NFL Free Agency Open Thread
by Jimmy on Mar 5, 2010 2:10 PM CST
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PrintAlways a flurry of action and rumors on the first day of free agency. I don't expect the Titans to make any news until this weekend or early next week, but it is still fun to track the action. It would be nice to see the Titans get involved in the Aaron Kampman sweepstakes, but he appears to be headed to Seattle.
Anyway, get the free agent discussion going in this thread. I will try an weigh in anytime I hear anything.
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"I finished the game. In my mind, if I finished the game, I can play next week." - Steve McNair RIP
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I cannot believe the Lions gave Burleson
all of that money. I guess stupid receiver decisions follow you if you were on the Titans staff. Or it could just be a Lions thing….
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"What if I was Peyton Manning?"- CJ to the ref after they picked up a personal foul flag for a late hit on him.
good point theo
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they have for decades
and look where it’s gotten them. My problem with their plan is everyone they sign is several years removed from the season that made them a ‘hot’ commodity.
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it's official
KVB is now a Lion
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You can listen online here.
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"What if I was Peyton Manning?"- CJ to the ref after they picked up a personal foul flag for a late hit on him.
yes! thanks
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Why did they sign him to a stupid FA contract?
Because they realized they couldn’t draft him in the first round.
kvb
4 year deal
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You're friggin' kidding me
so, so glad we didn’t try to match that. even 4 years at the veteran minimum would be a joke… even if he is one of my favorite players.
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yup
good luck to the lions on that
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bad deals for KVB and Nate Burelson
sounds like the same old Lions…
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Schefter says it is 4 years $26 million
not sure how much is guaranteed. That is a lot.
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"What if I was Peyton Manning?"- CJ to the ref after they picked up a personal foul flag for a late hit on him.
That's got to be a mistake
That’s a lot of money for someone that couldn’t have been entertaining that serious of offers could he?
KVB and Suh
the Lions DL can be above average next year.
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Involved with Aaron Kampman?
he just had a season as bad as kyle vanden bosch. Glad your not running the team
Do some research
They moved him to outside linebacker in a 3-4, which is not what he is best suited to play. That is why his production dropped off. Obviously he would be back at end here. Thanks for playing.
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"What if I was Peyton Manning?"- CJ to the ref after they picked up a personal foul flag for a late hit on him.
ok he was good a season ago, started to suck, looks just like the trend line of kyle vanden bosch
by CarlosLehder on Mar 5, 2010 10:27 AM CST up reply actions
EXCEPT THAT HE MOVED TO A DIFFERENT POSITION
What kind of dumbass are you?
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hes a 30 going on 31 year old white dude, they dont last at defensive end position, and if they do why dont you provide some examples
by CarlosLehder on Mar 5, 2010 10:33 AM CST up reply actions
Dude, "you're" dense.
Seriously.
I got an idea, let’s move CJ to linebacker. Then after he has a crappy year, you can tell everybody about how he is a sucky football player. Makes perfect sense.
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by gramsey712 on Mar 5, 2010 10:36 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
actually it doesnt even matter that hes white, but it doesnt help his athleticism. im just such a dumbass I didnt realize what 30+ yr old de’s do for the titans
by CarlosLehder on Mar 5, 2010 10:38 AM CST up reply actions
Now "you're" a racist.
You are really making friends around here.
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you need to be realistic about their skill level now, not clinging to them cause they are white players who used to be good
by CarlosLehder on Mar 5, 2010 10:47 AM CST up reply actions
So what is their skill level now, Carlos?
Almighty decider of white player skill level?
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would love to see carlos say that to his face
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by SouthTexasTitan on Mar 5, 2010 1:51 PM CST up reply actions
i like and boom and you like boom(ah). We boom boom boom till the break of boom
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by DonFrancisco on Mar 8, 2010 10:47 AM CST up reply actions
Congratulations on being able to look up stats on the internet
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"What if I was Peyton Manning?"- CJ to the ref after they picked up a personal foul flag for a late hit on him.
I shouldve had an irrelevant players stats memorized yeaaah
by CarlosLehder on Mar 5, 2010 10:39 AM CST up reply actions
Irrelevant?
He had 9.5 sacks the last time he played the position the Titans would be signing him to play. Maybe you need to look up the definition of irrelevent.
Also, I didn’t have that memorized. I had to look it up. So actually it isn’t memorizing stats of irrelevant playes- it is being able to identify the needs of my favorite team and players that fit said needs.
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"What if I was Peyton Manning?"- CJ to the ref after they picked up a personal foul flag for a late hit on him.
Congratulations on being able to look up stats on the internet
by CarlosLehder on Mar 5, 2010 10:44 AM CST up reply actions
Thank you
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"What if I was Peyton Manning?"- CJ to the ref after they picked up a personal foul flag for a late hit on him.
Carlos thinks he won
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by DonFrancisco on Mar 5, 2010 12:28 PM CST up reply actions
The player became relevant to you when you started criticizing the hypothetical front office move.
Is it asking too much for someone to actually look at the statistics before making kneejerk reactions about why the Titans should’t pick him up?
No one is asking you to memorize anything. Only to review the data and make an educated opinion.
2006-15.5
2007-12.0
2008-9.5
2009 -3.5
What are you seeing that I’m not?
by CarlosLehder on Mar 5, 2010 10:50 AM CST up reply actions
titans should sign a player who had declining stats a whole season ago before he switched positions and put another season of wear on his body, sounds like a great idea
by CarlosLehder on Mar 5, 2010 10:51 AM CST up reply actions
HE PLAYED A DIFFERENT POSITION IN 2009
Please respond to THIS COMMENT so we can see that you can read the fact that
HE DID NOT PLAY DEFENSIVE END IN 2009.
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15.5-12= 3.5 less sacks
12-9.5=2.5 less sacks
switches positions
9.5-3.5= 6 less sacks
switch him back to defensive end assuming he played last year and had 9.5 sacks he has 3 less sacks and has 6, thats not taking into consideration hes a year older nearly 31
by CarlosLehder on Mar 5, 2010 10:53 AM CST up reply actions
And it always goes exactly like that
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"What if I was Peyton Manning?"- CJ to the ref after they picked up a personal foul flag for a late hit on him.
its not last year its two seasons ago, when kampman last had 9.5 sacks, which would be albert haynesworth at 8.5, then jacob ford at 7.
and when is that not the trend? de is heading into their 30’s sacks decline, and then bam early 30’s stats shoot back up to when the player was in their prime.
come on
by CarlosLehder on Mar 5, 2010 10:58 AM CST up reply actions
So for the last two years
Aaron Kampman has had more sacks than the leader of the Titans.
come on
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considering kampman is a starter plays several more downs a game is on the field more, I wouldnt consider his .5 sack that much greater than jacob ford who doesnt get as many sacks.
would you? I didnt think so
by CarlosLehder on Mar 5, 2010 11:07 AM CST up reply actions
So for the last two years
Aaron Kampman has had more sacks than the leader of the Titans.
come on
by CarlosLehder on Mar 5, 2010 11:09 AM CST up reply actions
the sack leader for the titans the past two seasons in jacob ford with 12.5, compared to the starter aaron kampmans insane 13 sacks
by CarlosLehder on Mar 5, 2010 11:09 AM CST up reply actions
But I never said we would replace Jacob Ford
Why can’t you read? We play more than one DE per game. More than two as a matter of fact.
