforever, are doing just like cushing, trying to throw any excuse you can at the wall…..

so now the testing procedures are suspect? doesn’t the over-trained athlete syndrome imply the testing was correct and that cushing produced this hormone naturally from working out harder than any man ever in the history of organized and tested athletic competitions?

texan fans are still idiots…..I am confirmed of that every day on my drive to work and everyday on my way home and especially when I go to the games at reliant

by zackmann on Aug 10, 2010 6:10 PM CDT reply actions  

Your a dumbass....

And from what Dr. Black told me, contesting the test should be more about the process than the result. “The way in which HCG testing is conducted in sports is that they use a combination of two screening tests,” Dr. Black said. “They don’t use what we would practically consider to be a confirmatory test in forensic testing. They give one test and if they have an elevated answer [result], they run a second screening test. The belief is that the two screening tests will show the elevated HCG, but that’s not standard practice in forensic drug testing. Forensic drug testing would require a confirmatory test that is based on a second and different technology than the screening test. So, the question, I think, would still be undecided as to whether or not the test results indicate use of HCG, or whether or not this is a true violation of the program.”
Dr. Black told me that the screening-test technology is based on an antibody-based test — “these antibodies are developed that can recognize the possible presence of a drug or chemical. These kinds of screening tests are used for all sorts of drug testing. But the standard practice in forensic drug testing is that if you have a positive, you then want to use a confirmatory technology, and the confirmatory technology that is accepted in the court systems is called Mass Spectrometry. This is a much more elegant, sophisticated, and definite way of identifying if something is truly present. Screening tests are generally good to show when something is not present. If you really want to show that something is present, you use confirmatory test technology.”

"An open mind is like a fortress with it's gates unbarred and unguarded."

What happens when an unstoppable force meets three defensive players? THIS: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpWqMqrZwTU

by TexansForever on Aug 11, 2010 8:07 AM CDT up reply actions  

Here is the rest of that piece...

So, the NFL does not use Mass Spectrometry? “Not in this test. The NFL uses Mass Spectrometry in virtually all other tests. For this test, they just use the combination of the two different screening tests, which should not be standard practice for identifying if someone has used HCG. This is the way the Anti-Doping Agency approaches testing for this particular compound, and the NFL has generally adopted their approach. But because there are so few [non-negative results], and there’s a lot of expense in conducting a Mass Spectrometry test, some scientists believe that it’s acceptable. But this would certainly not be acceptable if it were a cocaine positive, or any other drug. If it were any other drug, it would require Mass Spectrometry identification.”
Dr. Black also told me that he has testified to the NFL about the need for confirmatory tests in the case of another player, but the hearing panel disregarded his comments. “If I were testing an employee in some [business/professional] setting where HCG were not allowed … if I tried to use this data to have them lose their jobs, it would not be accepted. I have argued that this is not acceptable practice in forensic drug testing, but [the NFL has] adopted this approach. It is not consistent with Federal or workplace testing programs. And almost all other drugs that are tested for in sports require Mass Spectrometry identification.”

From http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner

"An open mind is like a fortress with it's gates unbarred and unguarded."

What happens when an unstoppable force meets three defensive players? THIS: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpWqMqrZwTU

by TexansForever on Aug 11, 2010 8:14 AM CDT up reply actions  

So again.....put your vitriolic hatred for Cushing and the Texans aside and read the quotes above.

Don’t you think that NFL Players should AT LEAST get the federal/workplace standard for substance testing?

If you say no, your agenda is clouding your logic.

"An open mind is like a fortress with it's gates unbarred and unguarded."

What happens when an unstoppable force meets three defensive players? THIS: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpWqMqrZwTU

by TexansForever on Aug 11, 2010 8:15 AM CDT up reply actions  

rocky

rocky must have been busting out with hCG after he trained in Russia……..

by zackmann on Aug 10, 2010 6:11 PM CDT reply actions  

more reasons why the texans and their fans are a bunch of wimps

the only way the roof on Reliant is open is if the temp is between 60-80 degrees and the chance of rain is 0%

really?

this is football…..not patty cake or hop scotch

perfect example was last september in the home opener against the jets

you remember that one don’t you moron texan fans? the game where the jets were the men and you were the little girls……

the roof was closed

the high was around 85 at my house downtown….not a drop of rain, although there was like a 20% chance of rain……it didn’t rain at reliant.

the roof was closed in sunny 85 degree weather

how can you expect the players to play like men when they are treated like girls?

ps – another reason you suck is that your colors are red-white-blue, only instead of using the best shades of red and blue ever put together, you choose different shades than the flag……..the football gods don’t like that……and such you will be punished with a wimpy team

by zackmann on Aug 10, 2010 6:15 PM CDT reply actions  

There really should be a minimum IQ requirement to post on SBN.

