A Sad Day: Keith Bulluck Signs with the New York Giants
by Jimmy on Jul 24, 2010 4:52 PM CDT
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PrintI have been living in denial that this day was coming, and now that it is here I really don't even know what to say. ESPN is reporting that Keith Bulluck has signed with the New York Giants after "nailing" a private workout for them at the Meadowlands.
Bulluck has this to say in the above linked article about what he was hearing from the Titans:
"I asked a couple coaches, and I actually asked the general manager what was up with me," Bulluck said. "And I never got any clear answers. So that told me right then and there what was up. And I understand. It's a business thing. They've got to see how I'm going to be in six or seven months when my injury's healed."
I also understand that it is a business, but that just isn't how you treat a guy that has been the face of the franchise for a decade. I guess it was silly for me to expect anything else though..
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"It's making my head spin from all the activities we can do!"
by jaketitan427 on Jul 24, 2010 4:56 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
What a trash day!
"It's making my head spin from all the activities we can do!"
by jaketitan427 on Jul 24, 2010 4:57 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Damn, Damn, Damn
Week 3 will be so weird seeing Keith play against us.
by trevor2013 on Jul 24, 2010 5:01 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
I seriously feel like crying
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by Aditya T (smashville) on Jul 24, 2010 5:18 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
Worst day since the Ravens game...
F#&*!!!!!!!!!
Christie kicks it high and short...Gonna be fielded by Lorenzo Neal at the 25...He dishes it back to Wycheck...He throws it across the field to Dyson...
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by Michaeltastic on Jul 24, 2010 5:19 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
Scooped
in the fan posts… too bad I couldn’t confirm it.
http://www.musiccitymiracles.com/2010/7/24/1586172/keith-bulluck-to-sign-with-ny
Noooooooooooooo
I feel a pit inside my stomach. What a terrible feeling. I wish him all the best, that’s his home state. Dammit. I will love Keith Bulluck for always.
Bigger picture, what was Fishfeldt thinking? The arrogance last year of going into the season without a returner or any depth at CB killed a legit wild card playoff team’s chances. Now they’re doing it with the LB corps. Learn the lesson already. Jerks.
"I am going to be 'Bo' regardless.’’
by Gway22 on Jul 24, 2010 5:27 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
I love this team...
but the way they run it is making me pull away. They are so stupid and incompetent.
by Sean S on Jul 24, 2010 6:14 PM CDT reply actions 4 recs
Rec'd
KB should have retired a Titan. Dumbasses.
by DoofusOfErasmus on Jul 25, 2010 1:59 AM CDT up reply actions
That is no way to treat a man who symbolizes what every football player
should be. The Titan organization should have done everything it could to hold on to him. He represents class and hard work and dedication to this sport.
Should've retired a Titan.
Screw you Bud…
…and you say you want to win a Superbowl..stupid.
by TITANS 'n LAKERS FaN 4 Life on Jul 24, 2010 6:57 PM CDT reply actions
and Reinfeldt/Fisher at that.
by TITANS 'n LAKERS FaN 4 Life on Jul 24, 2010 7:01 PM CDT up reply actions
I think we all saw this coming....
"Sure, luck means a lot in football. Not having a good quarterback is bad luck." - Don Schula
"Pro football is like nuclear warfare. There are no winners, only survivors." - Frank Gifford
Fully expected this
It’s the way pro football goes these days. Watch college if you can’t deal with it, ‘cause it’s gonna happen.
That said, awesome player, great personality, NEVER in any kind of off the field mess. I can’t even remember a single incident. Definitely one of my favorite Titans since they moved here. Looking forward to seeing him next year, even if it’s in the wrong color blue.
This one hurts.
Worst offseason ever continues. I have to admit I’m surprised the TItans didn’t treat Bulluck better, even if they had decided to not bring him back.
I like to put in my three Canadian cents, to account for the conversion.
by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Jul 24, 2010 8:30 PM CDT reply actions
My brother is a huge Giants fan
and when he texted me the news I had the same exact sentiments… This is a sad day
by Big Bad Bulluck on Jul 24, 2010 8:44 PM CDT reply actions
Why Are You Sad?
