Community Projections: Vince Young
by Aditya T (smashville) on Jul 27, 2010 4:45 PM CDT
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Until preseason starts, we will project individual player statistics for the upcoming season. We will start with he leader on the field, quarterback Vince Young. Here are his 2009 stats:
What will VY's final line in these 7 (Games, Completion Percentage, Passing Yards, Passing TDs, INTs, Rushing Yds, and Rushing TDs ) stats be? Answer in the comments.
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I think
It all depends on CJ, & if he can stay healthy, I belive this will be VY’s best year yet!
But will have to wait to see.
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by jaketitan427 on Jul 27, 2010 4:54 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
That said
Gm-16
PasserR-61.2
yrds-3867
TD-23
int-11
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by jaketitan427 on Jul 27, 2010 5:00 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
I agree with Jake that if CJ stays healthy that VY can have a great yeat...
Stats:
Gm – 16
Completion% – 62.3
Passing Yards – 2673
Passing TD’s – 17
Int’s – 11
Rushing yards – 436
Rushing TD’s – 5
I get these from using the SWAG method… Scientific Wild Ass Guess lol
Im going with
16 Games
61.6 – Comp %
3285 – Passing Yards
22 – TDs
11 – INTs
I just want to point out that McNair never threw for more then 3,400 passing yards so I would be shocked if Vince could do that in his 4th season.
USC > UT (Both of them)
Of course bigger numbers with the assumption of 16 games...
59% comp.
3600 yds
19 TDs
14 INTs
6 Rush TDs
300 Rush Yds
Good, not great – but opens up lanes for the running game to dominate.
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gm-16
pass yds -3450
21td
10int
5rush tds
350 rush yds
It depends not only on CJ
but Bo Scaife stayin as good
Jared Cooke actually doin somethin in games that count
and Kenny Britt gettin off his lazy ass.
that said heres my stat predictions:
3400 passing yards
20 touchdowns
9 ints
3 rushing TDs
425 rushing yards
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by RareColoradoTitanFan on Jul 27, 2010 8:13 PM CDT reply actions
Wow, ye of little faith
I’m new to this, so I’m gonna start off by saying I’m surprised nobody had given VY a chance to have very elite numbers. I know he won’t be Peyton Manning, but I think he’ll have a breakout season
3800 passing yds
28 touchdowns
10 ints
800 Rushing yds (50 yds per game)
5 rushing TD’s
This will be the year that Vince statistically becomes the player the TItans drafted him to be.
3500 Passing Yards (~220 Yards/Game)
24 TDs (1.5/Game)
10 INTS (.62/game)
600 Rushing Yards (~40 Yards/Game)
5 Rushing TDs
Based on his progression last year, I think this is where he’ll end up. Also, the way he’s approached the game both this offseason and last feels different than years past. Despite his altercation at the night club, he’s saying all the right things in interviews, and the feedback I’ve read from other players/coaches is that this is the best he’s ever looked. I’m cautiously optimistic.
ok........
who were the 4 people, besides Joycat, to vote “worse than 2009”
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I did.
I just don’t see it. I’ll admit it, there is not much this guy can do short of win a Superbowl that will make a believer out of me. I’m stoked to cheer on Sunday and I’ll root for him, but I’m just not a fan of him personally or as a player.
I'm hoping for these numbers
Games – 16
Comp. % – 65
Pass Yds – 3,500
PassTDs – 25
INTs – 8
Rsh Yds – 450
Rsh TDs – 7
With the extra work he has put this off season, CJ playing, Britt with one more year of experience, Cook staying healthy and Washington hopefully holding to the ball we can expect good things from VY and this offense.
I'm not a VY fanboy, I'm a VY supporter
why?
why does CJ playing, Britt one more year, Cook staying healthy and Wash holding onto the ball have an effect on how VY plays?
