Tennessee Titans Morning Links: Expect Snuggies In The Next CBA Edition
Kevin Mawae says he isn't mad at the Titans for not giving him a call, but he certainly sounds like he feels there's unfinished business between he and the front office. For the first time this offseason Mawae is saying that Jeff Fisher (who confirms as much in the story) personally guaranteed him a roster spot, even if it was as a back-up. Yet, here he sits with no offers as training camp gets under way. Reinfeldt has said recently that the chances of Mawae getting a look from the team are pretty small barring a major injury, and Mawae says it's a case of the coach and GM not communicating. You know what it sounds like to me? A case of a coach who lost a good chunk of his front office power after an 0-6 start on the heels of a 13-3 season. Lest anyone has forgotten, there were lots of rumors saying that Fisher's head was on the chopping block during the bye-week last year, and my bet is that Fisher lost a lot of his cache he'd built up after winning a power struggle with Floyd Reese several years ago. Truth be told, I think that's probably for the best, even if Mawae gets the brunt of it this time around.
Paul K says that the Titans owe Mawae a phone call, if only to make the veteran feel better. MCM could not confirm reports that the Titans front office is planning on sending Mawae a care basket including a box of books by Nicholas Sparks, a copy of Fleetwood Mac's Rumors, a leopard-print Snuggie and a puppy dog.
I said it on our podcast last week, and I'll say it again: If you aren't rooting for Keith Bulluck, it's your problem. He's everything you want in an NFL star, and he'll be missed as a citizen of Nashville, and a leader of the Titans franchise.
Follow us through the jump for more actual news!
As Jimmy posted yesterday, Derrick Morgan continues to miss valuable training camp time with nagging leg injuries. It's not time to panic yet, but I can understand why Gramsey has started construction on another wing of his doomsday bunker to house more jittery refugees.
Hey, at least Morgan made it on the field for a few drills. That's more than Damian Williams got accomplished this weekend as the 3rd round pick started camp on the PUP list.
John Glennon reports that Vinny Fuller made a rare appearance at the cornerback spot yesterday as the team tries to sort through the injuries that have depleted the position.
The thankfully-immutable oilerstitan points us towards this Yahoo! article that analyzes the Titans from a fantasy perspective, and gives perhaps the most glowing fantasy-forecast of Vince Young I've seen in a while:
At his current ADP (181.3), Young is really a no-risk selection. You're drafting him as a fantasy backup; if he continues to limit the negative plays, he'll be an asset in our game. His talent as runner has made him a nightmare for defenses that play man-coverage, and the rushing stats contribute significantly to his projected fantasy value. You'll recall that Young gained 552 yards on 83 carries in 2006, reaching the end zone seven times.
Hopes are high for the contributions Jared Cook can make to the passing game, but PFW's blind item round-up says how many live snaps he gets will depend on how Kenny Britt performs this year:
• Titans TE Jared Cook's productivity could be tied to how ready to contribute WR Kenny Britt is after a disappointing offseason, a source close to the team suggests. Cook, who has very good speed, has the ability to be split out wide and could be used more in that role if Britt disappoints, the way we hear it.
Contrary to what NFL fans who spend more time playing Madden then watching actual games would have you believe, Adam Jones never could play cornerback worth a flip. He made one stellar leaping INT against the Giants oh so many years ago, and that's about the extent of his defensive highlights. So, it's no surprise to hear he's getting thumped in Bengal's camp after playing in only nine games over the past three years and not logging an interception since 2006.
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Corrected:
He made
onetwo leaping INTs against the Giants oh so many years ago
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edited for differentiation
he had two picks in that game, but only the one was a star-maker type play…
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BRING BACK PACMAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1111111
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i said the same thing in a reply to Peter King when talking about how Ocho burned him in camp..
There is a clip showing Ocho just soar over him and snag a TD and then the next clip shows Pac slamming his helmet down…LOL!
"He is fast, but what I like about him is he looks like one of those track guys that actually knows how to run the ball and has good vision and patience. He is not just running at top speed. He knows when to use his speed, and he has some power and toughness, too.'' Barry Sanders about CJ2K
Dwight Howard >The Justice League of America
Kevin Mawae...
still has unfinished business with the Titans?….of course he does….that’s why he’s the head of the players union.
