Titans Give RFA Tenders to Scaife, White, Vickerson,Tulloch, Brown, and Ball
by August West on Mar 3, 2010 5:02 PM CST
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PrintAccording to 2 tweets from Adam Schefter here and here, (aside: how in the hell do teams let national guys beat their own websites? Titansonline.com has nothing.) the Titans are starting to get busy on the eve of the end of the league year. All tenders must be issued by tomorrow, March 4th, and Friday will be the beginning of free agency in this bold new world of no salary cap and radically altered free agency rules.
The surprise to me is that Bo Scaife was tendered at all. He's going to cost us $4.9 million (because he was a franchise player, his tender must be a certain amount over that); that's top 3 TE money for a guy who isn't even a top 15 TE. Top put his salary in perspective, the value of the franchise tag for TEs is $4.4 million.
Stephen Tulloch received a first round tender. LenDale White and Kevin Vickerson received tenders which would require a team to give us their 2nd round pick should they offer them a contract and we don't match it.
UPDATE: Tony Brown (1st round) and Dave Ball (2nd round) were also tendered, resulting in every RFA being tendered.
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The coaching staff
puts a lot more stock into Scaife than the fanbase does. With VY being starter going into this year, I’ll be happy to see us keep him even if overpaying some. I think VY is particularly comfortable with him.
Team websites always suck for news. The only reason I ever go to them at all is roster list and cheerleader pics. cheerleaders (said in homer simpson"donuts" tone).
Eh... what's Bud's money to me?
I say, “Pay the man!” Especially because he’s the only proven TE on the roster.
DannoE
"You may say I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one."
also
here’s hoping we get a 2nd rounder for either Lendale or Vickerson. That would help draft day significantly.
trade bait
and maybe they re-sign scaife and trade him…that’s an option as well.
by NJ Titans Fan on Mar 3, 2010 5:56 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Some team would have to be willing to pay him that salary.
I don’t see it.
DannoE
"You may say I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one."
I really could see that happening to White.
2nd round pick for a player who can come in and be your #2 back or even start from the get go thats not too bad and theres a few teams out there that could really use a back. Compared to the other backs in FA I would have to say White ranks towards the top.
No way
In today’s NFL no one is going to fork over a 2nd round pick and higher than scale cash for a back that isn’t a receiving threat and has no breakaway ability.
Lendale is a good football player and can help a team, but 2nd rounders are starters and Lendale’s not close to a top 15 back (where you would like your starting back to be).
We can always hope Pete Carroll will go for him.
we'll see what happens
but I think Lendale could do a lot better on a team with a decent blocking line than a fair number of second round quality draftees. He’s a bludgeon, and a known quantity. For a rotational hammer back (a steelers bettis / willie parker type situation) he should be outstanding for somebody.
and if we keep him, cool. If CJ needs spelling this year, we have pretty good options to go to. Looking forward to seeing some more of Ringer as well. It’s all win at that position at the moment.
Known quantity
Exactly, so he was the 45th pick in 2006, is now 25, and has 628 carries for an excellent running game that say he’s a 3.7 ypc who can’t break a big run. And now you’ve gotta pay him more than a 2nd rounder.
I like Lendale, he’s a football player through and through. I want him to remain a Titan, but just don’t be shocked if he doesn’t fetch a high pick.
by WC22 on Mar 4, 2010 1:28 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
On the flip side, though
If you’re a team looking for a second decent running back, you could draft a chris henry in the second round. I doubt anyone will grab him off us either, but I won’t be stunned if it happens. 60 – 40 against.
You might be right...
maybe a second round pick for White is asking a lot, but in my opinion giving him that tender shows the rest of the league that he is for sell. If someone would pony us a second round pick he is for sure gone, however maybe the Titans get an offer of a 3rd or a 3rd and a 6th. Would you do a deal like that. Anyway thats my two cents on the deal I just think here is a player that is for sell, and has very little miles on him. I think it is very possible that someone picks him up
Good luck
haha good luck with that. Noone is going to want White. Maybe Vickerson, but I doubt we will get crap 4 em.
Perhaps.....
keeping LenDale under wraps for that potential S.D. trade?