Brady for several years had and won superbowls with less.. the year he get’s a wes, and randy he explodes for the best year ever.. but when VY is mentioned it’s always about crappy WR’s or blow blocks, or injuried players.. never has anything to do with his weak passes, and bad decisions and quitter attitude..
also.. all last year showed was that Dinger had to stop taking chances and dumb down the play book.. but what I will credit VY for doing was extending the play with his legs and limiting the 3 – outs.. giving the defense a break so they can perform at a higher level and giving CJ more touches..
also.. all last year showed was that Dinger had to stop taking chances and dumb down the play book.. but what I will credit VY for doing was extending the play with his legs and limiting the 3 – outs.. giving the defense a break so they can perform at a higher level and giving CJ more touches..Let’s face it.. all VY has is a one good college year, an exciting first season for a team that wasn’t expected to do crap.. the truth is that the team excelled VY’s first year.. had we had an in the weeds QB like Warner or Brady we would have been superbowl contenders and probably winners… I also don’t think we can win a superbowl with Collins and as well that we may have passed our window with all the new comers on D..
also.. all last year showed was that Dinger had to stop taking chances and dumb down the play book.. but what I will credit VY for doing was extending the play with his legs and limiting the 3 – outs.. giving the defense a break so they can perform at a higher level and giving CJ more touches..Let’s face it.. all VY has is a one good college year, an exciting first season for a team that wasn’t expected to do crap.. the truth is that the team excelled VY’s first year.. had we had an in the weeds QB like Warner or Brady we would have been superbowl contenders and probably winners… I also don’t think we can win a superbowl with Collins and as well that we may have passed our window with all the new comers on D..I think you guys are all Crazy for thinking he will throw for over 3000 yds and more td’s then INT"s… but lets hope he surprise and really does get it… but right now a zebra doesnt change their stripes nor do quitters
by white02slpss on Jul 28, 2010 1:00 AM CDT up reply actions
What a load of crap!
I'm not a VY fanboy, I'm a VY supporter
by Lord_Drist on Jul 28, 2010 1:20 AM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
Would you agree with the statement that
all last year showed was that Dinger had to stop taking chances and dumb down the play book?
If so, is there anything you will credit VY for, by chance?
yes
I credit him with extending drives.. i’ve stated it more than once..
by white02slpss on Jul 29, 2010 5:22 PM CDT up reply actions
You must be the.....
You must be the in house help who went “HORNS DOWN” to VY at club ONYX and made him go likes to fight guy. :)
Uh...
why does CJ playing, Britt one more year, Cook staying healthy and Wash holding onto the ball have an effect on how VY plays?
Do you watch football?
by TheElusiveShadow on Jul 29, 2010 12:45 AM CDT up reply actions
oh yes
my point is that Collins geos the blame for when the team did bad.. but VY never does.. it’s always that those guys have to have good years or VY has nothing to work with..
by white02slpss on Jul 29, 2010 5:21 PM CDT up reply actions
False
my point is that Collins geos the blame for when the team did bad.. but VY never does
You haven’t been around MCM long, have you?
by TheElusiveShadow on Jul 29, 2010 7:58 PM CDT up reply actions
hmmm
games – 2
comp – 54%
pass yds – 167
pass td’s – 0
ints – 2
rsh – 25
rsh tds – 0
VY stinks it up in the first game but is credited with the win because CJ goes for 123 yds and 3 TDs and defense shines. In 2nd game VY gets off to a bad start with a pick 6 and INT inside the 30 leading to a TD…early in 3rd qt VY is boo’d and at the same time pulls a hamstring and refuses to go back in. collins comes in and is blamed for loss along with defense in a 21 – 17 come back loss after being down 14 – 0 late in the 3rd!!!
Collins and Rookie QB go on to lead the team to 13 wins, britt has an great season but misses pro-bowl.. Collins is blamed and VY love starts claiming how good Britt would be if VY was the starter..
CJ runs for record
Nope
You are more, you are a clairvoyant, because you already now what is going to happen on the first two game of the season. Why no go ahead and tell who’s going to win the Super bowl so I can bet and make some money.
So as a so called “realist” you chose to ignore everything that happened in the las 10 games of the season and hang to the “quitter” B.S to base your “prediction”.
I’ll say it again HATEN!
I'm not a VY fanboy, I'm a VY supporter
other than
Other than extending the drive with his legs what did VY prove the last ten games?
as for my prediction.. are you really that ignorant? It’s called sarcasm. Of course I don’t know the future.. But I do know Vince Young quit on his team! that is a quitter and there is know getting around those FACTS!
VY may have a future as a avg or below avg QB.. I just hope it’s not with the Titans after this year
by white02slpss on Jul 28, 2010 1:58 AM CDT up reply actions
Did you actually watch the games last year?
