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Tennessee_titans_30x21 LenDale said what he's been saying nicely for months now ('I'd rather not spend the prime of my career in a back-up role'), and somehow that's shocking to some folks. LenDale is a back with a lot of talent and some valuable skills: he rushed for 1,1000 yards the only time he ever carried the bulk of the load, and he totaled 27 touchdowns over 2008 and 2007. His career rushing average is a not-terribly impressive 3.7 (not 3.5, you illiterate numbskull), but who knows what it would be if he didn't spend half of his career here as a short-yaradge specialist. All I'm saying is that I can definitely understand why LenDale would really like to be traded-and I have no problem with him making that known-but if it doesn't happen he better show up to camp in shape and grateful he's in the NFL.

Tennessee_titans_30x21 Jason Babin is in town auditioning for the Titans' vacant token-white boy* position along the defensive line. I officially have no opinion either way on this potential signing.  It's a depth signing with a 2% chance of the man playing better for us than any of his other stops in the league. Yeah he was a 1st round pick, but he was a 1st round pick of the first Texans' regime, so I wouldn't brag too much on that. (*- Turns our he's actually hispanic. I see no reason to apologize.)

Follow us through the jump for jokes at the expense of the Steelers' rapey-QB...

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Tennessee_titans_30x21 Ben Roethlisberger hired the same lawyer who defended Ray Lewis, figuring that he is probably skilled at building a defense for illegal penetration.  Can we all pretty much agree that at this point Big Ben is a rapist, or needs to invest in hiding a bunch of tiny cameras on him at all times?

Tennessee_titans_30x21 Wes Bunting says that, even more so than most years, the best combine performers don't have the game film to back-up their sterling measurable.  A lot of these guys are work-out wonders who lack the techniques and instincts it takes 99% of players to make a career in the NFL.

Tennessee_titans_30x21 The Texans jettisoned the highest-rated CB on the market, and are now courting the second best one available, Leigh Bodden.  I can't help it: every time I hear his name I think of Children of Bodom.

 

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"Ben Roethlisberger hired the same lawyer who defended Ray Lewis"

So this is how we know he is guilty.

And how we know he will not face any punishment.

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by gramsey712 on Mar 8, 2010 8:45 AM CST reply actions  

Ray Lewis was guilty?

Could’ve fooled me. Who knew that not killing anyone makes one guilty of murder?

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by burntorangehorn on Mar 8, 2010 10:38 AM CST up reply actions  

Apparently someone forgot to pay attention to the version told by every eyewitness account.

You know, the version that said that Ray Lewis didn’t actually kill anyone. He was almost certainly involved in the incident at some level, but there’s zero evidence to support the theory that he killed anyone, let alone committed murder as charged.

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by burntorangehorn on Mar 8, 2010 10:51 AM CST up reply actions  

Why?

Because he rolled? And “ratted out” his “posse?” So not only is he a liar, and most likely a murderer, but he is a coward who would not admit what his involvement was.

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by gramsey712 on Mar 8, 2010 10:53 AM CST up reply actions  

He's not the only one who gave testimony

Numerous others did as well, and none indicated that Ray Lewis killed anyone. It’s pretty obvious you’ve latched on to allegations as fact, when you have no facts to support your belief that Ray Lewis murdered someone.

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by burntorangehorn on Mar 8, 2010 11:23 AM CST up reply actions  

looks like you're confusing the difference between 'court testimony' and 'fact'

Sometimes common sense trumps both. I’m not saying Ray should be in jail; he wasn’t convicted. But that doesn’t observers have to ignore common sense.

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by August West on Mar 8, 2010 11:29 AM CST up reply actions  

Right

But I guess all I’m saying is that gramsey seems to only have speculation in his corner. Factoring common sense along with everything else, there’s still nothing but speculation that Ray Lewis murdered anyone, and speculation that is contradicted by every single testimony given to police doesn’t seem to be a strong case.

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by burntorangehorn on Mar 8, 2010 11:54 AM CST up reply actions  

Well it's not like he shot someone in a premeditated act

like Marvin Harrison.

/yeah I said it.

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by August West on Mar 8, 2010 12:08 PM CST up reply actions  

BOOM!

smash will say not to talk about Harrison like that.

Since he loves bbs and stuff.