Seriously
Does our front office consist of monkeys flinging shit at each other? wtf do these clowns do all day? Apparently nothing.
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by InFisherWeTrust on Aug 2, 2010 11:45 AM CDT via mobile reply actions
thats not true
theyre very busy everyday – alienating classy veterans
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1. Fisher is on his way out. When a coach has as much power in the front office as Fisher did only to have it pared back, it is the beginning of the end, because the players, scouts, assistants etc. don’t look at you the same any more, and are more willing to defy you. That’s one of the reasons why Fisher is doing his best to surround himself with loyalists. But the truth is that only a big season – that includes a playoff win or two – can get Fisher back into a strong position, and even then Fisher would only survive until the next bad season.
2. Paul Kuharsky … well at least he is being consistent. Mawae was a Fisher loyalist, and Mawae was also a source for “off-the-record” quotes to Kuharsky and the Tennessee media mafia that Fisher used to get his opinion out there and make it appear that it was the opinion of the players and organization and not just Fisher himself. In return for his Fisher advocacy, the Titans made Mawae “team captain” and gave him much more money than any other team would have for an undersized interior OL that is almost 40 would have, kept him in the starting lineup ahead of younger, bigger more athletic OLs, and made him look good by playing him the other 4 guys on the OL plus great blocking FBs and TEs. It really speaks volumes that no one has offered Mawae a contract, and Mawae has tried to spin it by claiming that he is being blackballed due to his NFLPA advocacy (ridiculous because other NFLPA leaders have had no problem finding work). But now that Fisher is hanging by a thread, it makes sense that the folks in Nashville who want to keep their jobs after Fisher is gone (including Reinfeldt) are retaining the best players rather than keeping Fisher loyalists and moles around.
3. I have no issue with failing to root for Keith Bulluck being my problem. It is a problem that I am willing to have. I will certainly be rooting against Bulluck’s Giants in week 3. Look, if the San Francisco 49ers were willing to cut Joe Montana AND Jerry Rice AND Charles Haley AND Deion Sanders AND John Taylor AND Roger Craig loose, I don’t get the weeping and gnashing of teeth over the Titans’ allowing a guy who could only get a 1 year deal for virtually no guaranteed money to be a reserve MLB on one of the weaker LB corps in the NFL. The Titans are not obligated to retain Bulluck for as long as Bulluck wants to keep playing, and that is something that Titans’ fans have to realize.
4. If the Titans’ needed Derrick Morgan, he’d be on the field. The fact that he isn’t proves that the Titans are very confident that he can pick things up rather quickly and be ready when the time comes. Morgan played for a very complex read and react defense at Georgia Tech, one that was designed for those high IQ (but low size and ability) Navy players. If he was able to excel in that scheme, learning the Titans’ more instinctive defense that made stars out of more than a few guys who weren’t exactly Rhodes’ Scholars won’t be that big of a deal. Morgan’s biggest issue will be learning the new technique (i.e. lining up out wide) and being a guy who relies more on speed, strength and making quick moves either to the inside or outside rather than trying to read the offense. Morgan could miss a great deal of training camp and still be the 1st team DE on opening day.
4. Now Damian Williams’ missing time is an issue. Anyone who wants to see the guy challenge Lavelle Hawkins (whom Fisher is talking up in order to keep yet another of his draft day decisions from falling by the wayside) and get snaps on offense this season and push Justin Gage off the roster by next season can’t be happy with the fact that if this keeps up, Fisher will get to relegate him in the punt return role.
5. Claiming that Jared Cook’s success will come at the expense of Kenny Britt is absurd. My guess is that Jeff FIsher is leaking this because he supported drafting Cook but not Britt. That would explain why Fisher has been so much harder on Britt than he has on “his guys” like LenDale White and Albert Haynesworth. Fisher wouldn’t even play Britt last year despite Washington and Gage (guys that Fisher signed to long deals!) playing terribly until Gage got hurt, and now he is using every opportunity to humiliate Britt over an allegedly poor work ethic when Haynesworth and White never even tried to get into shape during the offseason. The truth is that of the few things that can be guaranteed about the 2011 roster, one of those is that Bo Scaife won’t be on it. Because of this, the Titans will give Cook every chance to see if he can replace Scaife next season.