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I'm so pissed I couldn't have gotten involved in this convo
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by T--Rac's Posse on Mar 5, 2010 11:15 AM CST up reply actions
Yeah, Dave Ball is not who should be starting
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by T--Rac's Posse on Mar 5, 2010 11:22 AM CST up reply actions
I didnt say replace him.
you said kampman (starter) had more sacks than the titans leader, jacob ford, which is a 2nd string player. How does that speak to the quality of play of the coveted aaron kampman?
by CarlosLehder on Mar 5, 2010 11:18 AM CST up reply actions
It means he has more sacks than the Titans' starters
What kind of argument is that?
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a free agent you want to bring in and pay millions, had .5 more sacks than a titans second stringer?
if you still dont get it that means his quality of play is on par with a 2nd string player for the titans, do you understand ?
by CarlosLehder on Mar 5, 2010 11:25 AM CST up reply actions
What?
So Kampman is on par with a 2nd string player for the Titans, but he had more sacks than the 1st string player for the Titans who played in front of the 2nd string player for the Titans who only had .5 less sacks than Kampman?
“You’re” right. I don’t understand.
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by gramsey712 on Mar 5, 2010 11:27 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
kvb and jeavon kearse both over 30 years of age, they start they arent effective anymore.
quit trying to intentionally be confusing. Aaron Kampman had .5 sacks more than Jacob Ford, who doesnt start in games, and doesnt play as many downs. Hes old and getting older, recovering from surgery.
Thats all that needs to be said nothing else you say changes the facts about anything.
"If you are go after " i typed it again funnier everytime
by CarlosLehder on Mar 5, 2010 12:57 PM CST up reply actions
Aaron Kampman would be an upgrade to our defensive line
You cannot argue that point with any rationality.
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Fire Jeff Fisher.
Much better.
And, I actually agree with you. Had you formed your argument like this from the getgo, I think this conversation would have gone a lot more smoothly.
Six sacks would have led the Titans in 2009
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"What if I was Peyton Manning?"- CJ to the ref after they picked up a personal foul flag for a late hit on him.
That's true.
I don’t really have an issue with signing him. We’re not going to spend the money anyway. I’d just prefer to spend a few more million a year on a guy that’s an absolute freak like Julius Peppers. He’s going to be the highest paid FA this year, but I still think he presents more value for your dollar.
wouldn't be surprised
if you turn out right, but it’s hard to say before we see what ludicrous money the 3 R’s throw at him.
I don't really care about Kampman personally
I am just arguing because Carlos is a racist dumbass.
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by gramsey712 on Mar 5, 2010 10:57 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
As a Packer fan I can explain
In 2006 and 2007 GB had a solid Defensive Line. KGB was healthy at RE and Corey Williams was emerging. What does that mean? Less pressure on Kampman. In 2007 KGB and Jenkins were rotating and Corey Williams was rising to become a star DT. What does that mean? Less pressure on Kampman.
What happened in 2008? Well, what didn’t happen in Green Bay? There were injuries all over. Cullen Jenkins was on pace for a 15 sack season before tearing his ACL. Corey Williams was traded away (their best DT), so that left the DL with just Kampman and a bunch of no name backups. Maybe that explains why Green Bay had one of the worst run defenses in the NFL that year.
2009…Do I really need to explain?
Look, as a Packer fan I have tremendous respect for Aaron Kampman. He is a great player with a great attitude. He’s a leader on and off the field and would be a tremendous addition to Tennessee. I will say this, I would like to resign him. Most fans don’t realize this, but Kampman was on pace for a 10 sack season. Stats can be deceiving, and in this case, they are. Hope that helps explain Aaron Kampman.
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yeah, carlos is retarded.. ANY team would want Kampman… even with “declining” numbers…
here… listen to this… it’s like saying Bill Gates is a loser because in 2006 he made 2 billion, 2007 made 1.5 billion, 2008 made 1 billion, and 2009 ONLY made 750million… see my point?
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This just in, Peyton Manning is on the decline!
In 2008 he threw 12 interceptions; in 2009 he threw 16 interceptions. In 2008 he had 20 carries for 21 yards and 1 TD; in 2009 he had 19 carries for -13 yards with 0 TD!
Thanks, Carlos, for explaining declining numbers to us!
Ignore the hype; look at the results.
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“If you are go after "? ha teach yourself idiot
by CarlosLehder on Mar 5, 2010 10:28 AM CST up reply actions
If Jimmy was running the team...
we would be trading for Demeco Ryans now.
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We would have actually drafted him in the first place
Take that Carlos!
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"What if I was Peyton Manning?"- CJ to the ref after they picked up a personal foul flag for a late hit on him.
Once again the titans disapoint
Peppers will go to either the bears or the patriots no suprise but Aaron Kampman the player I thought the titans would really go after will probably go to the seahawks. Once again titans I am disapointed with the lack of aggressivness on the free agent market. well done and good job we will probably be 8-8 next year with this type of FO
But look at the money those guys will get
Ya I’d like Peppers and Kampman but only for a price. I don’t think Peppers will be nearly as good once he gets a big paycheck, and Kampman I’d take for a low salary but nothing less. I’d rather go with the young guys we have then hinge our hopes to an aging D-lineman like Kampman. Its all about what contracts they get.
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by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Mar 5, 2010 10:35 AM CST up reply actions
It's a good draft for defensive linemen
And I like our ability to get young guys up to speed at that position. So I have no issue with these passes by Titans. At CB is a different question.
Ya certainly
I don’t really worry about our D-line with Washburn in control, but I sure would’ve liked Dunta Robinson but it doesn’t look like we’ll be very active in FA for corners.