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by gramsey712 on Mar 8, 2010 12:11 PM CST up reply actions  

Show some evidence

Saying it doesn’t make it any more true. Supporting evidence would bolster your case, but of course you don’t have any.

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by burntorangehorn on Mar 8, 2010 12:22 PM CST up reply actions  

I have that he WAS actually charged, but they were dropped

So your facts are wrong, for starters. Furthermore, you’re ignoring the fact that Georgia has fairly unique criminal procedure laws that allow police to charge a person with murder if that person was in any way involved, even if they do not actually believe or have reason to suspect that the person contributed to a murder. Did you miss that part?

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by burntorangehorn on Mar 8, 2010 12:33 PM CST up reply actions  

Yep, I missed it. Probably cause I didn't care.

Ray Lewis is a murderer. You can’t change my mind. Why are you here trying?

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by gramsey712 on Mar 8, 2010 12:34 PM CST up reply actions  

So they did charge him

And then dropped the charges in exchange for his testimony.

Looks even better for my argument.

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by gramsey712 on Mar 8, 2010 12:35 PM CST up reply actions  

No, it doesn't

Not unless one has zero understanding of criminal procedure, which is apparently your case.

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by burntorangehorn on Mar 8, 2010 12:57 PM CST up reply actions  

Obviously you do care.

And if your mind cannot be changed, you ought not bother even having one. Those who say their minds cannot be changed, no matter the evidence, are usually the biggest morons of all. I’m not saying you’re one of those, because that would be a personal attack, but it would be consistent with what is normally the case with people who say that.

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by burntorangehorn on Mar 8, 2010 1:01 PM CST up reply actions  

It's not really that unique

it’s a caveat most states with anything resembling a gang problem have.

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by August West on Mar 8, 2010 12:36 PM CST up reply actions  

why dont you go to the ravens website??

their whole team is convicts. noone cares about Ray Lewis. He was guilty…… now go show your manlove on the Ravens blog.

by ibleedtitansblue on Mar 8, 2010 12:47 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm not a Ravens fan, genius

I’m a Chiefs fan. And you’re one to talk. Remember Pacman?

As for no one caring about Ray Lewis, it’s obvious that some do. If you don’t believe me, why don’t you read this thread? gramsey made a dumb statement for which he/she has zero supporting evidence, and has done what those without evidence do: ignoring the facts and saying that he/she won’t change his/her mind no matter what.

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by burntorangehorn on Mar 8, 2010 1:00 PM CST up reply actions  

So I can't give my opinion without some holier than thou Chiefs fan butting in?

I don’t care about the sweetheart deal that the conniving, thieving lawyers who were being paid by the millionaire NFL player worked out. He was involved in the murder of two men. Two men who were murdered in cold blood. And “all of the sudden” all of the people who were “friends” of the millionaire NFL player and who all were standing right there when the crime was committed don’t have any recollection of what happened.

Maybe the real moron is the one who continues to believe in a broke judicial system when common sense shows that he was guilty as hell. And I am not saying " I’m not saying you’re one of those" because that would be a lie.

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by gramsey712 on Mar 8, 2010 1:15 PM CST up reply actions  

A "broke" judicial system isn't the problem

It’s people who believe that arrestees are guilty until proven innocent, which seems to be the case here.

And "all of the sudden" all of the people who were "friends" of the millionaire NFL player and who all were standing right there when the crime was committed don’t have any recollection of what happened.

Here you’re completely distorting the facts. When did this happen? Actually, you’re not distorting the facts; you’re making this part up. There wasn’t an “I can’t recollect” theme to the testimonies.

Moderator: thanks for the warning, but obviously you have to understand that letting someone get away with slander is worse than anything you’re misconstruing as a personal attack. Sheesh.

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by burntorangehorn on Mar 8, 2010 1:29 PM CST up reply actions  

It was me who warned you

You come to our house, you play by our rules

I just love the naivety. I don’t have time to do proper research, but this is the quote from wikipedia:

Lewis’s attorney arranged for the murder charges against Lewis to be dropped in exchange for his testimony against Oakley and Sweeting, and a guilty plea to a misdemeanor charge of obstruction of justice

And my favorite, because this is always done by innocent people who have nothing to hide:

On April 29, 2004, Lewis reached a settlement with four-year-old India Lollar, born months after the death of her father Richard, preempting a scheduled civil proceeding. Lewis also reached an undisclosed settlement with Baker’s family

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by gramsey712 on Mar 8, 2010 1:36 PM CST up reply actions  

So sad when such people are allowed to moderate

Obviously you don’t understand the legal system at all. There’s such as thing as forebearance of suit, which is what happened with India Lollar, and standard over-charging, which is what happened when Lewis was charged with murder. That’s all I have to say.