I hope you realize that you sound just as ignorant as the VY “fanboys” from a year ago. But, just to illustrate my point, I’ll entertain your request.
From Advanced NFL Stats:
Vince was 6th in the league in Win Probability added per play.
11th in Expected Points added per play.
The editor goes on to say about the Titans 2009 turnaround:
The Titans really played two different seasons last year, one in which they began 0-6 with Kerry Collins at the helm, and another in which they went 8-2 under Vince Young. Let’s drill down game by game to see what caused the turn-around. Was it Young or did the defense get its act together?Vince ranked 14th in DVOA by Football Outsiders. It’s worth noting that nearly all the QBs surrounding him in that ranking threw for over 3000 yards (Matt Ryan did not).
It turns out it was the offense, and passing in particular, that led the turnaround. The pass defense improved modestly, but was still well below par.
Anyways, you get the idea. If you remove the New England game, he’s statistically a top 10 quarterback. So far, none of these predictions are outlandish. Convert last year’s stats to an entire season, and he’s at ~2900 yards. 20 TDs. 14 INTs. Based on the improvements we saw last year and the positive reactions from the coaching staff this offseason, I think expectations of him playing better this year are reasonable.
Last, it’s time to get over the alleged quitting on his team. You can continue to be stubborn about it. That’s your prerogative. But, I think if you maintain that stance, wins over the next two years (minimum) will be very bittersweet.
soooooo
the team and play calling had nothing to do with it? things such as Britt’s climb to the mountain on a high throw in the cards game had nothing to do with it?
I will credit and continue to credit VY for extending drives with his legs.. But I will not believe he will have a top 10 season till he proves it..
the 0-6 start was as much a failure on the throw first approach then anything. it was over confidence in Collins and the WR’s on Dingers part. After the bye and the force move to VY the staff took a different approach and seriously changed the way they called plays.
Same thing happened the year prior when Collins came in.. only difference was that after a few game the staff was confident in Collins and opened the play book up more. With VY last year that didn’t happen.. they kept it simple.
as for getting over he quit? or alleged as you called it.. F’ing NEVER.. I was one of the biggest VY supporters till then.. he’s a worthless human being in my mind.. he goes against everything I believe and teach my kids.. there are no excuses for what life throws at you.. you take it and do your best and you NEVER EVER F’ing QUIT!!! A DECENT HUMAN BEING DOES NOT LEAVE FRIENDS, FAMILY, AND OR CO-WORKERS HIGH AND DRY
by white02slpss on Jul 29, 2010 5:32 PM CDT up reply actions
You're trying too hard
the team and play calling had nothing to do with it? things such as Britt’s climb to the mountain on a high throw in the cards game had nothing to do with it?
Sure, it had some to do with it. That’s true of any football team. Who has to execute those plays? Who has to throw the ball? Yeah, that’s VY. And Britt’s “climb to the mountain” was a great catch, but it was a great throw that only he had a chance to get. That is exactly what VY needed to do for that play.
I will credit and continue to credit VY for extending drives with his legs.. But I will not believe he will have a top 10 season till he proves it..
We can see that; the point that Superhorn and others are making is that you are not giving due credit to what Vince did with his arm. He threw the long ball well and had a statistically solid season for the 10 games he started. Besides, if you mean “top 10 season” in terms of pure passing numbers, perhaps you have not watched Jeff Fisher’s offense. Like, at all.
the 0-6 start was as much a failure on the throw first approach then anything. it was over confidence in Collins and the WR’s on Dingers part. After the bye and the force move to VY the staff took a different approach and seriously changed the way they called plays.
How much of Collins’ attempts simply came because the Titans were down? When a team goes 0-6, you can bet that they had to throw the ball a lot more because, well, they’re losing. Kerry was simply bad, and VY was a better alternative. Of course the offense is going to change because VY is a different player (only a fool would not take advantage of having Vince and CJ in the same backfield), but how on earth does this deflect blame from Collins?
as for getting over he quit? or alleged as you called it.. F’ing NEVER.. I was one of the biggest VY supporters till then.. he’s a worthless human being in my mind..