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by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Mar 5, 2010 1:04 PM CST up reply actions
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Congrats to my boy The Machine Kyle Vandebosh for get’n on w/Detroit. Good play Schwartzy….
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FA ideas
Since we are gonna be the stingiest team in the league then why dont we sign some bargain players like kevin walter who is fast and tall and we could also get aaron kampman
DE Charles Grant
Was just released by the Saints…
Not a stud, and he has some injury history. But we need some serious help at DE.
kevin walter
sign kevin walter as a better down field threat than washington and is a number two reciever not a number three. genius. fail
If we sign Kevin Walter and he spends his entire career on IR
He will STILL be more reliable than Nate Washington
fail fail
great idea…so then we would have two number 3 receivers making around $5 million a year, and no money to spend on DE or CB.
and justin gage is better than kevin walter.
I don't think josh was advocating signing Kevin Walter
I think he was just making a point about Hands Washington.
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no, dumbass
then we cut Nate Washington and have all the money in the world to spend on DE, CB, and LB in an UNCAPPED YEAR
Nate Washington has $9 million in guaranteed money
So if we cut him we would still be paying him millions. But your idea is to cut him anyways, and sign the gamebreaking star that is Kevin Walter. What do you seriously think Walter would bring to our team that Gage, Britt, and Washinton don’t bring already?
Walter produced 40-60 catches a year as the #2 in Houston. They have a much more explosive passing game than we do. In all likelihood Walter’s stats would drop if he came here.
He will probably get 5-6 million a year as a free agent. Kevin Walter is the exact type of player you wan’t to avoid in Free Agency, especially for a team like the Titans. I’m sure you think differently, because Walter has a great rating in Madden 2010, but that is why you fail.
And thank you for typing UNCAPPED YEAR in capital letters/bold. That really made things easy for me to understand.
I get it, because since it is an “*UNCAPPED YEAR*”!!!!!!!!, Bud Adams will just open up his wallet and throw money at players.
And I am the dumbass.
you don't get it
I know Bud is not going to open up his wallet. I’m saying he SHOULD. In social science this concept is known as a prescriptive, rather than a predictive, statement.
My idea is to cut Nate Washington and find somebody else for roughly $5M/yr. The best time to do this is now, when we could eat his bonus in an UNCAPPED YEAR for accounting purposes. it doesn’t have to be Kevin Walter; he was just an example (see my comment about if he were on IR…). What I am looking for is someone with better hands and concentration than Nate Washington, and better separation than Justin Gage. I’m fine with Kenny Britt so far.
I hate to remove the bedrock of your analysis, but I’ve never played Madden 10 or viewed the player ratings.
In the interest of focusing on potential agreement, I do agree with your final point about your being a dumbass. Further, throwing the word “fail” around makes you look like a 17yo XBOX Live sceneboy. Go get slurpees with your friends and laugh about how I’m not hip to your jive.
Walter isn’t really a downfield threat. I love him and hope he comes back to the Texans, but I think you have his skillset wrong.
Rudimentary creatures of flesh and blood, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.
I'm glad you are putting your social sciences degree to good use
Now go to bed (and feel free to dream about Kevin Walter.).
He just signed with the Texans btw:
http://www.rotoworld.com/CONTENT/playerpages/player_main.aspx?sport=nfl&id=2523
Interestingly, they describe him as a ‘possession receiver’.
dunta robinson
going to the falcons
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I do not know why I let myself get excited about free agency
I know just as well as all of you that the better way to build the team is through the draft. Yet when free agency comes around I get excited about the possibilities, all the while knowing that the Titans are not gonig to make any spalshes and they are only going to sign bottom dwellers, that are cheap. Dont get me wrong I do not want to see us over pay for talent, but this year we need a ton of help on Defense and I dont see how draft picks alone are going to cure our needs.
I hear ya
the Titans are a team that makes their biggest splash a day or two into the FA period. I mean for how much we all hammer the Titans for not spending, look at how many of the starters on the 2008 team that won 13 games were FAs: Jake Scott, David Thornton, Chris Hope, Justin Gage, Kevin Mawae, KVB, pre-implosion Nick Harper.
You have to commend the FO for making a lot more signings that work out than bust and paralyze our finances.
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It's tough because the NFL is designed in a way that makes FAs
older players who have their best years behind them and they are demanding HUGE contracts. Really, the best finds in free agency seem to always be talented players who, for some reason or another, underachieved and got cut, then you sign them and they turn it around and/or mature or whatever.
The other issue is it is so hard to judge if a guy is productive due to the players and scheme around him or if he is just good.
Even Peppers, who probably still has 2-3 top years left, would not be worth the money he wants and could only have one good year left and it wouldn’t surprise me. The risk-reward with FAs is bigger in the NFL than in any other major sport.
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by T--Rac's Posse on Mar 5, 2010 11:30 AM CST up reply actions
To be fair though
Hope, Thornton and Mawae were coveted free agents signed by Floyd Reese. I highly doubt any of them would have ever been Titans if Reinfeldt were in charge then.
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"What if I was Peyton Manning?"- CJ to the ref after they picked up a personal foul flag for a late hit on him.
That's true
Reese and Reinfeldt are two totally different styles
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by T--Rac's Posse on Mar 5, 2010 11:36 AM CST up reply actions
in addition
Harper was NEVER good (at least in 2 blues). He just didn’t got exposed as often with the sick pass rush we had that year.
Justin Gage would not start on any other team
I’m not sure Jake Scott>Jacob Bell, but at least we took him from the Colts.
I AM glad our FO seems to recognize that FA values are set by desperation plays more than anything else. My main gripes with them are that they make decisions based on who kisses the most ass and they let too many good players walk without getting any value from them.
If you’re 0-6, and you know you’re not going to extend KVB or KB, why the hell not trade them?
What could they have gotten for them?
You almost never see trades in the NFL.
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"What if I was Peyton Manning?"- CJ to the ref after they picked up a personal foul flag for a late hit on him.
draft picks
I agree with your assessment that in-season trades are quite rare, but:
Any contender would have been trade bait, because they knew the last 8 teams couldn’t sign good FA’s this year.
Considering that Schwartz was stalking KVB ike a peepin’ tom last night, I assume we could have gotten SOMETHING from them.
The Redskins could have sold some KB or KVB t-shirts, which fulfills their purpose for existence. They gave a stupid high pick for Jason Taylor, then cut him the next year.
The Raiders just gave up a top 10 pick for Richard Seymour.
My point is twofold: in this draft, I would like to have more picks. I don’t care if they are 5th round picks, I think a lot of the depth we need is in this draft.