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by burntorangehorn on Mar 8, 2010 1:43 PM CST up reply actions  

Jealousy does not become you

It sounds like you work in “the legal system.” And you are right. I don’t understand the legal system. Because luckily I have never had to be in “the legal system.” But I tell you this, if I was wrongly accused of something, I would be proclaiming my innocence from the mountain tops. And I would not give false testimony against someone just to get false charges dropped. And I damn sure wouldn’t pay someone off until I was convicted of doing something wrong.

So my opinion is that Ray Lewis is a murderer. And you have presented no evidence to change my mind.

Your opinion is that he is not. And that may be true. But he sure looks damn guilty to everybody else.

This was a fun worthless conversation.

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by gramsey712 on Mar 8, 2010 2:03 PM CST up reply actions  

agree on the worthless part

Please hurry draft day(or 3 days)!

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by DonFrancisco on Mar 8, 2010 2:05 PM CST up reply actions  

I will say this

It is the court’s job including the jury to assume innocence. Gramsey is neither a member of the court nor of the jury. He can assume all the innocence or guilt he wants to.

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by DonFrancisco on Mar 8, 2010 2:07 PM CST up reply actions  

It's pretty worthless when one person refuses to reason

And he doesn’t look guilty to everybody else. He looks guilty to a few who have only casual knowledge of the conversation.

I don’t work in the legal system. I’m through with law school, but don’t work in the field because I had no desire to start at the bottom rung (read: “take a pay cut after law school”). Heh.

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by burntorangehorn on Mar 8, 2010 2:11 PM CST up reply actions  

I am not refusing to reason

I reason that he looks guilty as hell. That is my reasoning. Every action he has taken has made him look guilty of something. Every one. I am not irrational. Ray Lewis has not given me any reason to think he is innocent.

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by gramsey712 on Mar 8, 2010 2:14 PM CST up reply actions  

He looks pretty guilty, dude.

Gramsey is far from the only one who thinks so.

The fact that he suffered no legal repercussions for it doesn’t mean he is completely blameless.

by hartley on Mar 8, 2010 2:30 PM CST up reply actions  

He did suffer legal repercussions

He pled guilty to obstruction of justice, of which he was certainly guilty. But there is no evidence that he is guilty of murder.

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by burntorangehorn on Mar 8, 2010 2:32 PM CST up reply actions  

you are one of those guys

who doesn’t realize there is a difference between what can be proven beyond a reasonable doubt in a court of law and reality.

go to the colts blog. join the marvin harrison is a saint circle jerk. you will fit in perfectly.

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by hal41605 on Mar 8, 2010 2:42 PM CST up reply actions  

It is so good to have you back hal

Oh, how I have missed you so

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by gramsey712 on Mar 8, 2010 2:44 PM CST up reply actions  

Now if we can just get Posse involved

We will have the band back together

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by gramsey712 on Mar 8, 2010 2:45 PM CST up reply actions  

whats up with posse?

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by hal41605 on Mar 8, 2010 2:48 PM CST up reply actions  

I realize there's a difference

And what you apparently don’t realize is that there wasn’t even reasonable doubt that Ray Lewis did not commit murder. The sole testimony that contradicted every other testimony—and that includes people on both sides of the fight, and lots of uninvolved bystanders—was a convicted grifter.

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by burntorangehorn on Mar 8, 2010 2:47 PM CST up reply actions  

right

because the rich and powerful are never able to affect testimony and obstruct justice. oh wait, he admitted to that….

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by hal41605 on Mar 8, 2010 2:49 PM CST up reply actions  

He admitted that he lied in the first police interview

Which was, in fact, the obstruction of justice.

Just because the rich and powerful, or even the non-rich and non-powerful, are able to affect testimony and obstruct justice does not mean that a rich and powerful person who was co-located with murder actually committed the murder. That’s especially true when the overwhelming majority of witnesses, none of whom had any reason to falsely exonerate Ray Lewis, said that he did not kill anyone.

