2010 MCM Mock Draft - The Home Team Pick
by gramsey712 on Mar 18, 2010 3:15 PM CDT
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PrintWith the 16th pick of the 2010 MCM Mock Draft, your Tennessee Titans (represented by Thunder64) select:
Derrick Morgan, DE, Georgia Tech
From Thunder64:
I picked Morgan because the Titans have to fill the void left by KVB and need a premier pass rusher.
What say you, Music City Miracles?
Now on the clock: jmztitans2 and the San Francisco 49ers.
- St Louis Rams - Sam Bradford, QB
- Detroit Lions - Ndamukong Suh, DT
- Tampa Bay Bucs - Gerald McCoy, DT
- Washington Redskins - Russell Okung, OT
- Kansas City Chiefs - Eric Berry, AAB
- Seattle Seahawks - Anthony Davis, OT
- Cleveland Browns - Joe Haden, CB
- Oakland Raiders - Bruce Campbell, OT
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Buffalo Bills - Bryan Bulaga, OT
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Jacksonville Jaguars - Earl Thomas, DB
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Denver Broncos - Rolando McClain, LB
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Miami Dolphins - Dez Bryant, WR
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San Francisco 49ers - Trent Williams, OT
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Seattle Seahawks - C.J. Spiller, RB
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New York Giants - Sean Weatherspoon, LB
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Tennessee Titans - Derrick Morgan, DE
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San Francisco 49ers -
GO TITANS!
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YES!!!
He is clearly the best DE in the draft, AND even if was picked before we could get Brandon Graham who I think compares a little to Dwight Freeney.
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I would love it.
Ain't no time for hesitatin'
All you got to do is groove
by BonzosMontreaux on Mar 18, 2010 3:51 PM CDT up reply actions
Meh.
I don’t really like any of the DE’s in the first round this year. I think the only picks I’d be happy with would be Dez Bryant, Eric Berry, Joe Haden, and CJ Spiller. Suh and McCoy look good too, but there is no way they drop to us.
I get what you're saying
But all the guys you named were off the board.
Even that said, you still don’t like this pick?
Superhorn is all about offense.
He thinks we can go defense ONLY in later rounds and somehow come out “above average”.
Ain't no time for hesitatin'
All you got to do is groove
by BonzosMontreaux on Mar 18, 2010 3:51 PM CDT up reply actions
I think it's a good strategy
Our offense is pretty close, so what piece would we add to put it over the top, if Dez Bryant and CJ Spiller are off the board?
Nobody else is a solid offensive pick in the first.
That said i believe that we need a significant upgrade in our defense to even be average, so i love DE here.
Ain't no time for hesitatin'
All you got to do is groove
by BonzosMontreaux on Mar 18, 2010 3:53 PM CDT up reply actions
You're crazy if you think we can ignore defense.
Ain't no time for hesitatin'
All you got to do is groove
by BonzosMontreaux on Mar 18, 2010 3:55 PM CDT up reply actions
I agree.
And, as you’ll see above, I’m fine with drafting outstanding talents like Haden or Berry. I just don’t like drafting for need. I think it’s a mistake to add additional parameters in a process that’s terribly difficult to begin with.
I think Bryant and Spiller are outstanding talents that can make an immediate impact. All things equal, I’d take offense over defense, yes. But, I’m not against taking an elite defensive player either. I just don’t see any that pop out other than the four mentioned above.
I don't see how you can say we can only draft the top 10 defensive talent, when we aren't in the top 10.
You think we will suddenly have an explosive offense if we add Bryant? We are already an explosive rushing attack. But the most important part of an explosive passing attack is the QB, not the WR. As much as VY improved last season, he isn’t about to come out like Brees or Manning.
I know that people who are more fond of college ball think that shootouts are the way to go, but we just can’t do it yet, so why do you want to force it?
Ain't no time for hesitatin'
All you got to do is groove
by BonzosMontreaux on Mar 18, 2010 4:07 PM CDT up reply actions
Let me clarify, too.