- If you are going to be a smart FO, you can’t just stay out of FA against the dumb FO’s, you have to take advantage of them in trades.
I agree with you
But we were still in the playoff hunt at the trade deadline.
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I can't disagree, because of our finish
Although at 0-5, I know what Jim Mora Sr. would have said about that
they make decisions based on who kisses the most ass
Name one.
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by T--Rac's Posse on Mar 5, 2010 11:53 AM CST up reply actions
DONNIE NICKEY
Craig Hentrich (roster spot last year? WTF???), Kerry Collins, Paul Williams, Justin Gage
This policy is more clear in the players they let go: Courtney Roby, Dudley Guice
I am not sure that you can say they are "kissing ass."
But I agree, there is something fishy about the same bad players getting tons of playing time.
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exactly
How does one man coach the same team in the NFL for 15 YEARS, going 2-14 some of the time, or choking with good rosters?
The only way is to make only the most conservative moves, and when something ridiculously bad does happen, to get in the old man’s ear and have players who will back up your attempts to sweet-talk him.
Courtney Roby criticizes Fred Graves: boom, gone the next day!
Dudley Guice points out that none of the secondary except Finn can cover a receiver: boom, 1st cut from training camp!
Now one is a valuable player for the Saints, and the other is Colts property.
Craig Hentrich sits in a chair and smiles quietly: roster spot
Donnie Nickey backs down when VY gets in his face for no reason: ditto
The team concocts a ridiculous story about VY being suicidal, calling his crackhead mother up to get her all in a panic just to try to turn Bud against Vince in order to hand the team over to…KERRY FREAKIN’ COLLINS (Who then gets an extension almost as big as KURT WARNER’S)??
It’s pretty obvious if you think about it. Nick Harper over Rod Hood? WTF?
Up in Winnipeg here
We had Dudley Guice play for the Bombers, our CFL team. I really thought he was pretty crappy most of the season. Apparently, the Colts disagree considering they signed him, but I’d be surprised if he became a consistent producer.
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by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Mar 5, 2010 1:08 PM CST up reply actions
interesting
He definitely didn’t put up much in the stats columns. I think he’s a bit raw, and the Colts have a lot of young talent at WR, so we’ll see what happens.
I went to a Blue Bombers game back in the day and had a hell of a good time. Ditto for the Winnipeg Thunder.
jets?
and nick harper was in the CFL. and bart andrus killed my local argos.
/canadian’d
This was the summer
after Teemu Selanne’s rookie year, and the Jets were on their way out of town.
That is interesting.
If he wasn’t spectacular in Canadian play, it’s hard to imagine him making an impact in the NFL… even with the Colts.
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different styles of game
there are the rare players who are better in the nfl than the cfl, ricky williams, and dansby for example.
though as i stopped watching, excluding the half dozen ricky games, in like 98 i cant talk to whoever this guy is
i miss carr
There are no weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, Chris Johnson lives in Florida.
by SouthTexasTitan on Mar 5, 2010 11:27 AM CST up reply actions
didnt they put him as a corner?
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by SouthTexasTitan on Mar 5, 2010 11:29 AM CST up reply actions
Yeah, but he wasn't very good as a returner either.
A little better than what we had, but not much.
Not worth the raise for sure.
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Fire Jeff Fisher.
Yeah I didnt have a huge issue with the Titans not resigning Carr
I had a huge issue with how they handled the returner position after they chose not to resign him
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by T--Rac's Posse on Mar 5, 2010 11:37 AM CST up reply actions
no kidding!
I just assumed they had a better plan than putting Griff and Court back there!
don remind me
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by SouthTexasTitan on Mar 5, 2010 11:47 AM CST up reply actions
goddamnit
don’t*
There are no weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, Chris Johnson lives in Florida.
by SouthTexasTitan on Mar 5, 2010 12:18 PM CST up reply actions
huh?
I’m an early bird and a night owl. So I’m wise and I have worms.
by DonFrancisco on Mar 5, 2010 12:26 PM CST up reply actions
you rang...
i have work to do
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by DonFrancisco on Mar 5, 2010 12:26 PM CST up reply actions
typo
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by SouthTexasTitan on Mar 5, 2010 12:27 PM CST up reply actions
I thought STT was asking for you to remind him
And I don’t think we should go with STT. Too close to STD.
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Fire Jeff Fisher.
tex is fine lets avoid STT
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by SouthTexasTitan on Mar 5, 2010 12:30 PM CST up reply actions
i didnt even see the typo
i’ll remind him though
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by DonFrancisco on Mar 5, 2010 12:30 PM CST up reply actions
sharper any one
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by SouthTexasTitan on Mar 5, 2010 11:36 AM CST reply actions
Not sure we are willing to pay him what he wants
when he wouldn’t be a starter here.
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Fire Jeff Fisher.
What do you guys think about Litto Shepard?
I belive he is under 30, and not going to demand the high contract that the Titans stear clear of. I would think he could be a solid #2 corner for a few years giving us time to draft one or to coach up one of our younger ones.
Just a thought but he seems like the type of FA the FO might go for.
maybe
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by SouthTexasTitan on Mar 5, 2010 11:50 AM CST up reply actions
definitely
We are desperate for any kind of depth at that position.
Love the idea
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by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Mar 5, 2010 1:10 PM CST up reply actions
also would welcome lito
i think he’d be a great addition. last yr he had a 6.6 ypa according to espn. he’s not the greatest coverage guy, but waaaay better than harper, and at this stage “stone hands” mouton and “not the better one” mccourty. prob better than rod hood as well. i would also LOVE kampmann coming here, moving back to his DE position and most importantly providing veteran leadership (which will be much needed) in the locker room. i think what you’re gonna see the Titans do in the FA period is sif thru the scrap heap of those released by their old teams hoping to find another gem like they did when they first signed Boom King from Cards.
by NJ Titans Fan on Mar 5, 2010 2:35 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
The problem is
there wont’ be anything left on day two of free agency this year, with the fourth year players not being free agents. I am having a hard time thinking of anyone left out there who actually is much of an upgrade over Harper, Kearse or KVB. I am not saying I want any of those guys back, just that Kampman probably isn’t much better than KVB or Shepard much better than Harper. So unless their is a trade brewing I don’t know how the Titans are going to fill the DE, CB and LB spots with one draft pick in the first two rounds. On the other hand we haven’t had many second round draft picks produce in their first season anyhow. I am very negative at the moment about the 2010 Titans defense.
by Stormcrow on Mar 5, 2010 12:06 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
Shepard over Harper
eh? Lito is 28. Harper is 35. Lito has two pro bowl selections in his career, Harper has none. Harper was rated the worst CB in the league for pass coverage last year by FO. I don’t know a lot about the cornerback position, but just looking at their raw stats and ages I have to think that Shepard would be a significant upgrade over Harper.
shepard sucks!!
he was benched by the jets mid season. he also the reason why they lost against the Coats in the playoffs. the guy ahead of him got hurt…..sheppard got burned for a touchdown on the next series. plus he cant tackle. The titans like CBs that can tackle for run support.