Then it’s obviously personal for you (for no apparent reason, since he didn’t do anything to you), which is not Vince’s problem one bit, but yours. You allege he quit, as many have. Not only is this debatable, have you ever heard of forgiveness? Of giving people a second chance? Of letting people mature? Those might be good things to teach your kids too, because everyone makes mistakes. This, of course, is only if we grant that VY “quit.”
You might want to look in mirror after your high and mighty moralizing, because calling people “worthless human beings” over a disputed event in a football game is not exactly decent.
Also, you didn’t address a single thing Superhorn brought up. What do you have to say about those numbers from FO? How, specifically, are they wrong and misleading? If you want people to listen to you about VY, stop making it so personal and talk football. There are still many things to criticize VY for on the field, which is far more constructive than that Dan Gilbert-ish end to your post.
by TheElusiveShadow on Jul 29, 2010 8:16 PM CDT up reply actions
just to harp on you a lil bit.....
because we all know you are a troll or JoyKat long lost relative….that 99 yd drive that he took the Titans on to win that game…..he didn’t do it by using his legs….if i am correct and gramsey correct me if i am wrong, he passed on each one of those plays….
If this is a preview of the “commentary” that we have to expect coming from you….I would advise you to stay away from the game threads….you know the place on this site where real “Titans” fans go to comment on the game…thank you!
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by Bonafidebrother on Jul 28, 2010 8:45 AM CDT up reply actions
I don't remember exactly, but I do know he passed on most of those plays..if not all
And white is not a troll. He is just not a VY fan. At all. Like not any at all.
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I can understand not being a VY fan but..
Isn’t crazy to wish a player downfall that as a result would be detrimental to the team success. White may not be a troll but when it comes to VY sure acts like one.
I'm not a VY fanboy, I'm a VY supporter
Not quite
One run for roughly 5 yards. That was it though.
by TheElusiveShadow on Jul 29, 2010 12:41 AM CDT up reply actions
So you can be sarcastic but can't see it when someone is being sarcastic?
That’s classic. The FACTS are: the organization turned the page on that incident, they showed by paying the bonus that was due this year. He helped, and was a big part of the turn around, 0 – 6 team to finish with a 8 – 8 record. Now even Wyatt, we all know he’s not the biggest VY fan, is saying that during this off season his commitment has translated to the playing field.
So I will say again, HATEN!
I'm not a VY fanboy, I'm a VY supporter
Guess
Guess not.. if you were being Sarcastic and I did indeed miss it then I’m sorry..
But the Org hasn’t turned the page either.. nor has the players around that year. Of course everyone said the right things but none supported him.. there was many times in the games you’d see VY getting up alone.
unlike his rookie year when you’d have 2 or 3 players wanting to help him up or standing around him..
by white02slpss on Jul 29, 2010 5:37 PM CDT up reply actions
Have you talked to any of the players?
You assuming that they have not forgiven him does not make it a fact. Now you are nick picking. You are truly reaching.
I'm not a VY fanboy, I'm a VY supporter
if
if that is how it’s going to be defined then so be it.. hatten..
by white02slpss on Jul 29, 2010 5:37 PM CDT up reply actions
Wow
Somebody’s bitter than Collins got benched.
by TheElusiveShadow on Jul 29, 2010 12:41 AM CDT up reply actions
NOPE
I don’t like Collins all that much.. but I don’t believe he deserves all the blame either..
by white02slpss on Jul 29, 2010 5:34 PM CDT up reply actions
Hmm
Games – 16
CP – 60%
PYDS – 3100
PTDS – 23
INTS – 11
RYDS – 250
RTDS – 5
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by BonzosMontreaux on Jul 27, 2010 11:07 PM CDT reply actions
I think he will do well this year
but I hope they give him a fair amount of pre-season time. I don’t think he’s reached the “we know what he is and don’t need to play him much in pre-season” level yet.
Damn
That was a whole lot of hate, in… well, a lot of words. Sounded like an under qualified miss cleo went a little too far… You can never really tell how a player is going to play from one year to the next, with the exception of the san diego game on x-mas last year, no signs point to vince having a bad year.I think the only thing that can/will prevent him from having a good year is if he gets hurt. When you can run the ball as well as CJ2K can, passing becomes a little easier.
Games – 15 ( VY sits week 17 bc titans already wrapped up a playoff spot)
Comp. % – 61
Pass Yds – 3,200
PassTDs – 23
INTs – 11
Rsh Yds – 350
Rsh TDs – 5
Not glamorous, but...