And why Cook would take snaps from Britt, the most talented WR on the roster (and probably the most talented WR the Titans have ever had under Fisher, and yes that includes another Fisher mistake, Kevin Dyson, who was drafted over Randy Moss) and not the one-dimensional mentally fragile butter-fingers like (Fisher acquirees) Nate Washington and Justin Gage needs to be explained. It would make far more sense to run two-TE packages with Scaife and Cook than 3 WR packages involving ANY of the Titans’ WRs. Scaife, Cook, Britt and Washington should be the Titans’ third down offense. Period.
5. Adam Jones … sorry. The guy had an outstanding season in 2006, and was as much a part of the reason why the Titans’ nearly made the playoffs that season as was Travis Henry and Vince Young. Remember: 2006 was the year that Haynesworth really didn’t play much, and also didn’t do a whole lot when he WAS on the field. (Kyle Vanden Bosch didn’t do much either, only 6.5 sacks.) And the Titans’ secondary was horrible that season. Cortland Finnegan hadn’t emerged yet, Nick Harper didn’t come on board until the next season, and the safety play was atrocious. Look, the Titans should have never put themselves in that bad position by passing up all those great players to take Adam Jones so high. But the fact is that from what we saw of him in 2006, had he been willing or able to get his act together off the field, he would have been a perennial Pro Bowl player. He and Finnegan would have given the Titans’ the best CB combo in the NFL by far.
hey.
that’s not lurking. change your screen name. i should probably change mine to residentsmartass.
LURKING LOVES JEFF FISHER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1111
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To your point about Kenny Britt:
Advanced NFL Stats has him as 4th in the league in Win Probability added per play (due in no small part to the Arizona game), 10th in YPR, and 16th in Yards per target. In short, there’s no reasonable excuse as to why he shouldn’t be our starting flanker next year.
I do disagree with you about Gage though. He has the size and physical tools to play split end. Nate Washington doesn’t. I think as a whole, we’re better off with Kenny at Flanker, Gage at Split End, and Nate in the slot when we need him. This isn’t necessarily to say that Gage is better than Nate. I just think there’s too much downside in putting Britt on the LOS at SE where he’s going to have to fight through jams on every play. Plus, Nate really only showed me that he’s good at running in a straight line, getting behind the defense, and catching the ball 50% of the time last year. The slot allows him to do that AND attack the seams with his speed.
Yeah
I’m not reading that
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by Aditya T (smashville) on Aug 2, 2010 1:31 PM CDT up reply actions
actually a good rant...very informative...i guess...
i read it..
"He is fast, but what I like about him is he looks like one of those track guys that actually knows how to run the ball and has good vision and patience. He is not just running at top speed. He knows when to use his speed, and he has some power and toughness, too.'' Barry Sanders about CJ2K
Dwight Howard >The Justice League of America
by Bonafidebrother on Aug 2, 2010 2:24 PM CDT up reply actions
LOL me too
August…Pacman was that good. Why else would the league ban his goal post slide? Because he was doing it too much!
thats because he was getting punt and kickoff returns for TD....not interceptions...
"He is fast, but what I like about him is he looks like one of those track guys that actually knows how to run the ball and has good vision and patience. He is not just running at top speed. He knows when to use his speed, and he has some power and toughness, too.'' Barry Sanders about CJ2K
Dwight Howard >The Justice League of America
by Bonafidebrother on Aug 2, 2010 2:52 PM CDT up reply actions
^^^
Yeah, sounds like the next Deion Sanders to me…
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Come on man
He was only in his 2nd year. Very few cornerbacks come out and dominate within their first two years in the league…very few.
Guys who get picked 6th overall should
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re: #2
Yes, other NFLPA player presidents have had trouble catching on with another team before when they were a free agent, due to their being the union president.
Former president Marvin Powell was so badly blackballed by the owners following the 1987 strike he sued the NFL. That lawsuit is what ultimately led to the 1993 CBA and modern free agency as we know it.
Now, do I think that’s the case with Mawae? Not necessarily, I think his being 39 and having had injury problems the last few years has more to do with it.