WE NEED TO MAKE A BID FOR PATS CB LEIGH BODDEN
by ibleedtitansblue on Mar 5, 2010 2:04 PM CST up reply actions
I haven't seen Shepard play
So I’m not going to argue this point, but again, he is worse than Harper? Really?
And the Titans need corners who can actually defend receivers. Run support should be a secondary consideration.
by numbertenox on Mar 5, 2010 2:30 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
So true!
A pylon would be an upgrade over Harper right now, so if Sheppard can move, he’s even more of an upgrade.
"I don't care if I have to run 100 times or pass it 100 times, ... Whatever it takes to win is all that matters to me." - VY
by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Mar 5, 2010 2:32 PM CST up reply actions
wasnt tryin to start an arguement my friend
just sayin he sucks and giving you an example. but your right anyone is better than harper….. but we could do better than lito. hell id rather give mouton a shot….. just sayin lol
by ibleedtitansblue on Mar 5, 2010 3:03 PM CST up reply actions
i think they were going to have mouton as a nickel corner only
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by SouthTexasTitan on Mar 5, 2010 3:05 PM CST up reply actions
maybe
how long did they just lock up fuller though? i thought they just gave him a contract
by ibleedtitansblue on Mar 5, 2010 3:33 PM CST up reply actions
no idea i know i heard that mouton was gunna be that nickel corner
cuz you never know when an injury might happen i.e. broken arm
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by SouthTexasTitan on Mar 5, 2010 3:59 PM CST up reply actions
Where did he go to college?
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"What if I was Peyton Manning?"- CJ to the ref after they picked up a personal foul flag for a late hit on him.
He played college football at Indiana where he was a quarterback.
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by SouthTexasTitan on Mar 5, 2010 3:55 PM CST up reply actions
It really does not matter
who we want on the Titans this year the front office is way to cheap.So all this talk that we need this guy or we want that guy is a mute point.Yes we can wish for Peppers or Kampman but you know just like I do it’s not going to happen.I mean what was wrong with Cromartie?Oh I know why bc the front office thinks they can win it all with players like nick harper.
To be fair
Although Cromartie is tempting and has some potential, he wants a new contract and has major legal issues. He’s fathered 7 children with 5 different women. I’m happy they stayed away from him. We don’t need more headache players.
"I don't care if I have to run 100 times or pass it 100 times, ... Whatever it takes to win is all that matters to me." - VY
by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Mar 5, 2010 1:21 PM CST up reply actions
That just means
he knows how to play the open field and knows how to hit his target…
HIYOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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"What if I was Peyton Manning?"- CJ to the ref after they picked up a personal foul flag for a late hit on him.
probably holds his position too long
and doesn’t react to how the play develops
by joshuaboone on Mar 5, 2010 1:51 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
That just means he's fertile.
He and The Cheese can get together and start their own franchise. I still think he was a STEAL for a 3rd.
DannoE
"You may say I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one."
Certainly he's got talent
And if he can get move past some issues, you’re absolutely right, he’ll look like a steal.
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by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Mar 5, 2010 2:29 PM CST up reply actions
Cro to the Jets for a 3rd rounder
as flawed as he is as a corner, we gave a 2cnd rounder for cook. i think we could reach witha 3rd for a huge need.
Headache or not
the Titans need to stop being a bunch of girl scouts.Man up and make some moves that are going to win some supper bowl’s.Not 8-8 or one playoff win here or there.Crazy legs is not going to last forever.
ahh supper bowls
delicious!
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by SouthTexasTitan on Mar 5, 2010 1:59 PM CST up reply actions
http://blogs.nfl.com/2010/03/05/reports-bears-close-with-peppers-taylor-has-dealn/
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by SouthTexasTitan on Mar 5, 2010 2:07 PM CST up reply actions
hes too old for six years
plus peppers is not going to produce once he gets paid. just like FAT AL
by ibleedtitansblue on Mar 5, 2010 2:08 PM CST up reply actions
he wanted haynesworth money
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by SouthTexasTitan on Mar 5, 2010 2:10 PM CST up reply actions
yea
also had the the hype of haynesworth
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by SouthTexasTitan on Mar 5, 2010 2:33 PM CST up reply actions
$40 million over the first 3 years??
How long have you been a Titan fan???
Official MCM Hater!
Fire Jeff Fisher.
No, not you. Teddybear.
And I didn’t really mean to be derogatory, but if he thinks that the Titans were anywhere close to matching that contract, then he doesn’t know how this FO operates.
Official MCM Hater!
Fire Jeff Fisher.
ooooooooooooooooooo
nevermind. gotcha
by ibleedtitansblue on Mar 5, 2010 2:17 PM CST up reply actions
No, I called Teddybear Teddybear.
I don’t like you that way man!
Official MCM Hater!
Fire Jeff Fisher.
akward...
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by SouthTexasTitan on Mar 5, 2010 2:18 PM CST up reply actions
haha
just makin sure. i didnt realize someone had the screen name teddybear
by ibleedtitansblue on Mar 5, 2010 2:19 PM CST up reply actions
dunta's out the window
http://blogs.nfl.com/2010/03/05/robinson-expected-to-sign-with-falcons-by-sunday/
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Liegh Bodden, Leigh Bodden, Leigh Bodden
by ibleedtitansblue on Mar 5, 2010 2:18 PM CST reply actions
bodden over lito
unfort bodden will prob re-sign with pats or get overpaid by some team like the texans.
by NJ Titans Fan on Mar 5, 2010 2:38 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
i dont know we over paid
Washington
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by SouthTexasTitan on Mar 5, 2010 4:01 PM CST up reply actions
But that is what i am talking about.
FO has no balls.I have been a Titans fan ever since they moved to Memphis. Now I live in Indianapolis and still love my Titans.
The Titans FO might not be perfect
But at least they have a plan and stick to it. This isn’t fantasy football (or the Raiders or Redskins) where you just pick up available players and plug them in. Its about fitting into the scheme, at the right price, and what the player can give us in the future. Other than Peppers there isn’t much out there, and for his asking price I’m glad we took a pass.