I don’t see how you can say we can only draft the top 10 defensive talent, when we aren’t in the top 10.
I’ve seen mocks where Haden and Berry slide.
I think you’re kind of missing my point. I think the drop off in talent between the guys I named and the rest of the talent pool is enormous. If you can’t get those guys, I’m not going to get excited about any pick. You’ve got to try to trade down. This draft is deep enough with solid, not elite, talent that I think you could get two guys that are roughly equal in talent to a guy you could get at 16.
And, I don’t necessarily think that Bryant suddenly makes us explosive, I just think he’s a top 5 talent at a position that we have room to improve. He has the potential to be great. The point is that you don’t pass up on game changing talent just because that’s what a positional need dictates.
Let me put it to you another way. I think Bryant can be a top 10 receiver in this league. Would you pass on that kind of talent just to fill a need at DE? Of course not. Hopefully, that gives you some perspective as to where I’m coming from.
I agree with you SuperHorn.
After Haden and Berry are gone, go best available. Whether that’s WR, DT, DE, DB,….or maybe even QB.
by nightmancometh' on Mar 18, 2010 5:25 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm sure he can be a top 10 receiver. But not in our offense.
We are a running team. It’s as simple as that. And any one of these CB’s or DE’s also has the potential to be great. That’s why they are first round talent.
Everyone talks about trading down like its the easiest thing in the world to do. You don’t just call up the pats and swap picks with them.
Let me give you a perspective of where i am coming from. Lets say we drafted him last year, and he scores a touchdown a game, with 100 yds a game. We still lose to better offenses because our defense is AWFUL still. We can’t afford to get all starry eyed at a wide receiver when we absolutely need to upgrade our defense from a Rams defense to a mid level defense.
Ain't no time for hesitatin'
All you got to do is groove
by BonzosMontreaux on Mar 18, 2010 5:55 PM CDT up reply actions
You make it sound like the choice is between Andre and freaking Jason Babin.
It’s not like the DE’s are talentless hacks. If there is a small difference in talent between players, i take the player we NEED desperately to even compete, over the player that won’t be utilized, because we didn’t even utilize Britt last season.
Ain't no time for hesitatin'
All you got to do is groove
by BonzosMontreaux on Mar 18, 2010 6:23 PM CDT up reply actions
I guess that's where we disagree, then.
I think there’s a large disparity in talent between Bryant (and the others mentioned above) and Morgan.
However…
It’s not like the DE’s are talentless hacks. If there is a small difference in talent between players, i take the player we NEED desperately to even compete, over the player that won’t be utilized, because we didn’t even utilize Britt last season.
We agree on this first part. All things equal, you draft for need.
As for the second part, well, you know where I stand. Fisher needs to adapt/improve, or we need to find a new coach.
I know where you stand there.
I am being realistic here, we probably are not finding a new coach right now, so we shouldn’t draft somebody that won’t be utilized. At least we know that Fisher doesn’t hesitate to start a rookie DE.
Ain't no time for hesitatin'
All you got to do is groove
by BonzosMontreaux on Mar 18, 2010 6:59 PM CDT up reply actions
Cmon Now....
Every year there is a AD hype surrounding the top 5 RB & WRs. And every year there is usually a dud among them. We took CJ who was at least the fifth drafted RB that. I recall McFadden, Stewart, Mendenhall, & Felix Jones all going before CJ. Does this apply that CJ is more talented than those 5. He has been given more opportunity than those other backs, but this is not the subject matter. No scouts or general managers honestly know if Dez Byrant will be the next Andre or if Derrick Morgan will be the next LT/ D. Ware. Nobody knows this. Everyone knows we need DE/ CB. The common advise in all drafting: “take the best player available.” I see some people suggest drafting for need; which I don’t think we need to copycat the Jaguars drafting philosophy. The past two years they have drafted their first two picks on one position alone. That has worked super for them. I believe there is more talent in the DB class than the DE class this year. Anyone wish to debate me on this one?!?!?!?
by titanwarrior1 on Mar 19, 2010 9:50 AM CDT up reply actions
Bryant...