It’s apparent that some people just want to believe it because they want it to be true. I don’t have a dog in this fight at all. I’m just contradicting a myth.

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by burntorangehorn on Mar 8, 2010 2:55 PM CST up reply actions  

no

you’re just being obnoxious. you claiming that he is not a murderer is no more or less accurate than gramsey’s statement that he is.

you can’t prove a non event. all you can prove is that the DA didn’t have enough evidence to charge ray ray, and thus thought his testimony was more valuable than making him a suspect.

the two men charged w/ murder, whom ray ray flipped on, were acquitted. no one else was ever charged. so i guess that means those two guys were never murdered, right?

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by hal41605 on Mar 8, 2010 3:04 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

My claim is at least backed by the dropped charges

If the charges had had any substance to them, there’s no way the police would’ve dropped them. They might have been reduced, but only to a lesser degree of murder (probably third) or manslaughter.

As for the acquittal of those other two men, well, the intelligence of a jury should never be taken for granted. The district attorney pursued the charges against the other two men because unlike Lewis, they were implicated in the deaths by testimony.

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by burntorangehorn on Mar 8, 2010 3:18 PM CST up reply actions  

we agree on the lack of evidence

implicating ray lewis beyond a reasonable doubt.

however, you implying that this somehow exonerates ray lewis is where you go wrong. evidence and credible, willing witnesses are always tough to come by in street crimes, especially when someone with big money and a high profile are involved. those evidentiary circumstances have no bearing on what actually occurred though.

time to move on.

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by hal41605 on Mar 8, 2010 3:27 PM CST up reply actions  

police don't "drop" charges

They investigate crimes. The attorney for the government files and drops charges.

Not UT Law, surely??

by joshuaboone on Mar 8, 2010 7:54 PM CST up reply actions  

So I guess that means those two guys were never murdered

Probably the most sound reasoning of this whole argument.

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by TNTitans on Mar 8, 2010 4:55 PM CST up reply actions  

i agree with hal....

time to move on…….

Next…..(maybe some actual football talk?)

by NJ Titans Fan on Mar 8, 2010 5:44 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Why are you here??

Last I checked, this is a TITANS site . So go back to your little corner and think about how your team is going to lose their band once again because their drumber boy is still pissed at cj for beating up your drumbs.

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by jaketitan427 on Mar 8, 2010 2:12 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

I'm here because I come to talk about the Titans

Don’t blame me for gramsey’s decision to go off the reservation. I just called him/her out on a fallacy.

And I’m not sure what a “drumb” is, but I’m sure you’ll tell me.

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by burntorangehorn on Mar 8, 2010 2:33 PM CST up reply actions  

Your first comment today:

Ray Lewis was guilty? Could’ve fooled me. Who knew that not killing anyone makes one guilty of murder?

Not about the Titans.

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by gramsey712 on Mar 8, 2010 2:39 PM CST up reply actions  

Of course you omit YOUR comment

To which I was responding, of course.

This tangent was your doing, and you darn well know it.

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by burntorangehorn on Mar 8, 2010 2:44 PM CST up reply actions  

Semantics!

My original comment was actually about Rapelisberger. (Preparing for the deriding conversation about how he is innocent) and you came over here to talk Titans. So how did we get to the Ray Lewis discussion?

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by gramsey712 on Mar 8, 2010 2:48 PM CST up reply actions  

I have no idea about Roethlisberger

We came to the Ray Lewis discussion because you said that we know Roethlisberger is guilty by the lawyer he retained. That is, the lawyer who previously represented Ray Lewis.

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by burntorangehorn on Mar 8, 2010 2:49 PM CST up reply actions  

I thought you came to talk Titans?

And I stand by my statement.

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by gramsey712 on Mar 8, 2010 2:54 PM CST up reply actions  

I did

I clicked over because of the title of this thread, enjoyed the part about LenDale, etc.

And I usually do talk Titans when I’m on here. Check my posting history on this particular team blog.

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by burntorangehorn on Mar 8, 2010 2:56 PM CST up reply actions  

Oh, and Pacman was guilty as hell.

That has nothing to do with Ray Lewis.

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by gramsey712 on Mar 8, 2010 1:17 PM CST up reply actions  

Obviously he doesn't

But neither does OJ Simpson, yet he came up in conversation.

Moderator: thanks for the warning. Sheesh. Thin skins.