"I don't care if I have to run 100 times or pass it 100 times, ... Whatever it takes to win is all that matters to me." - VY
by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Mar 5, 2010 2:26 PM CST up reply actions
What plan?
Plan not to win a supper bowl.Look I am not trying to sound like a jerk her.But I am done with drafting a player then when its time to pay him FO just lets him go.Why bc he does not fit into the scheme any more?No it’s bc they are cheap.If they don’t want to pay them thats fine just get someone out of the free agents pool that can help out now.Don’t just start over and hope that this will be the year that we win it all.Like I said i am not a jerk I just want to win now not 10 to 15 years from now.
Plan??
They don’t have a plan. With anything…you need a diversified mix. So this overrated notion that you build a team through the draft is nonsense. New Orleans major players were Brees and Sharper. How did they get there? Free Agency.
Fantastic point
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"What if I was Peyton Manning?"- CJ to the ref after they picked up a personal foul flag for a late hit on him.
Paying too much for one of the best quarterbacks in the league is one thing
Paying too much for an old defensive end is quite another.
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Fire Jeff Fisher.
I'm not saying free agency doesn't work
But do you see a Brees-like player out there this year? And a Brees-like player that for the money the Titans would have to give him would make a Brees-like impact on this team?
"I don't care if I have to run 100 times or pass it 100 times, ... Whatever it takes to win is all that matters to me." - VY
by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Mar 5, 2010 2:56 PM CST up reply actions
Brees is possibly
the best Free Agent signing in history, but remember NO was one of only 2 teams that wanted Brees before the 2006 season. You won’t see somebody as good as him on the open market anytime soon. It’s why QBs always go higher than they probably should in the draft.
Free Agency should be used if you are trying to make one last push for a championship, as you are 1 or 2 players short of being elite (i.e. Sharper to NO last year). The Saints were a top 5 offense for each of the previous 3 seasons, with awful defenses. They went and got an impact player on defense (and also because they only had 4 draft picks last year), and it worked for them. It’ll sometimes get you to the top, like this year’s Saints, but it is really hard to sustain that success year after year signing guys in their 6-7th years.
Who are the most successful franchises over the past decade? Patriots, Colts, Steelers, Eagles. What do they all have in common? They built their teams through the draft. Sure they may have a FA here or there, but 80-85% of their roster were guys they drafted.
The Titans are in a very interesting position, as they have probably the most dynamic player on their roster right now, and he’ll only be that way for 4, maybe 5 more years. They obviously have some pieces already there, but they can’t keep screwing around, wasting away Johnson’s best years. I think this year’s draft for the Titans will be extremely important. Get 3-4 guys who can play and they’ll be in great shape. Screw it up, and they’ll have to start looking at a couple impact FAs to get to Championship level.
Creator and developer of the Winning Stats.
further
keep in mind that he was an injury gamble that paid off. Hindsight’s 20/20.
Exactly
I think every FA is a gamble, with respect to motivation. They got paid, so will they do the extra that got them that big payday in the first place?
With rookies, you know that motivation is there.
Was there much talk in the offseason between ’05 and ’06 about Brees to the Titans? They were obviously in the QB market that year.
Creator and developer of the Winning Stats.
Not any serious talk
Titans Blogger at Music City Miracles even though gramsey hates it.
"What if I was Peyton Manning?"- CJ to the ref after they picked up a personal foul flag for a late hit on him.
we had Nate Washington
but he dropped it
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by SouthTexasTitan on Mar 5, 2010 4:35 PM CST up reply actions
Not calling you a jerk
Its just historically, the Titans have used free agency to pick up lesser known players who can be pieces in the grand scheme rather than stars. To some extent it works, and to some extent it fails. We lock up certain young players we deem irreplaceable, (ex Roos, Stewart) and if we think they’re gonna be overpaid somewhere else we let them walk.
"I don't care if I have to run 100 times or pass it 100 times, ... Whatever it takes to win is all that matters to me." - VY
by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Mar 5, 2010 2:52 PM CST up reply actions
Don't forget Finnegan,
FO does a great job with resigning and congratulating certain players a new contract when they deserve them.
KVB - Albert Haynesworth, KVB is washed up bro… he is no longer good… and Hayneworth only plays when he is motivated ( ie Contract Year ).
Keith Bulluck is the lone exception, I still think the Titans will resign him.
Look @ Tony Brown and Tully and such.
They deserve new contracts, and most likely WILL get them.
AGAIN, DO NOT PAY 26$ Million for a washed up DE like KVB.
We all loved him when he WAS good!
Nice catch
I should’ve remembered Finnegan.
"I don't care if I have to run 100 times or pass it 100 times, ... Whatever it takes to win is all that matters to me." - VY
by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Mar 5, 2010 3:02 PM CST up reply actions
ya i like that they dont over spend
that way way we dont end up like the Raiders. if i could spell his name i would. But that foriegn CB that got all that money. i think he had 30 something tackles last year with maybe 1 pick. now hes cut…….pitiful
i dont recall the TItans ever being in that postion unless there was a injury. One thing the Titans FO is good at is cutting their loses
by ibleedtitansblue on Mar 5, 2010 3:10 PM CST up reply actions
basically they pay people that deserve to be paid
i think fat al fell out of good graces when he decided to stomp on that guys head. after that i didnt care if they kicked him out of the league. says alot about his character
by ibleedtitansblue on Mar 5, 2010 3:16 PM CST up reply actions
yup
and his chronic laziness in the years before that incident didn’t help.
Music City Miracles blogger and official Jon Bovi tour manager.
Roos
and Stewart i wouldn’t want any other tackles protecting our quarterback, they hold down some of the best DL players in the league
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by SouthTexasTitan on Mar 5, 2010 3:17 PM CST up reply actions
bet OL in the league hand down
great chemistry
by ibleedtitansblue on Mar 5, 2010 3:18 PM CST up reply actions
Hell, since the purge back in 2005
Albert is the only great player we’ve let walk, and he got an absurd contract. I mean he’ll probably never see half of it, but he’s scheduled to make in the 9 figures range.. and they’re all on the expensive side of the decimal point.
Music City Miracles blogger and official Jon Bovi tour manager.
and amano and roos
we could go on and on.
i think CJ should be next
by ibleedtitansblue on Mar 5, 2010 3:12 PM CST reply actions
i think thats why we're holdin off on FA
CJ will want a huge check and if we dont pay the redskins will
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by SouthTexasTitan on Mar 5, 2010 3:15 PM CST up reply actions
I think they break the bank for CJ, but they do it after next year
when the cap (hopefully) comes back into effect under a new CBA. He’s still got 3 years left on his current deal, so the Titans would be crazy to rework it right now.