Drafting Bryant & Britt back to back would be highly embarrassing. We should stick on CB/ DE; then use a third round on Jacoby Ford/ McCluster. If they are not there in the 3rd; then take another underrated special teams WR in the 4th. I still want us to trade down, but “since everyone wants to trade down”, I guess it’s not going to happen.
by titanwarrior1 on Mar 19, 2010 9:53 AM CDT up reply actions
Embarrassing?
Yeah. Kind of like drafting a running back in the first two rounds back-to-back. Why draft CJ when you’ve got a starter in Lendale and a second round pick invested in Chris Henry?
Re:
I recall McFadden, Stewart, Mendenhall, & Felix Jones all going before CJ. Does this apply that CJ is more talented than those 5.
I wasn’t real big on any of those guys. That “hype” isn’t there for Dez. And, that’s why I like him. Alleged character issues are dropping his stock. His red flags don’t concern me. If he falls to 16, I think you’re getting top 5 talent in the middle of the first round.
I believe there is more talent in the DB class than the DE class this year.
I agree with this.
shoot-outs
are hella-fun in college balll…..but how many of those teams that consistently get in those games…..texas tech, houston, to name a few….have won national championships…..the teams winning national championships have played tough D. alabama took it to the longhorns with their D. when fla beat ohio state…the KILLED them with their D. while it’s not as sexy….D wins championships. the ratbirds didnt win on the arm of trent dilfer…they won on D. i love me some O..i grew up rootin for the Run N Shoot Oilers. super fun. 0 championships. :(
by NJ Titans Fan on Mar 18, 2010 6:29 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Riiiiigghhhhttt.....
alabama took it to the longhorns with their D.
Against a freshman QB.
the ratbirds didnt win on the arm of trent dilfer…they won on D.
You managed to pick the only Super bowl winner in the last decade to win it all with a great defense and a mediocre offense. The exception proves the rule.
See:Pittsburgh 1
Also See: greatest upset in history, Giants over Pats.
Ain't no time for hesitatin'
All you got to do is groove
by BonzosMontreaux on Mar 18, 2010 7:17 PM CDT up reply actions
I'll give you Pittsburgh.
The Giants, however, didn’t have an exceptional defense, though they did play well that game. Neither the Giants defense or offense was top 10 in DVOA.
The defense was the reason they won the game.
For the superbowl, they were dominant, and they dominated the best offense of all time.
Ain't no time for hesitatin'
All you got to do is groove
by BonzosMontreaux on Mar 18, 2010 9:15 PM CDT up reply actions
That's fine. I agree.
But, as a whole, they were not a dominant defensive unit.
You can’t have it both ways. Using the example from above, Pittsburgh got to the Superbowl, but didn’t win with dominant defense. Warner put up 377 yards against them. So, if we’re only going by individual Super Bowl performances, Pittsburgh probably isn’t in the discussion as a team that won with punishing defense.
I was talking Pitt-Seattle
When the offense was god awful.
Ain't no time for hesitatin'
All you got to do is groove
by BonzosMontreaux on Mar 19, 2010 2:08 PM CDT up reply actions
the defense
and david tyree’s helmet.
and rodney harrison’s womanhood.
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We need a DB. There is plenty of depth in this years draft at DE. We can still get a good DE in the 3rd round. There is not many good DB’s in the draft. Kyle Wilson, if Haden’s gone. Either that, or we go best player available over need. Look what that got us in 2008….. Chris Johnson.
by nightmancometh' on Mar 18, 2010 4:25 PM CDT reply actions
In all seriousness, +1
if one of the top CBs are still on the board (unlikely), that is the way to go in this particular draft.