G – 16
Comp % – 58.5
Pass Yds – 2345
Pass TDs – 14
INTs – 9
Rsh Yds – 465
Rsh TDs – 7
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I say go for it all
Comp % 92
Pass Yds – 5120
Pass Tds – 55
INTs – 2
Rsh Yds – 2206
Rsh Tds – 47
and four field goals of 50+ yds
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by Chris Faulkner on Jul 28, 2010 4:21 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
9 in the box......
Teams will definitely try to slow the Titans running attack by stacking the line against Chris Johnson, especially early on and it will be up to VY to get the passing game going to keep the Titan’s offense balanced.
Games – 16
Comp. – 61.3
Yards – 3232
TD – 24
INT – 12
Rush – 444
TD – 5
Wins – 11
I think he'll have his best season yet
..but can’t you picture him pulling up on a sidelines run with a pulled quad and missing 2-3 games
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Games- 14
Comp%- 59.2
Yards- 2750
Pass TD- 22
Int- 12
Rush Yds- 400
Rush TD- 5
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young '10 projections
6 g
55% comp
yards – 560
pass td – 3
int – 9
rush yds – 103
rush tds – 2
Has Young ever completed a season fully healthy? Collins takes over the team and they win the South with a qb that can actually throw the ball..as long as his receivers don’t drop the ball.
You're not wrong walter, you're just an asshole.
Man, you are still stuck in 2008
Where were you during last season? I know you were trapped in the “VY Haten Zone”.
I'm not a VY fanboy, I'm a VY supporter
ok
in 6 games VY would just inheriently do better then this…… your pass yards alone say he will not make 100 yards a game.. too me that’s a bad knock on Britt and then.. heck one of them is bound to catch a hail mary for 40 yards and CJ is bound to take a screen 60 yards
by white02slpss on Jul 29, 2010 5:41 PM CDT up reply actions
Are those 2009 numbers correct?
If I remember correctly, the 10 games VY started he threw 10 TDs and 6 interceptions, and that game against NE he threw another one (obviously, it was totally meaningless).
Anyway, while I think VY is very capable, I think the offense Jeff Fisher prefers is just not suited for big passing numbers. Even McNair in his MVP season only threw 24 touchdowns (although his mark of 7 Int was excellent). Thus, for Vince, I think these would be good ballpark numbers to shoot for:
Comp&: 62
Yards: 3000
TD: 18
Int: 12
Rush: 350
Rush TD: 4
In other words, shooting for a good percentage and a 1.5/1 TD to Int ratio will be a good start. Granted, given the outlook of Tennessee this season (offense better than defense), VY may be asked to throw it around a lot more and take more chances, which may lead to a dip in comp% and a rise in Ints, although that would also mean more yards and touchdowns.
by TheElusiveShadow on Jul 29, 2010 12:36 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Dude...
the NE score was 59-0…how could he have thrown a TD?
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by Aditya T (smashville) on Jul 29, 2010 12:37 PM CDT up reply actions
Pick 6! TD for the other team!
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by TheElusiveShadow on Jul 29, 2010 4:25 PM CDT up reply actions
speaking
speaking of that NE game.. VY was asked to go in for mop up duty in a crappy situation didn’t want to.. he did.. but had a crappy attitude about it.. what does that say?
You are the starter and because the game is out of hand and sucks that you don’t want your chance? He should have said.. let’s see what we can do with what I have to work with
by white02slpss on Jul 29, 2010 5:43 PM CDT up reply actions
How do you know he didn't want to?
He went out there in a 59-0 game and played. People even asked him about it later and he said whenever the coach says to play, he’ll play. How is that a bad attitude? In fact, nobody would have blamed him for not wanting to play… it was 59-0! Did you even watch that brutal game?
by TheElusiveShadow on Jul 29, 2010 8:18 PM CDT up reply actions
Your projection is right on point with what I have in mind for Vince this season.
I doubt his completion percentage will hit 62%, but anywhere north of 60% is gravy to me. And a 3-to-2 TD-to-INT ratio would be fabulous, considering his NFL career average.
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by jasonkylebates on Jul 29, 2010 6:03 PM CDT up reply actions
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