You should be happy that A) Keith Bulluck is getting a final payday with a Super Bowl contender who is close to where he grew up and B) the Titans can move on from an LB who is 33, has lost a step, and oh yeah is coming off major knee surgery. Look, the defense that the Titans’ designed around Albert Haynesworth and Keith Bulluck is gone, as is the coordinator who ran it. The Titans’ new defense needs faster LBs. Now Bulluck was plenty fast when he was in his prime, but it isn’t 2004 or even 2007 anymore.
As far as retiring in Nashville goes … get real. The guy was a very good player, but not a great one. I know the Titans’ weren’t running a scheme that allowed their LBs to put up big numbers, but the guy has 18 career sacks, 13 of which were from 2003-2005. Sure he was underrated in pass coverage, but still … the guy has only been to one Pro Bowl for a reason. This isn’t a future Hall of Famer we are talking about here, not by a long shot. The Titans have left better players go with a lot more left in them. If Bulluck wanted to retire a Titan, he should have retired after last season. There was no reason not to. He has made his money and then some off two big contracts from the Titans, and he is never going back to the Pro Bowl or going to be able to put up the 3 or 4 great seasons that he needs for the Hall of Fame. Bulluck is either coming back for the money, or because he doesn’t want to give up the game and leave while he is still out on top for the sake of his life after football, which includes his long term health. Blame Bulluck for that, not the Titans. I bash the Titans a lot, but this was a good football decision. They need to move past Bulluck and Thornton with younger players that will give them more, not keep bringing them back.
by Lurking on Jul 24, 2010 8:48 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
"The guy was a very good player, but not a great one."
This statement is false. We’ll look at it from a Titan perspective and an NFL one. Keith Bulluck was one of the greatest Titans ever. He may not have amazing statistics, but Bulluck was a huge piece, if not the most important one, on this defense for the past nine years. It’s pretty apparent to most that Bulluck was vital to this team. From an NFL perspective, I think one of the reasons he didn’t get the recognition others got was because he didn’t stand out sacks and interceptions wise. Ray Lewis, a guy analysts love, has less tackles than Keith Bulluck (since 2001, the year tackles started getting recorded). In fact, Bulluck has actually forced more fumbles than Lewis, and I’ll point out that Ray’s played 4 more years. I looked up DeMarcus Ware’s stats as well, because he’s one of the best OLB’s in the game, whereas obviously Lewis plays ILB. Bulluck had more tackles in his first 5 years as a starter than Ware. Now, Ware definitely out-sacked Keith, but hopefully you see where I’m getting at. Is he a Hall of Famer? Probably not.
I’ll leave you with a quote about Bulluck from Peter King, in a 2008 column:
Not many players in the league do more for their team than Bulluck.
(Source: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/writers/peter_king/09/15/Week2/4.html)
I like to put in my three Canadian cents, to account for the conversion.
by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Jul 24, 2010 9:20 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
I Stand Behind My Statement
Bulluck may have been the most important piece on the Titans defense for the past 9 years, but let’s not pretend as if the Titans’ have been anything close to one of the NFL’s more prominent franchises during that time. So, it’s not the equivalent of being the most important piece to, say, the Colts, Patriots, Eagles or Steelers. And despite what everyone insists on believing, the Titans haven’t been consistently good on defense during that time either.
Now you can go ahead and speculate what Bulluck would have done in a 3-4 defense, or had he been used in the creative ways that Lewis has been. But playing in a 3-4 defense would have meant taking on OLs one-on-one a lot more than he has had to in Tennessee, where the DLs occupy the OLs and allow the LBs to just plug gaps and clean up downfield. And doing Ray Lewis’ role in Baltimore would have meant playing deep zone coverage like a safety, rushing the passer like a DE (not just blitzing but actually being a designated pass rusher) or plugging the middle like a DT depending on the play call. So, where Lewis literally had to make plays all over the field for his defense to work, Bulluck didn’t have to because the Titans’ defense relies more on the DEs and the CBs than the LBs.
So, it is impossible to say that Bulluck would have done what Lewis and Ware (who by the way I am not that high on) did in their defenses because he has never had to. It is easy, meanwhile, to say that Bulluck wasn’t as good in his scheme as were a lot of LBs in his era in theirs, which again is why the guy is not a Hall of Fame candidate and only made the Pro Bowl once.
And no, the Pro Bowl is not nearly the numbers game or popularity contest that you think. Fan votes only make up 1/3. 2/3ds are the players and coaches. Plus, coaches get to pick guys to fill out the team when other guys can’t make it. So, it is the players and coaches who know that Bulluck was not one of the better LBs in the AFC during his era, not just the fans and sportswriters.