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by The Jade Scorpion on Mar 18, 2010 4:33 PM CDT up reply actions
a top notch pass rusher can make an average secondary look great
look at the team from 08, big al had what, 9 sacks? that’s pretty good from a DE spot,from DT it’s unheard of. that made the ends better, vanden bosch probably had his best year, which made the secondary look worlds better than it actually was. michael griffin? wow. what a difference a year and the best DT in the league can make…I’m not saying CB isn’t a top priority, but I think a pass rusher is a better investment. I also think pass rushers have a higher rate of success earlier than CBs who are generally hit or miss. maybe we could lean on mouton and hood/harper for one more year and get a top safety this year to replace hope in the third round, chad jones is my pick if he’s available.
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by danielreese05 on Mar 18, 2010 10:14 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
If this happened
I think years from now people would wonder how he fell all the way to 16.
Taylor Mays > Eric Berry
Word
Morgan’s biggest flaw is the lack of
some eye popping measurable… He’s produced, is plenty athletic, plenty big, and very skilled as a pass rusher. IMO definitely
BPA here anyway, hope he gets past the Giants and Jaguars.
by WC22 on Mar 18, 2010 5:17 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
I agree
The combine doesn’t have a drill that show who has the best pass rush moves or technique. Morgan is not going to stand out at the combine, just like a guy like Jared Allen wouldn’t. Put on the tape though and you will see Morgan can get it done.
How could you NOT pick Tebow??????
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by The Jade Scorpion on Mar 18, 2010 4:33 PM CDT reply actions
Terrible Tebow
We have Vince. If we can get Tebow in the 5th, fine take him. But any team that takes him before round 5 (patriots, jaguars). I will be laughing at em! I can’t wait to see Tebow run that direct snap when D. Ware, Ray Lewis, & P. Willis is staring at him….
by titanwarrior1 on Mar 19, 2010 9:31 AM CDT up reply actions
when and why did Morgan's stock drop?
He was a top 10 guy for most of the college season. It’d be great if he fell to 16.
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wow if only if only...
just for the record, who likes the pick chad jones, the LSU safety in the third round? the only two teams i can think of with higher picks that might want him are the saints at 64 and the 49ers at 76
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by danielreese05 on Mar 18, 2010 10:06 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
and really? spoon man and earl jones in the top 15?
both are good, most likely early impact guys but I think there are better options out there…(sergio kindle at OLB, daryl washington at MLB…)
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by danielreese05 on Mar 18, 2010 10:18 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
Spoon & McClain will both be gone by #16
I’ve heard Kindle is more of a 3/4 OLB so he too could be gone by #16. Washington is a perfect cover OLB for our system, but he will be gone by the end of the second round. A Defensive Wish is for us to trade down, then draft CB Patrick Robinson & OLB Daryl Washington. But only in dreams.
by titanwarrior1 on Mar 19, 2010 9:35 AM CDT up reply actions
I don't know that he'll be gone by then
its a VERY deep class this year, most of the guys in the mid 1st to mid 2nd are all highly draftable and could go in any order but I have the order as follows
1st round: kindle, thadeus gibson, dekoda watson
2nd round: ricky sapp, sean witherspoon, sean lee, brandon lang, o’brien schofield.
3rd round: jermaine cunningham, lion wilson, daryl washington.
considering his biggest weakness is his instincts, I think he fits perfectly in a smart corp and can add lots of speed and rxplosiveness off the edge. if we can’t get him, we should grab either navarro bowman, nekos brown, or maybe even roddrick muckelroy even though his stock took a big hit
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by danielreese05 on Mar 19, 2010 3:29 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Love this pick...
Morgan has been a top 10 pick all season and for some reason dropped after having a dominant season while someone like JPP shoots up the draft boards because of his measurables. It would be great if Haden dropped to 16 but Morgan is clearly the best DE in the draft and best player on the board if the draft shapes this way.
I’d be ecstatic if Haden or Morgan dropped this far because they were both top 10 picks for most if not all this season.
Also, the DE talent is much better than the CB talent in this draft, personally I don’t think that its close after Haden, no one was even mentioned about being drafted in the first round until the senior bowl.
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