Tennessee Titans Morning Links: The Tide Continues To Turn Edition
Jay Greeson of the clumsily-named Chattanooga Times Free Press becomes the first Tennessee-based journalist I've seen to outright say that Fisher should be fired. Plenty of other have talked about the issue, but have danced around throwing down the hammer like Mr. Greeson did. He begins the piece by dismantling the most illogical reason given by most people who get mad at those of us who openly say the coaching situation is a lost cause right now, and astute observations like this make me wish I read Greeson more often often:
There are two fundamental questions that must be addressed before making a coaching change.
If it's a college program, there must be an overwhelming knowledge that there is a significantly better coach to be hired. And there must be a distinct likelihood of hiring that upgrade...
If it's an NFL franchise, the question is less subjective. Has the head coach lost the locker room? It's just that simple, and it was easy to see Sunday in Kansas City that Fisher has lost these Titans. Whether it started a decade ago or last month when Fisher and then-starting quarterback Vince Young dropped the gloves or last week for whatever reason, it was finished Sunday.
David Boclair evaluates the crop of current Titans who are headed to free agency in 2011, including Jason Babin, Kerry Collins and Stephen Tulloch. Randy Moss is on that list too, assuming you consider him an actual part of this team, rather than a really fancy cardboard cut-out.
The Titans are 18 measly yards away from reaching the embarrassing plateau of 1,000 penalty yards. We're still trailing the Eagles, Lions and Raiders, but all of those fans still have reasons to be excited about what their teams accomplished in the 2010 season. Us, not so much.
Jump!
If you've ever read a Jeff Fisher press conference transcript before, be sure to read this one to understand how surly the media has gotten with him. These guys used to back-off any time it was obvious Fisher wanted them to (hence, no VY questions since the Tuesday after the Redksins game), now they pepper him with questions about why in the hell Justin Gage is still out there (more on that this afternoon) for much longer than the coach is used to.
Paul K tees those statements from Fisher up and drills 'em down the fairway of malcontents.
Nick Schommer could get some run next week, but I really expected Robert Johnson to be the heir-apparent to the SS spot. Maybe Schommer is auditioning for Donnie Nickey's spot as Jeff Fisher's poker buddy.
Jason Babin talks about being a father and husband while bouncing around the NFL to a new home seemingly every year. Really though, it's worth reading just for the whole middle section where the interviewer kind of freaks out and starts getting on her high-horse over the fact that Babin is teaching his kids how to hunt and shoot. As someone who doesn't hunt anymore, but grew-up doing it constantly, this interviewer is certified douchette. I mean even if you really feel that way, there's no reason to be a jerk about it in an interview...
Pretty much the entire Titans secondary plus Donnie Nickey and a few linebackers held a fundraiser last night at the Shogun Restaurant in Brentwood. I would have let you know earlier, but I kind of mailed it in yesterday since I got a free day off of work that I wasn't expecting.
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Regarding Gage
I actually felt a bit sorry for Gage. So, now the media wants to come out against Gage? Where were these questions earlier?
They should have been asking those questions 2 years ago
I have no problem with Gage as a person, but he’s a terrible WR at this point.
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by August West on Dec 28, 2010 11:25 AM CST up reply actions
Amen on that
Gage has not ever been that good. He was an average receiver a couple of years ago. This is just another notch against Fisher…Gage, Scaife, Collins, Hope, Harper, Thornton, etc. All of these players are obviously not starting material in the NFL but yet they start or did start for the Titans. Especially when there are obvious replacements for these guys (Moss for Gage, Cook for Scaife, Schommer/Johnson/Fuller for Hope, Hood for Harper (last year), McRath for Thornton (last year)).
by shawneriksmith on Dec 28, 2010 11:26 AM CST up reply actions
Well
to be fair, it used to be Gage with Justin McCareins and Brandon Jones…Not Kenny Britt and Randy Moss. It couldn’t get much worse at WR than it already was. Of course now it’s just completely ridiculous
Patrick Peterson= Next Deion Sanders. Julio Jones sucks.
Really though, it's not Gage's fault for him constantly starting above greater talent
That lies on the coaches shoulders.
Refer back to previous post in Finding Leadership a Huge Priority for the Titans This Offseason
InVINCEable
by StPrattrick on Dec 28, 2010 12:17 PM CST up reply actions
August, that first link didnt work.
Can you repost it?
I got an error message when I clicked it.
If I'm not back in 5 minutes...just wait longer.
fixed
not sure why it wasn’t liking it the first time.
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by August West on Dec 28, 2010 11:25 AM CST up reply actions
It's obvious Fisher needs to go
I was watching the MNF game at a friend’s place last night and one guy heard I was a Titans fan. He goes straight into “I can’t believe the owner is going to choose VY over Fisher. Fisher is a great coach…”, at that time, I butt into the conversation and said "Say what you want about VY and it’s probably right. He’s dug his own hole in many ways with his off-field actions. But, what makes you think Fisher is a “great” coach?" The only thing he said is Fisher always fields great teams…I then ask how many great teams has Fisher fielded…he could only think of the 2008 team that finished 13-3. I then said “if you have a coach that has one great year in the past 8 years, would you keep him around?” He then said “No”.