The Titans organization let first ballot Hall of Famer Warren Moon go, and he went on to lead Minnesota to several playoff games, including the NFC title game. They let Derrick Mason go, and he has since had 5000 yards and 22 TDs for Baltimore. Losing Bulluck, especially at this point in his career, isn’t nearly the same. If it was, he would have gotten much more than a 1 year deal for $2.5 million.
Anyone that thinks that letting KB go was a good idea is a fool!
I would have just moved KB to middle line backer and that would have completed our LB core! When you have a player like KB you have to respect that he has atleast three great years left in him.
He has always been the number 1 contribitor at linebacker for us and he gets hurt one year and you kick him to the curb. That’s show a lack of respect for our players, and this is not the first time I have seen something like this with this team. KB wanted to stay and retire here and he was pulling his weight just fine there are plenty other unproven guys that could have been let go in his place.
I will hate having KB gone and I pray our linebackers will step up and fill the void I have a lot of faith in McRath and it looks like Curran will be very good. Witherspoon might be able to fill the leadership role also.
And you really shouldn’t mention that he’s 33 because look at Ray Lewis does he look like he’s declining? I think not!
by datboybevans on Jul 25, 2010 12:51 AM CDT up reply actions
You must not have watched many games
while Bulluck was here if you don’t think he was a great player. I know the sack numbers aren’t there, but he was never in a defense that was built around him getting sacks. To use that he only went to one Pro Bowl as an excuse for him not being great is just ignorant. The fans vote on that stuff, and every year the LBs that go to the Pro Bowl are the ones with the most sacks. Since Bulluck wasn’t in a 3-4 defense or a defense that blitzed he was ignored for the Pro Bowl every year.
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by Jimmy on Jul 24, 2010 10:14 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Another Swing And A Miss
“The fans vote on that stuff, and every year the LBs that go to the Pro Bowl are the ones with the most sacks. "
Wrong. The fan vote is only 1/3. The player vote and the coaches vote is 2/3, plus coaches get to autocratically choose a certain number of whoever they want. Really, the “he wasn’t in a 3-4 defense!” thing is a canard, because for the longest time the Steelers and Chiefs were the only teams running the 3-4 full time. Even now, only like a fourth of the teams in the NFL run a 3-4 base defense, and that includes several teams like Kansas City, Denver and Washington who just adopted it the last couple of seasons. (Last year, no one in the AFC South, NFC South or NFC North ran the 3-4, and only one NFC East and NFC West team did.) The Colts don’t run the 4-3, and they send LBs to the Pro Bowl all the time.
I am not using his lack of Pro Bowls as an excuse. I saw the guy play, and saw a good player, not a great one.
And how many players and coaches
do the Titans play each year before the voting? They don’t have time to watch other games, so they do what most of the fans do and vote for the guys with the best numbers. The Titans made the AFC Championship game in the 2002 season and didn’t have a single Pro Bowler. Those games are all about names, numbers and markets.
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Everyone knows that....
The Pro Bowl is based mainly on favortism! Quality players rarely make it, it’s mostly always the players that make themselves seem on the field. Most Ints,Sacks,Forced Fumbles and such things like that. People don’t care if you were a good pass coverage LB or if you had a lot of tackles. They want the most excited playing to play in the most exciting game how come you think they have those crazy rules for the Pro Bowl? Because it’s just for show!
by datboybevans on Jul 25, 2010 12:59 AM CDT up reply actions
huh?
Quality players rarely make it,
Come on. I’m a Bulluck fan but I think you’re reaching when it comes to the Pro Bowl. 80% of the players that make the Pro Bowl deserve to be there. Finnegan and Griffin made it in 2008 but deservedly didn’t make it in 2009. Did the voters get it right?? Yes.
Look at the reason they didn't make it in 09!