Music City Miracles blogger and official Jon Bovi tour manager.
adam schefter
just said on nfl live that a deal btwn cards-ravens is close for boldin, which sux. hate to see this happen.
by NJ Titans Fan on Mar 5, 2010 3:18 PM CST via mobile reply actions
how many freakin receivers do they need!?!?!?!
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by SouthTexasTitan on Mar 5, 2010 3:22 PM CST up reply actions
They could be losing Mason
and they don’t have much behind him.
Music City Miracles blogger and official Jon Bovi tour manager.
think he'll come back?
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by SouthTexasTitan on Mar 5, 2010 3:26 PM CST up reply actions
When a guy is Mason's age, there's no telling.
I think he stays in Baltimore in the end though
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Maybe it'll backfire on them? Think positively! ;-)
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by WinnipegTitanFan13 on Mar 5, 2010 3:26 PM CST up reply actions
Shefter just said on Sportscenter....
that the deal is done and the ravens have already signed him to a four year deal
I HATE THE RAVENS!
we have britt
and hawk was showing some good flashes before the end of the season i want to see more of edison and cook but other than that i very happy with our receivers. its LB DB and DL we need to focus on
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by SouthTexasTitan on Mar 5, 2010 5:35 PM CST up reply actions
Though I am not surprised.....
…I am a little disturbed that the Titans aren’t being mentioned as a suitor for….well….pretty much anyone right now.
Overspending may not be the key to success, but neither is celibacy when it comes to potential impact Free Agents.
It’s hard to justify being draft-exclusive when you’re among the lowest payrolls in the league and you’re already heading into the draft with fewer picks than usual.
I hope that something is going-on behind the scenes that involves adding to the starting roster of this club.
"Bite my shiny metal ass!" -- Bender Bending Rodriguez
"Life is just one crushing defeat after another until you just wish Flanders was dead."
by The Jade Scorpion on Mar 5, 2010 4:45 PM CST reply actions
note there was that year
where we had to let good players go, i don’t remember it but i have heard about it.
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by SouthTexasTitan on Mar 5, 2010 4:47 PM CST up reply actions
"It’s hard to justify being draft-exclusive when you’re among the lowest payrolls in the league"
Wrong. We were 9th in the NFL in payroll last year. And you’ll notice that 5 of the 8 teams ahead of us didn’t make the playoffs.
Music City Miracles blogger and official Jon Bovi tour manager.
How were the Raiders and Redskins below us?
Soemthing fishy about that chart there, but it’s 5 PM on a Friday and I’m not going to stay at work to research it.
2009 money actually paid out:
2009 NFL Payrolls: This List Will Surprise You
Below is the payroll for the NFL in 2009. I’ve ***ed the teams that made the playoffs. Couple of things about this list shocked me. 1, the Dallas Cowboys are near the bottom of this list. Maybe Jerry Jones knows what he’s doing after all. 2, For being labeled such a football guru, Bill Parcells sure knows how to waste money.
Source: USA TODAY
1. New York Giants $ 137,638,866
2. Miami Dolphins $ 126,855,921
3. Houston Texans $ 122,573,860
4. New Orleans Saints $ 121,552,424***
5. Chicago Bears $ 120,672,110
6. New York Jets $ 120,168,770 *
7. Pittsburgh Steelers $ 119,604,460
8. Arizona Cardinals $ 116,701,866*
9. San Diego Chargers $ 115,264,155***
10. Green Bay Packers $ 114,597,569 *
11. Carolina Panthers $ 112,738,038
12. Buffalo Bills $ 111,956,066
13. Oakland Raiders $ 111,527,250
14. Baltimore Ravens $ 109,200,157*
15. Tennessee Titans $ 109,025,090
16. San Francisco 49ers $ 107,746,232
17. Washington Redskins $ 105,049,071
18. Jacksonville Jaguars $ 103,558,989
19. Philadelphia Eagles $ 102,490,815***
20. Denver Broncos $ 102,043,735
21. Indianapolis Colts $ 101,203,115***
22. Minnesota Vikings $ 99,806,040***
23. New England Patriots $ 97,565,413***
24. Detroit Lions $ 95,963,320
25. Atlanta Falcons $ 95,492,002
26. Cincinnati Bengals $ 94,591,308 *
27. Cleveland Browns $ 93,932,182
28. Dallas Cowboys $ 90,650,939*
29. Seattle Seahawks $ 89,075,820
30. Tampa Bay Buccaneers $ 84,501,322
31. Kansas City Chiefs $ 83,187,156
32. St. Louis Rams $ 62,384,821
So not the bottom – mea culpa.
I just assumed the bottom because of the 13+ million in salary reduction between 2008-2009. My bad.
"Bite my shiny metal ass!" -- Bender Bending Rodriguez
"Life is just one crushing defeat after another until you just wish Flanders was dead."
by The Jade Scorpion on Mar 5, 2010 5:16 PM CST up reply actions
What surprises me
is that there is a 70 million dollar gap roughly between top and bottom. That’s huge. You could finance a whole second team wth that gap. The giants payed for more than two rams teams.
Expect that gap to grow....
…much like in MLB with no cap in place.
The “big” markets, and traditionally promoted NFL money teams who’ll enjoy a bigger piece of the “pie,” are going to have a HUGE advantage going forward. Without a cap, we will have seen the end of parity, with the occasional execption of a one-year surprise playoff team.
The owners who are opposed to the cap propose extra playoff spots as a remedy. They must think we’ve never heard of Major League Baseball………….
"Bite my shiny metal ass!" -- Bender Bending Rodriguez
"Life is just one crushing defeat after another until you just wish Flanders was dead."
by The Jade Scorpion on Mar 5, 2010 5:36 PM CST up reply actions
I suppose I'd just be happy....
….if the FO made one splash this offseason in Free Agency.
Bring in one player who will undoubtedly be an upgrade at one of our team’s starting positions. One player who is better enough than a current strater that we will have undoubtedly upgrade said position.
"Bite my shiny metal ass!" -- Bender Bending Rodriguez
"Life is just one crushing defeat after another until you just wish Flanders was dead."
by The Jade Scorpion on Mar 5, 2010 5:38 PM CST up reply actions
what surprises me
is that MCM censored “bold”
I think that's my....
super-brilliant editing. Couldn’t get a format to work, so I gave up. Then when I posted, it worked anyway……..grr……..