This conversation just sums up my arguments with Fisher…he has had enough time to mold the team as he sees fit. Regardless of VY, Fisher has not done well over the past 8 years. Period. Anybody who tries to defend him now has just not been watching the Titans play.
by shawneriksmith on Dec 28, 2010 11:24 AM CST reply actions
agreed
it’s like people just repeat that because it’s all they’ve heard about him. Like I said yesterday in the comments: you show me a non-Titans fan who thinks we should keep Fisher, and I’ll bet you they haven’t watched more than 3 or 4 Titans games in the past 5 years.
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by August West on Dec 28, 2010 11:27 AM CST up reply actions
"Anybody who tries to defend him now has just not been watching the Titans play"
And watching ESPN.
This is what I’m telling you people! ESPN will rot your brain with this garbage!
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by gramsey712 on Dec 28, 2010 11:33 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
you get the feeling that Mort's tweet about Fisher being a hot commodity if he's fired
is payback for giving Mort’s kid a cup of coffee last year in the preseason.
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by August West on Dec 28, 2010 11:30 AM CST up reply actions
Replacement
I agree that he has lost the team…but him going to Houston, and fielding a better team than the Titans will next year will be tough to swallow. Can I see a list of who we want as a replacement…My vote is for Gregg Williams, I would entertain Jason Garrett, and I would love Rob Ryan. Thoughts.
My vote is Ron Rivera
He is the D coordinator for the Chargers and he has had top defenses for the Bears (4-3) and Chargers (3-4) so he knows both systems well. Plus, his defenses have baffled Peyton Manning nearly every time with both the Bears and Chargers. Plus, I think (or would hope) that he will bring some of the offensive staff from the Chargers, who have been learning under Norv Turner. So, he’s my top choice.
I also like Gregg Williams…he didn’t do great as the Bills head coach, but what guy has done well as head coach there in the past 10 years? Plus, like Rivera, Williams could bring some of the offensive staff from the Saints…
So, those would be my top two choices. Defensive gurus who could bring some young offensive coaches who would be willing to take chances and maybe actually play the younger (and better) talent on the team.
by shawneriksmith on Dec 28, 2010 11:42 AM CST up reply actions
wouldn't mind being the titans being top 5 defense!
Ron rivera would be nice!
by CJ2K shrine on Dec 28, 2010 1:40 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
i dont think our front office would get these guys....
The Day The Titans learn to use: Vince Young, Chris Johnson, Jared Cook, Kenny Britt, Randy Moss, and Nate Washignton is the day we win a super bowl.
Home Page countdown
Should be changed to countdown the hours till the end of the season. That is what we are all really waiting for. Some sort of resolve and answers to this big mess….at this point it wouldnt even matter who stays or who go’s…..i just want answers! Who Iam kiddiing i want change even more!
"The best years the Titans franchise has ever seen were the years when Steve was our quarterback."
by MexicanTitanFreak on Dec 28, 2010 11:59 AM CST reply actions
I think Babin handled that interview with class unlike the interviewer. I want to visit his ranch now.
He certainly talked like it in the interview
He said he’s looking forward to the 4-to-5 year deal and to making Tennessee home. Works for me.
same here, cant wait to see that SACK pose for 4-5 more years to come.
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I love this
PD: I’m stunned other parents haven’t given you a hard time about this.
JB: They do, but I don’t care.
Isn't it great!
I love how he handled the whole interview. You can totally read that woman getting pissed more and more with each question.
I liked Babin before I read that, even more now.
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Its funny
The person asking the question doesn’t know the difference between a weapon and a firearm. He isn’t teaching his kids how to kill people. He is teaching his kids about firearms that way they don’t get themselves hurt. The reason kids shoot themselves and each other is because they aren’t taught about how to handle guns safely. Sounds to me like Jason is a good father.
I wonder if LenDale White should get back on the tequila...
by Bryan J. Boltik on Dec 28, 2010 2:17 PM CST up reply actions
Exactly
on the whole, kids who have no idea how to properly use a gun are way scarier than kids who do. I haven’t owned a gun in 10 years or been hunting in even longer, but I’m thankful that my Dad took me and taught me how to use one.
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i wish i could've done that...
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by Ice0ne (CAJ) on Dec 28, 2010 2:45 PM CST up reply actions
Babin must stay!
A top priority starting next week.
"The best years the Titans franchise has ever seen were the years when Steve was our quarterback."
by MexicanTitanFreak on Dec 28, 2010 12:36 PM CST reply actions
Jason Babin on PETA is the greatest thing i've ever read
Get 'em.
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by danielreese05 on Dec 28, 2010 1:41 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Babin just jumped way up my list of favorite players.