Defensive backs always make it according to their Ints as well as Ints returned for touchdown. Other defensive positions mainly go by the fan favorites. Look at the year to year Pro Bowl rosters and then compair the stats to other in the league and you will see that a lot of it is goes on favortism. Players with the most fans are more likely to make it.
by datboybevans on Jul 25, 2010 2:48 PM CDT up reply actions
good luck in w 4
Against den
okay i have cerebral palsy arthris and chronic fatigue as well i have a great life and loveing folks some days are better than other days i got a make-a-wish in 2001 and saw my favorite team the broncos it was the trip of a lifetime i wish everyone couild have gotten to enjoy that with me i know some of u hate the broncos and that okay but i bleed organ and bule for my mnr fans but i bleed orange and blue denver will rise again resident broncos fan for every blog resident broncos for stampede bule thanks shvd98z24 real name jeremy woodard nettleton high class of 02 yes i am a raider
and i am sad but happy too
noone plays the whouile carrer with 1 team going to the NFC IS BETTER because u will just paly him once in stead of twice
okay i have cerebral palsy arthris and chronic fatigue as well i have a great life and loveing folks some days are better than other days i got a make-a-wish in 2001 and saw my favorite team the broncos it was the trip of a lifetime i wish everyone couild have gotten to enjoy that with me i know some of u hate the broncos and that okay but i bleed organ and bule for my mnr fans but i bleed orange and blue denver will rise again resident broncos fan for every blog resident broncos for stampede bule thanks shvd98z24 real name jeremy woodard nettleton high class of 02 yes i am a raider
what................. are you kiding me keith .....!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
also understand that it is a business, but that just isn’t how you treat a guy that has been the face of the franchise for a decade. I guess it was silly for me to expect anything else though.
i guess he must of forgot all the millions of dollars he made as a oiler / titan ….that doesnt count for anything ……not like he played for free ….last time i checked he wasnt playing for free …and how many years did you play for the titans ? 10 years i guess we werent that bad keith or you would of been gone 5 years ago ….you got hurt and your gonna be out for a while we need healthy guys right now not more injured ones …sorry keith ,i love you as a player and you gave your heart and soul for this team thanx i will hold on to those memories ………you and steve,and eddie are what titans are all about as players …but like steve ,and eddie, they all thought they could play longer and for a billion dollars ….. but really guy ….dont hold the team hostage because you want a big payday and your injured …we just cant take that chance on you right now at this point in your nfl life ….the titans did you a favor and didnt sign you so you can you out and get your next big pay day it just wont be with us ……its bad timming with your inj …but dont trash the team for not signing you …because you are a…… BIG RISK THEY CANT TAKE.and for those who wanted him signed here you would be the same people who would kill him for being to slow this year not being able to play …i see peter sirmon …he came back and got hammered by the fans ……i would rather remember him playing great here than to watch him play bad and get treated like shit by the fans when he doesnt produce … ..god bless keith also wish you well come back and retire as a titan when its all said and done …
agree with this, but I hate it
tough offseason.
holding the team hostage?
of course there was a lot of rhetoric at the end of last season, but if you look at the contract he signed (1 yr, $2.5million) i hardly call that holding a team hostage. it was very evident during last season that he wasnt coming back. the knee injury just gives the FO a “pass” for not re_signing him. the way i look at it, $2.5 million for an uncapped year is a risk i would have been willing to take given the intangibles KB53 brings to table. has he lost a step? yes (maybe 2). knee injury a risk? yes, of course it is. but $2.5 million on a one year deal is something def worth offering. they didnt even reach out to him. we’re gonna miss him even tho this is not unexpected. at least he is in the nfc and didnt go to colts or texans.
by NJ Titans Fan on Jul 26, 2010 7:25 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Booooooooo
The way this organization is run makes me sick. It;s absolutely pathetic. I’ve loved Keith Bullock since i was fortunate enough to watch him in college at the dome. Good luck to him, but this organization is seriously clueless. I feel like the tampa bucs every offseason. I’ve never seen a team so pathetic at handling the treatment of the players that were the foundation of their team. This FO drops more balls than hands washington.
by z24lax on Jul 24, 2010 10:21 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Nice
"It's making my head spin from all the activities we can do!"
by jaketitan427 on Jul 24, 2010 10:59 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
no way i'm going to rename my son Will
i knew this news would come someday so I was able to accept it right away. i’m actually pretty happy to see he’s going to the team he wants to play with and where he feels he is appreciated.
Time will tell if the Titans made the right decision but I sincerely hope Bulluck plays well the rest of his career. But when WK3 comes I will hope our OL and CJ bangs him around.
sucks to hear but not surprising.
even before the injury it never felt like the Titans were gonna try and resign him. him getting injured just gave them a great excuse not to.
Sad day....
KB was a great player, better leader, & all around good dude.