"Bite my shiny metal ass!" -- Bender Bending Rodriguez
"Life is just one crushing defeat after another until you just wish Flanders was dead."
by The Jade Scorpion on Mar 5, 2010 5:47 PM CST up reply actions
boldin to the ravens
just saw it on sportscentre.
Damn.
Still, gotta be other fish in the sea………….
"Bite my shiny metal ass!" -- Bender Bending Rodriguez
"Life is just one crushing defeat after another until you just wish Flanders was dead."
by The Jade Scorpion on Mar 5, 2010 5:48 PM CST up reply actions
Anquan Boldoin
gets traded to Ravens for only a 3rd and 4th round pick…would have been nice
britt over boldin
anyday
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by SouthTexasTitan on Mar 5, 2010 5:55 PM CST up reply actions
true but probably boldin over gage and/or washington
by Longhornlegend on Mar 5, 2010 6:04 PM CST up reply actions
true
maybe mason wants back i would rather have mason teaching britt than gage
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by SouthTexasTitan on Mar 5, 2010 6:11 PM CST up reply actions
I would like that but he has been having key drops lately
by Longhornlegend on Mar 5, 2010 6:18 PM CST up reply actions
sounds like washington
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by SouthTexasTitan on Mar 5, 2010 6:25 PM CST up reply actions
good maybe that second comes back
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by SouthTexasTitan on Mar 5, 2010 6:43 PM CST up reply actions
trade to the seahawks
maybe pete wants lendale back
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by SouthTexasTitan on Mar 5, 2010 6:44 PM CST up reply actions
I'll bet the house that's where LenDale wants to go
Music City Miracles blogger and official Jon Bovi tour manager.
won't get a 2nd for lendale
maybe a 3 and/or a 4
dare to dream
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by SouthTexasTitan on Mar 5, 2010 6:48 PM CST up reply actions
not likely seahawks because they are looking at brandon marshal and to sign him they will have to give denver a 1st and 3rd
nothing left to give us. unless they give a player.
by Longhornlegend on Mar 5, 2010 6:51 PM CST up reply actions
oof
lions?
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by SouthTexasTitan on Mar 5, 2010 6:53 PM CST up reply actions
marshall's tender
is only a 1st. not a 1st and 3rd. PLUS….seattle has 2 first rounders. thats a great deal for them if they get him. theres no 1st round receiver who’s better than marshall.
by NJ Titans Fan on Mar 5, 2010 9:08 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
it could happen if....
we get a little creative and package him with a 4th maybe (or one of the rounds where we’re getting compensatory picks) for a team’s 2nd. no one has mentioned that…and i think that could be a way we get a deal done.
by NJ Titans Fan on Mar 6, 2010 12:39 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
i see them going after jones
There are no weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, Chris Johnson lives in Florida.
by SouthTexasTitan on Mar 5, 2010 6:57 PM CST up reply actions
he probably would have been apart of the Cromartie trade if they were real interested
by Longhornlegend on Mar 5, 2010 7:12 PM CST up reply actions
he was UFA though so i dont think they could have traded him
There are no weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, Chris Johnson lives in Florida.
by SouthTexasTitan on Mar 5, 2010 7:14 PM CST up reply actions
jones and jets
arent totally divorced. espn’s reporting they hope to resign him. they were just trying to avoud paying his nearly 3million roster bonus. his teammmates all want him back.
by NJ Titans Fan on Mar 5, 2010 9:15 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Antrel Rolle to the Giants
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by Aditya T (smashville) on Mar 5, 2010 9:08 PM CST reply actions
rolle -giants
whats the source?
by NJ Titans Fan on Mar 5, 2010 9:16 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
just got text from espn
rolle’s a giant…..he shoulda been a titan instead of pacman.
by NJ Titans Fan on Mar 5, 2010 9:21 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
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by Aditya T (smashville) on Mar 5, 2010 9:53 PM CST up reply actions
pacman was far better than rolle and should still be
unfortunately his tremendous talent couldn’t overcome his sever lack of brains.
i hope theytitans find a good CB or LB
I didnt realize OLB Kirk Morrison was a FA. He is a tackling machine!!! PLus Redskins CB Carlos Rodgers is a FA. Hes ready for a starting job. Both of these guys fit the Titans style of under the radar, quality players.
by ibleedtitansblue on Mar 6, 2010 8:36 AM CST reply actions
rogers
is RFA i believe. not sure what skins tendered him at
by NJ Titans Fan on Mar 6, 2010 12:30 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
"Titans have mild interest in Marques Douglas"
via afc south blog
http://espn.go.com/blog/afcsouth
If he'll come cheap and provide solid veteran depth, I am for him.
He has been a fairly productive player in his career. Since I am in New jersey, I have the “honor” of hearing all about the Jets, Giants, and Eagles ALL of the time. Douglas is a decent role player on a d-line.
decent role player but....
also from same area with same “honor” – he’s not gonna bring anything spectacular. id rather sign charles grant on a low-risk/high-reward kinda deal. also if kirk morrison’s avail….i’d be all for that!!
by NJ Titans Fan on Mar 6, 2010 12:42 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
If you are gonna be a racist dumbass
at least spell my name right.
Official MCM Hater!
Fire Jeff Fisher.
We should trade lenWHALE to detroit
give them White and our 16th pick
we get their first round pick (2nd overall) :- )
i know im dreaming but that would be nice!!! Suh or MClain would be a Titan
by ibleedtitansblue on Mar 6, 2010 1:28 PM CST reply actions
now thats out there
of course i would shat myself if that happened, if we we wanted a first it would have to be two or three of our RFA and i say that because i wouldnt trade Tulloch or Brown
There are no weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, Chris Johnson lives in Florida.
by SouthTexasTitan on Mar 6, 2010 2:12 PM CST up reply actions
also that could work if we gave them lendale and our postion in the first round
There are no weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, Chris Johnson lives in Florida.
by SouthTexasTitan on Mar 6, 2010 2:16 PM CST up reply actions
thas what i said southtexastit
titans: first and lendale
for
lions:first round pick
by ibleedtitansblue on Mar 6, 2010 3:02 PM CST reply actions
ah sh*t mah bad i just read lendale for their first
whoops
There are no weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, Chris Johnson lives in Florida.
by SouthTexasTitan on Mar 6, 2010 3:05 PM CST up reply actions
but i think that couls be a fair trade
by ibleedtitansblue on Mar 6, 2010 3:07 PM CST up reply actions
yea they need a running back
and we did good enough to stay out of the top ten
There are no weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, Chris Johnson lives in Florida.
by SouthTexasTitan on Mar 6, 2010 3:09 PM CST up reply actions
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