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by burntorangehorn on Mar 8, 2010 1:26 PM CST up reply actions  

Gramsey is our official hater.

Still, his hatin’ is pretty G.

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by August West on Mar 8, 2010 1:38 PM CST up reply actions  

wow the chiefs are terrible

i would have said i was a ravens fan. you should be embarassed……. sorry. why dont you go to the chiefs website?no one on here defending pacman. you should be worried if KC is going to win A game next year

by ibleedtitansblue on Mar 8, 2010 5:06 PM CST up reply actions  

What kind of sense does that make?

OJ and Ray Lewis are two completely unrelated people in completely different circumstances. For starters, there were dozens of eyewitnesses in Ray Lewis’ circumstances, while there was apparently only one eyewitness who survived the murders of Simpson and Goldman.

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by burntorangehorn on Mar 8, 2010 12:21 PM CST up reply actions  

hey, they were all acquitted (even the two cohorts Ray snitched on)

so I guess nobody ‘murdered’ the two guys who were stabbed and beaten to death in a crowded bar.

/leagal’d

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by August West on Mar 8, 2010 11:13 AM CST up reply actions  

I've never understood the anti-snitching mentality

All it does is facilitate crime.

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by burntorangehorn on Mar 8, 2010 11:22 AM CST up reply actions  

agreed.

but it goes back to the beginning of crime. Omerta isn’t any classier just because it’s in a foreign language or the title of a great Mario Puzo novel.

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by August West on Mar 8, 2010 11:27 AM CST up reply actions  

Ah, what a nice book

I know the movies are classics, but I wish they had stuck a little more closely to the novel.

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by burntorangehorn on Mar 8, 2010 11:52 AM CST up reply actions  

I can do wheelin'

And I can do dealin’
But I don’t do no damn squealin’

//have not problem with snitching if the snitchee has it coming
//great song, though

by numbertenox on Mar 8, 2010 11:23 AM CST up reply actions  

And also

Smash is now a BBS fan. Now his fandom goes BBS first, hockey second and Titans football third.

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by Jimmy on Mar 8, 2010 8:46 AM CST reply actions  

smash loves BBS

like Don Francisco loves Brenda Warner

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by gramsey712 on Mar 8, 2010 9:01 AM CST up reply actions  

smash loves BBS unconditionally?

b/c that is how I feel about Brenda

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by DonFrancisco on Mar 8, 2010 9:07 AM CST up reply actions  

lol don remind us again

why do you love Brenda Warner

There are no weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, Chris Johnson lives in Florida.

by SouthTexasTitan on Mar 8, 2010 9:09 AM CST up reply actions  

shes not a couger shes a sabretooth tiger

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by SouthTexasTitan on Mar 8, 2010 9:14 AM CST up reply actions  

and i swear Javon is going to be a better power back than LenDale

if he gets the calls. he has the vision chris henry should of had, then again this is what i have seen from him so far.

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by SouthTexasTitan on Mar 8, 2010 9:13 AM CST reply actions  

Hispanic people can be black or white

It’s an ethnicity, not a race (see: David Ortiz vs. Cameron Diaz).

So no, you have no reason to apologize.

by TNTitans on Mar 8, 2010 9:14 AM CST reply actions  

VIVA LA RAZA!

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by SouthTexasTitan on Mar 8, 2010 9:15 AM CST up reply actions  

and TN is right

now if you had said mexicans or cubans that would have been a different story

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by SouthTexasTitan on Mar 8, 2010 9:16 AM CST up reply actions  

I wouldn't say Roethlisberger is a rapist (yet)

But I would say he’s obviously a sleezebag who doesn’t wait for the woman to make the first move.

by T--Rac's Posse on Mar 8, 2010 11:49 AM CST reply actions  

agreed that's early to call him that

but how many innocent guys you see get two false sexual assault charges on them within a year?

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by August West on Mar 8, 2010 11:51 AM CST up reply actions  

The first one

Could cause the second one, what if this one is false too? The woman could have seen the first one as an opportunity to try it herself thinking others would think what August said.

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by crazylegs28 on Mar 8, 2010 11:52 AM CST up reply actions  

If this is true, that both are false

Then it means, at best, Ben Roethsliberger is having one night stands with the type of women who try to accuse celebrities of sexual harassment to make money and get attention. That alone shows atrociously bad judgement. And this is the best case scenario.

by T--Rac's Posse on Mar 8, 2010 11:54 AM CST up reply actions  

O I agree completely

But having trashy no strings attached sex is still better than forcing someone.