We had talked a few times on Twitter. I told him I was driving down for Cards game & asked if I could have his gloves after game. The following Mon, he sent me a tweet saying he was sorry he didnt find me after the game, he had those gloves for me. I never expected to hear from him, let alone him remember me asking, or being willing to give them to me. When I told him that, he said to send a self addressed envelope to BSP, I did, now I own his XXXXL red gloves, autographed, gameworn!!
He didnt have to do that. He didnt have to bother writing me back, or even still, remembering me after that game….But he did. Because he is a class act.
Best of luck to him. Thanks for 10 great years….
Very, very sad.
Ain't no time for hesitatin'
All you got to do is groove
by BonzosMontreaux on Jul 24, 2010 11:23 PM CDT reply actions
POR QUEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!??!?!
REAL SOVIET DAMAGE!!!!!
by SouthTexasTitan on Jul 24, 2010 11:45 PM CDT reply actions
NO SEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!
I think the Titans Organization made up their minds the moment KB got injured.
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BASTARDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11111111111111111111
AHHHHHHHHHHHH….. TODAY FORTH WILL BE ANGRY CAPS LOCK DAY…. BOOK IT!
REAL SOVIET DAMAGE!!!!!
by SouthTexasTitan on Jul 24, 2010 11:56 PM CDT up reply actions
You are all silly fools!
You know this team’s m.o. I love me some Keith Bullock as much as anybody, but that’s how the titans operate. they’ve been talking about getting younger since last season ended.
Best wishes to Mr. Monday Night!
plus, KB gets to return to his home state
i’m happy for Keith. he’s a great guy, and he’s led our team(not just the defense) throughout the high highs and the very low lows(aka the pacman era). he’s had an outstanding career and deserves this homecoming. its gonna be weird to play against him, but i’ld rather him end up in new york than some other place, say dallas, washington, indy, new england, baltimore, pittsburg, pretty much anywhere else.
TELL ME HOW IM SUPPOSED TO LIVE WITHOUT YOU!!!
REAL SOVIET DAMAGE!!!!!
by SouthTexasTitan on Jul 25, 2010 10:57 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
I just realized how well this song fits
REAL SOVIET DAMAGE!!!!!
by SouthTexasTitan on Jul 25, 2010 10:58 AM CDT up reply actions
This is sad to hear. Bulluck was a true Titan.
I’m really upset he’s gone, but I’m more upset at the way he is treated. Seems to me we are going through a rebuilding phase do I understand why he wasn’t signed. I just wish it was handlled with more class and appreciation.
by Los Blancos Chicca on Jul 25, 2010 11:06 AM CDT via mobile reply actions
Typo
*so I understand
by Los Blancos Chicca on Jul 25, 2010 11:07 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
"The guy was a very good player, but not a great one."
That is possibly one of the most ridiculous statements I’ve ever read… LoL Hilarious… I’m not even gonna bother getting into a debate over this. If you don’t think he was a great player you know absolute dick about football
by Big Bad Bulluck on Jul 25, 2010 2:07 PM CDT reply actions
And didn't see our defense after he went out last year.
I am with BBB. Keith Bulluck was nothing short of great. On and off of the field. And there is no argument to the contrary.
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Mentions of KB and Kiffin all in one article in the NYT.
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/25/sports/football/25giants.html?_r=1&src=mv
by rwinston on Jul 25, 2010 2:44 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
Not Surprised at all...
We all had to see it coming, but yes….it is sad to see him go. He was drafted the year after the Super Bowl run and has been a steady leader and professional ever since. I hate it that his knee injury is keeping him from getting an even bigger pay day. I honestly don’t think he’ll be nearly as productive as he once was, but I am going to miss him being in a Titans uniform. It’s hard to keep a player in the same franchise their entire career these days, this is just another example of that.
Gonna go ahead and go on record saying I'm okay with the decision
I’m always much happier with letting a player go a year too early than a year too late. With the knee injury, one just never knows.
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by T--Rac's Posse on Jul 25, 2010 11:10 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
from what KB said on 104.5
it seems like the Titans had given up on him about 90% by midway through last season and the knee injury was the nail in the coffin.
FWIW, the Titans were far from the only team that doubted how much he has left in the tank.
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i am ok with this aswell…..the titans seem to know when to break ties with players….the only player over the years who actually has done well since leaving the oilers/titans is Mason…..am i wrong?
GOOD FOR KIETH!!!!!!!!!
The titians, just lost my vote………………….
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