But that doesn’t mean it hasn’t ever happened.
Remember Lurking
Remember Lurking, we were told Hawkins was the smart one between him and Desean Jackson. Lavelle might be smarter but I know D. Jack seems to find the field and the endzone a whole lot more.
in response to the 2 #5's and #4
#4. I would love to see Damian Williams force Washington out of the slot or become 12 Gage’s replacement. for those who have watched him or read about him know about his tremendous return ability (what this team has been severely lacking) and is a speed receiver with (from what I hear) good route running ability. Added that with a freshman QB last year he still put up +1,000 YDS. He’s got good YAC potential.
But I feel your making this out to be worse than it actually is
1st #5:
Good players that we passed up:
Nnamdi Asomugha, Charles Tillman, or Rashean Mathis for Andre Woolfolk
Devin Hester for LenDale White
Chris Cooley for Ben Troupe
But its not like Fish did terrible either:
Stephen Tulloch 4th Round (116th Overall) 2006
David Stewart 4th Round (113th Overall) 2005
Cortland Finnegan 7th Round (215th Overall) 2006
Steve McNair [R.I.P.] 1st Round (3rd Overall) 1995
Eddie George 1st Round (14th Overall) 1996
Derrick Mason 4th Round 1997
Michael Roos 2nd Round 2005
CJ2K 1st Round 2008
and many more I haven’t mentioned
My point is that no one is perfect at drafting, the Colts for example went through three consecutive QB Busts/Trade before Peyton Manning was taken, Joe Montana was a 3rd rounder and only the lord knows what happened to the guys taken in front of him, The Chargers had to go through Ryan Leaf before drafting Drew Brees (In their defence they did attempt to trade out of that spot), Hell look at Reggie Bush and Matt Lienart not exactly first round material eh? The point is not everyone hits on every single pick if we did we probably be like the 70’s Steelers right now.
2nd #5:
Or we could have not drafted Pacman all together and had drafted Asomugha to form a Asomugha/Finny tandem that would put any passing team in their place instead.
I wish I had noticed there were two #5s. Dang it.
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A positive fantasy review of VY!!!!
As an experience fantasy football player I recommend that you only use VY if you are desparate and you need a bye week fill in. Do not draft him, (unless you are the Titans fantasy homer then feel free) he will be on the waiver wire every week. Yahoo’s opinion was so much nicer.
Disagree. I think he'll prove to be a solid back up (ie. top 20 QB), and maybe even borderline starter. He was very consistent for me last year when Kurt Warner went down.
Not on my team.
If He worked for you great, But in the three leagues I was in he was always available. 10 TDs and 7 ints was not good enough to get him off the waiver wire in those leagues. Say VY to them and they say back “I DO NOT WANT TO LOSE” this week.
Vince put up ~13 PPG. By comparison, the 10th best QB (McNabb), put up 15.8.
In a 4 game stretch, Vince put up 19, 16, 15, and 21 points. All of those are solid backup numbers, and borderline starter numbers.
I will have a post on this
probably later today, but VY is a better fantasy QB than he is real life QB.
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Take Him ....
Take Him Superhorn… If you like VY that much draft him over P Manning, Brees, Brady, Favre, Rivers, Romo etc. In the leagues I’m in the fellas did not take VY not even as a bye week replacement. That is the great thing about fantasy football what is one man’s kentucky bourbon player is another man’s COW PEE!!! :)
All aboard the atheletic TE train
Jared C needs to step up, right now he is on the Ben Troupe track as a TE with the Titans. An atheletic TE but does nothing on the field.
You do.
It’s called the “SouthTexasTitan Lounge”
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so gramsey what are the amenities in this Bunker 'O Doom?
im ineterested in possibly reserving some space…LOL
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Dwight Howard >The Justice League of America
by Bonafidebrother on Aug 2, 2010 3:22 PM CDT up reply actions
Too late
We already have the “Bonafidebrother Foyer.”
Pronounced fo-yay, of course.
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well that is how it's pronounced
which sounds like ‘per-nounce’
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I am rooting for Keith Bulluck...
Except for games where a team he plays for plays against the Titans. It’s not like he went to Baltimore or something…

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