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by crazylegs28 on Mar 8, 2010 12:00 PM CST up reply actions  

Absolutely agreed on that

Where there is smoke, there is fire. Fat Ben obviously has a few issues with women

by T--Rac's Posse on Mar 8, 2010 11:52 AM CST up reply actions  

DE BABIN

I like the DE Depth help, but is anyone really shocked seeing our FO sign these C Players that “Most NFL Fans” haven’t heard of. Does this mean I may get my wish of seeing a OLB, CB, S get drafted by the #16 pick?

How hard can this be for our FO to Sign Scaife, Bulluck, & draft Earl Thomas. Since our FO is not wanting any big names in Free agency; I’m sure there will be plenty of DE’s available in the third & fourth round on day 2….

by titanwarrior1 on Mar 8, 2010 12:16 PM CST reply actions  

giving up on our safeties already?

he could be faster than CJ and hit like Ronnie Lott and he’d still be screwed with the front 7 and CB depth we have on the roster today. He’s a really good player, but I just can’t see a 1st round safety for us this year.

Did he ever play CB at Texas? I know Griff was both there, and almost played CB for us when we drafted him.

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by August West on Mar 8, 2010 12:20 PM CST up reply actions  

Never played corner

He probably could play corner passably… he was better in coverage than Griff and certainly breaks on balls quickly at safety, FWIW.

The thing with Thomas at FS is you can move Griffin to SS and you’re better in coverage at both positions. Of course, I’m assuming Griff plays to his abilities and is better than Hope (as he should be). In a division with Manning and Schaub and the needs of the team, the pick has to be a pass rusher or DB. Corner is the obvious hole, but I think you have to draft for “most impactful defender against the pass” at that spot. I’m not really sold on any of these DEs and think Thomas looks like the best bet for shoring up the secondary (I haven’t seen much of the corners except Haden).

by WC22 on Mar 8, 2010 1:17 PM CST up reply actions  

With KVB gone, and Bulluck a question mark

Hope could be our new senior leader on D, so I doubt he goes anywhere. I have to assume that last year was an anomaly for Griff.

DE and CB, with an outside shot at LB have to be the way we go, unless they pull a stunner (which would be on course for the past few years).

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by August West on Mar 8, 2010 1:37 PM CST up reply actions  

If Hope stays....

he better not play like a big PUSSY!!!!!

by titansfan4ever on Mar 8, 2010 2:25 PM CST up reply actions  

Not sure what "senior leader" means in the NFL

Continuity is great, but the team needs to do what’s best for improving the worst pass defense in the league (Detroit has been relegated in my mind). Hope was never a ballhawk and I don’t think his speculative “leadership” ability changes much. If a CB is the guy that improves the pass D the most, then sign him up; if Thomas is enough of an upgrade over Hope, then he should be the guy.

For me the appeal of Thomas is an AFC with Manning, Rivers and his weapons, Flacco and his new arsenal, Schaub and AJ, Brady and Manning, Roethlisberger and his WRs, etc. QBs torched the NFL in 2009 and I think Thomas’ elite coverage skills make him more attractive when viewed in that context.

by WC22 on Mar 8, 2010 4:10 PM CST up reply actions  

from what i understand

rounds 3 and 4 now occur on days 13 and 17 of the draft, respectively.

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by hal41605 on Mar 8, 2010 4:13 PM CST up reply actions  

Message for "Big Ben"

Lets review the facts….Ben likes girls, check!…Ben makes millions of dollars, check!….Ben does NOT have a girlfriend, check!… DUDE!!!…..GET A HOOKER!!!!! Hookers don’t care if you rape them, hell, they’ll let you rape them over and over again, as long as you pay them (which is gonna be a lot less $$ than you’re gonna have to pay THESE chicks to settle out of court.

by titansfan4ever on Mar 8, 2010 2:15 PM CST reply actions  

ahem...

is this thing on? check one two, check one two.

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by hal41605 on Mar 8, 2010 2:23 PM CST reply actions  

been awhile Hal

There are no weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, Chris Johnson lives in Florida.

by SouthTexasTitan on Mar 8, 2010 2:24 PM CST up reply actions  

no joke

it’s a long story, but it’s good to be back at MCM, and on the internet in general.