And he was already pretty high up.
"Do the Titans have a miracle left in them in what has been a magical season to this point? If they do, they need it now. Christie kicks it high and short. Gonna be fielded by Lorenzo Neal at the 25; he dishes it back to Wycheck; he throws it across the field to Dyson. 30, 40, 50, 40, 30, 20, 10, 5, endzone...touchdown, Titans! There are no flags on the field! It's a miracle! Tennessee has pulled a miracle! A miracle for the Titans!"
by TennesseeTyrants on Dec 28, 2010 1:58 PM CST reply actions
Babin,mariaini,cj,britt,cookie,verner,griffy
are my favorite players <3 <3 <3<3
The Day The Titans learn to use: Vince Young, Chris Johnson, Jared Cook, Kenny Britt, Randy Moss, and Nate Washignton is the day we win a super bowl.
i have asked before but I remember
is your name______?
1. Carlos Table
2. Carlostable
3. Carlo Stable
4. Carl O’Stable (Irish)
I’m an early bird and a night owl. So I’m wise and I have worms.
BOOM! You've been pharmacisted!
by DonFrancisco on Dec 28, 2010 3:17 PM CST up reply actions
Carlos Table
die hard titans fan…my real name is carlos mesa so i just use carlos table
The Day The Titans learn to use: Vince Young, Chris Johnson, Jared Cook, Kenny Britt, Randy Moss, and Nate Washignton is the day we win a super bowl.
i didn't think it was the irish one
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by DonFrancisco on Dec 28, 2010 3:19 PM CST up reply actions
I was really hoping for the Irish one. :(
"Do the Titans have a miracle left in them in what has been a magical season to this point? If they do, they need it now. Christie kicks it high and short. Gonna be fielded by Lorenzo Neal at the 25; he dishes it back to Wycheck; he throws it across the field to Dyson. 30, 40, 50, 40, 30, 20, 10, 5, endzone...touchdown, Titans! There are no flags on the field! It's a miracle! Tennessee has pulled a miracle! A miracle for the Titans!"
by TennesseeTyrants on Dec 28, 2010 4:01 PM CST up reply actions
i would love to see mike singletary as our DC
The Day The Titans learn to use: Vince Young, Chris Johnson, Jared Cook, Kenny Britt, Randy Moss, and Nate Washignton is the day we win a super bowl.
his defense has been good for the past years. but the 49ers dont have as many talented defensive players as us. imagine if he could turn mcarth into a willis or robert johnson into a dawkins or polomulo
The Day The Titans learn to use: Vince Young, Chris Johnson, Jared Cook, Kenny Britt, Randy Moss, and Nate Washignton is the day we win a super bowl.
yeah
the willis and polamalus of the world aren’t formed, they are born. if he could do all that he’s a miracle worker and im all for it. im just not generally impressed with anything he has put on the field in SF. good sound bites, but thats about it as far as i can tell.
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Singletary's Problem Has Been Alex Smith
Vince Young bashers ought to watch Alex Smith play and see what a bad QB who gets his coach fired (and Singletary is the 2nd coach that Smith has gotten fired) looks like.
I would like to put a formal request in that all comments, fanposts, etc that request a certain coach be actually researched.
Please do not throw around every D-coord name you know, as getting a 3-4 DC to run our defense would suck. Also don’t say that we could just switch to a 3-4 because we would need 2 years minimum drafting of new personnel for that. You don’t just press a button like madden and we instantly get it.
So basically i want a little more to read than “LULZ CECIL IS TEH LAME, HIRE MAH BOY!”
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by BonzosMontreaux on Dec 28, 2010 5:44 PM CST reply actions
Personally, I love the 4-3.
It would hurt my feelings a little bit to see the Titans running a 3-4 primarily.
"Do the Titans have a miracle left in them in what has been a magical season to this point? If they do, they need it now. Christie kicks it high and short. Gonna be fielded by Lorenzo Neal at the 25; he dishes it back to Wycheck; he throws it across the field to Dyson. 30, 40, 50, 40, 30, 20, 10, 5, endzone...touchdown, Titans! There are no flags on the field! It's a miracle! Tennessee has pulled a miracle! A miracle for the Titans!"
by TennesseeTyrants on Dec 28, 2010 6:19 PM CST up reply actions
and i put forward that all comments that sarcasticaly bash other peoples comments be actualy researched.
http://www.ask.com/wiki/Ron_Rivera
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/chi/2005.htm
if you researched as much as you complained, you might just see that Rivera has coached 4-3.
North Shore Who Dat since 1985
I don't see where i mentioned Rivera, as i was fully aware he coached the 4-3.
If i struck a nerve with you then perhaps you are a little defensive.
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by BonzosMontreaux on Dec 29, 2010 11:41 AM CST up reply actions
Mariani and Babin
well…that’s….ok I guess
Get 'em.
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by danielreese05 on Dec 28, 2010 6:23 PM CST via mobile reply actions

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