Who knows…………
Scaife could net a Second Rounder from a team who really likes him (like the Eagles).
"Bite my shiny metal ass!" -- Bender Bending Rodriguez
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by The Jade Scorpion on Mar 3, 2010 5:57 PM CST reply actions
The Eagles?
Don’t they have Brent Celek? He just signed a contract extension. Would they give up a 2nd rounder for what will basically be a #2 TE?
Me thinks Fisher isn’t ready to have Jared Cook be the #1 TE for whatever reason, thereby wanting to keep Scaife around.
Could be....
I just mentioned the Eagles because they were the hottest pursuers of Scaife last year, and as rumor had it, near the trade deadline.
I’m willing to defer to the coaches’ judgement on this one. If they are keeping him at an overpriced salary, they must think Cook still needs work. Jared must be getting close, however, if the team is only looking to stall Scaife’s departure for one more year.
In all honesty, however, I never find myself worrying about the TE position with this team.
"Bite my shiny metal ass!" -- Bender Bending Rodriguez
"Life is just one crushing defeat after another until you just wish Flanders was dead."
by The Jade Scorpion on Mar 3, 2010 6:37 PM CST up reply actions
I like Scaife too
I think they are keeping him around for Vince.
by danomite on Mar 3, 2010 7:17 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Tender
Just wanted to clarify the term “tender” in regards to the NFL.
So if another team wants the services of these guys that we just tendered, we would receive a compensatory draft pick from them? And if no one makes a run at them, then these players are on the team for at least one more year. Is that correct?
Tooouucchhddooowwnnn Titans!
now is that a future pick or the one in thats years draft
There are no weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, Chris Johnson lives in Florida.
by SouthTexasTitan on Mar 3, 2010 9:16 PM CST up reply actions
For this year, because
it is before the draft when the trade or whatever takes place.
I believe that is right.
thanks
There are no weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, Chris Johnson lives in Florida.
by SouthTexasTitan on Mar 4, 2010 1:05 PM CST up reply actions
Also, despite the "tender", can't a team offer us a 3rd round pick on a guy with a 2nd round tender.
or a 3rd and a 4th ( or whatever the Titans deem to be fair)? Or does it absolutely have to be the 2nd round pick because the tender “says so”?
I guess
I wasnt the only one not fully up to speed on the extent of tendering a player…good thing I asked.
Tooouucchhddooowwnnn Titans!
I like these moves
I think what they are doing is keeping veteran players at a reasonable salary. Remember, this is an uncapped year. So why let a guy like Tony Brown or Tulloch go when you know a similar replacement found through free agency would cost you much, much more.
Keeping these solid players is the Titans way of maintaining control over what they are spending on veteran football players.
As much as I would have liked for them to let Ball leave, and use the money towards Aaron Kampman, I have to admit this makes more sense. Free agents will be way too expensive this year (I would still like to get Kampman and Dunta Robinson though).
What about the high motor??!?!?!?
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"What if I was Peyton Manning?"- CJ to the ref after they picked up a personal foul flag for a late hit on him.
We can't let Dave Ball and Vanden Bosch go away
Just can’t be without a high motor guy
Official MCM Hater!
Fire Jeff Fisher.
what happen to mitch king?
There are no weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, Chris Johnson lives in Florida.
by SouthTexasTitan on Mar 4, 2010 1:05 PM CST up reply actions
Cut last preseason
Titans Blogger at Music City Miracles even though gramsey hates it.
"What if I was Peyton Manning?"- CJ to the ref after they picked up a personal foul flag for a late hit on him.
GAH!
after we heard so much about him
There are no weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, Chris Johnson lives in Florida.
by SouthTexasTitan on Mar 4, 2010 1:36 PM CST up reply actions
Signed to a futures contract with Colts
go figure….
by groovymountain on Mar 4, 2010 4:39 PM CST up reply actions
That is a hell of a lot of money that’s being given to Bo. I realize we don’t have all that many options right now, what with Jared Cook shitting the bed so spectacularly, but it’s hard to see that much money being given to a player who is very mediocre. I get the whole comfort factor he brings to the table for Vince, but it does not sit well with me.
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