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by hal41605 on Mar 8, 2010 2:24 PM CST up reply actions  

what did i miss?

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by hal41605 on Mar 8, 2010 2:25 PM CST up reply actions  

do we have a defense yet?

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by hal41605 on Mar 8, 2010 2:25 PM CST up reply actions  

and no

There are no weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, Chris Johnson lives in Florida.

by SouthTexasTitan on Mar 8, 2010 2:26 PM CST up reply actions  

we had a DE visit but the FO has been dragging their feet

looks like we’ll be addressing in the draft

There are no weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, Chris Johnson lives in Florida.

by SouthTexasTitan on Mar 8, 2010 2:27 PM CST up reply actions  

im shocked

SHAWKED i tell you!

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by hal41605 on Mar 8, 2010 2:29 PM CST up reply actions  

we resigned amano

for like 5 years 28 mil

There are no weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, Chris Johnson lives in Florida.

by SouthTexasTitan on Mar 8, 2010 2:30 PM CST up reply actions  

same ol same ol

There are no weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, Chris Johnson lives in Florida.

by SouthTexasTitan on Mar 8, 2010 2:26 PM CST up reply actions  

THE PRODIGAL SON

Official MCM Hater!

Fire Jeff Fisher.

by gramsey712 on Mar 8, 2010 2:26 PM CST up reply actions  

where is my fatted calf?

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by hal41605 on Mar 8, 2010 2:27 PM CST up reply actions  

Big Ben is screwing it.

by titansfan4ever on Mar 8, 2010 2:27 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

AHAHAHA

There are no weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, Chris Johnson lives in Florida.

by SouthTexasTitan on Mar 8, 2010 2:28 PM CST up reply actions  

Alge is still here

I’m an early bird and a night owl. So I’m wise and I have worms.

by DonFrancisco on Mar 8, 2010 2:28 PM CST up reply actions  

lendale white

god forrbid something happen to CJ lendale would be our proven back and we know he could carry the load the offense might change but we would at least know he could run the ball.. theres prbly more tear on CJ than lendale now.. he prbly coulkd still run after we run cj to the ground.

by TattedTI on Mar 8, 2010 2:54 PM CST reply actions  

bottom line

the smart move is to get lendale more touches. cj ain’t gonna last long if he has too many more seasons like this last one. it’s just a fact. every RB on has a certain number of miles they can take, and then they are trash. see: tomlinson, ladainian. CJ2K was magical, but it’s over, and if he wants to make it to his 2nd contract with his legs still intact, we need someone else to take some of the carries.

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by hal41605 on Mar 8, 2010 3:14 PM CST up reply actions  

We have someone to take some of the carries

Its called a passing game. It started to grow at the end of the season.

Ain't no time for hesitatin'
All you got to do is groove

by BonzosMontreaux on Mar 8, 2010 3:20 PM CST up reply actions  

fair enough

i think ringer has skills too. im all for getting a draft pick for LDW if it’s on the table as well. i just think there is plenty of room for lendale to get some carries as well if they decide to keep him.

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by hal41605 on Mar 8, 2010 3:40 PM CST up reply actions  

Especially against the fat humps

He is perfect for running against the fat humps

Official MCM Hater!

Fire Jeff Fisher.

by gramsey712 on Mar 8, 2010 3:48 PM CST up reply actions  

Oh yeah i don't mind LenDale staying.

I’m just saying CJ can be a feature back and as long as we can pass it he can still only get 20 carries a game.

Ain't no time for hesitatin'
All you got to do is groove

by BonzosMontreaux on Mar 8, 2010 4:08 PM CST up reply actions  

It's also the head-scratchers

like running CJ on 4th and Goal from the 1, you know? The end zone is the one place you can still hit someone after the play. Let LW pick up that yard

by joshuaboone on Mar 8, 2010 8:04 PM CST up reply actions  

Lendale couldn't pick up "that one yard".

I’m a life long oilers/titans fan, but I really don’t like Lendale. He is the most overrated “short yardage/ power back” this team has ever had. If we could get a 3 or 4 for him, I’d be extraordinarily excited. If we got a 7th and a couple free hats from someone, I’d still be pretty happy.

by slo-verado on Mar 8, 2010 10:40 PM CST up reply actions  

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