I mean really? I feel bad for you man, I really do.

"An open mind is like a fortress with it's gates unbarred and unguarded."

What happens when an unstoppable force meets three defensive players? THIS: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpWqMqrZwTU

by TexansForever on Aug 11, 2010 8:11 AM CDT up reply actions  

reading texanforever's replies just makes me laugh more and more

“i want to believe him”…..hahahaha……..that is a great way to start…..someone who has been accused of roids his entire life and then got caught with a substance related to roid-scheduling and you want to believe him when he throws out no less than 3 or 4 excuses………i just love that….“i want to believe him”

“the testing is flawed”…………even you think it is ridiculous to argue that since Cushing trains harder than any person ever and that someone made him produce a hormone that is associated with cancer and pregnancy, you keep trying to argue the testing was flawed….

i’m sure if cushing didn’t get caught, you wouldn’t be so up in arms on testing standards…….you only grasp onto that because you are a homer that can’t think objectively

will you vote for a candidate that runs on the platform of worker rights (likley a Dem that is associated with the union) that workplace drug testing is flawed and hurts workers? I’m guessing you would not support pot heads at your work…..but a roid player for your crappy team is ok

by zackmann on Aug 10, 2010 6:28 PM CDT reply actions  

and cushing isn't really sure of over-trained athlete syndrom himself

he says he is “pretty sure” that’s what it is….his quote had “pretty” as a qualifier like 3 times….

and he had to clear his throat during one explanation……hahahahahahaha….awesome

by zackmann on Aug 10, 2010 6:31 PM CDT reply actions  

As an Outsider Looking In

I think Cushing should serve the suspension gracefully instead of parading around claiming it’s his bodies fault. With that being said, your “rant” seems more like a personal attack on the Texans, the NFL processes and the Fans in general than it does a rant. So what, RG gives him another appeal, who cares? What does it affect you in any way shape or form? Does it change the outcome of your life so much that you really need to resort to personal attacks on opposing teams fan base? VY got in a fist fight at a strip club and nothing happened to him. He was caught on tape being a jackass, and the Titan fans as a whole will defend his actions as they should since he plays for their team. Does it affect me? No. Does it affect the Houston Fans? Not Really. Should VY be suspended? I could care less, but RG gave him a pass that would have left Pacman Jones, Cedrick Benson, Larry Johnson, Michael Vick, and several other players suspended. If you want Goodell to clamp down on stupidity of players, then maybe he should stop giving free passes to everybody. Suspend Cushing, suspend VY, hell suspend the entire Raiders Team for their owner and coaching staff’s blunders. I think Goodell is justified in granting another appeal. He is trying to be fair with it and give hope to a situation that will ultimately lead to Cushing’s suspension one way or another. I think you should relax a little and count your blessings that Cushing is not on your team instead of becoming so infuriated.

Underestimate No One, Take Nothing For Granted

by SaintsFanInIraq on Aug 10, 2010 11:56 PM CDT reply actions  

Agreed.

Cushing is either innocent or guilty. If Goodell has new evidence it will either prove Cushing innocent, or it will not. End of story.

"An open mind is like a fortress with it's gates unbarred and unguarded."

What happens when an unstoppable force meets three defensive players? THIS: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpWqMqrZwTU

by TexansForever on Aug 11, 2010 8:09 AM CDT up reply actions  

Danno!!

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"If anyone asks you, you fixed my television. Now go!"

by gramsey712 on Aug 11, 2010 7:49 AM CDT up reply actions  

it's still b.s. that goodell will make special exceptions for the owners

i think the sheriff’s backed himself into a corner with his tough guy approach & now he’s gone soft on his initial stance. that or he’s scared shitless of a lockout so he’ll do anything the owners ask for.

by NikoliVoltron on Aug 12, 2010 11:05 AM CDT reply actions  

If you are looking for comments that were here before

and no longer are, they have been deleted. No religion talk here. Thanks.

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"What if I was Peyton Manning?"- CJ to the ref after they picked up a personal foul flag for a late hit on him.

by Jimmy on Aug 14, 2010 12:45 PM CDT reply actions  

thank you!!

How could anyone be a Jaguars fan???
Also, Anyone who thinks Tim Teabag can play running back in the NFL clearly didn't see his 40 yrd or 3 cone time...

by RareColoradoTitanFan on Aug 14, 2010 8:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

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